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ghosthorse
Dec 15, 2011

...you forget so easily...


Really new to the term "shoegaze" although I've heard of a couple of these bands. Would y'all lump Rubber by Yuck into this? It's what people described the song to me as and it was the first time I heard of shoegazing.

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Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
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I love that song. I'd say it's pretty shoegazey, as is some of the rest of that album, though it could as easily be described as noise rock/pop probably.

Frost Uncle
Nov 2, 2012


I'm finally a grown rear end man getting to experience the next era of Kevin Shields being a mean spirited troll.

kefka40
Jan 16, 2013

We're only making plans for Nigel.

While I love My Bloody Valentine and Pale Saints (I pressed the repeat button to "Featherframe" so many times), another band that I really love from the shoegaze/dream pop genre is Lush. Their albums Gala, Spooky, and Split had some really enchanting melodies. Their last album, Lovelife, went towards the traditional conventions of where brit pop stood at the time rather than the dreamy/shoegaze of their prime (that's not to say that I didn't enjoy songs like "Ladykillers", but it was a bit jarring compared to the aforementioned works and I could not get into the album as a whole as much). The group split up not long after the drummer hung himself in 1996 (same year Lovelife was released), but their music still stands the test of time in my opinion, and hopefully in others as well.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

"Now, listen, son...."


Chiming in here on the Lush love, by far my favorite band. Concurring on Lovelife being not wholly representative of the sound for most of their career, which makes it ironic that it's the most popular of their albums. A great band, though, and Gala is a guaranteed listen for shoegazer fans everywhere.

To contribute to the thread, a couple bands that I think might be worth adding here are Melody's Echo Chamber. Melody's Echo Chamber is a joint project from the guitarist of Tame Impala and a French singer that I couldn't find anything else about, so the psychadelia's there, but it has some dream pop flavor too.

"Crystalized" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7kVZjPIe1I

As for Ponderosa, they're generally more a Southern folk psychadelic group, but they definitely have some songs on their latest album that have a pretty strong shoegazer bent, especially this one.

"On Your Time" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYigQmMXc0Q

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Grimey Drawer

Not sure how I missed this thread for so long. This has been my favourite genre since I heard Only Shallow late on the radio one night and had a religious experience.

Naturally my favourites have been posted by now, though no one has posted this Lush b-side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8SpJhZp_Zw

I thought I had something new to contribute to this thread except that...

appropriatemetaphor posted:

Here's some Tashiki Miyaki. Pretty dreamy and noisy.


BUT!! They have an album of covers out! It's loving awesome!

http://tashakimiyaki.bandcamp.com/

Check out the Guns 'n Roses & Troggs tracks especially. (The entire album is streamable.)

edit: Oh yeah, Quirk posted in the ebm/industrial thread that Dean Garcia released an album with him contributing:

http://deangarcia.bandcamp.com/albu...haus-volume-one

It's really loving fantastic. Like shoegaze developed in slightly different directions. I knew about his post-Curve band SPC ECO, but was unaware of his awesome solo stuff.

quote:

Das Haus features

Karin Vocals and Words on Your Blue Heart
Mike Quirk Phynder Electronica on Your Blue Heart
Mark Wallbridge Electronica on Inchin
Chibi Vocals and Words on All For You
Lucia Ciferelli Vocals and Words on Do It Right
Slade Templeton Bass Seq Loop on Do It Right
Julien GB Keyboard-tronics on Senseless
Lill Jeanette Halbakken Vocals and Words on Senseless
Rose Berlin Vocals and Words on One In A Million
Jeff Beck Guitar on Riverhall
Preston Maddox Vocals and Words on No Way Out and Steal You Away
Perry Pelonero Space Guitars on All For You, Steal You Away, Wired 2 and One More Day

teethgrinder fucked around with this message at Jan 19, 2013 around 16:50

PopZeus
Aug 11, 2010


So Kevin Shields has decided to toy with us yet again: http://www.avclub.com/articles/new-...t-in-two,91679/

Except...I actually sort of believe him this time. Maybe not that the new MBV will be out in a few days, but that an album does exist which will be more or less completed within the week.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!


Probably Magic posted:

Chiming in here on the Lush love, by far my favorite band. Concurring on Lovelife being not wholly representative of the sound for most of their career, which makes it ironic that it's the most popular of their albums. A great band, though, and Gala is a guaranteed listen for shoegazer fans everywhere.
Lush is hands-down my favorite band -- not just shoegaze/dreampop, but from any genre, ever.

