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The courier that really clicked for me was my aging pro-NCR John Wayne run. I tried to play something between his Rooster Cogburn, and his "Big Glory" WW2 characters. I stayed loyal to my country, but tried to keep it on the right path. I also didn't take poo poo from anyone. Except Raul, my unfaithful manservant. I don't want to get too fanfic here, but instead explain why this is my favorite game of all time. I wanted to play a old man who'd been in battle his entire life, and was rapidly falling apart. I wanted to feel like each summit climbed was a challenge. I wanted to tell people to eat a bag of poo poo when they were wasting my time, or trying to wrong something I cared about. For the most part New Vegas never let me down. I rarely felt railroaded into choosing something other than what I felt my character would naturally do, and was often surprised by the options presented to me. That's a great game. There are things I'd love to have seen done better (low intelligence dialogue, bigger/better set pieces), but I understand the financial/time limitations of game development. I'm more pleased with this game than any other, and New Vegas will always be The Grand Adventure In The Mojave to me. I hope Obsidian is given the opportunity to do another, and that if/when Bethesda does the next game they take a long hard look at what Obsidian did right. Akalies fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Sep 27, 2011 |
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Mozi posted:Does Interplay even employ anybody besides lawyers these days? I was under the impression they've only existed to fight over rights for the past few years. Chris Taylor (Fallout 1 Lead Designer), and Mark O'Green (Fallout 1/2 writer) are both working on the project. I wish them luck, but I really have my doubts about interplay producing anything of quality. I'm actually worried it'll end up weakening the brand again, leading us back to the lovely pre-FO3 days of crappy spinoffs (BOS) and underfunded games (FOT). Best case scenario (if the mmo actually ends up going ahead) is Bethesda accepts it's being made, and helps fund/guide it.
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Tewratomeh posted:Yeah, from what I hear the earlier Fallout games were turn-based and not as action-y as the modern ones, The first two were definitely slow as far as combat was concerned. Especially early on, where you'd be plinking away at a guy with a pipe rifle hoping to have enough AP to reach cover after critically missing every shot. Then his ten homeboys would take their turn. Then all the junkies would, one at a time, slowly shuffle away from the fight. Now I feel the need to replay those.
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Ddraig posted:Queen and a 10? Double down on that motherfucker Luck must be such a bitch to balance. Of course someone who pumps their special up to the maximum js going to want to see super-human returns on gambling, it's just what you'd expect. But that breaks the game's entire economy, and there's not a lot you can do about it. Sure the casinos have limits, but if you set those too low it becomes pointless and you penalize people who gamble legitimately. I do love most of what new Vegas introduced. Survival isn't the best option, but it has a ton of cool uniques related to it. It's far more useful than outdoorsman from the first two. Same with the consolidation of gun types, it makes far more sense now. Speaking of guns and luck, am I the only one who'd like to see item degradation scrapped and replaced with a more detailed critical hit/failure system? That's something I sincerely miss from the first game. At least Raul doesn't pull a Sulik and SMG me in the back.
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Wolfsheim posted:Yeah, I hate the "the next fallout should be set in ____" discussion, too. Its basically just fallout fanfiction. What else are we supposed to discuss? Most of the talk in this thread was redundant long ago, even in the old thread. Now that shop (  ) has completely closed on New Vegas it seems completely legit to speculate on the inevitable next game.I'm hoping for a radical departure myself, assuming the team behind it is competent. I don't want them to ditch the iconic Fallout stuff or even America as a setting, but there is still an entire country to explore and populate. The truth is I don't have a lot of confidence in Bethesda to integrate Fallout to Hawaii or Florida, but I'd love to see the insanity that's going on over there. The Commonwealth could be awesome too, but a straight skip to replicant style androids from the clunky Mr. Gutsies would be a hard sale.
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I'm about to start my second proper run-through, and play Lonesome Road for the first time. It came out right after I finished my first run, but I decided to hold off simply because I knew someday I'd want another adventure in the Mojave and it would be awesome to have something left to uncover.  I have new content for my favorite game of all time.I hate that Zenimax seems to have shafted Obsidian over a single metacritic point, but I too still hope they can reconcile and give us an Fallout 4.5.
