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In the recent movie Trust I couldn't believe the scene where the 14 year old girl meets with her online "boyfriend" for the first time. He claimed to be 25 but she's upset to learn that he's 35. It's obvious he's a creepy fucker but she falls for his "smooth talk" and I just couldn't believe an otherwise bright 14 year old could be that stupid. It was especially jarring since the rest of the movie is fairly realistic and plausible. Maybe I just don't understand teenage girls (it's been awhile).
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Mu Zeta posted:Writing the virus wasn't that hard once they found out the aliens use USB ports Of course! It is, after all, the Universal Serial Bus! 
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Sep 6, 2011 06:56
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I mentioned something similar in another thread a while back, but I really hate how most films set in the 1980s are always a wacky anachronistic pop culture stew of the entire decade making it seem like the year 198X. Even if it is a specific year, say 1989, there will be girls fawning over early '80s heartthrob Rick Springfield while wearing dayglow leg warmers and Madonna "Like A Virgin" attire while dudes are sporting Michael Jackson red jackets with one glove and A Flock of Seagulls hair while listening to Guns N' Roses. At some point in the movie, there will be a breakdance dance-off with Ozone and Turbo look-a-likes set to "Rapper's Delight," the only goddamn rap/hip-hop song that existed throughout the entirety of the decade until the '90s (of which ironically came out in 1979). Movies set in the '50s, '60s and '70s are always more conservative, straightforward and year specific with a true nostalgic feel which really puts you in that era and year. Hell, even movies set in the '90s are pretty grounded and true, which gives me a true sense of nostalgia for that time (being that I was a teenager then) and makes me think, "yep, that's how the '90s really were." Then there's the '80s movie. gently caress that wacky-for-the-sake-of-being-wacky poo poo.
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Sep 6, 2011 07:05
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gnarlyhotep posted:Oh gently caress yes. But I have to disagree on Worst Offender. My suggestion is Independence Day: "NP I'll just hack the alien computer with my MacBook because hackers viruses information superhighway mathematics insert thing producer heard from nephew last week" I'd always thought the implication was that they reverse-engineered modern computer technology from the tech found inside the alien spacecraft. Granted, that makes it sort of like trying to link up an oldschool Game Boy to a 3DS, but it helps me sleep at night.
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You Are A Elf posted:Dissin '80s movies Sorry but we are not going to get along here. You watch yourself...I'm wanted in 12 forums!
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JerksNeedLoveToo posted:Electric Bugaloo posted: Whoa man, I thought this was the Irrationally Irritating movie thread, not the It makes sense to be bothered about these things as a normal person thread. According to the name, I'm allowed to nitpick and  about physics inconsistencies all I want. For that matter, ANY movie about monsters/zombies/cloning/dinosaurs/etc. is egregiously guilty of taking a fat steaming dump on the whole of biology. Just like the late 80's were all about "computers are magic," the last 2 decades have been "genetics iz magic."On a different-but just as spergtacular- note, I particularly disliked Watchmen because of the way Rorschach and Ozymandias were reduced to Hard line vigilante who doesn't play by your rulesTM and Megalomaniacal VillainTM. Yes, those were totally big aspects of their characters but the film decided to basically ignore the fact that you're not really supposed to fully like or fully hate either of them for some good ol' Zack Snyder slow-fast-slow karate. My friend came back from the film completely oblivious to the fact that the original Rorschach is basically a violent, bigoted fascist and Ozy's intentions-while incredibly blind, horrible, and smug-were born in some semblance of public service. They essentially represent light and dark sides of the Right and Left. He was all just, "Rorschach is so awesome"- which to be fair, is how a lot of people who read the book took him as well, given how many people dress up as him at cons- and goons at Halloween. I remember a story I heard about Alan Moore being at a signing and seeing a guy in a Rorschach costume come up to him. Moore takes one look at the guy and says something like, "You really didn't get the book, did you?" trilobite terror has a new favorite as of 08:21 on Sep 6, 2011 |
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Sep 6, 2011 08:17
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You Are A Elf posted:80's movies, like gag me with a spoon
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The ending to Donnie Darko was loving annoying to me. So the whole point of the movie seems to be that the world would be better off without him so he offs himself with a jet engine. Except during the movie you see that he exposes a pedophile and burns his house down, is like the only person within an eighty mile radius to actually be nice to Gretchen, and he defends that fat asian girl from bullying. He actually did some good, well intentioned things. It just seems like pathetic emo fantasy whinging "oh no one loves me my suburban white kid life is so bad gonna kill myself" I had someone try to explain it to me (the person who got me to watch it in the first place) and saying I needed to watch the DVD extras or read some loving book to understand it better. Why should I have to bother with that? A movie can be a self contained story, I shouldn't have to treat it like an open book test paging through some other media, I wanna watch a movie!
