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Insertnamehere31
Jan 23, 2012

This could be the most one-sided fight since 1973 when Ali faced an eighty-foot tall mechanical Joe Frazier. My memory isn't what it used to be, but I think the entire Earth was destroyed.

I love how the part of Greenland that Iceland colonized is named "Icierland" on the map.

Also, there's no way we'd be able to build a navy that can beat a Bulgarian navy with our naval tech being so low.

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NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

A Tartan Tory posted:

I'm sure the time honoured tradition of making a large navy just to force one crossing in a single war before they all get sunk can be perpetuated.

Plus, think of the borders man! The borders! They must be pretty! :smith:
Come on, there's nothing pretty about modern-day Turkey's western border. Ours are actually much cleaner this way, stopping nicely at the Bosphorus.

e: What's the difference between Christiania and Vestland?

A Tartan Tory
Mar 26, 2010

You call that a shotgun?!

Insertnamehere31 posted:

I love how the part of Greenland that Iceland colonized is named "Icierland" on the map.

Also, there's no way we'd be able to build a navy that can beat a Bulgarian navy with our naval tech being so low.

We don't have to beat them so much as hold them off for a few days. :colbert:

Insertnamehere31
Jan 23, 2012

This could be the most one-sided fight since 1973 when Ali faced an eighty-foot tall mechanical Joe Frazier. My memory isn't what it used to be, but I think the entire Earth was destroyed.

A Tartan Tory posted:

We don't have to beat them so much as hold them off for a few days. :colbert:

Serious question: is it possible for armies to cross while a battle is going on? I don't think I've ever had it happen.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

NihilCredo posted:

e: What's the difference between Christiania and Vestland?

Christiania's probably mostly isolated trappers and fishermen, while Vestland has some agriculture.

Redeye Flight
Mar 26, 2010

God, I'm so tired. What the hell did I post last night?

Insertnamehere31 posted:

Serious question: is it possible for armies to cross while a battle is going on? I don't think I've ever had it happen.

Nope, any enemy fleet presence stops army progression. This includes a fleet being there while it's fighting yours, so the solution is to blockade a strait with a large enough fleet that the AI can't gently caress with it.

This does not, interestingly enough, include disembarking a fleet from transports. Do that when the gently caress ever.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

NihilCredo posted:

e: What's the difference between Christiania and Vestland?

The way Wiz explained the regional colonial revolt system earlier, I'd tentatively guess that Louisiana and Vestland are part of the same revolter region, (Louisiana), but the different cultures formed separate states, while Christiania is located in a different revolter region, (Canada), despite having the same culture as Vestland.

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
We need to ally with Zhen (160 relations) and attack Russia. They're the richest, one of the most technologically advanced and the most militarily powerful nation in Europe. If we, Persua, Zhen and Poland all attack we can at least cripple them for a generation to stop them being incredibly powerful and eating us all up one by one.

Also vassalize and annex khwarzim.

The Saurus fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jan 29, 2012

sum
Nov 15, 2010

Kainser posted:

How does samiland have such great tech :psyduck:. that makes so little sense.

Also, are there any examples from OTL of nations where the 'main' ethnic group and/or religion wasn't even a plurality like how it is in Azerbaijan right now (unless the population density in the azerbaijani provinces is really high)? Austria-Hungary comes to mind but I think that the Germans still was the largest ethnic group there.

e; discounting colonies that is.

In the 1800 (I think) something like <20% of the population of France could actually speak French :eng101:

Dibujante
Jul 27, 2004

i poo poo trains posted:

In the 1800 (I think) something like <20% of the population of France could actually speak French :eng101:

20% of the population of <insert European country or cultural region> could speak <language that was mutually intelligible to others in that region> hth

edit: except for Spain because the Spaniards are crazy theocrats

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Kavak posted:

Smaller countries in EU III get major tech bonuses because...I'm not sure. But they're just one province and in the Western group, so that makes them top of the line.

