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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

NikkolasKing posted:

Well that's why I asked if this was the right thread . Listening to those songs they're pretty good but not quite the same kind of music I was thinking of.

I like the darker, "gothier" stuff I guess you might say? I'm bad with band names in general, I just listen to radio playlists and stuff. I was kinda hear looking for recs on actual stuff to listen to. i miss Gothic Paradise Radio.

I didn't post a song from the first Cocteau's album, which is pretty gothy sounding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRQnM1Lv9V0

for newer poo poo, I guess you could do what I do and try digging through bandcamp if you haven't already. I follow this lady on there and sift through the stuff she buys occasionally. https://bandcamp.com/scaryladysarah

also, these guys who are my favorite thing going right now, I think I already posted this but what evs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjBo82hQXFA

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ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005



WhiteHowler posted:

I'm gonna be the unpopular guy here and say I love most things shoegaze, but I've just never liked My Bloody Valentine.



Loveless is massively overrated and the MBV comeback album was shite

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

ROFLBOT posted:



Loveless is massively overrated and the MBV comeback album was shite

the comeback album for the most part sounds like a bunch of crap that got edited together out of old stuff that wasn't good to enough to put on a record. and I suspect that is exactly what is.

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005



the contrast between that and Slowdives' stunning comeback album.... thats how you do it Kevin!

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

"If you work harder than somebody else, chances are you'll beat him though he has more talent than you."


Lipstick Apathy

MBV is extremely hit or miss for me, but Only Shallow is a really loving good song.

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

ROFLBOT posted:



Loveless is massively overrated and the MBV comeback album was shite

Loveless is rated exactly as it should be.

MBV was way better than I expected it to be but the last three songs I could do without.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




uber_stoat posted:

the comeback album for the most part sounds like a bunch of crap that got edited together out of old stuff that wasn't good to enough to put on a record. and I suspect that is exactly what is.

Where were you people when it came out? Everyone on here said I was a crazy rear end in a top hat for being disappointed!

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

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Bleak Gremlin

Been on a deep dive into Slowdive and all things shoegaze after youtube led me in that direction from my beloved Cocteau Twins, holy poo poo there is a lot.

Found this article here: https://pitchfork.com/features/list...ms-of-all-time/

Now will go back and read the thread.

Hi.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

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Bleak Gremlin

Fenrir posted:

MBV is extremely hit or miss for me, but Only Shallow is a really loving good song.

Not even
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVuARAzNnKw
?

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Bilirubin posted:

Been on a deep dive into Slowdive and all things shoegaze after youtube led me in that direction from my beloved Cocteau Twins, holy poo poo there is a lot.

Found this article here: https://pitchfork.com/features/list...ms-of-all-time/

Now will go back and read the thread.

Hi.

i stopped reading pitchfork a decade ago, but lists like that are great for when i can't think of anything to play at work, so thanks for that. happy to see Blonder Tongue Audio Baton ranked so highly; that's one of my favorite albums, period.

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME


Oh, sweet. I'd love to see what they've written abou-

quote:

Loveless is the defining statement of shoegaze because it discovered, in layered guitar sounds and submerged singing, a language that serenely overwhelms as it distills the universal human experience.

...What does that even mean?

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Vichan posted:

Oh, sweet. I'd love to see what they've written abou-


...What does that even mean?

yeah, that's why i stopped.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

the thing about loveless is, underneath all the noise and effects, it is really good pop music. not going to waste any time arguing about it, don't @ me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN8SII8ytI

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Vichan posted:

Oh, sweet. I'd love to see what they've written abou-


...What does that even mean?

It means someone is a comprehensive expert in self-abuse, as well as abuse of the language.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

"If you work harder than somebody else, chances are you'll beat him though he has more talent than you."


Lipstick Apathy

Vichan posted:

Oh, sweet. I'd love to see what they've written abou-


...What does that even mean?

Look, they said I had to write a certain amount of words, no one said they had to make sense.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




Loveless sounds a lot better if you crank the bass up. I normally never mess with EQs but the slinky bass line in "Soon" deserves to be front and center, not buried in the mix. Sorry Kevin

SousaphoneColossus
Feb 16, 2004

There are a million reasons to ruin things.

precision posted:

Loveless sounds a lot better if you crank the bass up. I normally never mess with EQs but the slinky bass line in "Soon" deserves to be front and center, not buried in the mix. Sorry Kevin

Thatís something Curve got comparatively right- bass front and center.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

I was surprised to see an FB update from Dean implying Curve is still an ongoing concern, just that Toni is hard to book these days.

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

precision posted:

Loveless sounds a lot better if you crank the bass up. I normally never mess with EQs but the slinky bass line in "Soon" deserves to be front and center, not buried in the mix. Sorry Kevin

There's a live version where the bass is amazingly loud.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

Dean Garcia is one of my favorite bass players and hardly anyone knows who he is. sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBI1FaLNQZA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8_5TC1s0wQ

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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teethgrinder posted:

I was surprised to see an FB update from Dean implying Curve is still an ongoing concern, just that Toni is hard to book these days.

Took a look out of curiosity and it didn't imply that. He actually says that he's going to ask Toni if she's changed her mind (about her quitting in 2005).