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beatlegs posted:There were some great, substantial films made in the 80's. The lovely ones you can easily spot by the cheesy titles and garish cover art. Just a tip. I think he's talking about movies made now that are set in the 80s.
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I noticed it most recently in the latest Resident Evil film, but really it applies to most films aimed at the young male audience - the female characters are always sexily dressed even when all logic would point to them being dressed a little more appropriately to the situation, and they have perfect hair and makeup at all times despite living in a post-apocalyptic war zone and not even being able to find food, let alone find a lipstick and some eyeliner lying around. It's not so much that I'm getting mad about objectification of women, but it just annoys me because it's so blatant. If I was in the target audience I'd feel insulted and patronised that they felt the need to supply me with some 'eye candy' as if I couldn't sit through a film without having tits waved in my face to keep me interested.
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Nucular Carmul posted:The ending to Donnie Darko was loving annoying to me. So the whole point of the movie seems to be that the world would be better off without him so he offs himself with a jet engine. Except during the movie you see that he exposes a pedophile and burns his house down, is like the only person within an eighty mile radius to actually be nice to Gretchen, and he defends that fat asian girl from bullying. He actually did some good, well intentioned things. It just seems like pathetic emo fantasy whinging "oh no one loves me my suburban white kid life is so bad gonna kill myself" It's hard to explain it without referring to the extra story you get from the DVD extras and so on (i.e. this explanation is coloured by it slightly), but I think basically he realised that if he lived, Gretchen would die, ergo, he decided to die. In a way it's still a bit selfish I suppose (in relation to his family), but I don't think the interpretation of choosing someone else's life over his own would need reference to the DVD extras.
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Sharks Below posted:This one is so stupid, but this was one of my favourite movies as a teenager (along with Idle Hands) so it's the one that sticks out the most. He could just be listing "the smell of cakes" and then saying that there are pies everywhere. Spaticus posted:One thing that always drives me nuts is in Pulp Fiction's scene where John Travola and Samuel L. Jackson go to the apartment to get the briefcase. They get shot at by the Jerry Seinfeld guy, and none of the bullets hit them, leaving bullet holes behind them. Maybe they were just blanks and the shooter was an idiot? No divine miracle at all. Beartaco has a new favorite as of 10:35 on Sep 6, 2011 |
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Sep 6, 2011 10:32
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This isn't limited to a single movie, but rather occurs in way too many movies to mention. "Nerdy white teenaged protagonist spends time moping after way-too-hot-for-her girl with rear end in a top hat boyfriend who hates him, and who later either breaks up with her or is killed for plot convenience." It's horrible focus-group-approved bullshit that leaves a bad taste in my mouth every time I see it, and it crops up in the weirdest places. Not to defend the indefensible (because AVP2 was a heap of dreck that I only watched because I was at a friend's place and was outvoted and which wouldn't have been salvageable even if the offending trope wasn't included) but who writes a script for a film in the Alien franchise (yeah, I know, it wasn't untainted at that point but still...) and decides "You know what this horror/sci-fi film needs? TEEN NICE-GUY ANGST! because our focus groups show that our audience are a bunch of angsty teens, and it's really important to the artistic vision of an 'aliens invade and gently caress poo poo up' movie that a whiny adolescent love-triangle takes up valuable screen-time, because our audience demands something from their lives that they can relate to in an outlandish film about chestbursting alien killhordes."
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In Stargate there's a bit where one of the Anubis-warrior dudes gets decapitated by the transporter-ring thing (I don't know the terminology, sorry). He is lying supine, sees his death coming, and screams so you can see all his teeth. And he has shiny silver fillings in his molars. I don't know why this bothers me so much but it does. If he started out as one of the downtrodden local workers, they were too low-tech to have dental work done. And Ra's technology is too high-tech to rely on amalgam fillings. They couldn't have taken 10 seconds to dab a little white-out on those frames in post-production? 
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Sep 6, 2011 12:01
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Another Star Trek one: So Kirk is a cadet school washout, but he suddenly gets to jump up all the ranks straight to Captain because the acting Captain told him he could be in charge while he was away. I don't think chain of command works that way. At the end of Matrix Revolutions when Neo dies and the machines zap him full of "kill Smith Juice" a cross of light erupts from his chest. Yes I get it, he is a Christ allegory. I already feel dumb having spend $9 to see this movie, why insult my intelligence further?