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khy posted:I gave Cass a modded Hunting Shotgun and Lever Action shotgun, and TONS of 12/20 gauge ammo. No clue, but companions can have weapons shot out of their hands, which is really lovely if you give them one of your cool unique ones. They can use consoled in items no problem however.
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Well I am now the rear end in a top hat, but back to the topic of Fallout 4's location - I'd really like to see the eastern side of Legion territory. What's going on over there? Are they facing any other fronts? What do they look like post-Ceaser? Plenty of opportunity for new threats that aren't the Enclave/BoS which are both fairly played out at this point, but you could still arguably justify appearances by both to serve up some fan-service. Also I hope Bethesda follows Obsidian's lead, and doesn't just serve up one faction as the winner this time. The fact that there is no 'clear-cut' good guy in New Vegas was probably my favorite thing about it. I didn't care for the BoS in Fallout 3, but was forced to accept them as the best choice since they were my only one. Fallout is at it's best when everyone is a scheming rear end in a top hat using you for their own ends. Remember First Citizen Lynette from Fallout 2? There was a character I absolutely wanted to force feed a few rounds from my SMG, but was forced to work with if I wanted to maintain access to one of the most important cities in the game. Akalies fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 30, 2012 |
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Wolfsheim posted:Fallout 3: meaningful choices that matter. Haha - I completely forgot about that. Probably because I never did it, even in my psychopath run-through. What a non-option. They may as well have made it a "quit to desktop" dialogue option. Mirthless posted:edit: i forgot, there is technically a fourth town flying an NCR banner, but because the NCR aren't policing it the only person left is the bartender and most of the town was nuked trying to hold the hoover dam by NCR soldiers, so it's pretty safe to call that one a lost cause Hey man, don't leave out Kowalski. If you screw with that memorial he might get slightly upset at you! Proof of the NCR's continued success!
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Davos posted:The only problem I still really have with the Legion is Caesar's ban on more advanced tech. While I understand a lot of it, such as banning alcohol and chems as well as more advanced weaponry that is still outside their understanding, it just seems foolish to throw away all pre-war knowledge of things like medicince or physics just in order to start anew. I like to think their abandonment of medicine is temporary. Caeser clearly has no problem taking advantage of it himself. If you introduce medicine into a war you're faced with moral issues that can cause lots of subtle problems: Are you morally responsible for taking care of the survivors from the opposition? What do you do with your own survivors who may be amputees, and now worthless as fodder or even labor? If people start asking these questions they might start asking questions about the misogyny, child slaves, etc. Turning down the securitron army is pretty dense however, and I'd love to see that justified. Even if he didn't use them for the current conflict, it seems like they'd be infinitely useful later on. Hell, he could have just had them roll south and attack the NCR directly - weakening them up for a post-game invasion.
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more friedman units posted:What about the Pacific Northwest? That would open up very different geography: recovering forests, mountains, iconic cities with ports... Absolutely. Looking back on it I really enjoyed the change in setting that Fallout 3 brought, and only felt resentment towards it simply because I thought we'd never get another game set on the west coast. I'm willing to try anywhere new, but I sincerely hope they continue to develop the Legion since it felt like they were so robbed by the limited development time of New Vegas. Fallout 3's set-pieces were far superior to those in New Vegas in my opinion. They may have fumbled the execution a lot (a city built around an live nuke), but they certainly felt rewarding. The elevator ride, and subsequent view from Washington Monument were far superior to uhh... walking up to the Yangtze Memorial and finding some radscorpions. New Vegas is my favorite game of all time mind you, but the Legion not getting developed more and the weak set-pieces were it's biggest flaws. Pope Guilty posted:Am I the only one who didn't like how Fallout 3 did the DC interior? It's a confusing maze of tiny open areas linked by samey sewer/subway tunnels. It's nigh impossible to navigate and every area looks more or less like every other area except a handful of special areas like the Mall. I thought the DC interior was terrible. It's interesting how my opinion of it has changed over time. These days I absolutely agree with you, but I was very enamored with it all my first time through. I'm willing to give it a pass since it was Bethesda's first shot at it, but I doubt I'd have very much fun if they repeated that formula. Except the subways/tunnels. That poo poo was simply unacceptable in it's tedium. Akalies fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Jul 31, 2012 |
