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DEAR RICHARD posted:Someone should make an Opeth thread because I want to talk about how pretty I think The Night and The Silent Water is. Have you heard the live version on Roundhouse Tapes? Completely redefines the song. (I agree with you.)
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 01:25 |
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hemophilia posted:I'm glad for that. To me, power metal is perfect at what it does, and for the most part it seems largely above the race to the bottom many other subgenres of metal suffer from. It's not my favorite kind of metal, but I like how consistent it has been over the years. quote:I like new ideas, but I have a hard time appreciating change for the sake of change. Making your music harder, darker, and tuning down the guitars another whole-step while making your lyrics even more incomprehensible -all for the sake of being different- is not exactly brilliant or interesting, and I can think of a few bands where that sort of philosophy has ruined perfectly good music.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 01:31 |
het posted:Man, I like power metal, but you make it sound like oatmeal. Haha, I didn't mean to make it sound like oatmeal like you say, I enjoy the hell out of it, and the genre is far from bland, but it really only does one specific thing for me. I'll concede your second point to a certain degree, I just don't understand how metal is on this perpetual quest to be harder-darker-faster-more brutal-what-have-you, because after a certain point it just sounds like noise to my ears. I listen to metal more than any other genre, but once you start getting to stuff that's harder than, say, Kalmah and Arch Enemy (and I know I'll be laughed at for this, but whatever), I don't get how anyone could enjoy it. I realize tastes are subjective, but I was just remarking that most power metal bands seem to be quite above that race to the bottom, which I can appreciate because I don't care for it at all.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 03:31 |
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I like grindcore because the older I get the shorter my attention span gets.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 03:59 |
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het posted:Man, I like power metal, but you make it sound like oatmeal. Like Power Metal, oatmeal is wonderful when freshly made, sprinkled with cinnamon and flax seeds, and served with organic vanilla almond milk
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 05:38 |
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I'm not really a big fan of power metal but I always have a soft spot in my heart for Finist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqyAQJ08kg8
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 05:39 |
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DEAR RICHARD posted:Someone should make an Opeth thread because I want to talk about how pretty I think The Night and The Silent Water is. I remember seeing them live once, and Mikael told the crowd about how he wrote the song after his granddad died, and everyone went 'Awwwwwwwww'. It was a bit of an odd moment.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 05:46 |
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hemophilia posted:Haha, I didn't mean to make it sound like oatmeal like you say, I enjoy the hell out of it, and the genre is far from bland, but it really only does one specific thing for me. If you stick with metal, you'll probably start liking the more brutal stuff. Three years ago I thought death metal sounded awful, but I got really into Opeth for their proggier parts, just sort of tolerating the growls and stuff, but after a while I started to appreciate what it did for the music. Now I play Cryptopsy while I'm eating my breakfast. It just takes a while to overcome your initial reaction and be able to break it apart. It's a gradual transition for sure, though.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 06:05 |
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DEAR RICHARD posted:Someone should make an Opeth thread because I want to talk about how pretty I think The Night and The Silent Water is. Someone needs to do this. And yes, it is very pretty. Patterns in the Ivy II is maybe their prettiest, though (it's a bonus track).
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 06:14 |
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BSchlang posted:If you stick with metal, you'll probably start liking the more brutal stuff. Three years ago I thought death metal sounded awful, but I got really into Opeth for their proggier parts, just sort of tolerating the growls and stuff, but after a while I started to appreciate what it did for the music. Now I play Cryptopsy while I'm eating my breakfast. It just takes a while to overcome your initial reaction and be able to break it apart. It's a gradual transition for sure, though. Rock > Hammerfall > Iced Earth > Edge of Sanity > Bolt Thrower > Aborted.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 06:31 |
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Cheeze Kuyeh posted:Rock > Hammerfall > Iced Earth > Edge of Sanity > Bolt Thrower > Aborted. Amazingly enough, you dont stop listening to any of the stuff that preceded. (Also theres a prog thread around here somewhere. Opeth chat should probably go in there.)