I'm probably alone in thinking that Split is their best album. I love everything they've put out, but I feel like Split strikes a perfect balance between their earlier noisy sound and the later pop-sounding stuff. The album has such a great flow, too -- whoever ordered the tracks is a genius, because "Light from a Dead Star" is an excellent set-up for the noisier middle tracks, and "When I Die" is the perfect ending.

"Desire Lines" is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever recorded (the instrumental build-up starting around 3:20 is incredible):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9tcEuUWuhc

I've never found a band that sounds quite the same. A few of the tracks from Film School's "Fission" album, and short-lived 90's band Dreamscape (not to be confused with the kind of terrible new-age band of the same name) come the closest.

precision
May 7, 2006

Would you like to challenge?


I don't think liking Split the most is a terribly controversial opinion. It's certainly their most polished and ambitious, and gave us their best "regular pop song":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buz5D8OWmRc

Personally I like Spooky best, but all their stuff is gold, even if Lovelife has a couple duds it also has their amazing collaboration with Jarvis Cocker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Jvo5_IrlI

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!


While it's certainly not Lush, Miki Berenyi recently sang on a few tracks from the Seinking Ships album "Museum Quality Capture". (Spotify link)

Judging by the interviews I've read with the surviving members of Lush, they're not exactly opposed to a reunion (at least to play a few shows, if not an album), -- they haven't gotten the right offer yet. Coachella has approached them a few times but wasn't willing to pay what it would cost them to drop everything, meet up, rehearse, and play a show.

Maybe someday. I was sure I'd never get to see the Pixies play live, but then one day there I was in the front row with Joey Santiago's guitar almost literally in my face while he improvised the "Vamos" solo. Seeing Lush back together for a few shows seems a lot less far-fetched.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Grimey Drawer

Great, can't wait for "who the gently caress are Lush?"

That's a nice change though. Last time I saw Miki surface, she was saying she was a frumpy office lady now and had no interest.

precision
May 7, 2006

Would you like to challenge?



Ahahahahaha. Holy poo poo. Literally LOL.

"lovely band from manchester. over rates (sic) and hardly known outside the uk."

Yeah. Tell that to Sodastereo or their fans.

Ordinaire
Aug 31, 2008

Forks in the road we're not.


So the new My Bloody Valentine just dropped, in case anyone hasn't noticed.

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.org/

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side


Ordinaire posted:

So the new My Bloody Valentine just dropped, in case anyone hasn't noticed.

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.org/

Honestly can't believe it, but it seems like Kevin Shields wasn't just bullshitting this whole time.

It's giving me 403 Forbidden right now, I assume the traffic is too heavy. While I wait I'll post this track I heard today, I think it's brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrzCQ0rHb4s

von Braun
Oct 30, 2009


Broder Daniel Forever

Belong's Common Era is fantastic. Probably my most listened to album in 2012.

Stravinsky
May 31, 2011



von Braun posted:

Belong's Common Era is fantastic. Probably my most listened to album in 2012.

I love belong to bits. Have you listened to their ambient record October Language yet?

Genderman
Jan 17, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Really. REALLY!? This thread doesnt have one mention of the best torch bearer of shoegaze in modern times.

The Wild Nothing

They are up there with MBV, Radio Dept, Spiritualized and Galaxie 500 easily and maybe better than some of these guys. They just released a new album which is hands down album of the year for me, Nocturne



Paradise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm636VSQXUU Best song


Gemini is their first album and also amazing and perhaps more traditionally shoegazy

Chinatown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbAISMzd7vA

Live In Dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2mXIfA2xNs

Cover of Kate Bush's Cloudbursting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlsCrfTGmf8


Check it out you dirty, filthy apes

von Braun
Oct 30, 2009


Broder Daniel Forever

Stravinsky posted:

I love belong to bits. Have you listened to their ambient record October Language yet?

I have meant to give it a proper listen for a long time but I just haven't gotten around to it. I will do it very soon now that you mention it. Just have to listen to m b v a few more times first.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001



Is there a thread for current psychedelic music? I couldn't find one but didn't want to start one before checking...

het
Nov 14, 2002

A dark black past
is my most valued
possession


beatlegs posted:

Is there a thread for current psychedelic music? I couldn't find one but didn't want to start one before checking...
It's different enough that I think it's reasonable to start a new one, go ahead.

