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Powerful Two-Hander posted:In Captain America 2 I liked how the winter soldier is "a ghost, a rumour that nobody believes" according to Romanov, yet at the end she says "I called in some favours in Moscow, here's the top secret file." Questions: a ghosts greatest weakness. I'd assume with Hydra's sleeper plan being exposed now it's a lot easier to get information from people who would have previously hid it.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:This is the Irritating Movie Moments thread, not the Edgy Contrarian Movie Opinions thread. I agree, you guys freaking out over hating Frozen are entitled to your opinion, and no one is arguing with you. Just, let it go 
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May 2, 2014 00:24
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Gaunab posted:I'd assume with Hydra's sleeper plan being exposed now it's a lot easier to get information from people who would have previously hid it. And, you know Cap recognizing it was Bucky Barnes. Having a name had to help.
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May 2, 2014 02:09
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:I wanna help, too: We get it, you don't need to shout anymore. Get up from your keyboard, man. Leave the room. Just turn away and slam the door.
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May 2, 2014 03:34
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Xander77 posted:Are you literally ten years old? Are you assuming I am? Because that was the last time when "I think Disney music isn't good" was an edgy statement. You sound closer to ten than he does hth. Frozen earned over a billion loving dollars dude. It's literally the most successful animated film of all time. Most of the world has enjoyed the film, including people who are professionals at telling whether a film is good or not good. You can't explain why it sucks, just that it does. That's kind of poo poo ten year olds post on youtube comments. You're a joke.
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May 2, 2014 09:56
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Frozen is poo poo, shut the gently caress up. I watched Enemy. That whole movie was an irritating moment.
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Modern Day Hercules posted:You sound closer to ten than he does hth. Frozen earned over a billion loving dollars dude. It's literally the most successful animated film of all time. Most of the world has enjoyed the film, including people who are professionals at telling whether a film is good or not good. You can't explain why it sucks, just that it does. That's kind of poo poo ten year olds post on youtube comments. You're a joke. It won a bunch of awards because literally not a single one of the people judging it could be arsed to actually watch the other entries or said "well animated movies are for kids so gently caress this i voted for disney."
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May 2, 2014 10:29
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:It won a bunch of awards because literally not a single one of the people judging it could be arsed to actually watch the other entries or said "well animated movies are for kids so gently caress this i voted for disney." Or it won awards because it's a good film and ALSO because of the Disney name recognition amongst awards voters? There are definitely issues regarding voters being Americocentric when it comes to films, but that doesn't justify the rage in this thread against the film. I'm not saying it was necessarily the best animated film of 2013, but it certainly wasn't a bad one.
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So a local film club got together and watched Birdemic the other night. I was invited to join in on the shenanigans. It was great in the way that only really terrible movies can be great, but the "let's make sure we shoehorn in Whitney Moore in a bra and panties and/or various states of undress" scenes were just embarrassing. Stick with your CG birds, guys, and leave the softcore porn to the pros.
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May 2, 2014 13:04
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Couldn't have been worse than The Room, which had no less than 5 sex scenes in a 1.5 hour movie.
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:So a local film club got together and watched Birdemic the other night. I was invited to join in on the shenanigans. But isn't this a staple of terribly awesome horror movies though?
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I would definitely argue that Birdemic is more enjoyable than The Room. Birdemic is "so bad it's good", having the perfect blend of bizarre and inept, while The Room is purely bad, and just inept. If it weren't for Adult Swim and Tim & Eric, 99% of it's "fans" would have never heard of The Room, and would never have started liking it "ironically". I guess my irrational irritant is fan bases that start from ironic places.
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fallingdownjoe posted:Or it won awards because it's a good film and ALSO because of the Disney name recognition amongst awards voters? There are definitely issues regarding voters being Americocentric when it comes to films, but that doesn't justify the rage in this thread against the film. I thought Frozen was a perfectly fine movie, but I also now loathe "Let it Go", mainly because my 4 year old daughter is either a) listening to it or b) singing it. It was cute for the first month, but the song is loving everywhere, and gets stuck in your head rather easily.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:In Captain America 2 I liked how the winter soldier is "a ghost, a rumour that nobody believes" according to Romanov, yet at the end she says "I called in some favours in Moscow, here's the top secret file." Questions: a ghosts greatest weakness. I like that he's a "ghost, a rumor that nobody believes" and an urban legend in the intelligence community and all that other stuff they called him even though his MO is apparently just calmly walking down the street blasting the poo poo out of everyone in broad daylight.