Most bands pretty much do consider themselves to be in existence as long as all the members are still alive, though. Laika have been on recording hiatus since 2003 (with an album incomplete) and still occasionally update their website.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcollsIir80

von Braun
Oct 30, 2009


Broder Daniel Forever

new ep by KLASS II is great as usual.


https://open.spotify.com/album/76Os...HT9K6ow6GzcmHmg

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

if you post in here there's a good chance you know the 4AD record label. and if you know 4AD you know Vaughan Oliver, the artist who designed a ton of record covers for the label.





https://twitter.com/evjanderson/sta...376336612265984

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




The Lush covers are so fuckin good

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

There ain't no need for ya
There ain't no need for ya
Go straight to hell, boys


Knowing Lush got hosed over for the same reasons that ultimately messed over the Smashing Pumpkins, i.e. writing credits being accredited in a lopsided fashion that affects royalties, sucks. Lush is absolutely my favorite band ever. I still think of "Lit Up" as the ultimate song to explain my relationship with my mother and keeping her going through her depressive episodes.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




Probably Magic posted:

Knowing Lush got hosed over for the same reasons that ultimately messed over the Smashing Pumpkins, i.e. writing credits being accredited in a lopsided fashion that affects royalties, sucks. Lush is absolutely my favorite band ever. I still think of "Lit Up" as the ultimate song to explain my relationship with my mother and keeping her going through her depressive episodes.

I never heard about that, thar really sucks. More bands should have done what REM did, early on they just said "we're putting all our names equally on every song no matter who wrote it" to avoid that poo poo

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

precision posted:

I never heard about that, thar really sucks. More bands should have done what REM did, early on they just said "we're putting all our names equally on every song no matter who wrote it" to avoid that poo poo

Miki talked about it in an interview. Phil had always resented not getting writing credit. when Lush was going to play 2 Coachella shows, Miki's immigration paper work got delayed because she had an old drunk driving charge which she forgot to mention. they ended up missing one of the shows, so the rather large payout they were going to get got cut in half. pissed off everyone else in the band and I guess that was the last straw for Phil.

kliksf
Jan 1, 2003


This is my favorite Loveless cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyt3CR54a1k

microaggressions
Aug 30, 2018


I really like this song and i think you guys should really like it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exxCQYwPdag

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




microaggressions posted:

I really like this song and i think you guys should really like it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exxCQYwPdag

That's dope, reminds a bit of Slowdive.thanks

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

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Bleak Gremlin

precision posted:

Loveless sounds a lot better if you crank the bass up. I normally never mess with EQs but the slinky bass line in "Soon" deserves to be front and center, not buried in the mix. Sorry Kevin

I have been continuing my listen to shoegaze thing and am deeply hooked by Loveless, it is so evenly amazing to me. Soon in particular is getting repeated listens; I am in awe of this song and they way it plays with tension. OTOH Ride, which I also really like, sounds more like Britpop with a few flanger pedals in comparison. I really think MBV are heads and shoulders above the rest in what they were doing.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

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Bleak Gremlin

Starting to listen to Lush now. Sweetness and Light is an incredible song

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

There's a ghost in me
Who wants to say I'm sorry
Doesn't mean I'm sorry






Bilirubin posted:

Starting to listen to Lush now. Sweetness and Light is an incredible song

Lush is crazy good. Rarely does a band name describe a band so well.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




I think Spooky is a much better album than Loveless

Never really cared too much for Ride, but "Black Nite Crash" whips incredible amounts of rear end

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

I was obsessed with this track as a kid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8SpJhZp_Zw
I'm just a complete sucker for songs that slowly build up.

Also I had no idea it was a cover until this popped up on Spotify Discover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc0SXW1fd6U

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Bilirubin posted:

Starting to listen to Lush now. Sweetness and Light is an incredible song

I'd put it top 10 all time all genres. The ending is a little weak, but not so bad that you'd complain.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001





Pillbug

there were a number of good covers on the eps, not terribly shoey though. Miki has fine taste in music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnH8ugbaI5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8w14IaS8Us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nG0V5UFb9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJSe8vutnM

Fart of Presto
Feb 9, 2001


Pillbug

Speaking of Lush, I recently stumbled upon Dead Horse One and their new album The West Is The Best.
There are definitely notes of Lush and Ride in many of the tracks, probably because Mark Gardener produced the album.

https://deadhorseone1.bandcamp.com/...est-is-the-best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcUm9giz5Yc

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG!!!




Bleak Gremlin

Fart of Presto posted:

Speaking of Lush, I recently stumbled upon Dead Horse One and their new album The West Is The Best.
There are definitely notes of Lush and Ride in many of the tracks, probably because Mark Gardener produced the album.

https://deadhorseone1.bandcamp.com/...est-is-the-best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcUm9giz5Yc

I really enjoyed this, thanks.

Was a lovely day out, and decided to stop by my local record store (embarrassing how long its been actually). Among my purchases was Slowdive's Just for a Day. Holy hell is this ever good

e. got captured by this song (track two) and then they kept coming and getting better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-nm9XDN8iw

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Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

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Bleak Gremlin

Driving between campuses listening to our campus radio station, this came on and I was like holy hell, turn it up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKrw5wOlSng

I know I have commented on how Ride is "Brit pop with flanger pedals" before, and I'm not stepping away from this so much, but I have to acknowledge this tune as good. Got a kind of Moody Blues sound going. Love the energy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDAFl2tOqj4
The drummer is an absolute star

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