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 06:36 |
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Defiant Sally posted:Amazingly enough, you dont stop listening to any of the stuff that preceded. That thread's mostly 70s prog, and it Dream Theater gets its own thread, then so should Opeth
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 06:40 |
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BSchlang posted:That thread's mostly 70s prog, and it Dream Theater gets its own thread, then so should Opeth Well, I love Opeth, so I'd start it if I have time. As a though the OP probably wouldnt be complete before the album came out though.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 06:45 |
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Defiant Sally posted:Well, I love Opeth, so I'd start it if I have time. As a though the OP probably wouldnt be complete before the album came out though. Well poo poo, just make it anyway and edit the OP later. Honestly, I don't care if the OP is just "Let's talk Opeth." I just want a place to gush over my favorite band.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 06:57 |
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Defiant Sally posted:(Also theres a prog thread around here somewhere. Opeth chat should probably go in there.) What, is there no boring soulless crap thread?
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 07:27 |
IRQ posted:What, is there no boring soulless crap thread? Why do people hate on Opeth so much? Say what you will about them, Akerfeldt is a drat good songwriter and their live lineup is one of the most solid in the biz. He's also humble while still commanding an air of arrogance. Watching documentaries and interviews makes him seem like the coolest guy to hang out with. Granted, their popularity has EXPLODED recently and they seem to be a token band for a lot of insufferable metal kiddies, but they're pretty good at what they do regardless of whether you like the music or not.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 08:48 |
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YeahTubaMike posted:I like both over Bruce "Cat Being Murdered" Dickinson.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 09:49 |
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You want the best power metal out there? You can't go past the first four Manowar albums. I know its cool to hate on them, and the cheese definitely gets bad on the later releases (although there is a shitload of cheesier stuff out there) - but the first few discs? The truest of True Metal. Also you could try some Omen, first three albums are great, especially Battle Cry.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 10:03 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Am I going to have to find the article where a classical voice coach wrote about how good Bruce Dickinson's voice was, or can we just agree that you don't appreciate voices with ridiculous range, and he doesn't actually sound like a cat being murdered? Here it is anyway because it's important reading.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 10:58 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PimgcBIc90I Preview snippets from the new Opeth album. I'm...really hesitant about this one. A couple of those tracks sound okay, but the rest are pretty meh. Hopefully these poor quality samples aren't indicative of the whole album.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 12:53 |
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A new Detroit band just got picked up by Metal Blade: Battlecross. It's very technical thrash, and they're all very good musicians, but it does have a touch of the "bro" to it. While it really isn't my cup of tea, it's nice to see this town represented by more than just BDM.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 13:27 |
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drat so I don't check the forums for a few days, and we have a brand new metal thread and a lot to catch up on. I'll get started listening to the rec's from this thread after I'm finished listening to loving Bilateral, this poo poo is amazing.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 15:14 |
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BSchlang posted:Well poo poo, just make it anyway and edit the OP later.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 15:54 |
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People who think all power metal sounds the same don't really know the genre at all. US and European power metal styles are completely different, and the older US bands tend to have much more in common with thrash and/or speed than symphonic metal. Unfortunately it's the keyboard and saccharine production laden continental European style that most people picture at the mention of the genre.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 16:34 |
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Still one of the most amazing songs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZUysqemMmg
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 20:49 |
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Y'all should listen to Ancients from Vancouver. It's unusual for a fast metal band to hold my attention, but I like the way they combine melody and swing with precision without sounding lame. They're absolutely one of the best live bands in the city right now, and I've seen them unleash a couple of 9-10 minute monsters at some recent shows.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 22:44 |
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Juaguocio posted:Y'all should listen to Ancients from Vancouver. It's unusual for a fast metal band to hold my attention, but I like the way they combine melody and swing with precision without sounding lame. They're absolutely one of the best live bands in the city right now, and I've seen them unleash a couple of 9-10 minute monsters at some recent shows. I've been rocking their EP a lot over the last few days. Can't wait to hear where they go from here because there's a whole lot of potential in those 14 minutes. I'd love to see them live, but I don't live anywhere near Vancouver right now.
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# ? Sep 1, 2011 22:50 |
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Cpt. Spring Types posted:I've been rocking their EP a lot over the last few days. Can't wait to hear where they go from here because there's a whole lot of potential in those 14 minutes. I'd love to see them live, but I don't live anywhere near Vancouver right now. Kenny and Chris are always telling me about "crushing" new riffs they're working on (their favourite word), and I believe they're supposed to be recording a full length album in January. If it's anything like what they've been doing live, expect great things.
