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Hey guys I'm chasing a new hand grinder for espresso. I'm getting a new manual espresso machine (ROK) and I'm thinking my year old abused hario skerton isn't going to cut it for espresso Would anyone have any suggestions I would like it to be manual Stepless Appropriate for espresso No more than $250 I am leaning towards the ROK grinder for that full set bonus but its right on that 250 dollar boundary and quite large I'm wondering if there is something I'm missing before I pull the trigger
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Jul 4, 2020 08:25
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Lord Stimperor posted:My ROK grinder is on the way if you want me to try things out for you. Can't make espresso since I have no machine for that, but if you want specific things I can show them Ohh that would be fantastic, mostly I would like to see the footprint and exactly how the adjustment mechanism works
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Jul 4, 2020 11:08
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Champion, mostly I want something manual that can swap between french press and espresso with relative ease. So when you are doing a "new toy fiddle" could you take a mental note how easy you would say it is to go from an approximate espresso to an approximate french press. The missus likes a French press once or twice a week but I wanna make a daily espresso or three. I am aware that this may not exist but that's kind of my problem in looking for a solution. The skerton is a good enough grinder for the morning French press but adjusting regularly is a pain. Edit: serious thanks dude
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Jul 4, 2020 12:22
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evilolive posted:I really dig his french press technique. I only do that technique when using my french press. But lately it's been all aeropress for me. It's less forgiving in technique but I much prefer it. Not even kidding his french press video is what got me.u to coffee and improved my general cooking ability Tareing the scale.with the press on it was mind blowing
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Jul 4, 2020 22:32
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Lord Stimperor posted:My ROK coffee grinder seems to be delayed. It's in the country since the weekend, but according to the tracking code hasn't been handed over to the local mail service yet. No bragging rights and pictures yet *Shakes fist at covid*
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Jul 7, 2020 22:22
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mystes posted:Grinding beans in the morning to drink later in the day probably isn't the end of the world. Hi there , it's me , that guy freshly grinding and using the inverted aeropress method on-top of scales in the office kitchen Yeah, what of it 
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Jul 11, 2020 22:55
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Lord Stimperor posted:I have considered getting an Aeropress for the office as well. Is it easy to clean, like knock out the basket over the trash can and let water run through the chamber? I use a metal filter and prefer it over the paper filters. It makes the cleaning slightly more fiddly but it's still a 20 second affair in the sink From my experience it sounds like what you are after. You don't need to do the inverted method for a good coffee and the aeropress can be quite forgiving when you get the hang of it It's a nice Americano type thing , short and strong
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Jul 12, 2020 00:46
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Well I got them My first espresso machine and grinder Should serve me well, I am excited to play around with them but it's too late in the afternoon to have a coffee 
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Jul 15, 2020 07:54
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Well in the 30 minutes ive had this morning to dick around with my new grinder and machine I'm liking the workflow of weighing and preheating I'm supremely new to espresso so I'm unfamiliar with grind setting and such but that will come. I made something that wasn't horribly bitter and actually drinkable so I'm happy for that as a starting point Somebody asked if my ROK grinder came with the sticky material or the pads and it is the sticky material
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Jul 15, 2020 22:01
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My journey in manual espresso is going well I've nearly got a shot time and grind down, I actually drank one this morning It's all very exciting
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Jul 16, 2020 23:26
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I speak with no experience in espresso other than this It starting to feel intuitive I do find myself just having to trust that the machine is capable of doing so. Knowing that it tops out at 10 bars mean you just need to go hard and hope for the best Having seen charts from other espresso machines it feels easy enough to approximate the curve The coffee is slowly getting better
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Jul 17, 2020 06:36
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I have access to sheet metal at my place of work so I fashioned a small spiral screen in order to stop popcorning, it's effective enough
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Jul 17, 2020 23:22
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Lord Stimperor posted:I know you've found your own solution. But someone made a 3D-printed lid for the grinder. I'll probably make that myself. There are also other designs with a funnel, but I don't need that. Would you believe I sold my 3D printer a month ago.....