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Lord Lambeth posted:The thing about those setpieces is that they're only good once. The elevator ride, liberty prime etc. were totally ignored by me in every playthrough other than the first. I agree completely, and I think the Strip itself would have been a great alternative. If it had been more livelier, not split into multiple cells, and had a bit more attention to detail I think it could have been one of the best areas in a video game ever. Two of those problems were unfortunately hardware limitations (consoles  ), and the third probably due to development time. As it was I was slightly disappointed when I got there after the build-up. 99% of the game for me is outside of The Strip, the single biggest set-piece in New Vegas.Furism posted:Do we know if there are more DLCs in the work (or to the contrary, that they are done with that) ? Seems like there is still money to be made. A Legion DLC for instance. Obsidian closed up shop on New Vegas after G.R.A., which is too bad. I'd buy a Legion dlc in a heart-beat. At least J.E. Sawyer is still supporting it in a sense through his mod, which I'm extremely grateful for and promise to play one of these days. Akalies fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Jul 31, 2012 |
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The White Dragon posted:It's just a consequence of the engine and skins, though, I'm sure. Why make a bustling city with refurbished buildings and paved streets when you can use all the existing assets, bombed-out worthless pieces of poo poo with busted-up roads, reskin a couple signs and design one or two new ones? Sigh. I'm being an Obsidian apologist here, but New Vegas had roughly a year of development time compared to Fallout 3's roughly four years. I think Obsidian's new assets and engine tweaks are pretty phenomenal with that in mind. Davos posted:Been playing through Honest Hearts, and after reading some of the survivalist stuff I got to thinking... This is a really great point. If we're all still (deluding ourselves into) hoping for another Obsidian Fallout despite the entire metacritic debacle I think it'd be brilliant for both developers to make their own unique spins on the games. Most of Fallout 3's best stories were in the form of ambiance rather than dialogue. Akalies fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Jul 31, 2012 |
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I'm struggling through my Energy Weapons run. It's not that the guns aren't plentiful or strong enough: I got hold of a GRA Laser Pistol + sights mod in Goodsprings, and it's been doing very well by me up-to Primm. It's just, man, I feel myself missing the survivalist's rifle, lucky, a light shining, maria, that gun, etc, etc, etc. I remember using all of those guns (and a ton more) throughout my John Wayne run, and loving their unique quirks. I actually started to roll another NCR loving cowboy, but I had to stop myself since I need to try something new. It's funny that when I think of iconic weapons in the series now a good 50% of them are 'plain' guns from New Vegas, and the rest are things like the traditional power fist/plasma rifle/gauss rifle. I hope I run into e.w. a soon that gives me the same visceral satisfaction dinner bell did. MonkeyforaHead posted:I kind of miss my Wayward Mr. Handy now. Sometimes this game is at it's best when it decides to break.
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Upmarket Mango posted:I hope the Pipboy game menu gets the boot in the next Fallout. It's terribly clunky and I'm not so much a nerd that I actually really love the concept of the Pipboy menu, even if it is flawed. I don't think the fact that it's tied to an in-game item is the issue so much as Bethesda just sucks at making user interfaces, and is now trying to make their already cumbersome interfaces console compatible. Look at any mod list for Bethesda's AAA titles and I guarantee you there will be a highly recommended UI fix in there somewhere. They really should hire some of the people responsible for the SkyUI or DarnUI mods - those guys have some done some pretty amazing work.
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Teen Hero Greg posted:This is the Gun Runners' Arsenal's most evil trick. Mods added by GRA only work on (GRA) weapons, which are otherwise identical. Can anyone suggest a mod that gets rid of this problem? I remember there being a few, but I can't find anything on nexus. Edit: Gun Runners Arsenal Merged. Lord knows what I was searching for before. Akalies fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Aug 4, 2012 |
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Spoke Lee posted:I see both games are in sale I really wanted to get one of them. Should I just get new Vegas? Or should I get both? Do I need one to play the other story wise? What do you guys recommend? All of the advice you've gotten so far has been pretty spot on. Fallout 3 is a very good game, but you'll likely find it very frustrating to go back to it after New Vegas. Be warned that they're both incredible time-sinks - I've probably spent a couple hundred hours between the two and their DLC. You'll notice a pretty different style in tone between the two. Fallout 3 takes place on the east coast, and acts as sort of a 'soft reboot' of the series. New Vegas (obviously set in the west) is more like a direct sequel to Fallout 1/2. Even though they share the same cannon/engine/assets/gameplay they're very different games. If you end up digging New Vegas make sure to get the DLC before you finish up the game - all together they form a pretty awesome 'complimentary' story that enhance the main quest. Fallout 3's DLC is mostly trash, with the exceptions of The Pitt and Point Lookout. All of them have some pretty awesome items if you're into that sort of thing.
