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glompix posted:I agree with this somewhat. MBV's stuff and maybe a handful of tracks from random bands like Airiel and No Joy are the only tracks I find myself humming. It's hard to develop hooks in shoegaze, I think. That isn't to say that shoegaze hasn't influenced and made better psych rock, dream pop, and all that other wonderfully hummable stuff. There's just a lot of material out there that sounds a lot alike and I think it's perfectly rational to put it on random and zone out a bit. It almost seems like a lot of shoegaze bands that followed MBV didn't realise or care that there were actually very strong melodies -- honest-to-goodness pop songs -- underneath and within all that guitar and synth texture. You could almost say it's something of a sensible next step from The Jesus & Mary Chain's noisy love of The Beach Boys and Phil Spector... I think that's what makes MBV seem to stand out for most people compared to a lot of their peers and followers maybe as well? Or at least that's how I see it, anyway, and I definitely appreciate the influence shoegaze has had on various styles of music -- ones I probably listen to more actually -- even if I don't listen to it very often. I don't think I can use Spotify since I'm in Canada but this thread has been very helpful all the same in finding worthwhile music. Thanks guys! 
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Shoegaze, at least in its stereotypical form, has always been about losing yourself in the moment and experiencing it rather than crafting catchy riffs that stay with you for days on end. Going to call this approach the Slowdive way of doing things. However there are plenty of shoegaze bands out there who are err more to the side of You Made Me Realise by MBV which have hard pounding hooks that will stick with you. Swervedriver, A Place To Bury Strangers, My Vitriol, and Coaltar Of The Deepers being prime examples. In a completely direction, Brazil has a really neat shoegaze scene. The Sorry Shop, Bela Infanta, Loomer, Kiergard, Lê Almeida, and Medialunas all have been getting plenty of playtime recently for me. Stravinsky fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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Did That on Television posted:I don't think I can use Spotify since I'm in Canada but this thread has been very helpful all the same in finding worthwhile music. Thanks guys! Their new plans confuse the gently caress out of me, but I gather at the very least you get full access free for half a year.
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I think I'd even say that the reason I got into Slowdive was because they had really catchy songs. "40 Days" and "Alison" were the first songs of theirs that I heard, and you can't deny those are drat catchy. And yeah, JAMC were a straight up demented pop band.
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You guys talked about Ringo Deathstarr but unless I'm blind you didn't post Chloe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RImnCD6_5f4 Is it weird that I put this song up there with MBV and Medicine?
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I've seen them a bunch of times in Austin. They're s great and they're always helping to support local bands. Not to mention that Alex is pretty easy on the eyes...
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Uniscott posted:What is it like seeing a shoegaze band live? Uhhhh.... imagine a bunch of white people standing around in an enclosed space not moving drinking beer and depending on the band having your eardrums ruptured.
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Also, they are almost invariably staring at their feet, either because they need to tapdance on their pedals or because they think that's what they should be doing
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In retrospect, MBV live was quite-possibly the least-lit band I've ever seen, possibly excepting Tool. I mean there WERE lights, they just kinda weren't pointed at the musicians. Unless I'm hallucinating, but that's what I remember.
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I went and saw Vivian girls and there were literally no lights on; the band asked people to shine their iphone flashlights on the stage... It was also hot.
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Allen Wren posted:In retrospect, MBV live was quite-possibly the least-lit band I've ever seen, possibly excepting Tool. I mean there WERE lights, they just kinda weren't pointed at the musicians. Unless I'm hallucinating, but that's what I remember.
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Yeah they really blasted the backing visuals at the audience brightly during the holocaust section. Was brutal.
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The entire show was like that for me. Almost complete sensory deprivation. Couldn't see poo poo because the lights were insanely bright, couldn't hear poo poo because the volume was obscenely loud, couldn't feel anything because everything was vibrating from the volume, couldn't taste beer because the crowd was too thick between the bar and me. All I can remember is the smell of the amps being overdriven. It was kind of awesome.
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That must have been it. I just remember not seeing much of the stage other than stacks and silhouettes. Also I'm short.
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There's a new Tashaki Miyaki video out, more low-key and dream poppy than some of their other stuff but I like it: https://vimeo.com/87517153
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Love them. A lot. Swervedriver linked this today: http://www.amoeba.com/blog/2014/03/pst/the-20-best-shoegaze-albums.html "Shoegaze? Pffft!" Some really odd choices, like I wouldn't put Catherine Wheel in that bracket, but basically all those albums are worth checking out if you haven't.
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All those albums are essential in this genre. Though I think Drop Nineteens 'Delaware' and loveliescrushing 'Bloweyelashwish' are too.
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Raveonettes did a cover of The End https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ2S5Ombl4U Pretty gazey.
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teethgrinder posted:Love them. A lot. Yes if anything the first CW album is the more obvious "shoegaze" choice, but both albums are excellent and well worth a listen. (unfortunately the same cant be said for the albums that followed...)