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Jul 19, 2020 21:28
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Shooting Blanks posted:I am clearly in the wrong business if people are buying $250 hand grinders for coffee. *Heavy breathing*
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Jul 22, 2020 03:10
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Lord Stimperor posted:That video is actually what brought the Aeropress Go to my attention. My two thoughts were "That looks dumb" and "I kinda want it". I got an aeropress for work coffee and it's fantastic If you like French press I'd reccomend the metal filter, it's good
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Jul 22, 2020 10:52
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Foxfire_ posted:I spent $250 on a hand grinder! The lack of play in the driveshaft and handle is very satisfying. Can confirm, my hario skerton is developing significant wobble and my fresh ROK hand Rinder is stiff as hell. I won't need a new grinder for a significant period of time Jestery fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Jul 22, 2020 22:18
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Lord Stimperor posted:I made my first Aeropress coffee today! It was delicious and cleaning was really as simple as pushing the puck out. Very positive experience! Play around , everyone aeropress's differently I don't stir at all, just fast pour into an inverted one and rely on the press action to finish it off after 40 seconds
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Jul 24, 2020 20:19
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For what it's worth My recipe 15 g of "slightly finer than french press" Into inverted aeropress 200ml of boiling water, poured quickly to fully saturate. Give it 40 seconds, put the cap and filter on in this time After the 40 seconds has passed place upright over your vessel and press lightly , aiming to empty in after another 40 seconds
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Jul 24, 2020 22:40
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Alright So, I've got recipe , obv you guys can't advise too much but hopefully I'm not doing anything right 16 gram dose in 44 grams out Done in 27 seconds from when the water hits the puck Does this sound like I'm getting somewhere?
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Jul 27, 2020 02:31
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Big Taint posted:RE: distribution, I saw a video that suggested you wobble the tamper around in the portafilter (sort of a Euler’s disk motion) and then spin it a bit to get things leveled, then tamp. I’ve been getting way less channeling since I started doing this, and I can do it with my tamper instead of buying yet more espresso paraphernalia. Interesting idea, ive been annoyed about the lack of 49 mm distribution tools So I've been working on a technique that involves an aeropress funnel and a hand over heavy tap on a chopping board, then spinning the tamper and then tamping on that
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Jul 30, 2020 02:36
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Ultimate Mango posted:Javapresse is the cheap and cheerful of hand grinders. *Harios intensely*
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Jul 30, 2020 07:13
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To throw my amateur hat in the ring, the manual ROK grinder does everything I would want in a grinder Consistent, wobble free , Infinitly adjustable grinding It is a bit of a countertop statement but it works well enough that I don't feel like I'm fighting it
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Jul 30, 2020 11:57
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The step up you get from a "step above bargain basic" french press and fresh ground beans Is incredibly more enjoyable than preground and a machine
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Aug 2, 2020 21:50
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screaden posted:Wait, all of Italy is lactose intolerant? Always has been...
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Aug 3, 2020 08:23
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Definately a bit of style over substance in that video Like , he could have had it be a bit more casual and be more of a musings type thing, but the production makes it feel like a TED talk that is lacking C'mon James you're better than this
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Aug 3, 2020 21:53
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My adventures in manual espresso are yielding well Ive got a nice pre infusion timing going and sense of (for lack of better word) pressure profile building
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Aug 5, 2020 07:45
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I make about half a litre of French press every day for the missus and I I got a 18 dollar(?) Stainless steel 700-800 ml press from eBay and haven't looked back Everything unscrews for a deep clean It has made so much of our morning brew
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Aug 13, 2020 02:28
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I would recommend buying a nice hand grinder and a French press and some nice beans You can get all that for under $150 You can very quickly get into the ritual and work out what is your jam taste wise and tune
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Aug 19, 2020 05:58
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The Postman posted:Is a cheap moka pot as good as any? Toying with the idea of making some espresso-like so I can dabble with something other than black coffee for my girlfriend. There is a difference, also they are fiddly and hard to clean, and have set outputs Just buy an aeropress
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Aug 19, 2020 07:00
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other people posted:God drat it they are not hard to clean stop saying that you baby. The process for cleaning , as you described, is fiddly It's seriously no contest Like, the Moka pot has far more intercies , threading, hot part that retain heat because grounds, a funnel that often needs to be knocked out, a clear "inside portion" with gaskets that can retain water and has a deep clean element to it, time to dried cont be ignored. I concede that there is absolutely a difference between a good quality Moka pot and a bad one. But I can't imagine this extending to the cleaning process significantly The aeropress is almost hydrophobic and It nearly fires out the puck into the bin or drain hole when I clear it. Like the geometry of it is a one way piston and even that helps with the cleaning process, the grounds don't get stuck in little holes or where they shouldn't. It almost shakes dry and I've had it not by wet in the time it takes to finish my coffee It is incredibly simple and quick to clean and every clean is a deep clean. I use a metal filter in my aeropress because I don't like clarity of a paper filter and even then cleaning a small metal disk/shower screen type thing is a far easier task than any Moka pot I have cleaned As an aside, having used both for morning coffee and work coffee. I found the ins and outs of an aeropress far easier to mentally track. Calling an aeropress "espresso" is definitely incorrect though, however in my experience it more than makes up for the lack of espresso-ness and it is a notably different drink to french press The aeropress bong is an idea though...