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005



Following on from Beautiful Noise news, there are a couple of other documentaries worth checking out- Anyone Can Play Guitar about the '90s Oxford scene (so Ride, Swervedriver) and Upside Down - The Creation Records Story. Alan McGee does come across as a bit of a self-important twat but there's no denying having the lion's share of essential acts of the genre was down to more than just luck. One gets the feeling with the way the label seemed to be run it was a miracle it lasted as long and was able to release as much as it did! (Too bad Adorable didn't even get a single mention in the entire doco though)

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.


It's sad that I never got into Shoegaze in the 90s as that type music would have spoken volumes to me in the middle of all the problems I was battling.

There's a feeling of "oh man, I missed out" when I look at this stuff now. So many of the bands I could have been into are well past their prime or broken up.

It's hard for me to say though - I probably would have dismissed a lot of it without thinking, and probably did. Maybe I can enjoy it more now as I'm more in touch with myself than I was back then.

In any case, I'm definitely enjoying the present decade - I'd say this decade, only three years in, musically feels like it was made for me. There's a lot of bands making music that is 'the kind of music I'd want to make if I were a musician' these days that appeal almost directly to my sensibilities.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at Feb 9, 2013 around 14:14

Floodixor
Aug 22, 2003

Forums Electronic MusiciaBRRRIIINGYIPYIPYIPYIP

ROFLBOT posted:

(Too bad Adorable didn't even get a single mention in the entire doco though)

Glad to see you mention them. Adorable's Against Perfection is one of the most perfect examples of britpop/shoegaze that I know of. I put it right up there with things like Longwave's The Strangest Things and so on. Just a fantastic album by a critically overlooked band. All of you should check 'em out.

worthless insect
Aug 12, 2012



Genderman posted:

Really. REALLY!? This thread doesnt have one mention of the best torch bearer of shoegaze in modern times.

The Wild Nothing

They are up there with MBV, Radio Dept, Spiritualized and Galaxie 500 easily and maybe better than some of these guys. They just released a new album which is hands down album of the year for me, Nocturne



Paradise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm636VSQXUU Best song


Gemini is their first album and also amazing and perhaps more traditionally shoegazy

Chinatown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbAISMzd7vA

Live In Dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2mXIfA2xNs

Cover of Kate Bush's Cloudbursting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlsCrfTGmf8


Check it out you dirty, filthy apes

Yeah, that album really kicks rear end. I remember when I was at the record store my buddy showed me how the album art is interchangeable because it has all these different inserts. Really cool. I'm bummed that I didn't buy a copy while it was still in.

worthless insect fucked around with this message at Feb 10, 2013 around 03:56

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

We will fight them to the last. And we will defend those that cannot defend themselves. Today we fight, brothers and sisters. Today we stand up and never, ever relent. Brothers and sisters -- prepare yourselves. Today we go to WAR!


Lipstick Apathy

WhiteHowler posted:

Lush is hands-down my favorite band -- not just shoegaze/dreampop, but from any genre, ever.

I'm probably alone in thinking that Split is their best album. I love everything they've put out, but I feel like Split strikes a perfect balance between their earlier noisy sound and the later pop-sounding stuff. The album has such a great flow, too -- whoever ordered the tracks is a genius, because "Light from a Dead Star" is an excellent set-up for the noisier middle tracks, and "When I Die" is the perfect ending.

"Desire Lines" is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever recorded (the instrumental build-up starting around 3:20 is incredible):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9tcEuUWuhc

I've never found a band that sounds quite the same. A few of the tracks from Film School's "Fission" album, and short-lived 90's band Dreamscape (not to be confused with the kind of terrible new-age band of the same name) come the closest.

I'm 100% with you on Split. Don't get me wrong, I love Spooky, but Split is much better to me because of pretty much everything you posted. Also, it has The Invisible Man, which is probably the most outright haunting thing they ever did.

That said, Split was also where they lost me. To this day I just can't sit through Lovelife at all.