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Is Spacemen 3 not considered shoegaze? Otherwise I don't understand how they aren't anywhere on that list. Personally I'd put them at the top along with MBV but I guess Amoeba calls them something else.
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ROFLBOT posted:Yes if anything the first CW album is the more obvious "shoegaze" choice, but both albums are excellent and well worth a listen. (unfortunately the same cant be said for the albums that followed...) I agree, though I quite liked their 1997 album, Adam and Eve. Admittedly by then they had gotten rid of most 'shoegaze' influences in their sound. Thanks for this. Never listened to them before, but really liking it.
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Snowy posted:Is Spacemen 3 not considered shoegaze? Otherwise I don't understand how they aren't anywhere on that list. Personally I'd put them at the top along with MBV but I guess Amoeba calls them something else. No, they're usually considered "drone/psyche rock" or "noise" if anything. I've definitely never heard anyone call them "shoegaze" in the past... 20 some years I've been listening to them.
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precision posted:No, they're usually considered "drone/psyche rock" or "noise" if anything. I've definitely never heard anyone call them "shoegaze" in the past... 20 some years I've been listening to them. Never? I'm not into splitting hairs with defining genres but I've definitely heard them described that way plenty of times over the years (sounds like we've been into them around the same time). Oh well, guess I don't like shoegaze as much as I thought then 
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Snowy posted:Never? I'm not into splitting hairs with defining genres but I've definitely heard them described that way plenty of times over the years (sounds like we've been into them around the same time). Well, let's just say I can't remember ever hearing anyone call them shoegaze. It may have something to do with geographical location or the kinds of people your or I have hung out with. I'm not really a genre Nazi, but I don't think of them that way; they started out as kind of an update of Suicide and then got more psychedelic and dreamy as Jason did more heroin. I mean I wouldn't think of calling "So Hot", "Honey", "Bright Lights Big City", "Ode to Street Hassle", etc. shoegazey.  Everyone should listen to them though because they were the best.
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These covers are pretty neat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbf8h3sykiw
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Uniscott posted:These covers are pretty neat. I like it. Not as good as Japancakes acoustic version, but still really solid. "Tokyo Shoegaze" has got to be the laziest name for a band though.
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Do we know the current status of Beautiful Noise (the upcoming shoegaze documentary)? Last I heard it was to be released this year, 2014.
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Oliver Reed posted:Do we know the current status of Beautiful Noise (the upcoming shoegaze documentary)? Last I heard it was to be released this year, 2014.
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Beautiful noise, the mbv of documentaries.
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Speaking of live shoegaze concerts, I saw White Cascade opening for Ringo Deathstarr recently, and everyone stood twenty feet back from it for the entire concert, then awkwardly moved up when the next opener was a different genre, so that was amusing. I think there is a tendency to be somewhat detached at these gigs as opposed to an excitable affair, but I imagine a MBV concert would be different from, say, every other shoegaze act that existed.
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Now this is a cool idea, a cover of Beatles songs with shoegazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfm-fehAYx0
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Uniscott posted:Now this is a cool idea, a cover of Beatles songs with shoegazing.  e: Haha gently caress, Strawberry Fields is so great 
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:God this owns. I just wish that A) there were more of my favorite Beatles songs on here, and B) there was a download link I found a download of it, but I haven't seen anywhere where I can actually buy the album. It's so hard to find Japanese shoegaze music.
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Uniscott posted:I found a download of it, but I haven't seen anywhere where I can actually buy the album. It's so hard to find Japanese shoegaze music. https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/beatless-shoegazer-covers/id666734939
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Uniscott posted:Well, I guess I don't know how to search for stuff. A lot of smaller Japanese bands tend to not release their albums in the us (for different reasons like licensing issues, not worth the effort, not giving a drat, etc.) so you have to specifically search .jp websites instead of just googling the bands name and buy.
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It seems like Beautiful Noise is done and has a premiere date. http://www.siff.net/festival-2014/beautiful-noise
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Wow, I just founds this thread, as I was looking for new music to listen to. I'm a big shoegaze nerd, but mostly listen to the weird Euro stuff. Let me introduce you guys to the 'Lost Rivers'. German noisy shoe-gaze-post-punk-surf, not unlike 'A place to bury strangers'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSii_UZ_3Wk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOvWzfOD5lo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1918k1QYIM Principe Valiente from Sweden is another great band, a little bit more rock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFmZeQ0Dhow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBkA3ppR64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWqfyunZzaI Other bands like: Avoxblue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw05N6dAzvs The Silent Section https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2m6BNK9KpM are all fantastic too.
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The Jesus and Mary Chain are apparently doing the nostalgia thing with Psychocandy. http://www.nme.com/news/the-jesus-and-mary-chain/77286 I wonder if they get Bobby to drum for them.
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