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Arcsquad12 posted:So did you or did you not inadvertently nuke Hopeville? Let's just say that sometimes mail bring bad news
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I followed that "fear and loathing" installation guide (omitting the mods I have no interest in like ENB and hi-res packs and what have you) and after some quick testing the game seems a lot more stable than the installs ive slapped together. Right enough that's before I stuff a bunch of quest mods in there, but still. I might be finally about to replay this bad boy...
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Feb 21, 2018 00:23
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Garrand posted:Ugh, I'm really trying to get through at least one playthrough of FO4 but it's just so tedious and this is making me really want to reinstall. Same, except I'm playing Fallout Tactics and just beat New Vegas last Thursday and didn't uninstall it. I should probably switch to turn-based combat and see if it makes the game less frustrating; I have a lot to experience still w/ New Vegas, but I also want to wait a while so I don't get sick of the game and end up not touching it for years.
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Feb 21, 2018 00:27
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2house2fly posted:I followed that "fear and loathing" installation guide (omitting the mods I have no interest in like ENB and hi-res packs and what have you) and after some quick testing the game seems a lot more stable than the installs ive slapped together. Right enough that's before I stuff a bunch of quest mods in there, but still. I might be finally about to replay this bad boy... Even if you're not using ENB I'd recommend downloading the ENBoost portion just to resolve memory crashes. You will get them even with the 4GB patcher if you don't have ENBoost on.
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Feb 21, 2018 00:29
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Leroy Dennui posted:Same, except I'm playing Fallout Tactics and just beat New Vegas last Thursday and didn't uninstall it. I should probably switch to turn-based combat and see if it makes the game less frustrating; I have a lot to experience still w/ New Vegas, but I also want to wait a while so I don't get sick of the game and end up not touching it for years. You can switch from turn based to real time at the tap of a button. I recommend running trivial fights and moving around in real time, and switching to full turn based when things get messy.
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Feb 21, 2018 00:30
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Arcsquad12 posted:Even if you're not using ENB I'd recommend downloading the ENBoost portion just to resolve memory crashes. You will get them even with the 4GB patcher if you don't have ENBoost on. I'll check that out. I've never understood why it can be upgraded to use 4gb RAM but no more
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Feb 21, 2018 00:43
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2house2fly posted:I'll check that out. I've never understood why it can be upgraded to use 4gb RAM but no more 32bit engine limitations. The game was originally capped at 2gb because PS3 and Xbox 360 limited them even further, and it was only slightly raised for the PC release. The uncapped version at 4GB is better but it doesn't resolve the memory leak problem that slowly swallows up your RAM. The ENBoost program basically makes a large pool of paged memory based on your PC's total RAM and feeds it into the game as it leaks out to prevent crashing. If you played nonstop for hours and hours and hours it would probably still crash eventually, but the odds of it being a memory crash and not a result of something else are extremely low at that point. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Feb 21, 2018 |
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Feb 21, 2018 00:48
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ThaumPenguin posted:I know all that, it just still feels so weird to me that it's all so recent I think it's a pretty implausible/inane story. A bunch of robots drag a mob of primitive tribals into Vegas and train them in over the top theatrical caricatures of Old Vegas. It's only been a couple years and they all take to it swimmingly. Benny spent most of his life as a spear toting tribal, but he never breaks his new persona even when under extreme stress or near death. It's a weak story bandage to justify having the goofy casino cultures, and I kinda try to forget about it in my head canon. 
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Feb 21, 2018 05:39
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Fintilgin posted:It's only been a couple years and they all take to it swimmingly. Benny spent most of his life as a spear toting tribal, but he never breaks his new persona even when under extreme stress or near death. Maybe the ones you see on the strip were the few who were most cooperative or talented, imagine a bunch of securitron robots holding auditions with these terrified tribals
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Feb 21, 2018 08:17
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Not all tribes are created equal, either. The tribes you see in Zion were children carefully guided along by a guy in a cave to not die in an otherwise pretty empty world, whereas even before House the mojave still has its share of society. Driver Nephi & co are probably a better idea of mojave tribals (i.e drug-addicted raiders in combat armor and vaults)
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Feb 21, 2018 08:27
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While we're talking about how to make lesser Fallout games playable, any suggestions for Tactics? It's the only Fallout game I haven't played and I started it but the gameplay feels kinda miserable.
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Feb 21, 2018 08:42
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I vaguely recall someone in-game saying Nephi was a New Canaanite who made it all the way to Vegas and became a crazy person. Or maybe I invented that in my head.
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Feb 21, 2018 08:46
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DeathChicken posted:I vaguely recall someone in-game saying Nephi was a New Canaanite who made it all the way to Vegas and became a crazy person. Or maybe I invented that in my head. No, that is correct, but pretty much all interactions related to that background have been cut from the game. Even the name draws from Mormon tradition IIRC.