Lush was pretty much my gateway into shoegaze years ago, which has been a good and bad thing. Finding anything else that accomplishes everything they do is literally impossible, and the search for such was rather disappointing. I did find some other branches of the genre to like, though.

precision posted:

I don't think liking Split the most is a terribly controversial opinion. It's certainly their most polished and ambitious, and gave us their best "regular pop song":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buz5D8OWmRc

I'm going to pretend that link points to Blackout, since you say it goes to their best "regular pop song"

Fenrir fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2013 around 20:31

precision
May 7, 2006

Would you like to challenge?


beatlegs posted:

Is there a thread for current psychedelic music? I couldn't find one but didn't want to start one before checking...

I was going to make a thread specifically about the psyche rock movement in Japan, so may I suggest a section about that? Or if you're not well versed in it, I'll just make a big post about it when you make said thread.

moctopus
Nov 28, 2005

Only the second best Thornton

precision posted:

I was going to make a thread specifically about the psyche rock movement in Japan, so may I suggest a section about that? Or if you're not well versed in it, I'll just make a big post about it when you make said thread.

That thread was made a few days ago, http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3532303

Would love to see more posts in it.

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005



Floodixor posted:

Glad to see you mention them. Adorable's Against Perfection is one of the most perfect examples of britpop/shoegaze that I know of. I put it right up there with things like Longwave's The Strangest Things and so on. Just a fantastic album by a critically overlooked band. All of you should check 'em out.

Indeed, and Against Perfection is surely the link between shoegaze and britpop- combining the sound of the former with the attitude of the latter.

Their second (and last) album I would describe as more studied and mature, but still excellent and well worth tracking down.

robin_ac30
Sep 15, 2005

i'm getting too young for this

ROFLBOT posted:

Indeed, and Against Perfection is surely the link between shoegaze and britpop- combining the sound of the former with the attitude of the latter.

Their second (and last) album I would describe as more studied and mature, but still excellent and well worth tracking down.

Ahh, Adorable were ace. Sunshine Smile still sounds amazingly fresh and is a cracking pop song.

Great live too, caught them a few times on that tour they did supporting Curve.

Pete from Adorable is about to release an album with Terry Bickers from House Of Love / Levitation too. It's dead good.

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005



They toured Australia once (AFAIK), i still remember the tour poster, and the fact that for whatever reason i decided not to bother seeing them

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Grimey Drawer

Just had serious Lush-flashbacks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyx96chJ8Fw

Ashmole
Oct 5, 2008

It won't open.

I didn't see this thread; just posted this somewhere else. Has anyone heard of NEV?

robin_ac30
Sep 15, 2005

i'm getting too young for this

Loop have reformed. Playing / Curating one of the ATP Festivals at Camber Sands in November, plus some other shows too.

Didn't think they'd ever do it! Be great to see em.

http://www.atpfestival.com/newsview/1304261021.php

Floodixor
Aug 22, 2003

Forums Electronic MusiciaBRRRIIINGYIPYIPYIPYIP

robin_ac30 posted:


Great live too, caught them a few times on that tour they did supporting Curve.


Oh my god, what a lineup.

I'm a huge Curve fan - how were they live?

Ashmole
Oct 5, 2008

It won't open.

I'm seeing Tamaryn, the Soft Moon, and the Raveonettes tonight. Should be aweeesome.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007


Ashmole posted:

I'm seeing Tamaryn, the Soft Moon, and the Raveonettes tonight. Should be aweeesome.

Ooh! I see Tamaryn is in LA on May 3. I don't know if I'll be able to go but I'm going to try...

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006



Ashmole posted:

I'm seeing Tamaryn, the Soft Moon, and the Raveonettes tonight. Should be aweeesome.

Whaaat, what a good lineup.

I might also go to the 5/3 Tamaryn show, but I always hate when stuff's at the echoplex, the space always feels too empty.

Ashmole
Oct 5, 2008

It won't open.

Yeah it's the Psychfest in Austin this weekend - a lot of good shoegaze stuff.

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004



Ashmole posted:

Yeah it's the Psychfest in Austin this weekend - a lot of good shoegaze stuff.

Make sure you see Black Mountain. They're not exactly shoegaze (more Pink Floyd mixed with a healthy dose of Sabbath), but they will still melt faces. They played a show up last night in Houston and it was a hell of a thing.

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Ashmole
Oct 5, 2008

It won't open.

I only got the Friday pass. I was thinking of going today just to see Deerhunter, but it's too expensive.

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