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:I like that he's a "ghost, a rumor that nobody believes" and an urban legend in the intelligence community and all that other stuff they called him even though his MO is apparently just calmly walking down the street blasting the poo poo out of everyone in broad daylight. They show photos of him doing other assassination attempts in history. I think he had to resort to more brutish techniques because Nick Fury is loving awesome.
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May 2, 2014 17:41
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I've been catching up with Game of Thrones, which is pretty good except that the swordplay is really terrible. Every fight looks painfully telegraphed, especially the one between Jaime Lannister and Ned Stark in Season 1. It's probably irrational to expect actors to train at sword fighting for very long, but jese I expected Sean Bean to be at least somewhat good given his experience in LOTR. It was especially jarring to go from the crappy swordfighting in GoT to the elegantly choreographed 13 Assassins the other night.P
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May 2, 2014 17:51
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And there's the standard Hollywood swordfighting idiotic clanging the edges of the blades together. That's just begging for a snapped blade or at least a ruined edge if you did it in real life.
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May 2, 2014 19:09
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KozmoNaut posted:And there's the standard Hollywood swordfighting idiotic clanging the edges of the blades together. That's just begging for a snapped blade or at least a ruined edge if you did it in real life. Yeah, but it's interesting to watch, that's the thing. It's not 'realistic', but otherwise sword battles would be over in an instant, and they'd be no fun. It's like martial arts movies - if every battle ended with the good guy sucker punching the bad guy, who went down with the wind knocked out of him, they wouldn't be worth watching.
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May 2, 2014 19:14
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I'm happy with a sword fight if (ever so rarely) the people involved look like they're trying to hit the other person rather than the other persons sword.
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May 2, 2014 19:54
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Xander77 posted:I'm happy with a sword fight if (ever so rarely) the people involved look like they're trying to hit the other person rather than the other persons sword. I wouldn't, you need some pizzazz to put them on screen. Don't get me wrong, the parry-thrust back and forth is super boring if they don't add variety, but if they do a straight sword fight then it would be like watching a single match of fencing. You'd hear 'clinkclink' and then a gasp as one of the people got stabbed.
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May 2, 2014 19:59
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People always die instantly when they lose a sword fight. One stab in the stomach area and they gasp and then die 3 seconds later. No ugly, long, painful death with blood going everywhere.
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fallingdownjoe posted:Or it won awards because it's a good film and ALSO because of the Disney name recognition amongst awards voters? There are definitely issues regarding voters being Americocentric when it comes to films, but that doesn't justify the rage in this thread against the film. http://www.cartoonbrew.com/award-season-focus/definitive-proof-that-academy-voters-are-ignorant-about-animation-96680.html No, it really didn't. It's a huge thing going on in the animation industry since it basically means that if you release something the same year Disney or Pixar or even Bluesky does you will not even get a fair chance.
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May 2, 2014 20:12
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In Disney's defense most of the movies that Sony and Dreamworks animation are pumping out are God-awful.
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Pook Good Mook posted:In Disney's defense most of the movies that Sony and Dreamworks animation are pumping out are God-awful. A lot of Dreamworks earlier stuff is a bit shabby, but I'll defend the first Shrek movie, both Kung Fu Panda movies and How to Train Your Dragon to the death. (And if we're talking about Oscar voters not having a clue, How to Train Your Dragon was bloody robbed of the Oscar for Best Score by Reznors' frankly rather poor effort on The Social Network in 2010.)
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Morpheus posted:I wouldn't, you need some pizzazz to put them on screen. Don't get me wrong, the parry-thrust back and forth is super boring if they don't add variety, but if they do a straight sword fight then it would be like watching a single match of fencing. You'd hear 'clinkclink' and then a gasp as one of the people got stabbed. Also, what do pizzas have to do with fighting scenes? I like them as much as the next guy, but I don't really think they're relevant there. Like, maybe you'd throw them at someone?
