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xzzy posted:Because rec hockey players are also NHL hockey fans and want to emulate what they see on TV. Which, to be fair, these days is also a lot of just throwing the puck on net at every opportunity.
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More or less, but there's still a few highlight trick goals every year and that keeps the dream alive. I couldn't tell you how many mites I've seen working on Hertl's goal this past year.
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xzzy posted:More or less, but there's still a few highlight trick goals every year and that keeps the dream alive. That's just because Hertl is awesome and they want to be like him.
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Levitate posted:Ah hah, I knew Gretzky scored a faceoff goal Haha, this video is awesome  edit: yeah, if you're just playing road hockey with some random guys, if you get a decent shot on net it will go in probably half the time. Last time I played there was probably a goal scored every few minutes. It's crazy how good the defence/goaltending is in the NHL when they can play a full 60 minute game against the best goalscorers in the world and only let in about 2 or 3 goals. Number Two Stunna fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Jun 19, 2014 |
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Robo-Pope posted:On a side note, in that ridiculous year where Lemieux scored 160 in 60, he was on pace to beat #2 Lafontaine by 51%, which doesn't put him at the top but stuffs him right in with all those Gretzky seasons. He was also on pace for 97 goals, which would be the NHL record by a margin of 5. I know this is super late, but after years and years of reading the great Gretzky/Lemieux debates, the best response I have for Gretzky is this: Lemieux's career, like Orr's, is a huge "what if?" However, Gretzky actually did those things that Lemieux could have done. This is why Lemieux is usually ranked as the fourth best player of all-time. The top three are Gretzky, Howe, and Orr (take your pick), and Lemieux barely trails behind. After that, there's a pretty huge gap between Lemieux and whoever you want to put fifth (Harvey? Hull? Beliveau? Richard?). A post one month late.
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I think there's a fair argument to be made for Bobby Orr being the best player of all time. What he did was absolutely ridiculous.
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Twin Cinema posted:a pretty huge gap between Lemieux and whoever you want to put fifth BALD HEADED CHAMPION 
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a false posted:BALD I really wish in those stupid Can-Am Spider commercials Mess is in that he'd drive off while crunching down on a potato chip.
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Ginette Reno posted:I think there's a fair argument to be made for Bobby Orr being the best player of all time. What he did was absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, that's why I said take your pick. I am a fan of the 1a, 1b, 1c ranking for Gretzky, Orr, and Howe, because each player has something unique from the other two players that makes them have a legitimate case for best player of all-time. a false posted:BALD For a small time in the 90s, I think I only knew Mark Messier as the Lay's potato chip guy. This is not a true statement, but I really want to emphasis for anyone who wasn't around how loving often they would play the Messier Lay's commercials.
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Do hockey advanced stats have an equivalent stat for goalies to baseball's ERA+ for pitchers? Essentially a simple stat to compare goalies from different eras?
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Hockey reference has GA%
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DannoMack posted:Do hockey advanced stats have an equivalent stat for goalies to baseball's ERA+ for pitchers? Essentially a simple stat to compare goalies from different eras? Hockey reference has a column titled GA%- which is more or less what you're looking for, but goals against average isn't looked at that much with goalies since it's as much a function of how many shots a team allows as it is the goaltender's actual ability. I should also add that H-ref's stat is based on more voodoo than just goals against average so use at your own risk.
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Thanks! I didn't realize that lower was better at first and was wondering why everyone sucks.
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Really when you think about it, goalies are the worst.
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DannoMack posted:and was wondering why everyone sucks. To hear fans describe it, all hockey players on their favorite team do in fact suck. Every other team has all the best players. Paradoxically when good players are traded to a fan's favorite team, they suck too.
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xzzy posted:To hear fans describe it, all hockey players on their favorite team do in fact suck. Every other team has all the best players. Austrian Mook and Duro sure tell a different story. E: vvvv 
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xzzy posted:Paradoxically when good players are traded to a fan's favorite team, they suck too. This is actually true for the Rangers though
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Except for Jagr, who basically played with  with the Capitals but has worked his rear end of with pretty much every other team he was with including the Rangers.
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A cursory look through the forums has yielded nothing, so I thought I would ask here. Are there any goon-affiliated hockey pools? My usual group fell apart last year and I was hoping to line something up come October.
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Danforth05 posted:A cursory look through the forums has yielded nothing, so I thought I would ask here. Normally one or two will pop up before the season, usually in The Armchair Quarterback forum.
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Danforth05 posted:A cursory look through the forums has yielded nothing, so I thought I would ask here. Yes, follow DOOMocrat's advice. I know of three leagues off the top of my head: LOLHL, Fed League, and the HHL. I am pretty sure there is one other league. For the leagues I am involved with (LOLHL and HHL), they are both looking for new people every year. The HHL is a keeper pool, if that peaks your interest more.
