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SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



If anyone wanted a Beretta 92G, Summit Gun Broker got in a few. $395 with original box, $375 without, and includes 2 15rd mags.

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SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Action-Bastard posted:

Bare with me I'm stupid,

I've been wanting a 92FS or an M9 for as long as I could remember but could never quite justify the expense. After a little research it seems that the 92G is virtually the same besides the lack of safety and the de-cocker. Am I correct in this assumption or is it much more than that?

Yeah, it's a Beretta 92 that is decocker-only, no manual safety, still DA/SA, though the gun doesn't automatically decock on first round chambering like the 92FS, so you get an SA pull on the first shot. At least that's what I heard from HappyCapybaraFamily, who has shot the 92FS and has a 92G now.

edit: gently caress your destiny thermobollocks :argh:

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



thermobollocks posted:

The FS doesn't decock if you chamber a round with the safety off.

infrared35 posted:

A 92FS only decocks when you chamber a round if you chamber a round with the safety on. :colbert:

Then either HappyCappy was lying to me, or he had a really broken range gun.

I didn't think the 92FS I shot decocked on first round chambering, but I was really a newbie when I did and wasn't paying any attention. :sweatdrop:

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Butch Cassidy posted:



Hey I know it's the ducats and centuries thread, but holy gently caress I want a Whitney. I hate that Olympic Arms is the only maker now. :(

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Maybe now's the time to replace your extractor spring? Or get your chamber really cleaned out and polished if that's not a horrible thing to do to a 92.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



HappyCapybaraFamily posted:

This is two FTEs in 41 rounds, and this is after three FTEs in 100 rounds of TulAmmo previously. Five of the same kind of failure in fewer than 150 rounds seems a bit high of a rate to me.

Anyway, should I just suck it up and bring my brass dowels with me to every range trip?

Seems to me your gun might be hosed for Russian steel-cased ammo. I guess it's possible to ream out the chamber to loosen up tolerances, but I can't really recommend that as I don't know how much that entails destroying your gun. :(

I'll buy that ammo off you if you want. :riker:

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



HappyCapybaraFamily posted:

I locked the slide back, dropped the magazine, and very gently eased the slide forward until the extractor claw grabbed the rim again. I then pulled back, gradually adding strength, until the case popped out. This is what it looked like (click for huger):


What the hell could cause the case to deform like this? :confused:

In my experience, that kind of case-mouth deformation really only happens when the extracted case bangs into the receiver somewhere on its way out. How forcefully did it eject when you got it to pop out?

I'm really, really leaning towards you getting your extractor or extractor spring replaced. Where did you get the brass casings from? Also shot through your 92G or somewhere else?

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



HappyCapybaraFamily posted:

Boo! :neckbeard:

Today I ran 100 rounds of Winchester (i.e., brass-cased ammo) through my 92. No failures. I am hopeful. When I have more time, I will run another 100-round value box ammo.

Looks like I won't be using all this Silver Bear anymore. Good thing some dumbass good buddy has offered to buy it off me at cost, though :shobon:

listen maybe your good buddy just has guns that aren't fuckin broken if it can't shoot Silver Bear, huh???

Anyway I'll buy it off you if your dumbass doesn't. :haw:

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Gray Stormy posted:

Someone in this thread has to have a 1201FP.

Give it to me.

Goddamn I remember AIM selling some po-surp 1201FPs for like $350 a few years back. I didn't know what they were and didn't hop on it like a mofo like everyone else did.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



GEEKABALL posted:

With the safety on (and of course after triple checking the chamber and the magazine were empty),I rode the slide home, apparently it stopped before going all the way forward and de-cocking. I can make it do this every time. A gentle nudge to the back of the slide at that point snaps the slide home and decocks it. Is this abnormal behavior?

When you ease the slide home, you're preventing the gun from going into battery. On an empty chamber with no cartridge, this won't be a problem, but make sure you don't do that on a live round and then try to shoot it. If the 92FS isn't designed to prevent it, you'll cause an out-of-battery explosion that will make for hurts.

So when you slingshot the gun or rack the slide, don't slowly ride it home if you wanna shoot it.

edit: hurp duh, of course the 92 can't fire that way :downs:

SadWhaleFamily fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Dec 26, 2011

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



infrared35 posted:

You got me looking around gunbroker for Berettas, and I found a good deal on an 84F.

There is a soft, money-lacking spot in my heart for gcolecoledist on gunbroker.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Colonial Air Force posted:

At $370, I could just buy a .22

No you couldn't. :colbert:

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Colonial Air Force posted:

Where would one get said grips?

I believe they are Alumagrips

They are $56 new at MidwayUSA with the dealer discount.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



IuniusBrutus posted:

Cole's Distributing has a couple of FRAME SAFETY 92s for sale for good prices.

Here is the nicest of the bunch, though they start at $300: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=297197283

How much would one have to worry that the slide will bury itself in one's face in a couple decades of shooting? :ohdear:

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



R-Type posted:

I have a new PX4 Storm Subcompact, and its accuracy is terrible. I can't group shots within 4 inches of each other at 5 yards. Is this the nature of the gun or is there any known issues with them?

Before we move much further, how did you evaluate the accuracy of the pistol? Did you shoot from a benched position, or offhand standing? Did you have another (preferably multiple) shooter verify the same accuracy?

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Neo Mara posted:

I've never had an issue with them. That having been said I bet they can't make the metal too hard because if it were and you cross thread the screws it would mess up the threading on the frame instead of the screws.

I just thought maybe they could just harden the head (:pervert:) but that's probably way too costly labor-wise just for some loving grip screws.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Action-Bastard posted:

Ok sorry in advance if this is a dumb baby question... But I was about to order a Px4 from Bud's when I noticed it was a D-type, decided to look that up and I'm finding out that it basically has no safety as far as I can tell. As this would be my first pistol that kinda worries me, I like safeties on guns I'm not familiar with. Like I said maybe I'm being a baby, is there actually a safety feature to the D type or should I find something else?

The D-Type Px4 is a double-action-only trigger with no manual safety. There is a firing pin block in the gun to make it drop-safe.

If you're not yet familiar with the gun, may I suggest finding a range that rents guns like the Px4, or finding a local goon who owns a Px4 and is also nice enough to let you try it out?

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



infrared35 posted:

In the PX4, there's the "constant action" version which is what I've got. It's sort of like SIG's DAK system - it's effectively a pre-cocked DAO which keeps the pull smooth and fairly light through the Science of Mechanical Advantage.

I love that Italian gungineers figured out how to miniaturize a block-and-fall and put it in a gun. :v:

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Butch Cassidy posted:

Can't view it, are they G models?

They are out of stock models.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Insane Totoro posted:

Yeah I'd take a Neos if it was sub-$100. In hindsight.

But you just said you hated your Neos even though you got it for $80? :confused:

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Dead Reckoning posted:

If I take 0000 steel wool to those, do I risk damaging the finish?

Nope, unless you scrub at it with the same force as a porn-addicted dude banging a chick for the first time. Use some oil and gently scrub and your gun's finish will be fine.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Emulator posted:

Welp, picked up an italian 92FS today for just under $700 (really hard to find used beretta's in NJ). So next is - stainless steel guide rod to replace the plastic one, and wood grips I think.

stainless grips, walnut guide rod

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfo1QUGfWZE

Pietro Beretta-ganda

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SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Mishaco posted:

Like I said, just if you ever get the chance, shoot an ARX before jumping to a conclusion.

but it looks real dumb though

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