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Xander77 posted:I'm happy with a sword fight if (ever so rarely) the people involved look like they're trying to hit the other person rather than the other persons sword. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr6VrmOQY1M It's more like a bar brawl that happens to include swords.
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Irisi posted:A lot of Dreamworks earlier stuff is a bit shabby, but I'll defend the first Shrek movie, both Kung Fu Panda movies and How to Train Your Dragon to the death. Megamind is also legitimately a great movie.
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Mu Zeta posted:People always die instantly when they lose a sword fight. One stab in the stomach area and they gasp and then die 3 seconds later. No ugly, long, painful death with blood going everywhere. I think Sean Connery's Robin Hood movie had a pretty realistic fight scene where the combatants were using their armor as well as their weapons to deflect hits away from the body more than just aiming for the swords.
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May 2, 2014 23:14
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My Lovely Horse posted:Last time this came up someone posted the fight scene from Polanski's Macbeth. Thanks for that, hadn't seen it before. It's sets a new standard of realism if only for the fact that both fighters are exhausted within thirty seconds.
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May 2, 2014 23:25
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Lotish posted:I think Sean Connery's Robin Hood movie had a pretty realistic fight scene where the combatants were using their armor as well as their weapons to deflect hits away from the body more than just aiming for the swords.
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May 2, 2014 23:37
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Xander77 posted:It's an odd and highly recommended movie, btw. It's like a deconstruction of the one Robin Hood movie in which he played King Richard, only twenty years in advance. You mean the one where Alan Rickman was the coolest bastard in the movie?
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One of my favorite subversions of the classic 'clash clash bang bang' swordfight was the fight in Bud's trailer in Kill Bill 2. Swords were functionally useless due to the environment and even when you think they'll finally go 'clash clash bang bang', this other thing happens.
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May 3, 2014 02:16
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I thought the fight scene and the end of Safe was pretty great at bucking the usual trends in action films.
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Lotish posted:I think Sean Connery's Robin Hood movie had a pretty realistic fight scene where the combatants were using their armor as well as their weapons to deflect hits away from the body more than just aiming for the swords. But despite that, when the actual killing blow comes it goes straight through chainmail with almost no effort. And maybe I'm everything wrong with modern audiences, but I found that fight boring as hell. Same with the Macbeth one. I can't tell who's winning, there's no noticeable difference between how they fight, and the ending comes out of nowhere and feels completely unearned. While youtubing the scenes I found the Achilles v Hector one from Troy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ygRholyh5g I've never seen the movie, but out of context I kind of like it. I've no idea how accurate the fighting is (my gut says: not at all) but it's actually interesting to watch. You could watch it in silence and know which dude is Achilles, (one being Brad Pitt does help) because he fights like a guy who knows he's the bestest coolest badassest around. And as the fight goes on instead of stumbling around you see Hector becoming more desperate and more dangerous, Achilles starts to get over-confident and starts over-extending himself. It's great. Someone posted the Brienne v Jaime scene in the Mediaeval Combat thread. The experts were pretty dismissive, made some crack about how it looked like one person was half asleep, and the other never actually wanted to hurt him. So even if the fighting is unrealistic, a guy who knew nothing about the show could watch the scene in isolation and actually get the characters. I'd say that's a good result.
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Overly-choreographed and unrealistic sword fights are great when done well. Exhibit A: Orlando Bloom vs. Johnny Depp in the first Pirates of the Caribbean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLumu0DcycM I never grow tired of this scene. It's a shame they had to try to one-up it in the second (sword fight in a huge waterwheel that's rolling down a hill) and third (sword fight in the rigging of a ship caught in a maelstrom) movies, because they were just too silly.
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Ok! I got it figured out guys! Its irritating when... *fights are unrealistic because realism *fights are unrealistic because boring But it's even more irritating when... *fights are unrealistic and boring
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Tyrannosaurus posted:Ok! I got it figured out guys! 
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I think I've said it before but I actually like this part of their fight. Apparently because Obi-Wan would have taught Anakin to fight originally, it makes sense they try the same move at the same time. Someone told me that's what the choreographer/director said anyway. I think it's neat if true
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