They get tech bonuses so that larger, rich states don't totally dominate tech progression. It's not that strange when you think about it. Consider the period in the 15th and early 16th century when the Swiss were at more or less the pinnacle of European military tactics and technology.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
A lot of the smaller countries have better government types/sliders for tech, too.

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost


Chapter 47: Passing the Torch (1800 - 1810)

Rafiq continues the commercial development of Azerbaijan, ordering the construction of naval equipment manufacturies in Trebizond, and passing laws to strengthen the legal rights of commoners.



He passes away in his sleep in 1805, after a long and peaceful reign. His son Ertan is very much like his father, though a little less competent and a lot less charming.



Ertan continues the Daei tradition of selling titles, provoking a revolt from nobles in Crimea who believe the new ruler to be weak. After some initial successes, the revolt is crushed with the help of Persian troops.



Rapid economic reform, long wars in Asia and incompetent rulers has plunged Russia into deep instability, and a revolutionary faction inspired and funded by the Germans has formed in the Russian heartland, propagating for the overthrow of the Tsar and the creation of a Russian Republic.


Meanwhile, the Germans themselves are facing a coalition of Poland, Burgundy, Bavaria, Bohemia and Denmark who together have launched an invasion of Germany that even the revolutionary army has been unable to beat back.


After a few months of bitter fighting, Frankfurt falls in 1808, putting an end to the German Revolution.


As the victorious nations assemble to discuss how to divide up Germany, news reach them that the Russian revolutaries have succeeded in their objective, seizing control of Moscow and forcing the Tsar to flee to Poland.



Faced with the threat of Russia's enormous economic and military resources brought to bear against them, the European Great Powers are forced to accept the unification of Germany to gain an ally against the Russians, installing the deposed Querfurt Duke of Hannover as King of Germany.


One revolution has been defeated and another one born. Will the Russians succeed where the Germans failed?



Wiz fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jan 29, 2012

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Oh gently caress yeah Russian revolution on the roll!

e. Germany isn't going to be much of a stabilising force with land tech 3...

V. Illych L. fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jan 29, 2012

A Tartan Tory
Mar 26, 2010

You call that a shotgun?!
Well, thats us hosed then. :stare:

Talas
Aug 27, 2005

Nooo, not Rev. Germany :qq:

Anyway, the trade for a Rev. Russia is pretty good I guess.

Edit: Oh, the USA is finally appearing.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
Yup, there's 2 things I was not expecting. Are Tyrol and not-Styria vassals of either Bavaria or Italy? I can't really see them being viable independent states in the new Europe.

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

RabidWeasel posted:

Yup, there's 2 things I was not expecting. Are Tyrol and not-Styria vassals of either Bavaria or Italy? I can't really see them being viable independent states in the new Europe.

Both are vassals of Bavaria.

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

V. Illych L. posted:

e. Germany isn't going to be much of a stabilising force with land tech 3...

Bug in the derevolution script. Already fixed.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

American independence taking off in a big way and Revolutionary Russia?

I am liking this end of EUIII.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Let the princes of Germany have their Louis-Philippe. The great armies of Russia will bring back liberty and equality to the West! and hopefully ignore that wee little empire to their South.


e: Sweden gets to keep Mecklenburg, yay! :sweden:

NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jan 29, 2012

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow
I like that Sweden gets to keep its small German (well, unless it have culture shifted after all these centuries) enclave :sweden:

And ahahah, Azerbaijan is so hosed.

e; Please crush those pesky Americans Britain :ohdear:

e2; wouldn't Poland want the province they lost to Germany in the last update back?

Kainser fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Jan 29, 2012

nimby
Nov 4, 2009

The pinnacle of cloud computing.



I kinda want Azerbaijan to lose to Rev. Russia and become Rev. Azerbaijan. Then together with the free peoples of Rus, we shall :killdozer: through all of Europe!