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Sep 6, 2011 12:14
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Nucular Carmul posted:The ending to Donnie Darko was loving annoying to me. So the whole point of the movie seems to be that the world would be better off without him so he offs himself with a jet engine. Except during the movie you see that he exposes a pedophile and burns his house down, is like the only person within an eighty mile radius to actually be nice to Gretchen, and he defends that fat asian girl from bullying. He actually did some good, well intentioned things. It just seems like pathetic emo fantasy whinging "oh no one loves me my suburban white kid life is so bad gonna kill myself" I don't recall the details perfectly but the events of Donnie Darko take place in a tangent universe which has opened up alongside the new one as a result of Donnie not being in his bed the the night the jet engine comes flying through his ceiling. Unless he somehow travels back in time before the time limit Frank specifies the tangent universe will collapse and basically the entire world will end. The world will be better off without him in it because otherwise it's all going to end.
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Why the gently caress was everyone such a oval office to Ryan Reynolds in "Buried" Everyone bar that English bloke was so unbelievably twattish. I'm the most miserable, cynical person in the world and even I thought it was a bit much.
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I know that it's stupid and pointless to get worked up about plot holes in children's movies, but watching a lot of my childhood favorites with my daughter now that I'm an adult has me taking issue with the dumbest stuff. In Beauty & the Beast, why the gently caress does the Beast not have a name? He was not born a beast, he was a prince, yet nowhere in this movie does anyone learn his name. OK, it makes sense that the servants would call him "Master" and that MOST people would just call him a beast, but he and Belle get pretty cozy there and he never bothers to tell her "Oh hey by the way my name is _____ so you can stop calling me Beast now!" When she realizes she loves him and rides up at the end as Gaston is about to kill him and she cries out "BEAST!!!!" all anguished, it just annoys me to no end. Another thing that bugs me with that movie is the time frame. How long has this castle been enchanted? Apparently long enough for everyone to completely forget the existence of a loving prince a day or two's ride away from the village. This would make sense if we assumed that time stopped for the enchanted castle while it was under the spell, but the problem with this idea is that they say the rose will only bloom until the prince's 21st year, after which point he will be doomed to remain a beast forever, so time MUST be passing. Realistically how long could it have been that they have been enchanted? In the artwork in the beginning he appears to already be an adult, and in the painting of himself that he slashes with his claws he looks exactly the same as when he is restored to himself at the end of the movie. This implies that it is not very long at all, yet all of them have completely lost hope and the entire outside world has forgotten all about them.
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Sep 6, 2011 13:46
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Mu Zeta posted:I think he's talking about movies made now that are set in the 80s. Bingo. No one read the all important "set in the..." part that precedes "'80s." I actually was around throughout the entirety of the decade. Lots of lasers and synthesizers.
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Sep 6, 2011 14:51
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I'm not a gun nerd but some weapon-related issues irritate me irrationally. The minigun in Predator. They spent all the effort to get a working minigun in the movie, which is cool as hell, and then used a completely generic rat-tat-tat sound for it. WHAT THE gently caress? How hard would it have been to get the actual sound for it? For the record, this is what the chainguns actually sound like. Even Terminator 2 does the exact same thing and uses a completely lame generic machine gun sound in the minigun shootout scene. WHY? Would the real sound have confused the audience? In a movie about killer robots from the future?
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FretforyourLatte posted:Another thing that bugs me with that movie is the time frame. How long has this castle been enchanted? It's been enchanted for 10 years (they say so in Be Our Guest), which says a couple of things to me: 1. The enchantress was a bitch and turned an 11 year old boy into the beast. But if that's the case why were there portraits of him as an adult in the castle? And where the hell did Chip come from, there's no way that kid is 10 years old - is Mrs. Potts getting it on with Mr. Potts while they're both in teapot/whatever Mr. Potts is form? Why is the dog still alive and that frisky? Also where were his parents, why was he in charge of the castle and a bunch of servants with no adult supervision? 2. The beast was already an adult when he was enchanted. But in this case, why would she specify his 21st birthday but everyone's been enchanted for 10 years? Wouldn't she just say "You have 10 years to find true love or you're a beast forever," why put a date on it if he was already pretty close to being 21?