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Feb 21, 2018 08:48
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There’s a dude in the aeroplane park that has dummied out dialogue that talks about driver nephi. I think he’s a medic?
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Feb 21, 2018 09:59
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The ghoul Follower in the aerospace park, yeah. House mentions that his long-term plan is to get his own space program up and running, and that seems backed up by the pre-war history of REPCONN's aggressive acquisition by RobCo and the money sunk into the rocketry programs. I figured his long-term plan is to more or less pick up where he left off before the war; get a space program functional enough to get humanity the hell off the planet before it's rendered completely uninhabitable and try again on some other habitable planet. (That'd make a fun Alpha Centauri faction)
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Feb 21, 2018 10:07
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The Fallout world isn't particularly uninhabitable though. Hell, the resources you'd need to spend on a competent space program and the subsequent terraforming of a new planet could easily be used to rebuild a lot of the lost infrastructure and keep the dangerous Wasteland critters at bay. Which I suppose is a roundabout way of saying that House is a selfish prick who prioritises prestige over the well-being of his fellow humans.
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Feb 21, 2018 11:48
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Inescapable Duck posted:House mentions that his long-term plan is to get his own space program up and running Arcsquad12 posted:32bit engine limitations. The game was originally capped at 2gb because PS3 and Xbox 360 limited them even further, and it was only slightly raised for the PC release. The uncapped version at 4GB is better but it doesn't resolve the memory leak problem that slowly swallows up your RAM. Also the engine has it's problems, but memory leaks shouldn't be one of them. Though that can happen if you have some really lovely scripts from mods going wild. In vanilla and as long you don't have mods that for example add extra NPCs (which are RAM resource hogs for the engine), you'd be unlikely to even ever need more then the standard non /largeaddressaware 2GB of RAM. But even it did, ENBBoost does nothing for your system RAM. It's thing that can help the engine deal with video RAM in a better way. But honestly, that's only something that you want to look if you're using lots of high-res textures. If you don't have that it won't hurt, but in all probably won't actually do anything for you. Raygereio fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Feb 21, 2018 |
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Feb 21, 2018 12:17
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Samuel Clemens posted:The Fallout world isn't particularly uninhabitable though. Hell, the resources you'd need to spend on a competent space program and the subsequent terraforming of a new planet could easily be used to rebuild a lot of the lost infrastructure and keep the dangerous Wasteland critters at bay. The Fallout world is full of monsters, mutants, radiation and rogue robots, though. Terraforming a planet would be a way more safe and stable existence than everyday survival in the Wasteland.
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Feb 21, 2018 13:08
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2house2fly posted:I'll check that out. I've never understood why it can be upgraded to use 4gb RAM but no more Worth noting that for me at least ENBoost makes the game noticeably stutter more and be more crash happy, for reasons unknown to me. Like someone above said I'd only say to use it if you were using texture mods and the like, but see how stable it is for you first.
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Feb 21, 2018 13:45
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Raygereio posted:But even it did, ENBBoost does nothing for your system RAM. It's thing that can help the engine deal with video RAM in a better way. But honestly, that's only something that you want to look if you're using lots of high-res textures. If you don't have that it won't hurt, but in all probably won't actually do anything for you. I'm only speaking from experience, but I used to get guaranteed crashes when going from freeside to the atomic wrangler where I got the "out of memory!" message, regardless of texture mods being used. Even after using large address aware it would still happen. ENBoost doesn't let the game use more than 4 gigs of Ram, but it did resolve my memory crashes, so I will stand by it being helpful if such problems occur.
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Feb 21, 2018 15:16
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Samuel Clemens posted:The Fallout world isn't particularly uninhabitable though. Hell, the resources you'd need to spend on a competent space program and the subsequent terraforming of a new planet could easily be used to rebuild a lot of the lost infrastructure and keep the dangerous Wasteland critters at bay. Yeah, more specifically it's uninhabitable for him. He wants a world identical to his old one, just with him on top. He doesn't want vault cities, two-headed cows, bipedal geckos and mutant populations, and he most certainly doesn't want a world rescued by GECK rather than Robco. It's no guarantee that his space mission would ever be a success considering the level of nostalgia he's seeking.
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Feb 21, 2018 15:22
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I'm not really a fan of laying all hope in developing interstellar travel either, it feels too much like pie in the sky futurism, although technically there is direct evidence that interstellar travel is viable and there's life on other planets. But hey, it's a hobby. Something to shoot for and something build up to. I'm assuming that House knows he has to build a real society in order to be able to work towards that. It's better than manifest destiny, at least. Just so long as he doesn't pin all his hopes on a wooden rocket or something like that. House doesn't really seem all that dominated by nostalgia when you talk to him. He liked the spirit of old Vegas, found tribes that seemed to still have the spirit he was looking for, and just set them up with casinos and nice clothes, and they took it from there. I don't think he gave an extensive series of elocution lessons to get them up to spec. The old world flavor is just part of the game, not House's long-term wide-ranging schemes. You see plenty of it even where there isn't any influence from House.
