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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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high adventure, no shitposters

Hiram posted:

Not that I'm not excited but....what the hell happened? :psyduck:
Regal's been working as a commentator down in FCW so my assumption is that the two of them have some sort of angle going on down there. I don't know for sure and can't find FCW taping results anywhere so I'm just guessing.

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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Gonzo McFee posted:

Hey his family suffered during the Trail Of Tears. The His Great Great Great Grandfather got hella saddle sore forcing those Indians to march all that way.
Oklahoma was the endpoint of the Trail of Tears, it was where they dumped all the Indians out of the east coast, so Oklahomans during the Trail of Tears were the victims, since there basically weren't white people in OK at the time.

He also mentioned something on the Austin podcast I was listening to earlier today about how his family had been in Oklahoma since they were handing out lands to Indians, so I assume he's got at least some Native American in him. Unless yes, har har, they whipped Injuns in a racist style.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Memento posted:

Exactly. When you're no longer working with someone, cool-guy wrestling trash talk becomes threatening a home invasion.
And yet practically no one has spoken out against the very real trail of rape and spine-shattering carnage the Iron Sheik has left worldwide after his non-work tweets.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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sportsgenius86 posted:

I would care less if Colt wasn't the first person to cry about poo poo that happens to him.

Somebody uses a 30 second clip of Wrestling Road Diaries and he loving alerts Homeland Security but making fun of dead kids is kosher I guess
I don't even understand the analogy here. He's anti-piracy, but pro-joking? How can Ric Flair be sad about his kid overdoing on drugs when he cheats on his wives? I guess that's kosher!

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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sportsgenius86 posted:

I mean he's the first person to cry about trivial poo poo that affects him personally but he has no stake in Reid Flair so he doesn't give a gently caress.
It was a tasteless joke, but "crying about trivial poo poo" (fighting piracy on an independently produced product of his) doesn't really relate at all to whether or not he's okay with edgy jokes.

I'm not even defending the joke, I just don't see what you disliking his anti-piracy poo poo has to do with anything at all. It's like going "oh Austin supports gay marriage? HE WOULDN'T EVEN loving PUT OVER JEFF JARRETT"

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Alex Riley will be remembered, if he is remembered at all, as a less successful version of Virgil.

AJ Lee will be remembered for a bunch of wrestling fans flipping out at her Twitter claiming she enjoyed video games and comic books because she is probably just pandering and girls don't like those things, come on.

Also hello, I am a time traveler from four years ago. The Alex Riley thing will be true forever though.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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HulkaMatt posted:

tell me he didn't just say that
He didn't just say that? Even if he did really say that, it was from June 2012?

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Gavok posted:

He was better when he jumped ship to Fox and they repackaged him with the propane gimmick.
MTV told him he was a midcarder who hasn't done poo poo and released him via Fed Ex while pushing Daria, but later Fox made him a cornerstone of their Animation Attitude era.

Now someone rework Scott Keith's "retire now, you fat redneck piece of poo poo" Undertaker rant to apply to Bill.

Also in this scenario Boomhauer is the either Ultimate Warrior or Ahmed Johnson.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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If you wanted to, you could totally trademark James Gang as a wrestling brand/stable. There are live trademarks out there for "James Gang" as the name of a printer in California and a line of barbecue/salsa condiments. I don't see one regarding wrestling, but at the same time trademarks really only forbid you from using those terms on advertisements specifically for wrestling products. No idea if Twitter counts, or if there's even been precedence set for that.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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HMWFOAT:

-The kid who looks so disappointed in CM Punk coming out dressed up as Jeff Hardy
-The latino guy in his 50s or 60s who kept standing up on his chair for a Chavo Guerrero dark match at a Smackdown taping ca. 2002 and ululating and then screaming CHAVO DEL OCHO, CHAVO DEL OCHO, AYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY CHAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEL OCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in a high pitched voice for the duration of the Guerrero match, then sat down and calmly and quietly watched the next two and a half hours of taping.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Also isn't that like a bigger body of evidence of bigotry than pretty much anything ever confirmed about Dusty Rhodes? I feel like the only actual stories I've ever seen sourced about what a bad guy Dusty were:

a) He insisted in the 1970s he could be a promoter's "black world champion" (which is completely self-serving and self-promotional and quite possibly delusional, but at its base involves Dusty wanting to be the world champion and thinking he can connect with black audiences, which isn't really racist in the way people seem to assume he was)
b) The story Colt Cabana told about "a trainer" calling him Kike Cabana which I don't think he ever identified who it was, but I remember a lot of people asserting it was Rhodes. Did that ever get confirmed one way or the other?

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Marquis de Pyro posted:

People overreact because there are a lot of people in this country that honestly believe no one should be allowed to say things that they don't agree with anymore. Having your feelings hurt by words isn't an "attack" it's just something that happens to every human being.
A lot of people in this forum seem to think that saying "that person said something that deliberate or not was kind of lovely" is the same thing as wanting to cut out the person's tongue or some poo poo.

If people point out Dixie Carter is bad at e-mail, the backlash shouldn't be "JESUS CHRIST YOU DON'T THINK SHE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE COMPUTERS ANYMORE YOU COMPUTER POLICE. NEXT YOU'LL WANT TO BAN ALL COMPUTERS"

If people blame Ryback for injuring people the backlash shouldn't be "OH MY GOD I GUESS YOU WANT TO BAN WRESTLING IS THAT IT? DO YOU NEED SOME SORT OF FEELINGS POLICE TO MAKE SURE NO ONE CAN GET HURT?"

But when you suggest that maybe a wrestler or podcaster should choose their words more carefully, it is essentially an attack on free speech.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Perfidus posted:

I still get my news from there, like I have since 1998. I'm sure there is something better but I can never find it.
Is Mr. Tito still doing his PHAT Daily Column?

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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oldpainless posted:

The only time people should say verse is when they're reciting a bible verse imo.
What if these people never buyed no Bible so they goed to the liberry and the Bible was tooken out and they said "THIS VARY RUDE FOR YOUSE TO MAKE FUN OF WHAT IS OBVIOUSLY A REGIONAL DIALECT"

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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All joking a salad, Cialis get lots of blood to specific types of muscles (specifically your lungs and penis) but there is a lot of (probably dubious) belief in the bodybuilding/gym world that taking it will just get more blood to your muscles in general and make you look extra vascular. Which is probably why

a) Morrison had it
b) Ryback wanted to take it to impress Brock Lesnar

The mystery is how it's some sort of dubious medical 'science' and Daniel Bryan didn't know about it.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Sanguinia posted:

Yes, right now Lucha Underground is not a success as a business, but that doesn't mean it won't be and we should loving hope that it eventually is because it's trying something different. Why would anyone take joy at an attempt at innovation within its genre crashing and burning when alternatives to a single monolithic success are what at least some people want? I don't know about you, but I'm as tired of WWE Clones in Wrestling as I am of WOW Clones in MMOs.
There's a difference between "I like this low-selling/low-viewed [program/promotion/game/book/comic], I wish more people were into it" and "this cult thing I like is awesome and the industry needs to emulate it!" and there's a decent amount of the latter on here. The post he was responding to was about how Cornette hates Lucha Underground, but just imagine his face when he sees the ratings!" which you know, are objectively low.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Alex Riley: signed with the company in October 2007. Still not prime time material.

Other people who wrestled on Riley's debut show: Heath Slater, Fandango, Brie Bella, Kofi Kingston, Sheamus, Alicia Fox, Tyson Kidd, Jack Swagger, Dolph Ziggler (also Ezekiel Jackson, Chet the Jett, Hade Vansen, Kizarny, and Justin Gabriel) I would kind of be bitter too if you've been around as long as those people and you've accomplished so little.

Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Mar 31, 2016

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Alex Riley is like if some low level featured player on SNL complained constantly that he only got four lines last week but these rookie jabronis like Jennifer Lawrence and Adam Driver get to waltz in and HOST without paying their dues, where the gently caress were they during Maude Night in 2010???

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Here's Chris Jericho's 'troll' of people who didn't like his match.

quote:

I am now finished with the internet and I'm finished with this site because I hate what you marks are doing. You've spoiled it for me. Your negativity is ridiculous. You all come off like a bunch of bitter know-it alls, who won't be happy with anything we give you. Nothing is ever good enough and quite frankly I'm over it. You are the same people that are saying that Attack of the Clones is boring, analyzing every little detail, instead of allowing yourselves to be entertained by it's magic.

It seems that some of you wish the wrestling business would dry up and die, because some of you dislike EVERYTHING we do. Is it always good? No, but we are killing ourselves to try and entertain you and if you don't respect that, then kiss my rear end. I want the business to be around forever and I am doing my part to keep it great and I did that tonight, no matter what any of you think.

Alot of the boys pander to you on their websites, asking for your input and your thoughts and I used to be one of them. Guess what? I'm not anymore. Think what you want. I don't care. Do what you want. I don't care. Respond how you want too as well, because I won't be reading. I don't give a drat about what you think anymore...
Meltzer rated the match *** 3/4 for what it's worth, Alvarez gave it *** 1/2. Even Scott Keith gave it *** and I don't remember it being that bad or the Internet being that negative about it.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Yeah, if anything it was probably Jericho acting out on misplaced aggression. For context this was June 2002, and he'd spent the last year:

1) Getting a main event push for the first time in the Benoit/Jericho vs. Austin/HHH feud
2) Having that get derailed by HHH's injury but landing in a feud with the Rock for the WCW title
3) Spinning out of that to be the First Undisputed World Champion/beating Rock & Austin in the same night

And then...
4) Being the proxy for HHH's feud against Stephanie and her pet dog, a feud where it was clear that HHH wasn't getting over as a face.
5) Killing himself in a Hell in a Cell match to try to get HHH over as a face champion
6) Getting bumped to a prelim match so Hulk Hogan and Bikertaker could be in the main events, possibly knowing the plan for Summerslam was HHH turning heel after he spent months jobbing to him, Lesnar getting a rocket strapped to him, and Jericho doing ???

Jericho has talked a lot about how tenuous he felt his job at WWE was for years, and how the Kliq didn't really like him, etc. You'd think he'd be over that by 2002 but there's no question he was hurt by how he was handled around WM18 and the idea that he was getting pushed back down the card probably hurt, and then if he read some negative reviews on the Internet (who were the people stanning for him through all of the hassles he went through in WCW/WWF) it probably extra-sucked after what was presumably a bad week at work. Also remember we know now that Jericho drinks a lot so maybe in 2016 he'd have claimed he was 'hacked' after that.

Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 05:27 on May 30, 2016

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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let's say, hypothetically that rovert is a doctor -- I know he isn't a doctor, or at least I don't think he is, I'd have to check, but let's say he is -- who is really bad at his job and keeps trying to take the pulse of y'know, patients who are coming in and his finger isn't anywhere near their wrist, or neck, or the back of the knee or wherever he'd be taking pulses. The point is that his finger isn't even frickin close to any of those places. Now, if you're a doctor the mentality is that you're trying to help people, but rovert can't even take anyone's pulse, which is really bad if you're a doctor. So he thinks everyone is dead.

But they're also talking and explaining their symptoms to him, so how does it look when you're a doctor, and your patients all seem dead to you, but they keep talking. You'd probably die.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Say what you will, but their booking of Particle Man wasn't plagued by 50/50 booking at least.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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C. Everett Koop posted:

None hold a candle to Big Boi and Andre Three Stacks.