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The Big Lebowski has been one of my favorite movies since I saw it in the theater. I've seen it countless times, attended several Lebowskifests, etc. But there's one line that drives me bonkers to this day. When the Dude, Donny, and Walter are discussing the Nihilists' threat to cut off the Dude's Johnson, Donny is doing his usual clueless act. This finally culminates in: DUDE gently caress your sympathy! I don't need your sympathy, man, I need my loving Johnson! DONNY What do you need that for, Dude? Now, Lebowski is a tight movie - even moreso than most Coens films. I mean there's not a word, production design detail, audio cue, etc. that's not 100% deliberate, considered, and intentional...except this line. Donny isn't a clown or a total imbecile, he's just a naive and simplistic guy. The line is actually out-of-character slapstick/stupid, to the point where it distracts me every single time I watch the movie. I'm convinced that there's more to the line, somehow, that I'm just missing - but I've scoured the script, watched the scene repeatedly, and debated it with other Lebowski aficionados and it really just seems to be an uncharacteristically pointless slapstick line that's really out of character and tone with the rest of Donny's material.
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Sep 6, 2011 16:01
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:Well they should have just left the Technicolor thing out. I hated, hated, hated, hated, hated Hobo with a Shotgun for many reasons, but this was what really killed me. The visual style just felt so blatantly misguided and "off" that it felt like a Gen-Y'er's misconception of what "Eighties Home Video Grindhouse Stuff was like, BRO!" more than any sort of remotely respectful, loving, or accurate tribute/pastiche.
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Transistor Rhythm posted:The Big Lebowski has been one of my favorite movies since I saw it in the theater. I've seen it countless times, attended several Lebowskifests, etc. But there's one line that drives me bonkers to this day. I always assumed, especially in the Bridges/Buscemi/Goodman scenes, that there was a fair amount of improv going on.
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Sep 6, 2011 16:16
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cyberbug posted:I'm not a gun nerd but some weapon-related issues irritate me irrationally. It's probably EXACTLY because the real sound would confuse the audience. I've read a few articles and listened to a few directors commentaries, so I'm certainly not an expert, but a lot of decisions like that are made because most directors figure most audiences are pretty dim bulbs. One of the biggest ones is from The Matrix. The original script called for humans to be used for their brains; the machines wanted to live inside an advanced network, and nothing is more advanced than the human brain. This was deemed to complicated, so it got switched to power cells, which is easy to grasp but actually quite stupid in reality.
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Sep 6, 2011 17:18
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The scene at the end of True Grit where the dude knifes the loving horse to try to make it go faster. It only speeds the horse up for a couple seconds before it collapses and dies, so why the gently caress even bother putting that scene in the movie in the first place? I know it's supposed to make it look like he cares a lot about the little girl, but gently caress. You didn't have to kill the goddamn horse.  It killed an otherwise decent movie for me.
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Clavietika posted:The scene at the end of True Grit where the dude knifes the loving horse to try to make it go faster. It only speeds the horse up for a couple seconds before it collapses and dies, so why the gently caress even bother putting that scene in the movie in the first place? I know it's supposed to make it look like he cares a lot about the little girl, but gently caress. You didn't have to kill the goddamn horse. The horse was already dead. Well, it was past the point of survival. He wanted to get the last few seconds of speed out of it before it died, because that meant fewer feet to carry her. It was dead anyway; the difference was letting it lay down and die slowly, or stabbing it and making it run until it collapsed. Horses can only gallop full speed for a little while, 15, 20 minutes, before suffering permanent damage. There's this movie inspired idea that horses can sprint all day, it just simply isn't true. Maybe Shadowfax can, but real life horses are meant to walk. Even if you're riding a horse on a long trip (multiple days, hundreds of miles), a responsible rider will get off and walk next to the horse as often as he rides it. That's why the Pony Express had stations set up every so many miles, because running a horse any longer meant it would die, and that would be too expensive.
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Edit: Pagan Thanks I did not know that actually. Much appreciated for the information. In Re: True Grit My understanding in that scene was speed was of the essence so she wouldn't die. That horse was dead anyway, he rode it to the ground, and the knife bit was trying to speed it up faster, but it just gave out and was dying anyway I assumed it broke it's leg or something As for what bugs me Inglorious Bastards The big plan to wipe out the Nazi leadership, I saw Hitler, Goering, Speer, Goebbels, Bormann, but no Himmler. If the plan was to totally decapitate Nazi leadership he seemed like a big dude to miss and if Himmler went from reichsfurher SS to furher that would make things worse because he was less of a micromanager and he might have been able to push back the Normandy landings patb01 has a new favorite as of 17:59 on Sep 6, 2011 |
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cyberbug posted:The minigun in Predator. They spent all the effort to get a working minigun in the movie, which is cool as hell, and then used a completely generic rat-tat-tat sound for it. WHAT THE gently caress? How hard would it have been to get the actual sound for it? For the record, this is what the chainguns actually sound like. Even Terminator 2 does the exact same thing and uses a completely lame generic machine gun sound in the minigun shootout scene. WHY? Would the real sound have confused the audience? In a movie about killer robots from the future? In the same way, it really gets me now that I can reliably recognize which movies are using the most over-used stock gun and explosion noises. It's simultaneously hilarious and mood-shattering when I'm listening to an epic gunfight with sounds from the first Command and Conquer game.
