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I kinda liked this story at first when it was a esoteric series of tests that person must pass, but I don't care for the ninja school stuff. 25th Baam implies that he's one in a series. Possibly a clone, or maybe experiment #25, or prisoner #25. And the tower doesn't have windows? Why does Lahel have to climb to the top to see the stars? Can one leave the tower and live on other lands? Has anyone tried scaling the tower from the outside?
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I think Lahel stole Baam's ride into the tower, so she didn't open the door herself. Baam was welcomed in, but still had to open the door on his own. This makes them each a strange variation on regular/irregular. I guess it depends on if that status comes from opening the door yourself, or if it's a matter of being welcomed by the guardian. I wonder if Lahel specifically sought out Baam because she knew the door would open for him.
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Dec 22, 2011 13:45
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I think we're definitely being led to believe that the tower is a single physical entity with a literal top and bottom, its just that the scale of it is massive. I wish we could get more details about it's nature, and not just the political organization of it.
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Feb 18, 2012 23:09
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Screw Koon, a reunion with Gator would be the most glorious of all.
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Mar 26, 2012 04:34
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Nobody seems to know who he really is, if he kills a ranker and it comes out that he's an irregular then poo poo's gonna get real. Also remember that he's special among irregulars in that he was chosen, but wound up having to open the doors himself. I wonder if he was chosen by the guardians for the purpose of overthrowing Zahard.
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Apr 18, 2012 13:57
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It's funny to think back about Black March, because at the beginning of the series I really thought she was going to be Baam's sidekick throughout his whole adventure through the tower.
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Apr 25, 2012 01:20
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So is the area Baam lived in outside the tower? If so, that means that Rachel found a way to get out of the tower, and to her dumb luck it was underground where she couldn't see the stars. Isn't Wingtree trying to find a way out of the tower?
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Aug 1, 2012 23:44
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The chapter notes hint that the pig has some notable identity. Possibly it could be the guardian? It could provide a way for Baam to take a different test.
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Sep 11, 2012 02:25
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Maybe she is one of the persona's contained in a weapon, like the sword Baam had in his first test.
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Nov 13, 2012 00:09
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RatHat posted:From what I understand they're just going to put his soul into the thorn, then have something else use it. This is how I interpreted it too. The thorn is a weapon, and Baam will be it's ignition, just like the girl inside the Black March. So when the thorn is activated you get the attack of an irregular, which should be capable of killing Zahard.
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Oct 28, 2013 00:26
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I think it would be funny if they actualy succeed in putting Baam into the thorn only to have it wind up bound to someone else, like Wangnan.
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Oct 28, 2013 12:25
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Gyges posted:Kind of hoping it's Rachel under the mask there. That would actually be kinda perfect, making it the second time Baam was chosen for something instead of her.
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Mar 23, 2014 20:47
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ToG has always felt like an MMO game to me. You complete your challenge then move on to the next level. Lots of powerful people contending in a giant world to reach the top. Crazy items everywhere. No shortage of villains.
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Sep 23, 2014 02:56
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From what I understand, there's really two meanings of "Climbing to the Top of the Tower" in this world. One is where they really mean "Climbing up to where all of the high rankers have reached". Since status in society is determined based on your ranking (either classification within regulars or number as a ranker), the motivations to do so are easy to understand and widespread. It's like completing another level of education moving into a fancier neighborhood, or getting that job promotion. The other meaning is more literal, in that they want to reach the actual top of the tower. It seems nobody knows for sure what's at the top, but many believe a number of things such as enlightenment, getting wishes granted, etc. Rachel told Baam she wants to see the stars (but I suppose that could have been a nice lie). Anyone who believes something profound is at the top won't need much more motivation than that. That being said, I do wish they would say more about character motivations. The explanation isn't needed but would be welcomed.
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Mar 1, 2015 18:50
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Fortunately its been inducated that he wont factor into the story, hes really just part of the background and history. Some of the other irregulars might play a role though.
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Jul 6, 2015 20:27
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I think his immortality works on the principal that he ultimately controls all the shinshoo contracts for regulars. Presumably theyd either lose their contract or maybe the guardian of that floor would be required to step in.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:51
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Simstim posted:I think Rachel is going to betray Hoaqin because he is not the teammate she was hoping he'd be. I get this feeling too. It might even be that she wants to atone for hurting Baam, and maybe we will learn something that makes her slightly sympathetic. We know a discussion about her and Baam's past has been foreshadowed.
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Feb 10, 2016 00:43
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Coffee Mugshot posted:So uh how is Wangnan supposed to be Karaka's brother? I feel like I missed this plot completely. Wangnan has the same ring, thats where Baam saw it before. The whole thing about Karaka having a brother with that ring is a new reveal.
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Nov 21, 2016 18:56
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Isnt the blue thing the lump of souls he got from a part of White? Is admin power a bunch of stolen souls?
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Jun 5, 2017 14:16
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I always imagined that the 10 great warriors fought through a largely wild and untamed bunch of floors, but now we learn that the hell train predates them. I guess dozens of advanced civilizations could have come and gone before them. And clearly common travel between a large number of floors was established before them too.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:00
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Shugojin posted:Double posting but is this real urek or a data urek or what the gently caress is happening suddenly What if he is Jahad's sworn enemy?
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Apr 9, 2018 20:07
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Yeah, the angry blue guy waa never expained, but possibly could be some power-hungry version persona that everyone has buried deep inside. Possibly Jahad gave into his and turned into a bad guy. But for all we know it could be something FUG implanted or a literal demon, nothing would surprise me at this point.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:11
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I couldnt resist and read them. Its worth noting that the chapters are pretty rough quality and you have to read the crappy translation on a separate sheet. From what I hear they sometimes are not final either. Also all I want to do is talk about them and its painful to be silent.
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Jun 19, 2018 13:05
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The various forms of immortality are poorly defined at this point and I wish they would be clarified. We know the family heads got some form of immortality and that Jahad has something extra on top of that (nobody is allowed to kill him?). Thing is, this all something granted by the floor guardians, so does it still count if the guardian is dead? It also seems implied that the bracelet from the hidden floor can do something special, possibly with relation to immortality.
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Dec 4, 2018 23:43
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I feel like the original 3 canine brothers are experiments to combine an anima with it's creature.
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My guess is that Dooms heart is transferred along with the power to use his canine-creating abilities. Or maybe it becomes an item. Somehow Baam will make the canines masters of their own destiny.
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