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Weaponized Cum posted:Messhuggah loving sucks though. For real. No way. I mean they're not the greatest either. They are another example of "the older is better" but even their new one has a few stand out tracks. I saw them last weekend and it was a fun as hell show. Since then I've been enjoying Koloss alot more.
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Meshuggah is one of those bands that I can listen to a few tracks from every once in a while, and listen to new albums the whole way through, but there's just something about it that doesn't sit right with me. Still think Thordendal's solos are pretty cool though.
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I used to be into really technical stuff, specifically as I was learning a lot about the technical aspects of music. It's fascinating to learn about polyrhythms, but in practice, basic percussive use of them gets really boring very quickly. The two-note polyrhythmic cycles over 4/4 are tiring, and they have one type of hook that gets very dull once you figure it out and get used to it. The one-tone vocals make it even worse. I wrote a fairly comprehensive commentary in a review of their last album. On a more positive note, Tysondog loving rules, a great NWOBHM band that didn't catch a huge break, plus they're probably only the 9th best band from Newcastle or something. One of my favorites though! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFtcOcX99Jc
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Feb 22, 2013 23:55
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:No way. Not my cup of tea. They're also directly responsible for that Djent poo poo. Unforgivable.
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I think it'd be fairer to blame Misha Mansoor for that. Or maybe Fellsilent, I guess, but they were more ahead of the curve and then turned into Tesseract and Monuments. Or maybe you could blame SikTh but if you did that I'd be real mad because that's my favorite goddamn band.
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muike posted:I think it'd be fairer to blame Misha Mansoor for that. Or maybe Fellsilent, I guess, but they were more ahead of the curve and then turned into Tesseract and Monuments. Periphery may have made it popular, but I still blame Meshuggah for starting it.
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I actually listen to them a lot when I work out. Something about the basic-ness of their songs and his somewhat monotone yelling really works for me, but mostly in that atmosphere. And yeah, I think that whole 'djent' word even came from an interview where their guitarist just used that word as an onomatopoeia to describe the type of sound and the interviewer wrote the word as 'djent'. Instead of dun dun dumm dittily dee it's djent djent weedily woop. And then a bunch of kids made a whole sub-genre centered around that. Actually just googled this and came up with How Meshuggah invented Djent, and Periphery perfected Djent. God drat I hope I never type that word again. It's so stupid. muike posted:Still think Thordendal's solos are pretty cool though. This is just about the only part that I really don't like. In some songs it's okay, but for the most part it's so off that it kind of gets on my nerves.
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I just think it's a terrible shame to have an entire fretboard to work with, but to only down tune gratuitously and stick to the open chugs.
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Zodijackylite posted:I used to be into really technical stuff, specifically as I was learning a lot about the technical aspects of music. It's fascinating to learn about polyrhythms, but in practice, basic percussive use of them gets really boring very quickly. The two-note polyrhythmic cycles over 4/4 are tiring, and they have one type of hook that gets very dull once you figure it out and get used to it. The one-tone vocals make it even worse. I wrote a fairly comprehensive commentary in a review of their last album. Meshuggah don't often use polyrhythms. from wikipedia: Polymeter is sometimes referred to as "tactus-preserving polymeter." The measure size differs, the beat is the same. Since the beat is the same, the various meters eventually agree. (Four measures of 7/4 = seven measures of 4/4). Polyrhythm is sometimes referred to as "measure preserving polymeter,". The beat varies and the measure stays constant. For example, in a 4:3 polyrhythm, one part plays 4/4 while the other plays 3/4, but the 3/4 beats are stretched so that three beats of 3/4 are played in the same time as four beats of 4/4.
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Hammer Floyd posted:I just think it's a terrible shame to have an entire fretboard to work with, but to only down tune gratuitously and stick to the open chugs. I don't see what's not to like about chugging on low F# and getting that nice distorted fart tone.
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bus stop posted:I don't see what's not to like about chugging on low F# and getting that nice distorted fart tone. F, actually I do like Meshuggah's guitar sound sometimes and they've got some pretty solid riffs but I think it's mostly Jens Kidman that I can't get along with. And some of the riffs end up sounding kinda...cheesey, I guess.