Servant
Aug 3, 2010

... so you see, following that the will of the People cannot be reasonably interpreted down to the individual level, a legitimate government should operate purely through coin-flips...
Honestly, the German Revolutionaries has accomplished most of its goals. Not all of them, the Revolution was crushed. But the Revolutionaries unified Germany and ensured a constitutional government (though one ruled by a King). That's actually not bad considering how they were in the center of Europe and suffered a dogpile of major proportions.

yermato
Feb 20, 2011
Could someone explain the choice of flag colors for Rev. Russia? I'm not aware of their significance and would like to know.

A_Raving_Loon
Dec 12, 2008

Subtle
Quick to Anger


Well then. I'll just leave this here.

This bodes well for Victoria.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Azerbaijan is thoroughly screwed. I cannot say I am surprised by that development, however.


Is anyone else hoping that Vestland and Christiana unify into one nation during Victoria? They both have the same culture and are surrounded by powerful enemies.

EDIT: Why is Nova Scotia joining Vestland?

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jan 29, 2012

Dr. Tough
Oct 22, 2007

If Rev. Germany had the prerequisites to form Germany why did they do it before getting deposed? Or am I misreading what happened?

edit:

A_Raving_Loon posted:



Well then. I'll just leave this here.

This bodes well for Victoria.

Pretty sure Rev. Russia is liberal not socialist. So I guess their Vicky 2 gov't would be Presidential Dictatorship or Democracy?

Dr. Tough fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jan 29, 2012

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

Dr. Tough posted:

If Rev. Germany had the prerequisites to form Germany why did they do it before getting deposed? Or am I misreading what happened?

The 'End of the Revolution' event turned them from Rev. Germany to just Germany.

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

yermato posted:

Could someone explain the choice of flag colors for Rev. Russia? I'm not aware of their significance and would like to know.

I just altered the Russian flag to be more inspired by the German Red-Black-Yellow since those are the colors of revolution in this timeline.

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


What's that patch of orange in Poland?

Also, OMYGOD WE'RE GUNNA DIE :ohdear:

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

QuoProQuid posted:

EDIT: Why is Nova Scotia joining Vestland?

It is Norwegian culture, Britain stole it from Norway. Colonial revolters base their tag on culture and region, owner is not factored in.

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

Triskelli posted:

What's that patch of orange in Poland?

Also, OMYGOD WE'RE GUNNA DIE :ohdear:

Samogitia, they got force-released during a war.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Dr. Tough posted:

If Rev. Germany had the prerequisites to form Germany why did they do it before getting deposed? Or am I misreading what happened?

Pretty sure Wiz did some fuckery to make them absorb the remaining (north) German minors in anticipation of making an interesting situation for V2 and keeping the map relatively sane.

nimby
Nov 4, 2009

The pinnacle of cloud computing.



A_Raving_Loon posted:

Well then. I'll just leave this here.

We better start practicing this one. Couldn't find an Azeri one, though.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Wiz posted:

It is Norwegian culture, Britain stole it from Norway. Colonial revolters base their tag on culture and region, owner is not factored in.

Ah, I see. I thought that those territories were English culture and was confused as to why they would be joining Vestland. Thanks for the speedy response.


Can you tell us who is the leaders of Christiana and Vestland are? Do they have good stats?

Dibujante
Jul 27, 2004

nimby posted:

I kinda want Azerbaijan to lose to Rev. Russia and become Rev. Azerbaijan. Then together with the free peoples of Rus, we shall :killdozer: through all of Europe!
Hell yeah. I'm rooting for a Revolutionary Union of Azeri and Russian Republics.
RUARR!

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

Advanced
Computer Touching


Toilet Rascal
Oh man, I hope Russia ends up as a Revolutionary Empire. I think it gives something like +25% manpower, which Russia clearly needs.

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

RabidWeasel posted:

Pretty sure Wiz did some fuckery to make them absorb the remaining (north) German minors in anticipation of making an interesting situation for V2 and keeping the map relatively sane.

When the Revolution ended there was 3 minors left, I ceded them to Germany.

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C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



I hope Christiana and Vestland have unification efforts in Victoria, divided those nations are going to be pretty weak speed bumps to the USA.

Also Cherokee now is the time to declare war on England take back your Mississippi province and go for some extra border stuff too.

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