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khwarezm posted:Yeah I think that's evident as well in the base game, my point was more how HH takes a fairly dramatic departure from the base game generally but the other DLC in particular from that theme. You know, I think for fallout 4 it would be interesting if they developed the themes along the lines of Honest Hearts and set it somewhere in the mid-west, I know the tribal stuff doesn't appeal to everyone but its a genuinely interesting how they've developed the series such that primitive tribals with few pre-war ties could hold the key to the future. Hallelujah. The tribals were one of my favorite parts of Fallout 2, and I've sort of accepted that everyone else hated them so they got toned down. Sulik clearly had a pretty rich heritage and belief system driving him. It's hard to believe that sort of thing faded away after a few generations in the NCR. I would have loved to have seen more of that in game. We got the awesome Honest Hearts, but it wasn't no Grampy Bone. At this point I just assume the N.C.R. started a blanket trading program with the California tribals and called it a day. Edit: Just to throw a few words of defense out to Honest Hearts. I loved the buff to the survival skill, and the new low-tech crafting options. Stalking the survivalist, and finding peaks to get the temporary buff were a major part of the gameplay. The problem is things like the craftable armor are easily outclassed by other items you can simply go pick-up. Akalies fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Aug 6, 2012 |
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victrix posted:Seeing tribal concepts subverted by technology is more interesting, though I can't think of too many examples of that in NV beyond 'rear end in a top hat raiders with laser guns addicted to drugs', which is sort of meh. Feels like more of the evil civ trope. There was a lot more of this planned in Van Buren which would have given us a more early look at the legion, AND the Twin Mothers tribe who had their own "living goddess." It's been a while since I've read up on it, but it sounded pretty exciting. Which reminds me, where is religion in New Vegas (excluding honest hearts?) I can't think of any examples of it in the game, which is surprising considering how great of an excuse it was for both the Roman Empire and Manifest Destiny. Edit: Oh poo poo, I forgot all about the Bright Brotherhood. Still I'm surprised none of the major factions had a prominent faith. Even The Master had the Children of the Cathedral. Akalies fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Aug 6, 2012 |
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Bilal posted:Jet is canonically a liquid. If you choose to have sex with the Bishop daughter in New Reno in FO2, she invites you to suck the Jet out of her mouth. This means nothing. Smoke or vapor can easily be sucked or blown into another person's mouth. 
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Sigh. NCRCF is hostile to me on this run for some reason, and I purposely avoided killing any gangers/doing Ghost Town Gunfight. The powder gangers weren't even in my reputation list until I tried fixing it by consoling in some karma and removing infamy. I'm now sitting at idolized and they're still hostile. Anyone have any ideas?
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Wolfsheim posted:Yeah, but it's not so much the mechanics of Dead Money letting you take the gold bars as it is an exploit in the crappy Gamebryo engine. I did enjoy the guy getting upset that high STR characters got an advantage, because an extra 4 STR is, what, one extra gold bar? Whoo! And the best part is that Dead Money gives you some of the best rewards in the game anyway - the holorifle, vending machine, a awesome perk for a companion, a sweet remote base, and a ton of other cool poo poo. Any character that leaves Dead Money is far more wealthy than when they went in. I can get if people didn't like the gameplay (I thought the radios were repetitive, but loved everything else), but bitching about the gold is ludicrous. Dean was the best part of Dead Money. He's a repugnant, vile, worthless "person" who starts plotting to kill you the second you show him up in the slightest. Suddenly you're faced with a challenge that no amount of jedi mindtrickery (100 speech) will solve. 
