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Deadpool posted:This will almost certainly never happen. I would have said the same thing about DC 6 months ago. Then again, the people running Marvel don't appear to be a group of drooling retards like those running DC.
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DynamicSloth posted:They'd have to be incompetent to do so, Marvel's never felt the need to reboot their continuity and DC's done it a half dozen times, but for some reason people can still enjoy Marvel comics without having to worry about how Reed and Ben Grimm fought in WWII or how Tony Stark fought in Vietnam. Well Marvel has sliding time, which DC can't seem to figure out. So now Tony fought in Desert Storm instead of Vietnam, and such. Except the Punisher. He still ages, but just gets de-aged by turning into an angel with a magic trenchcoat, or a frankenstein monster, every now and then.
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Aug 27, 2011 06:06
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Kaleidoscope posted:Seriously. Hickman's FF is one of the best Marvel books running right now IMO. Really looking forward to seeing where he's going. Ben hasn't been suicidal, or even the Thing, since the beginning of Ultimate Enemy. I really want to see what they do with him and Sue now, myself.
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Aug 29, 2011 00:34
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I like some of the old 60's stuff (not as much as I like the really early stuff from the 30's), but what kills me is the repetition. A character will say what they're going to do, think what they're going to do, and then it will say it again in the yellow box, and then show them doing it. It seems like they hadn't really gotten the idea of "show, don't tell" down yet.
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Aug 29, 2011 06:32
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Anyone else read Ultimate Hawkeye? It would have been better if the first third of the issue wasn't just "Previously, in The Ultimates..." I wonder what the ramifications of the SEAR virus that eliminates the human capacity to activate the X gene is going to be. I wonder if they're going to be dealing with that in Ultimate X-Men at all, mainly, and if so, it makes me really happy that we're going to have a totally cohesive universe going here.
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Aug 31, 2011 23:38
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It wasn't a movie actually. It was an unlicensed Japanese anime that Tony hates.
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Sep 1, 2011 01:36
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When I first heard that Bagely was leaving, I was sad. Then it was announced that Immonen was taking over, and I was happy. Then Immonen left, and I didn't really like anyone after him until Bagely came back.
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Sep 2, 2011 07:05
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^burtle posted:Haven't racists really only been irritated over the last like two months? You don't remember the poo poo storm from when black Nick Fury was introduced, do you? Some of it even carried over to when they used that version in the movies a while ago. Spider-Man is definitely getting more main stream racist hate though, with the whole Glenn Beck thing and all.
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Sep 9, 2011 01:07
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Argue posted:I saw someone mention this in the funny panels thread--are the Ultimates really up against the Future Foundation? Does it actually tie into the many Reeds thing in 616 or is that a happy coincidence? Same writer is writing both titles, and has made an Ultimate version of something he's doing in the 616, at the same time. It's pretty cool, but they're not related to one another. We have no idea what the Ultimate FF is yet, but it looks to be parallel universe versions of the Fantastic Four, who are working for Reed and his evil plans.
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Sep 9, 2011 07:39
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TwoPair posted:Really? I thought he was just getting a bunch of psychos together to "solve everything". I didn't think they were alternate FFs. Although there were a lot of blondes in that crowd... It really looked to me like a bunch of Johnny's and Sue's. They haven't said one way or another yet though.
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Sep 9, 2011 08:18
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Shageletic posted:This was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I just can't get over how badly Reed's heel turn was managed. Bendis kinda threw gigantic set-piece after set-piece without bothering to fill in what the hell his motivations were. Seriously, that was incredibly botched. He was going off of what Loeb started. Reed snapped when Ultimatum happened, and decided that reacting to threats wasn't working anymore, and he had to be proactive. But he's a huge sperg who doesn't get relationships and the value of human life, so his answer is "change everything I think is wrong by killing them." It makes sense to me.
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Sep 12, 2011 02:52
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Kaleidoscope posted:One would think a big company like Marvel even prior to Disney wouldn't be drawing a major character in a very obvious likeness to a hugely famous movie star without some sort of approval first. Let me tell you a little story about a man named Greg Land...
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Sep 12, 2011 18:54
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Kaleidoscope posted:Fair enough, though it could be pretty great to see Tommy Lee Jones play Norman Osborn in the Spider-Man reboot. Here's Ray Liotta and Ben Affleck:  E: And here's several others: http://jimsmashextended.blogspot.com/2008/07/greg-land-tracing-swiping-recycling.html http://jimsmash.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-greg-land-ripoffs.html Vince MechMahon fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Sep 13, 2011 |
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Sep 13, 2011 01:59
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Blind Sally posted:I wonder if the 42 is just a throw-away reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. They used 42 in Civil War too. It was how many steps that Reed Richards and Tony Stark had in their plan to fix the world.