Gipp, a 2002 hobo



Dungeon Fam 4 Life


(this is pretty similar to the album cover actually)

Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Dec 7, 2016

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Baron Corbyn posted:

Was it JR who had to show Vince that porn sites had Asian as a subcategory to convince him that people would find Gail Kim attractive?
It is, and somehow he caught flak for using porn sites to "prove" to Vince McMahon that people found Asian women attractive, because it was fetishizing and commodifying the sexuality of Asian women rather than treating them as equal competitors and he issued an official apology for relating the truthful story of how Vince McMahon was reluctant to hire Gail Kim until it was empirically proven to him that there are people out there that would jerk off to her hypothetical future Playboy shoot. Good Ol' JR has his share of issues but that particularly story always struck me as making Asian porn site chicken salad out of his boss's chicken poo poo mind.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Titus would be an even greater hero and dad of the year if it's revealed he's been traveling the nation, absorbing children's cancerous cells and transforming them into awkward in-ring movement.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Joey Styles > JBL > Eddie Guerrero > Brock Lesnar > Mark Hunt > Stefan Struve > Stipe Miocic

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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There's a Mince VcMahon down the list towards the bottom.

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May 20, 2001

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The text of this video (posted back in June, retweeted by Angel Amoroso last week) is as follows:

THIS IS ECW PRO WRESTLER VIRGIN PRINCESS ANGEL AMOROSO
AS A 12 YEAR OLD CHILD ANGEL WAS KNOWN AS A PRO WRESTLING GROUPIE
ANGEL, FROM PHILADELPHIA, WOULD TRAVEL TO WRESTLING EVENTS ACROSS THE EAST COAST EVERY WEEKEND.
IN 1988 AT AGE 12 ANGEL BEGAN "DATING" PAUL HEYMAN
IN 1994, PAUL HEYMAN INADVERTANTLY EXPOSED THAT HE AND OTHER, FAMOUS PRO WRESTLERS HAD SEXUALLY ABUSED ANGEL AS A CHILD
[cue an ECW promo where Paul Heyman calls her a groupie and a slut while running down Shane Douglas, who I guess she was managing?]
[montage of a combination of photos of Angel with a wrestler and just like WWF promo images]
SEXUALLY ABUSED ANGEL AS A CHILD
I don't recognize everyone, but it includes Mike Awesome, Road Dogg, Kevin Von Erich, Jerry Lawler, Brian Pillman, Mike Enos, Ultimate Warrior, Dave Meltzer, Ed Leslie, Marty Jannetty, Sid Vicious, Tully Blanchard, Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Mick Foley, Paul Heyman

Anyway she also has a public Facebook page where she posts a lot of thing, the videos that keep getting taken down (from what I can gather from her page) are her uploading full ECW matches where she was a valet with like FOURTEEN YEAR OLD ANGEL AMOROSO WAS RAPED BY THE MAN IN THIS VIDEO.

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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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MassRafTer posted:

It's a weird situation where the totality of the claims make it seem too ridiculous to be true and things obviously don't add up. But that time period in that area with that crew and the amount of access she had, it's completely naive to write it off completely. It's just individual claims are impossible to figure out, what's real, what's invented and why was it invented given her history.
Agreed, but one of the biggest sticking points (unless I'm missing something) is her age. If she was 12 in 1988, she was born in 1975-1976, and would have been 14-15 when she started appearing as a wrestling valet, and 17(?) when she started appearing on ECW tapes. If she was born in 1969, she would have been 19 when she started 'dating' wrestlers, 21 for her first valet appearance, and in her mid-20s for the ECW shows.

Also Mick Foley and Paul Heyman were both born in 1965, and would have been in their mid 20s for the period she's talking about. I don't doubt some pretty gross poo poo happened in/around the ECW locker room, but a couple of guys in their twenties hooking up with an adult four years younger than them is significantly less gross (and criminal) than them doing the same with a minor a full decade younger.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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My favorite thing about that article is the list of things Big Dave got WRONG (no links) whereas the very smart and handsome boys at the Dirty Sheets got it RIGHT IMMEDIATELY (no links).