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Aug 19, 2020 09:01
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other people posted:I'm beginning to think you don't know how to use a mokapot. I agree that due to the heat, a mokapot is Not Good if you need to repeatedly use it in a short timeframe. But then maybe you just need a larger mokapot. I mean they both are not particularly difficult. quote:Any remaining water in the bottom piece should be totally clear; you don't need to scrub it, just rinse. Knocking the puck out is hard? ow my poor wrist If I have to leave it to cool down enough that I can twist it off without issue/enjoy my coffee, some coffee water invariably seeps down The fact that you even need to knock the puck out is a step that is absent in the cleaning process of the aeropress That you need to unscrew something potentially hot (or unscrew anything at all) is another thing that add to the fiddlyness of a Moka pot, relative to an aeropress That the parts while cleaning are large and regularly shaped aid in control under the tap and the shaking dry that I mentioned. It's all these little things that add up to make the whole experience far less labour intensive Like we are comparing minutes here of clean up time but , arguing about minutae in our hobbies is the poo poo we both live for I imagine
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Aug 19, 2020 09:48
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I'm funded by big aerobie
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Aug 19, 2020 20:17
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I got a hario skerton 2 year ago because it was cheap and it has served me very well, starting to have some play but still works I don't think hand grinders should be dismissed out of hand
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Aug 20, 2020 14:02
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Red_Fred posted:I accidentally bought Geisha beans today. $30 NZD for 250g. They are delicious though so it’s not all bad. I did the same with my first espresso machine Was very surprised by them, especially considering I didn't know what gesha was and was all like "Are these extracting right? What's this flavour?"
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Aug 29, 2020 13:58
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Lord Stimperor posted:Jestery, completely unrelated, do you grind your aeropress and french press coffee with your ROK grinder? What setting do you use? Not at the moment Best laid plans , and routine momentum have buggered my earlier plan I keep my aeropress at work and have a seperate grinder for it there I have a hario skerton next to my French press as it is just a less fiddly , and more practiced process when I just wake up And my ROK grinder and ROK presso both hang out on the counter top. I'm still learning how to dial in so I don't want to dick about with the setting too much. My grinder doesn't have numbers on it so I have no idea about where the setting is, if it did I would probably feel more confident playing with it https://i.imgur.com/qJwnXc8.jpg Long story short, individual grinder for each process https://i.imgur.com/xlvPlK7.jpg
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Aug 29, 2020 23:03
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Lord Stimperor posted:Ah I see. Very true, not having an indexing point for 0 means it's a very intuitive, implicit style of adjustment "more coarse , more fine" It is nice to just click it onces of twice to the left and have a significant increase in quality, even If I don't know what it is set to
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Aug 29, 2020 23:25
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Used to pass by a roaster on the way into work and would routinely buy fancy beans to have in my morning coffee When I started doing this I started think "Huh tastes a bit like cherry pits" And the penny dropped and I realised that this sort of tasting is super why some people get into coffee
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Aug 30, 2020 00:31
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Yeah I dug out my youth's drug scale, wiped off the residue, remembered a past me and made espresso Easy peasy
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Sep 3, 2020 05:01
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What the hell is wrong with your plumbing that a French press slurry of gorunds and water is Gunna hurt it?
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Sep 8, 2020 07:54
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excellent bird guy posted:Ok thanks, I'll keep flushing it. It means I have to clean the toilet a lot more for obvious reasons. It was meant in general to the thread than to your question specifically. But yeah your hotel toilet should be just fine.
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Sep 8, 2020 09:09
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