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OldMemes posted:Was there meant to be a conversation at the end of Operation Anchorage? I guess it didn't load for me, since the Outcasts just decided to start killing each other for no apparent reason. I didn't really care, since I just wanted to take my loot and leave that bunker and never return - the feeling that most of the Fallout 3 DLC left me with. Your game decided to spare you this. I'd consider that a feature. Edit: gently caress, I forgot how much of a low-effort expansion Operation Anchorage was. Boring gameplay, a let-down version of the Gauss rifle, and some stupid pallete-swap loot. The stealth suit was ok, but too game breaking for my tastes. Akalies fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Aug 11, 2012 |
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If you haven't gone through The Pitt/Point Lookout you at least have those to look forward to. They have some pretty high points. I wouldn't say they're as good as NV's dlc, but they're probably up there with some of the best that FO3 has to offer. (Sometimes annoying gameplay aside.) I was thinking about doing a FO3 run, but I just ran into clips of MacCready on youtube. Sure I could download one of those mods that lets you kill the turd, but then I'd have to play a evil character, and the evil options in the game are just "I hate living, so I'll gently caress everyone! gently caress you dad!" I wonder if anyone has made a mod that excises Little Lamplight from the game completely.
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Teen Hero Greg posted:If you didn't have shotgun surgeon yet you should have used slugs. I feel pity for you. Coin-shot is the most satisfying ammunition in the game. You can occasionally notice the coins leaving the barrel of your favorite boom-stick, and you have a chance to recover some of them on the corpses of your enemies. G.R.A. made them pretty redundant however, especially when you consider their incredibly high trade value. Anyone who hasn't done it should seriously consider a shotgun-nut run with some consoled in Denarii - it's incredibly satisfying with Stay Back/Shotgun Surgeon. My scatter-gun John Wayne run is still my favorite. It'd probably be even better now that we have Incendiary/EMP rounds.
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thehumandignity posted:To be fair, it was a really lovely city that offered absolutely nothing Rivet City didn't except extra radiation and the chance of being annihilated in a nuclear explosion, It was awesome the first time you entered - stumbling past ruins outside of the Vault, running into Sheriff Simms who was instinctively hostile towards you, finding a huge Atomic Bomb at the heart of it, and even being given the moral choice between Simms and Burke. It's seemingly a decent start to a Fallout game - clearly an homage to Junktown. Then you start thinking about it. Why would anyone build a town around a loving atomic bomb? How was it laid out like this with no working power equipment? What the gently caress do they trade for food and water? Then you start thinking these same questions about every other city you run into. Really, gently caress Megaton. The best NPC (Moira) is still available after you destroy it, and is arguably more entertaining ghoulified anyway. The original games didn't show you a lot of crops either, but these were easily waived away by being "off screen." You can't do that in a 3D-open world game.
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Asehujiko posted:What kind of weapons should I take with me into Honest Hearts? I usually carry an LMG in normal combat, a sniper rifle for silent kills, an AMR and a hunting shotgun if something absolutely needs to die in a single hit at long/short range and a shovel. Some .45 and 12.7mm ammo. You'll get some awesome weapons at some point that use them. Outside of that chems are a bit harder to come by in HH. Happy Noodle Boy posted:You can't take anything with you to HH. There's a weight limit, but you can take whatever you want in.
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Going through Dead Money on my level 12 energy weapons character. Lots of fun, but I forgot how brutally high some of the skill checks are. There are a lot of magazines around, but it seems like a lot of the important checks are a one-time only sort of deal. Can't wait to murder the poo poo out of Dean, again.Meaty Ore posted:Except you can't get hold of .45 ammo outside of HH, if I recall correctly. But by all means, gather lots of 12.7mm ammo. You're absolutely right about the .45 ammo. It does appear in the Mojave after you finish HH. Sorry about that. 12.7mm is essential however. Inudeku posted:What do you guys think about taking the Explorer perk right at level 20 on a first ever playthru? I'd avoid it personally, but I enjoy wandering aimlessly and just finding cool poo poo. The one time I took it (early 40s I believe,) I noticed just how much I'd missed. It felt like I was cheating myself out of discovering those locations, and I ended up reloading.