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muike posted:F, actually No way, Meshuggah is loving serious and not cheesy in any way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_tSyJBsRQ (the best Meshuggah video)
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:No way, Meshuggah is loving serious and not cheesy in any way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QQls3ctMJ8 If Meshuggah covered their own songs as campfire songs they would rocket to the top of my lists.
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NTT posted:My mind is blown that there is literally nowhere to buy a digital download of Beyond Creations "The Aura". They just signed to Season of Mist in the past couple days, so "The Aura" is going to be re-released with a bonus track...wait a couple months!
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muike posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QQls3ctMJ8 One comment says that it's Tomas Haake singing that(???)
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Well, that's neat. I hadn't heard of Megiddo.
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http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/extwidget/openGraph/wid/0_fute2uoe Lars "designed" a new Vans shoe. It's pretty funny when he shows the shoe and says "well, I pretty much designed the whole thing myself", since the loving shoe pretty much looks like any other loving Vans shoe. Just Ffw to 2:05 EDIT: As if I needed more reasons to love Iron Maiden, here's what they did in 1986 when they had to do a lipsync at a German TV Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzqGQkLMo9o Redrum and Coke fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Feb 23, 2013 |
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To the kind soul who mentioned Ne Obliviscaris earlier in this thread: Thank you, goon sir. I picked up Portal of I by those guys and it is pretty much everything I want in a metal album (including unexpected violin shredding).
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my only problem with it is that all the songs from their demo are included so I had already listened to half of it a billion times (not a real problem)
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Martout posted:They are very much either/or, I have yet to meet a metalhead who is on the fence about them. I thought they were poo poo for the longest time but after years of being subjected to them by friends who love them I've switched sides. Stockholm Syndrome? Hard to tell. They were a pretty good prog-thrash band who for some reason wrote one song then decided to keep rewriting it over and over again for the next couple decades.
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So, Master is doing a US Tour. NORTH AMERICAN DETONATION TOUR MASTER - SACRIFICIAL SLAUGHTER - FISTHAMMER Fri. March 1st - Los Angeles, CA @ The Joint Sat.March 2nd - Oakland, CA @ Oakland Metro Sun.March 3rd - Portland, OR @ The Branx Mon.March 4th - Seattle, WA @ 2 Bit Saloon Tue. March 5th - Boise, ID @ The Shredder Wed.March 6th - Salt Lake City, UT @ The Complex Thu. March 7th - Cheyenne, WY @ Forum 619 Fri. March 8th - Topeka, KS @ The Boobie Trap Sat.March 9th - St. Louis, MO @ Fubar Sun.March 10th - Madison, WI @ The Frequency Mon.March 11th - Chicago, IL @ Reggie's Rock Club Tue. March 12th - Warren, MI @ The Ritz Wed. March 13th - Rochester, NY @ Bug Jar Thu. March 14th - Providence, RI @ Firehouse 13 Fri. March 15th - Brooklyn, NY @ Saint Vitus Bar Sat. March 16th - Philadelphia, PA @ Gunners Run Sun. March 17th - Baltimore, MD @ Ottobar Mon. March 18th - Asheville, NC @ Static Age Records Tue. March 19th - Dothan, AL @ Herman's Billiards Wed.March 20th - New Orleans, LA @ Siberia Thu. March 21st - Fort Worth, TX @ Tomcats West Fri. March 22nd - Oklahoma City, OK @ Chameleon Room Sat. March 23rd - Houston, TX @ BFE Rock Club Sun. March 24th - Austin, TX @ Beerland Mon. March 25th - San Antonio, TX @ Zombies Tue. March 26th - Midland, TX @ Pine Box Wed.March 27th - Albuquerque, NM @ Launchpad Thu. March 28th - Tucson, AZ @ The Rock Fri. March 29th - Mexicali, MX @ Bar El Andariego Sat. March 30th - Pomona, CA @ Characters Sports bar Sun. March 31st - Oceanside, CA @ The Royal Dive * Mon.April 1st - Long Beach, CA @ Alex's Bar * I'm super stoked to be moving to the DC area, because EVERYTHING goes through DC/Richmond/Baltimore. BUT this show is the day before I get there. Bummer.