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Sep 16, 2011 00:36
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Flameingblack posted:So by the time he comes of age, the new Spider-Man should be around 15 or 16, which is cool. I loved USM when it started, and I loved when they toyed with Spider-Man's powers in Feral and through Civil War. I'm all for the new Spider-Man. What do you mean by this? He'll still be 13 unless his birthday falls between when he got his powers and Peter died. Peter's entire career as Spider-Man only lasted about a year, give or take.
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Sep 16, 2011 22:20
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Memphis Raines posted:Hahah, from page 2 of that preview: I'm sure that's exactly what it is, and I'm also sure he's done stuff like that before, I just can't remember any specific examples of it right now.
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Sep 22, 2011 21:50
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Deadpool posted:Yeah, even with stuff like Geldoff I'd say that USM is probably the best Spider-Man stuff overall that I've ever read. Saying it's not that different from 616 and not reading it is selling it unbelievably short. Hey man, Geldoff was awesome. "It's vindy up here, yeah? It's vindy!"- Geldoff. NEVER FORGET.
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Sep 29, 2011 18:40
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I would read a Geldoff & Magician ongoing series. Magician just being a creepy rear end in a top hat, and Geldoff with his Latka Gravis like innocence and naievity. It would be like a buddy cop movie.
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Sep 29, 2011 19:36
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Spurite Based posted:Now that I think about it, the only original Ultimate Universe characters I actually liked were the foul-mouthed mother-and-daughter super-villain team in Ultimate Spider-man that showed up maybe twice and disappeared off the face of the earth. The girl was in school with Peter and them but then he died and nothing ever came of it.
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Sep 29, 2011 19:39
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notthegoatseguy posted:Loki has been present since Ultimates v1 when Thor was first introduced, though he becomes heavily involved in v2. He kind of sets everything up in that he makes it seem as if Cap, then Thor, are traitors to the team, and also leads the battle against the Ultimates at the end of v2. The best part about him becoming the villain in Ultimates 2 was going back and noticing that he was drawn in a bunch of panels in previous issues, and no one had noticed him.
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Sep 29, 2011 23:15
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Aces High posted:so with the conclusion of Ultimate Fallout: Death of Spider-Man does that mean we will never hear from Mary Jane, Aunt May and Gwen ever again? That's too bad since it seemed like a really rushed way to sweep them all out of the series, also Fury dropping the bomb that he knew Pete's father and had watched him grow up and was grooming and blah blah blah useless fluff that means little now that Peter's DEAD Aunt May is supposed to be in the new Spider-Man in some capacity.
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Oct 3, 2011 05:02
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Ultimate X-Men is a direct continuation of Ultimate X.
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Oct 5, 2011 07:56
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Myrddin Emrys posted:I thought so too, but then I was wondering, did we ever find out who, exactly, was putting together the Ultimate X team? They kept hinting that someone was driving it but I don't recall if that went anywhere because gently caress Ultimate X. It was Nick Fury. Who's kind of like God, I guess.
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Oct 13, 2011 17:54
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The only thing I don't like about Hawkeye is it retconning out him and Widow's first appearance, where he says he doesn't have any implants or anything. Then again, I guess Millar himself already retconned that out when he turned him into having Bullseye powers and being able to kill people with his own fingernails so...meh.
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Oct 25, 2011 07:10
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Lurdiak posted:It was a mistake to get Kirkman to do the second mini and the Dead Days thing, because his heart obviously wasn't in it, and it sort of crippled the entire gimmick. He really phoned that one in. That one FF crossover wasn't a bad story but was really unnecessary and removed the hard boundary between the Zombieverse and the regular Marvel-verse, which was a bad decision. It also ruined their whole "The Ultimate Universe and the 616 are not in the same multiverse, there is no chance for a cross over, ever" thing that they always said by showing they are in the same multiverse.
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Oct 25, 2011 18:15
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Happy Hippo posted:Aren't there an infinite number of universes in the multiverse? If true then by definition they are a part of the same multiverse. Marvel said before that they weren't in the same multiverse, and there would never, ever be any crossovers between the two because of this. That's why it was a big thing when the zombie arc started and they billed it as a crossover between the 616 and the Ultimate universe, and then swerved it to being the zombie thing.
