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Mar 19, 2007

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rockcity posted:

If you need to hold temperature, absolutely get the Bonavaita that has the base with the temperature settings. I've had mine for about 2 years and it's amazing. Heats up super quickly and holds temp very well.

2nding this. It rules so hard. Hell I use it for tea and heating up filtered water for bread making.

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Mar 19, 2007

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Joke answer: don't trust anyone that capitalizes every loving word. Serious answer: I'm actually a little worried about the slot size and the overall quality of the plastic. If it's 'recyclable' then the plastic is going to wear quicker than like, a ceramic pour over. Also a Melitta is still cheaper.

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Mar 19, 2007

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KettleWL posted:

The melitta requires filters for every batch I thought, which seems both wasteful, expensive, and unnecessary?

Most grocers carry hugeass packs of no 4 coffee filters for 4 bucks, so no? And filters are actually necessary to a good cup of coffee.

Sextro posted:

If you really want to cut down on filter waste go for a flannel/polyester filter for an Aeropress or a stainless kone for chemex.

Don't buy a melitta for pour overs. Their design is terrible for lighter roasted coffees. Endless clogs, not as easy as a kalita, nowhere near as clean as a V60.

I only said it because it was literally 5 bucks on amazon. I own a clever coffee dripper myself, and that's a little more pricey, but the worst thing that's ever happened to it was some hard water build up on the inside.

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Mar 19, 2007

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Mu Zeta posted:

Moka pots are so pretty with their timeless design but the coffee tastes like dirty rear end.

The aluminum is definitely a factor. I bought a stainless steel one and it makes a decent cup.

Obligatory Toast
Mar 19, 2007

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I started brewing my coffee at 195 F and it's made a world of difference to me.

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Mar 19, 2007

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The_Rob posted:

Just like my grand pappy.

I'd say like 60 to 80 bucks.

Just get a decent moka pot, really. Most "decent" espresso machines are gonna run you up more than $100, even refurbed. Espresso machines are not cheap for a reason.

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Mar 19, 2007

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I don't do espresso at home because I don't care for espresso for the most part. I love a good pour over, and sometimes a nice moka pot, but I'm not gonna drop a couple hundred on a machine I'm not gonna use often and don't really have space for. I work at a place where I can get espresso for free, anyways.

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Mar 19, 2007

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Oh yeah, no. When you can make amaaazing pulls at home then the entire amount you spent usually justifies itself... I don't have room for another small appliance though (I really, super do not) and don't feel the need to spend more money on something I have no place for, so I'm more than happy with my coffee dripper.

That said, yeah you really don't spend a whole shitton on espresso at home compared to buying a latte every week over the course of a year or so. Decent beans aren't actually that expensive and if you're buying for one or two people, it's not that bad. People spend more on videogames yearly anyways, so I don't understand a lot of the bougie snobbery associated with money spent on coffee-enthusiasm. At least coffee is full of antioxidants.

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Mar 19, 2007

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rockcity posted:

Outside of the fact that they're both filtered coffees, they are completely different brewing methods. The Clever Coffee Dripper is more akin to french press in terms of method than it is to a drip brewer. It's just being filtered more because of the filter media being a finer paper compared to the mesh screen of a french press. It's an immersion brewer meaning that the water is in contact with the coffee the entire time of the brewing process. The V60 is a drip brewer so it's just a more controllable/manual version of a drip machine. The water goes right through the coffee and the speed is only controlled by your grind. Really their only similarities are filter type and they both sit on top of your vessel.

Both can make very good coffee, it's just a matter of preference really. I tend to prefer the V60, but it takes more work to get it right.

And I have a clever coffee dripper. It is like a French press, just one you sit on your mug. You really need a good control over the water temp, and need to have a good grinder for your coffee to get the absolute best you can out of it. You can still make a good cup without either, though!

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Mar 19, 2007

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I don't think anyone would recommend regrinding coffee, but if you try a small batch for a cup or so and find you're okay with the result, who's gonna give a gently caress. You might end up with some compromised quality and excess dust, and maybe not something suitable for espresso or french press (which doesn't sound like an issue) but fine for a pour over or drip.

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Mar 19, 2007

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Wowporn posted:

I ended up getting a cheap frothing kettle and a moka pot, good combo IMO. I'm sad that apparently soy milk doesn't froth for poo poo though.

It hardly froths for poo poo with a proper steam wand, honestly. gently caress, it'll actually condense.

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Mar 19, 2007

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HappyHippo posted:

You could try barkeeper's friend.

And if you're super ballsy and feel like risking poisoning yourself, a weak CLR solution overnight will help. Either way, treat it once a week and let it dry out completely.

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Mar 19, 2007

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by.a.teammate posted:

We've got a Bonavita but i'm finding the coffee is a bit too bitter for my taste, i've been getting it ground at the shop i buy the coffee from and said its for a filter machine.

I know its hard to say what it could be but any tips? I wanted to buy a proper grinder when we get our kitchen re-done, should i just wait to get that and grind the beans finer?

Also with filter coffee is it worth doing anything special with the milk? We just use cold milk from the fridge at the moment.

Thanks!

Just warm a little milk in your microwave or stove top. It'll make a difference.

If you wanna get fancy, you can get a hand frother, but I use a little manual-pump frothing pitcher to make milk with foam. Not like the real thing, but it gets close.

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