It's like when I said back in 2001 that Roman Reigns was always planned to be the breakaway star in the SHIELD but some fans may resist it, unlike that stupid piece of poo poo Meltzer who wasted all his time reporting on Above Average Mike Sanders's contract status, which is a joke because we've all seen how Mike Sanders never existed.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Bryan and Vinny (and generally every wrestling podcaster who isn't Konnan or somehow, Craig) being baffled at really common hip hop/urban terminology is a constant source of joy for me, so thanks thread for extending that out further.

I'll be sure to boof a few eggs in your honor tomorrow.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Davros1 posted:

Disco was WON's best gimmick one year
Yeah, but it was 1995 and look at the competition:

code:
1995 WO Awards

EST GIMMICK 
1. Disco Inferno (69) 
2. Raven (59) 
3. Undertaker (35) 
4. Goldust (31) 
5. El Santo Negro (27) 
6. Mikey Whipwreck (26) 
7. Stevie Richards (25)
7. Public Enemy (25) 
9. Bill Alfonso (24) 
10. Dudleys (20) 
Honorable Mention: Waylon Mercy 18, La Parka 17, Bubba Ray Dudley 17, Bodydonnas 14, Super Delfin 13, Super Heel Devil Masami 13, Bob Backlund 12, Jushin Liger 12, Sandman 10, Shooter Dean Malenko 9 

WORST GIMMICK 
1. Goldust (119) 
2. Dungeon of Doom (103) 
3. Yeti (60) 
4. Renegade (33) 
5. Zodiac (32) 
6. Shark (21) 
6. Dave Sullivan (21) 
8. Isaac Yankem (18) 
9. Disco Inferno (15) 
10. Bertha Faye (13)
Honorable Mention: Henry Godwinn 9, Avatar 9, Kama 8 

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Also isn't the "best case scenario" for Enzo (meaning Enzo's version of events) "look I am definitely not a rapist, I am simply a man who enjoys being unfaithful with teenage girls with whom I do a bunch of drugs with and gently caress in hotel rooms while white internet rappers probably watch but believe you me, it was CONSENTUAL" which I mean might get him over with Jim Cornette and THE BOYS circa 1983 but might not be something WWE really wants publicized regardless of consent.

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https://twitter.com/JurassickParker/status/998747723099754496

Big Dave challenged this guy to find any evidence of him (Meltzer) ever claiming that Mabel was going to be the Third Man and then swiftly deleted the tweet.

So...

1) Where is this guy getting the idea from?
2) Did Dave actually say this at some point??
3) Why Wasn't Big Vis the Third Man???

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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Meltzer did say in reports that he had heard people in WCW discussing that it might be Crush, or Mabel, or Lex Luger, or Ultimate Warrior (but probably not due to contract issues), or Bret Hart (but definitely not because of contract issues), but it's probably Hogan.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

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He was the young boy in a tag team with Backlund and Fujinami earlier this month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjVIEpJg6gE

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May 20, 2001

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Best thing about that is Rhyno and Slater wearing the free Tapout merch even on their days off.

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May 20, 2001

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I would have gladly accepted those Soros Bucks, and WWE I'm just saying here on these forums, which you definitely read, I will accept your dirty money as well. Make a Ro-liever out of me!

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May 20, 2001

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My favorite part of that MYC rundown is that he gives detailed rundowns of like the first 18 competitors, their training history, their background, who they've trained with, where they've wrestled, their wrestling style, etc. etc. and then they hit Vanessa Craven:

"Well, she's tall."
"Is that it?"
"I think she's from Ontario?"

Way to bury [one of the 32] women in the MYC, DAVE.

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