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This is by Ukranian metal band "Firelake." And yes, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. so shush. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Hqqh3CwXU The thing is, I want something that sounds more mellow, much less metallic like this than their typical death metal. (Already have death sound covered) Any recommendations? Any language, but German, Russkie/Ukranian preferred.
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Actually just googled this and came up with How Meshuggah invented Djent, and Periphery perfected Djent. I've been listening to metal since I was a kid and followed all sorts of subgenres throughout the years, and Djent is the first time I can't tell how a sound supposedly separates itself from all other metal. I understand the technique, and some of it sounds quite good. What I don't understand is how it's a subgenre or how anyone pioneered or invented it. It's like calling palm muting a genre, or use of arpeggios. You can attribute whatever technique you want to Eddie Van Halen, but that doesn't make Eddie Van Halen a genre. It's not even a new technique either; industrial metal has been doing the downtuned staccato chugging sound since forever, albeit mainly with sequencers rather than guitar technique. I guess I could accept that as a definition: Playing like it's industrial metal without machines doing the chugging.
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It's just shorthand for "sounds like Meshuggah".
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Such is the life in the Zone. Bloodsuckers and horrible nu-metal
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You discover artifact "KoЯn album."
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Achievement Unlocked: JNCO Wardrobe Collection
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This song is exceptional, an epic in its own right without overdoing anything. Manilla Road are awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EAR5-cQOL0
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Meshuggah is definitely a band you cannot be on the fence about, that's for sure. I've been listening to them since Chaosphere and every record has at least a few really solid tracks, but they can be straight up weird sometimes, no denying that. Also, loving the Epic/Heavy Metal recommendations. Keep them coming 
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I like one Meshuggah song, and that's "Combustion" off of Obzen. I don't know why they persist in churning out the same chugga-chugga stuff when they're capable of writing a total ripper like that track.
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Zodijackylite posted:This song is exceptional, an epic in its own right without overdoing anything. Manilla Road are awesome. I just started to get into their later albums and I was surprised how much they are like their 80s albums (in quality and production). It is like Mark Shelton simply went into a coma during the 90s, woke up, and started writing records again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97yvlTOrgfQ
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Juaguocio posted:I like one Meshuggah song, and that's "Combustion" off of Obzen. I don't know why they persist in churning out the same chugga-chugga stuff when they're capable of writing a total ripper like that track. Meshuggah sounds like a band who could benefit from doing some sort of side project! I'm sure they're all talented as hell, but I imagine that if they risk departing from their chuggy djent music they'd end up being accused of selling out, which could result in angry fans and a dissatisfied distro. Get them to make some thrashy, raw songs and I bet you'd have some fun poo poo!
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I know of one that does exist, (Fredrik's) Special Defects. Still a lot of Meshuggah in it, but with a lot of jazzy elements thrown in. Still has a lot of the problems Meshuggah does but it's a little easier to digest plus I like the vocals a lot better, being all gremlin-style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6kXLkJA6g0
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Djent isn't a real genre.
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DeusExMachinima posted:Djent isn't a real genre. Whether you believe it or not, it's become one, even if it's in name alone. Edit: Point below makes more sense. It does seem like it's certainly a thing, but maybe not a genre in and unto itself. I've seen a lot of "Slamming" Death Metal tags around lately and I would attribute it to something like that as well. thehouseplant fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Feb 25, 2013 |
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I don't think djent is a genre, just a movement in prog metal. To me calling it a genre is like calling Swedish-style death metal a different genre from American-style. Most of it is redundant, same-y crap but I do like a few bands (Cloudkicker, Animals as Leaders, Periphery). I know it's not the metal thread's type of jam and I'm fine with that, sometimes I just need something super hi-fi and modern with rubbery riffs. Speaking of which, I saw Meshuggah last night and they completely killed it. One of the tightest live outfits I've ever seen. They all play to a click so they don't even count in their songs, they just start with no warning. It's awesome.
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