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het posted:I don't think an album has to be good or even original to be influential. I agree with you and because of that I have to reluctantly admit that Korn's first record should be on that list then. Ugh.
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Stoat posted:If you don't think Images and Words in influential I don't know what to tell you. It's not the best progressive metal album ever, that's not what the list is about, but there will be legit 100s of metal bands who cite it as an influence. It really was definitive for it's time. I concede that it's an important album and that I'm probably pretty ignorant about the prog side of metal (which you all can tell I'm sure) but I am curious which metal bands, both distant and recent, view it as an influence? And Adrenaline Mob may blow but at least they don't do any 2 minute song piano soft ballads!
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The list really could use Manowar's Battle Hymns. Pioneering American power metal. Not sure I'd put Ride the Lightning over Kill Em All too. Edit - Yeh and I'd put Bathory or possibly Hellhammer/Celtic Frost over Venom. If it was a top 15 I'd like to see Hammerheart or Blood Fire Death on there too. AgentJotun fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Mar 21, 2013 |
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Happy Hippo posted:I agree with you and because of that I have to reluctantly admit that Korn's first record should be on that list then. So should the first Van Halen album.
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watt par posted:So should the first Van Halen album. Also Guns n Roses right? I mean, if up against King Diamond they're the obvious choice. (From 2 pages back)
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Meshuggah don't belong on the list. There's a bunch of djent wankers who won't shut up about it on the internet, but even the most prominent of those bands are still opening for bands like BTBAM. Take Meshuggah off the list and put Judas Priest in the top five, perhaps Killing Machine/HBFL is the album that best exemplifies their influence, though you can hear the influence of Sad Wings on pretty much every NWOBHM band. I'd replace Venom with Bathory - UTSOTBM has a sound like most black metal, you can really hear a similarity between that and most black metal. I'd say it's the sonic template of the style as much as one album can be pointed to. Images and Words inspired countless softie prog metal bands that wanted to sound like Dream Theater, while I'd rather point to Fates Warning (TSW/ATG) as the most influential prog album, Dream Theater took that and sucked all the power out of it to make the foundation of general "progressive metal". I think they're writing for their audience though, if they didn't put Meshuggah there, they'd have tons of complains from chugga chugga kids that their favorite technical nu-metal band is missing and they invented a form of music where guitarists don't even have to move beyond wanking in their bedroom.
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All this talk of prog metal has my interest piqued. What are some good starter albums?
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ScarletBrother posted:All this talk of prog metal has my interest piqued. What are some good starter albums? Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy
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ScarletBrother posted:All this talk of prog metal has my interest piqued. What are some good starter albums? I'm assuming that you're asking about Dream Theater type poo poo but in case you're not heres my favorite prog-death album of all time. This might be my favorite album of all time, actually. Edge of Sanity - Crimson II https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScLDqcb0IpQ
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ScarletBrother posted:All this talk of prog metal has my interest piqued. What are some good starter albums? Fates Warning's "The Spectre Within" and "Awaken the Guardian". Emphasis on the metal more than the prog.
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Vector loving own too. Black Future is a little bit better than Outer Isolation in my opinion but that may be from listening to Outer Isolation almost nonstop for a while.
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ScarletBrother posted:All this talk of prog metal has my interest piqued. What are some good starter albums? In addition to Fates Warning: Dark Quarterer - S/T https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cb5mWQwB9U Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAI2QOBMlTA Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdGD3Ukb3Q0 Crimson Glory - S/T https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZDE1rWyoe8
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ScarletBrother posted:All this talk of prog metal has my interest piqued. What are some good starter albums? Arch/Matheos - Sympathetic Resonance. This is the original singer of Fates Warning back with a bunch of past and present FW members for a new project. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwcL04CYews Pain of Salvation - Entropia, Remedy Lane. Their last couple of albums have been more of a retro 70's rock thing, but check out their earlier material. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27dgfyiyMMI Aghora - Formless. Progressive metal from Miami with female vocals and just a touch of jazz-fusion. They used to have the two Seans from Cynic and Death in their rhythm section, and Sean Reinart is on about half of their second album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at_zCqifAoo OSI - OSI, Fire Make Thunder. They seem to mix prog metal and alt-rock in an interesting way. Jim of Fates Warning, Kevin Moore (ex-Dream Theater), and either Mike Portnoy or Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree on drums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qd8-v4VWVc And for some bands more in the Dream Theater mold, but not necessarily clones, check out Andromeda, Thought Chamber, Dominici (but only the second and third album), Time Machine, Odd Dimension, and Threshold.
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Though they're not really full-on 'metal', you should check out Änglagård if you're investigating prog. Impressive stuff, and they only had an album, an EP, and a live album, so it's not a huge undertaking. Wait, they also have a new line-up and a new album that came out last year, so that's (probably) excellent news, considering the 15-year gap.
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New video from Kvelertak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf98NT3f1Ys loving love it, can't wait to listen to the whole album.
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euroboy posted:New video from Kvelertak http://stereogum.com/1290242/stream-kvelertak-meir-stereogum-premiere/album-stream/ It's really really good
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ScarletBrother posted:All this talk of prog metal has my interest piqued. What are some good starter albums? Dream Theater - Images & Words I mean top 10 lists are loving retarded but this is the finest prog metal album ever made and influenced countless bands for a good reason. Also check out anything they did up to/including Train of Thought.