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Feb 21, 2018 17:33
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So, I've been watching Westworld and it gave me that New Vegas itch again. I want to try a Man in Black/Frumentarii build, and for main skills I'm thinking Small Guns/Explosives/Survival. I want to gently caress over the NCR with quests and infiltration though, not just attacking bases like a lunatic, so I could switch one of those out for Speech or Barter. Any advice here?
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Feb 21, 2018 18:01
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does the Fight the Power perk have any dialogue checks like Sneering Imperialist does?
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Feb 21, 2018 18:53
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:So, I've been watching Westworld and it gave me that New Vegas itch again. I want to try a Man in Black/Frumentarii build, and for main skills I'm thinking Small Guns/Explosives/Survival. I want to gently caress over the NCR with quests and infiltration though, not just attacking bases like a lunatic, so I could switch one of those out for Speech or Barter. Max stealth, so you can slit their throats without them knowing you were there. 
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Feb 21, 2018 19:15
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All of a sudden the NCR army gets really bad at keeping pins in grenades for some reason.
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Feb 21, 2018 19:35
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Arcsquad12 posted:32bit engine limitations. The game was originally capped at 2gb because PS3 and Xbox 360 limited them even further, and it was only slightly raised for the PC release. The uncapped version at 4GB is better but it doesn't resolve the memory leak problem that slowly swallows up your RAM. The ENBoost program basically makes a large pool of paged memory based on your PC's total RAM and feeds it into the game as it leaks out to prevent crashing. Would you say that the program uses ram as tar to plug a ram-hole?
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Feb 21, 2018 19:40
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Basically, unless you're making a joke that is going over my head. It drip feeds memory to counteract memory loss when using large texture packs
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Feb 21, 2018 20:20
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JawKnee posted:does the Fight the Power perk have any dialogue checks like Sneering Imperialist does? Sadly no. You'll have to come up with your own witty one-liners to stick it to the Man.
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Feb 21, 2018 22:31
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Samuel Clemens posted:Sadly no. You'll have to come up with your own witty one-liners to stick it to the Man. TERRIBLE OVERSIGHT. Although since it's a DLC perk added by Honest Hearts, there's not a whole lot they could have done.
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Feb 21, 2018 22:49
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You know what would have completed the western aesthetic? Mutated horses. Not even metacritic could have withheld their bonus if the game let you gunsling from atop an eight legged ragged looking horse skittering through the wastes with a spider-like gait.
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Feb 28, 2018 12:22
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Rideable ants.
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Feb 28, 2018 15:20
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Avellone said that horses died out. Still, I think a Noah's Ark Vault of mutated animals would have been mint.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:03
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Arcsquad12 posted:Avellone said that horses died out. But then we wouldn't have the cyber-gorillas that fallout 4 introduced to the lore.
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Feb 28, 2018 17:17
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I always thought that Fallout should go for mutated huge dogs as horse-like creatures. But really, I just want an excuse for more dogs.
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Feb 28, 2018 18:22
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Enough megafauna survived and were created by the apocalypse that there's gotta be something you could put a saddle on. Even just sitting on a brahmin directly if you have to, and from there you could breed them for speed and stamina. Or maybe they could figure out a way to ride those robo-scorpions from the Big Empty. It's weird that everyone's just hoofing it everywhere and carrying everything on their backs when for at least 4,000 years we've had carts. There's even a bunch of cars lying around to salvage wheels from.
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Feb 28, 2018 19:45
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SlothfulCobra posted:It's weird that everyone's just hoofing it everywhere and carrying everything on their backs when for at least 4,000 years we've had carts. There's even a bunch of cars lying around to salvage wheels from. It's pretty clear brahmin are used to haul around caravans made out of old truck flatbeds or whatever. I'm pretty sure we just don't see any in action because of the difficulty in animating vehicles in Bethesda's engine. 
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Feb 28, 2018 20:27
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SlothfulCobra posted:It's weird that everyone's just hoofing it everywhere and carrying everything on their backs when for at least 4,000 years we've had carts. There's even a bunch of cars lying around to salvage wheels from. Wouldn't most of the roads you see in fallout completely wreck a jury-rigged axel?
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Feb 28, 2018 20:37
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To be fair the NCR does use trucks in their military. They just don't actually move on the game due to limitations. The gun merchant at 188 sells from out of her truck for example
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Paracelsus posted:Wouldn't most of the roads you see in fallout completely wreck a jury-rigged axel? Not if you're hovering. Mr. Handy and Eyebots exist and they're basically able to hover indefinitely, it's not much of a stretch to think cars could do the same thing. I mean real life programming limits probably forbade it (just like mutant horses, unfortunately), but hover cars would fit in with established Fallout lore.
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