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Oct 25, 2011 21:29
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Myrddin Emrys posted:This isn't true anymore. I switched to all-digital recently and they've got all the big-name books out day-and-date these days, even Ultimate comics. I believe the just started doing this about a week or two ago though, right? Older, archive stuff, even recent stuff like Ulimate Doom, might still be on a delayed schedule, or just not high on the docket of stuff to get moved over.
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Oct 27, 2011 21:23
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Dickeye posted:Dude absolutely lost his mind when he realized he hit Peter and started screaming at SHIELD to punish him. I'd actually like to see him come back and hunt down the villains that actually killed Peter. He would have survived the gunshot wound if not for them ambushing him, and all. Maybe Miles gets blamed for their deaths, as he's the new Spider-Man or something.
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Oct 30, 2011 04:27
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Wachter posted:I'd like to see this. Ultimate Punisher totally snapped in that scene, which I thought was one of the few decent beats of that mini (it was in Ultimate Avengers vs New Ultimates, right?). Have we had an Ultimate Jigsaw yet? There have been no Punisher specific villains in any Ultimate books so far. He's only been shown fighting C-list Spider-Man/Daredevil/Whatever villains like Boomerang. And then he shot Jean DeWolfe that one time.
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Nov 1, 2011 01:53
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Bendis had already made Frank more hardcore than he is in the 616 by having him ditch his whole "I won't kill cops, even crooked ones" rule, and Millar took it on the next logical step up from that by making him even crazier. And anyone who likes Orson Scott Card's Iron Man books is broken. It being turned (in universe) into an unlicensed anime that Tony Stark hates is the best thing that came of any of it.
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Nov 2, 2011 00:42
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Myrddin Emrys posted:No, I really liked it too, and thought that the take on the character was fresh and unique. Then they just turned Tony into 616-Tony with a tumor. No they didn't. First off, Ultimates came before Cards stuff, so Card was the one ignoring continuity. And then they only mention the tumor once, and Millar decided he didn't like it, and retconned it out himself.
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Nov 2, 2011 22:26
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Myrddin Emrys posted:Well, to be fair Ultimates only just barely came out first, and I don't think it directly contradicted anything from Iron Man until later anyway. What the gently caress are you talking about? Ultimates started in 2002, and the tumor was mentioned in issue 6 of it, so that would probably be around 2003 or so with the schedule it was on. It was whichever issue Tony and them all got together at his house. Ultimate Iron Man came out in 2005. So you're telling me that in the 2 years or so between them Card couldn't get around to reading Ultimates and make something that fit in with it? And it's never been hard retconned out, but Millar has said in interviews it was a mistake giving him the tumor and no one has ever mentioned it since (except maybe Loeb but he doesn't count).
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Nov 3, 2011 03:39
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SpeedofLife posted:It was explicitly mentioned in the first issue of Ultimate Avengers vs. New Ultimates. Man, that shows how much I've actually been paying attention to Millar's more recent work, I guess...
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Nov 3, 2011 06:29
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I'm glad we never got Ultimate Iron Man 3, as I'm sure it would have been Iron Monger showing up, but instead of being evil he's just a gay dude, and then Tony would have had to murder him for trying to destroy the American way of life. I'm saying that Orson Scott Card is a terrible loving person.
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Nov 3, 2011 17:34
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Nick Spencer is like Jeph Loeb's very own Tyler Durden. When his son died he splintered into two personalities, one of which was Spencer was was still writing good comics, completely unaware that he was actually Jeph Loeb, and the other that kept his name, and went bat poo poo crazy. Now the two are forming back into one.
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Nov 5, 2011 23:38
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^burtle posted:What? It was a joke. Read the three posts above that.
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Nov 6, 2011 20:23
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Also, anyone bothered to check the the previous comics to see if he was in the crowds? All the crowds in 160 are silhouettes, except in one panel, in the page where MJ is yelling that they should call an ambulance, where there's a random black dude standing next to Aunt May and Gwen. This could be him, or just...some random black dude.
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Nov 9, 2011 23:21
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Maybe I've been watching Deadwood too much, but having an Asian guy leading the Celestials seems a tad bit racist to me.
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Nov 24, 2011 22:30
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:"Celestial" is old-tymey slang for "Asian immigrant." Like, 1800s old-tymey. I wasn't being serious, it was just a joke. Like I said, I've been rewatching Deadwood lately so that hundred year old slang was in my head and it just made me chuckle. I'm sure it wasn't intended at all, and nobody has used that word in that context for a century anyway.
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No, he's not still blue brain matter. All of Card's stuff is now, in universe, an unlicensed Iron Man anime that Tony Stark hates.
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