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# ? Sep 2, 2011 04:57 |
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Oh and if anyone wants an album that's modern, but very much heavy/speed/power metal then look no further than the new Portrait. Most people will batter on about the King Diamond/Mercyful Fate influences, but this new album really smacks more of Iron Maiden and NWOBHM in general as well as 80s power/speed to me.
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# ? Sep 2, 2011 08:54 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Am I going to have to find the article where a classical voice coach wrote about how good Bruce Dickinson's voice was, or can we just agree that you don't appreciate voices with ridiculous range, and he doesn't actually sound like a cat being murdered? We can do that last thing. I fully expected to get poo poo on for not liking Iron Maiden and Bruce Dickinson, so whatever. Speaking of singers, I saw Diamond Head last night and their current lead singer sounds weird, but the show was still very nice. The setlist was like 85% Lightning To The Nations, which the crowd went crazy for.
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# ? Sep 2, 2011 11:47 |
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keratas posted:Still one of the most amazing songs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZUysqemMmg Goddamn, I am loving some Riot. Thanks for pointing them out.
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# ? Sep 2, 2011 16:45 |
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I dont recall seeing any discussion about the new Vader album that just came out. What do you guys think of it? I thought it was fairly average overall, probably on level with Necropolis. There are some definite stand out tracks like "I Am Who Feasts Upon Your Soul", "Come and See my Sacrifice", and the rerecording of "Decapitated Saints" is way beyond sweet. I've kinda been stuck listening to XXV for the last few months so maybe I'm just into their old songs at the moment.
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# ? Sep 2, 2011 19:08 |
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The new Azarath rules. Sadly, it is not pirate metal.
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# ? Sep 2, 2011 19:24 |
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I'm both nervous and pretty excited to hear how the Lou Reed/Metallica album "Lulu" turns out. My immediate fear was that Metallica would try to scale back and be more hard-rocky and we'd end up with another Load, but they seem really excited about it. Since it seems like they're almost embarrassed to remember their Load / Reload / St. Anger days (they pretty much never play any of those songs live), I have to hope it'll be metal. If nothing else, it's a really interesting concept. http://www.loureedmetallica.com/index.php
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# ? Sep 2, 2011 21:29 |
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Defiant Sally posted:I dont recall seeing any discussion about the new Vader album that just came out. What do you guys think of it? I guess the songs are alright but whoever produced the album can go gently caress himself. They had a completely OTT production job on Litany that sort of fits the frenetic, turbocharged nature of the songs on that disc but this and the previous album sound like they were engineered by an impotent brain surgeon. funeral fag fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Sep 2, 2011 |
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This has been a good year for metal, IMHO. The new Suidakra (Book of Dowth) and Wolfchant (Call of the Black Winds) are both great. Reminds me of why I used to really like Mellodeath/Gothenburg. Gr31lly posted:Oh and if anyone wants an album that's modern, but very much heavy/speed/power metal then look no further than the new Portrait. This reminds me of Hibria but with more Iron Maiden and less Helloween.
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# ? Sep 3, 2011 01:00 |
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Gr31lly posted:Oh and if anyone wants an album that's modern, but very much heavy/speed/power metal then look no further than the new Portrait. Played it on the train today after having a few months between listens, enjoyed it way more than I initially did. Still better than the first IMO. Vocalist was trying to be KD way too hard. Dyscrasia posted:Goddamn, I am loving some Riot. Thanks for pointing them out. You're welcome. Still one of the better bands from the USA. Album is amazing, each time I listen to it it's like the first time.
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# ? Sep 3, 2011 03:12 |
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Are there any good metal bands that sing or growl in German? It's a harsh sounding language as is, so I want to see how well it works in metal.
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# ? Sep 3, 2011 04:53 |
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BSchlang posted:Are there any good metal bands that sing or growl in German? It's a harsh sounding language as is, so I want to see how well it works in metal. There's a band called Bethlehem and it sounds creepy as gently caress. Dictius te Necare is a good place to start. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoGkDtPqtbY
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BSchlang posted:Are there any good metal bands that sing or growl in German? It's a harsh sounding language as is, so I want to see how well it works in metal. Fjoergyn is a band that does both. Also check out Der Herbst Ist Da
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