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Cheapsteaks posted:I concede that it's an important album and that I'm probably pretty ignorant about the prog side of metal (which you all can tell I'm sure) but I am curious which metal bands, both distant and recent, view it as an influence? I don't have the time off the top of my head to go hunting for the mentions, but I know Opeth cited them as a DT fan.
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:Dream Theater - Images & Words Fixed it for you. Train Of Thought has got so much blatant Metallica worship. Dream Theater are a group of nerds, they shouldn't try to be tough burly metalheads as they tried on ToT.
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Hammer Floyd posted:Fixed it for you. They said 'gently caress' in the opening track.
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Hammer Floyd posted:Fixed it for you. A Dramatic Turn of Events is really a return to form though. CmdrSmirnoff posted:Dream Theater - Images & Words No that would be Scenes From a Memory.
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Scenes From a Memory is one of my all-time favorite albums, but I think Images & Words was probably more influential as far as nerdy prog metal goes.
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nerve posted:http://stereogum.com/1290242/stream-kvelertak-meir-stereogum-premiere/album-stream/ It's on Spotify now as well. http://open.spotify.com/album/1147s32sIAabDpmBeBf2bN
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euroboy posted:It's on Spotify now as well. http://open.spotify.com/album/1147s32sIAabDpmBeBf2bN Only Braune Brenn - the rest of the album isn't available yet (at least in the US).
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Some new Ghost songs played live. I will be seeing them in London this Sunday and am really looking forward to it. Looks and sounds so spooky and atmospheric (I'm a sucker for theatrics). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rc_Tj0WKxE
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Is anyone other than me closely following news from the latest release The Meads of Asphodel will be putting out this year? All of the reviews I've read so far seem to indicate that this will most likely be a loving masterpiece like The Murder of Jesus the Jew. I'm hyped to the max 
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Has anyone here had any experience ordering from Southern Lord? I ordered a few shirts from them a couple weeks ago and they haven't gotten to me or emailed me any kind of shipping information/confirmation. Is this standard from them?
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JamesWestfall posted:Has anyone here had any experience ordering from Southern Lord? I ordered a few shirts from them a couple weeks ago and they haven't gotten to me or emailed me any kind of shipping information/confirmation. Is this standard from them? That's pretty standard.
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All the prog metal hate  Besides Images and Words, there are a few other albums that I have found to be great representatives of prog. Symphony X - V Pagan's Mind - Enigmatic Calling Blind Guardian - At the Edge of Time Myrath - Desert Call Seventh Wonder - Mercy Falls If you end up liking Images and Words, I would definitely give these all a listen.
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I assume there's at least one or two Fates Warning fans in here somewhere? FATES WARNING tour dates Nov. 15--Joliet, IL--Mojoe's Nov. 16--Detroit, MI--Harpos Nov. 17--Louisville, KY--Diamond Pub & Billiards Nov. 18--Cleveland, OH--Peabody's Nov. 20--Toronto, ONT--Mod Club Nov. 21--Poughkeepsie, NY--The Chance Nov. 22--Hartford, CT--Webster Theater Nov. 23--New York, NY--The Studio @ Webster Hall Nov. 24--Clifton, NJ--Dingbatz Nov. 26--Amityville, NY--Revolution Nov. 27--Lancaster, PA--Chameleon Club Nov. 30--Spartanburg, SC--Ground Zero Dec. 1--Atlanta, GA--Masquerade Dec. 3--Houston, TX--Scout Bar Dec. 4--San Antonio, TX--Backstage Live Dec. 5--Dallas, TX--Trees Dec. 7--Phoenix, AZ--Rocky Point Cantina Dec. 8--San Diego, CA--Brick By Brick Dec. 10--Los Angeles, CA--The Whisky Dec. 11--San Francisco, CA--DNA Lounge Dec. 13--Portland, OR--Hawthorne Theater Dec. 14--Seatlle, WA--Studio Seven
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thepitgoddess posted:I assume there's at least one or two Fates Warning fans in here somewhere? Awesome, a CT hometown show and perhaps a valid excuse to go to the void known as Poughkeepsie. Any idea about openers?
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The steam of the new Wormed is making me pretty happy. http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/03/22/exclusive-full-album-stream-wormed-exodromos/
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JamesWestfall posted:Has anyone here had any experience ordering from Southern Lord? I ordered a few shirts from them a couple weeks ago and they haven't gotten to me or emailed me any kind of shipping information/confirmation. Is this standard from them? Yeah. You'll get your stuff. Sit tight.
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Party of me digs Tengger Cavalry, and part of me pictures Kermit the frog bellydancing when the throat singing fires up.
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Incantation kicks so much rear end live. Go loving see them.
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Incantation kicks so much rear end in studio. Go loving listen to them.
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thepitgoddess posted:I assume there's at least one or two Fates Warning fans in here somewhere?
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het posted:Man, nowhere closer to DC than Lancaster? That's ridiculous I figure a lot of commuters can't make it to weeknight shows, so a lot of bands/organizers think DC sucks and just pass it over. At least we're moving into a good season for awesome shows.
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Sweet, Sat night show in SC. I'll be there Also, in other news, Hells Headbangers has an infomercial out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogC54-Q7XeA I thought it was pretty funny. Haggins fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Mar 23, 2013 |
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ChickenArise posted:I figure a lot of commuters can't make it to weeknight shows, so a lot of bands/organizers think DC sucks and just pass it over. At least we're moving into a good season for awesome shows. But the horrible DC traffic makes it so you just miss the crummy opening bands, it's perfect! Durendal posted:All the prog metal hate Wasn't Myrath just straight up Symphony X worship?
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