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That DICK! posted:I always assumed, especially in the Bridges/Buscemi/Goodman scenes, that there was a fair amount of improv going on. And that seems plausible - but the Coens are actually notoriously "anti-improv" as far as what gets ultimately filmed. Unless it was just something that came up that they found too goofy to not include...but again, that seems weirdly out of character when minor details like matching the Dude's whale checks to the fact that he listens to whalesongs are considered.
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Fantasmo posted:In Hellboy there's a scene where he's running across a crumbling bridge underground and it looks so fake you can clearly see him running across the air where it's already crumbled away. Sadly I can't find a video. It makes me embarrassed for the filmmakers that they kept it in. Are you saying demons can't run on air? 
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I always though Donny was like a child wandering into a movie theatre half way through a film and asking what was going on. So I just figured he misheard The Dude.
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Der Luftwaffle posted:In the same way, it really gets me now that I can reliably recognize which movies are using the most over-used stock gun and explosion noises. It's simultaneously hilarious and mood-shattering when I'm listening to an epic gunfight with sounds from the first Command and Conquer game. Oh god, yes. I remember playing Civilization II back in the day, and the old melee sound effects were the same effects used in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" during the fight with the Black Knight. No, seriously, they're the same effects. Listen to it. Then there's always the old Wilhelm Scream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_scream). Is it really that hard to record a new scream every now and again? It's STILL turning up in movies and TV shows today!
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The Wilhelm Scream is mainly used as an in-joke, isn't it? I can't see something so well known actually being used as a "Oh, we need a stock scream, throw this in there" type thing.
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Moose King posted:The Wilhelm Scream is mainly used as an in-joke, isn't it? I can't see something so well known actually being used as a "Oh, we need a stock scream, throw this in there" type thing. I know some people hate it, but I quite enjoy hearing it now. A little audio easter-egg. The last one I noticed was in Super 8, I think. It's everywhere.
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Perfume: The Story of a Murderer (Besides the title and how it sucked compared to the book) Or 500 ways to pronounce Grenouille, despite being from the same city or town. The Island A movie with an interesting story, awesome cast, visual style...let's ruin it! By having Michael Bay as the director. Explosions! Unnecessary explosions! Let's interrupt a chase scene with train wheels!
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Transistor Rhythm posted:I hated, hated, hated, hated, hated Hobo with a Shotgun for many reasons, but this was what really killed me. The visual style just felt so blatantly misguided and "off" that it felt like a Gen-Y'er's misconception of what "Eighties Home Video Grindhouse Stuff was like, BRO!" more than any sort of remotely respectful, loving, or accurate tribute/pastiche. I'll be honest, I do feel a little validated that I'm not the only one who felt that way. It might be irrational (and show that I'm old before my time) but at least i have someone to be irrational with.
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gnarlyhotep posted:When I heard Keanu was starring in The Matrix my reaction was "Oh boy another Keanu classic I know this is from the last page, but it's Kung Fu. Get it together man! 
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:I'll be honest, I do feel a little validated that I'm not the only one who felt that way. It might be irrational (and show that I'm old before my time) but at least i have someone to be irrational with. That movie was terrible for a lot of reasons. The poor attempts at grainy film were only the stinky exterior. Oh, and it bugs me that the entire premise of Double Jeopardy is wrong. If you get wrongly imprisoned for killing someone who (surprise!) isn't really dead, you can't go kill that person for real as revenge without getting arrested. Double Jeopardy law prevents a person from being tried twice for the same crime, literally. Killing someone at a later date, under different details, is a separate crime no matter what. By the film's logic, I could rob a convenient store, do a few years in prison, then rob it again every day of my life because it's the "same crime." I haven't seen it since it was in the theater (yeah...) but I don't think there was some loophole that made it not completely stupid.
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