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Cool. Thanks guys.
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My local rink just announced that there will be no more stick time, putting one more pickup game in its place. They said it was because stick time always filled up and they want to get more people on the ice—so why not just have a second weekly stick time? Instead you're going to have a game with 15 people on each bench, with no accounting for skill levels. No more practice time at all, which I think is the pits. 
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a false posted:BALD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7orVIVroXrU fake edit: is there hockey coaching chat anywhere?
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Question for all you rule experts out there, is the puck technically out of the zone when it breaks the plane of the neutral zone like a football touchdown? Or does the puck need to entirely cross into the neutral zone so you see white between the puck and the blue line? I was always under the assption that as long as it was touching the blue line it's still in the offensive zone, the reason I ask is because the Rangers got called for offsides tonight when the puck was still on the blue line but touching the neutral zone. I'm not sure if that's the right call or a bad call.
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Jovial Cow posted:Question for all you rule experts out there, is the puck technically out of the zone when it breaks the plane of the neutral zone like a football touchdown? Or does the puck need to entirely cross into the neutral zone so you see white between the puck and the blue line? I was always under the assption that as long as it was touching the blue line it's still in the offensive zone, the reason I ask is because the Rangers got called for offsides tonight when the puck was still on the blue line but touching the neutral zone. I'm not sure if that's the right call or a bad call. To be in (or out) of the zone, both skates have to cross the line (entirely). Same with the puck. It's like a goal, it doesn't just have to break, it has to clear If the play was moving fast, I'm sure it was just a missed call
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Jovial Cow posted:Question for all you rule experts out there, is the puck technically out of the zone when it breaks the plane of the neutral zone like a football touchdown? Or does the puck need to entirely cross into the neutral zone so you see white between the puck and the blue line? I was always under the assption that as long as it was touching the blue line it's still in the offensive zone, the reason I ask is because the Rangers got called for offsides tonight when the puck was still on the blue line but touching the neutral zone. I'm not sure if that's the right call or a bad call. It's the same as a goal- the whole puck has to cross the whole line.
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Jovial Cow posted:Question for all you rule experts out there, is the puck technically out of the zone when it breaks the plane of the neutral zone like a football touchdown? Or does the puck need to entirely cross into the neutral zone so you see white between the puck and the blue line? I was always under the assption that as long as it was touching the blue line it's still in the offensive zone, the reason I ask is because the Rangers got called for offsides tonight when the puck was still on the blue line but touching the neutral zone. I'm not sure if that's the right call or a bad call. It doesn't appear the NHL rulebook actually stipulates this. Buuuut…the USA Hockey casebook states: USA Hockey Casebook posted:The determining edge is the edge further from the zone in which the puck is located. Rule Reference 630(a). I imagine this is the same in the NHL, but I can't find the casebook online.
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This is from the 12-13 NHL rulebook online: http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/pdfs/2012-13_RuleBook.pdf code:
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myron cope posted:This is from the 12-13 NHL rulebook online: That doesn't address the issue of when the puck has left the zone, though. I too would assume the entire puck needs to cross the line (a la USA Hockey) and that it was just a bad line call.
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See also Hockey Canada off-side situation 10. The "N" in NHL. I'd love to see that NHL case book though.
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PFlats posted:That doesn't address the issue of when the puck has left the zone, though. I too would assume the entire puck needs to cross the line (a la USA Hockey) and that it was just a bad line call. You're right, I suppose, it doesn't deal with that at all. But, I would assume (and it may be foolish to assume) that it would work the same way exiting the zone as it does entering. And that's how I've mostly seen it called too
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Word is the return of the World Cup will be announced during All-Star Weekend in my neck of the woods. How did/does the World Cup differ from Olympic play, and does one mean the NHLers probably won't be in the other?
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CBJSprague24 posted:Word is the return of the World Cup will be announced during All-Star Weekend in my neck of the woods. There's less games and no weak teams so it's a bit more íntense. It's before the season so everyone is somewhat rusty. Rules, refs and schedule is tailored for North Americans which makes Euro fans whine even more than usual.
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It is also less exciting because the players don't care all that much
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Yeah but I heard that the final might be best of 3 which would be hilarious. Good to see this thread back.
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Kennel posted:There's less games and no weak teams so it's a bit more íntense. It also makes the proper IIHF WC worse, so it's bad for hockey in Europe. Especially for nations that are excluded 
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CBJSprague24 posted:How did/does the World Cup differ from Olympic play, and does one mean the NHLers probably won't be in the other? The NHL is never going back to the Olympics unless someone in the US or Canada is dumb enough to pay to host them
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