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alex314 posted:Boone did One of my favorite things about this game is the companions. When the voice actors were first announced I figured I'd do every run with Raul simply because of Danny Trejo. Surprisingly Raul is one of my least favorite of the companions - simply because he doesn't seem as tied to the story as Boone, Arcade, Cass, or even Veronica. Your actions sincerely impact them, and will continue to do so for the rest of their lives. To continue picking on Fallout 3 - none of the companions really matter. Jericho, Charon, Clover, Paladin Cross? All meat bags that exist simply to shoot poo poo with you. Butch and Fawkes are slightly more complicated and interesting, but they still don't have a lot going on to make them more than caricatures. When you take out Caesar with Boone it really seems like you've made a difference for him, even if the rest of the Mojave seems to ignore it. This is why I really wish we'd gotten Ulysses as a legion npc - if he was done well enough it would have helped make the Legion a lot more sympathetic, even without more development towards Legion specific content.
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It's too bad that Obsidian already pulled the mute npc card with Christine in Dead Money. After mentioning how a good Legion companion could add some depth to them I thought modding in a Legion scout that was mute might be pretty cool, but that would just be derivative of Christine's (awesome) conversation options. I'm pretty adverse to mods with fan recorded dialogue as every bit of it I've ever heard has come across as atrocious. A robot wouldn't work for obvious reasons. A dog couldn't really offer any new information or personality. Hum. Epi Lepi posted:I always used Charon in FO3 because he's supposed to be just a meat bag who shoots poo poo since he's like a brainwashed slave or something. I guess Clover is the same way but I never found her. It was weird that Jericho and Paladin Cross didn't really have characters to them. See I get that, but my problem is they have zero content outside of their recruitment. Who brainwashed Charon, and for what purpose? What's the deal with Clover? None of this is ever explored, and so their limited back stories merely act as excuses to give you a companion. They don't give a poo poo what you do, or why you're doing it. They just want to follow you... uh because you paid for them. Clover came across as some developer's hosed up wet dream. "Hey guys, we should let the player own a Asian sex slave who's all kinky and poo poo." Charon was actually pretty intriguing. Here's a bad-rear end ghoul that has some really alien value system, but it's only mentioned once (twice if you kill a good npc, and he goes hostile on you.)
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3Romeo posted:Is it possible to mod in a companion that affects SPECIAL stats? (I'm thinking of Fallout 2's Pariah dog here) I don't see why not, but I'd assume it would have to be in the form of a companion perk. The diversity of companion effects is pretty impressive, so I don't see why a follower perk couldn't affect your SPECIAL scores. The only problem I could foresee is setting a special stat to zero, if that's even possible, and breaking all sorts of crap.
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From that Rock Paper Shotgun article on The Strip Open a page back:quote:Fallout: New Vegas was a glitch-ridden, unwieldy beast of a game, but it’s a testament to the wonderful (and very Black-Isle) world Obsidian crafted that – in spite of rampant instability and a fiddly engine – it still stands as one of my absolute favorite games. Am I in the fringe here? I can't think of any major bugs I've suffered through, and I've been playing since launch. The only bugs I can remember in any of my games has been certain perks not working (In Shining Armor/Veronica's perk from DM), which were lovely but not "glitch-ridden". I'm sure there were others, but nothing memorable. It seems like any time a game journalist writes something about New Vegas they have to call it buggy, but never support their claims. Meanwhile Fallout 3, which is still a hot-mess of sound issues for me, gets a free pass.
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I've been playing through Fallout 3 for the first time since Mothership Zeta came out, and I feel the need to admit I'm actually having some fun in it. With mods the game is absolutely beautiful, and exploring is very rewarding on a visual level:   Unfortunately that’s sort of where the “rewarding” aspect of exploration ends. There is a lot of cool poo poo to see, but not a lot to take and make part of your character. The unique weapons rarely even have unique textures - instead mostly just offering a increase to damage/clip size, and they rarely have some a cool task associated with them. I’m using the unique gatling laser Vengeance right now, and it’s really just a gatling laser +2. No change in skin or behavior. Contrast that to the Survivalist’s Rifle with its ugly mismatched furniture, broken sight, and awesome backstory. That rifle was part of my character by the time I left Zion, a reward for doing something fun. Vengeance is just the same gun I could get anywhere, but with more damage. I got it because it was in a place I entered. Unfortunately most of the characters remain dull as hell, and the few interesting ones are painfully limited in how you can interact with them. For example I love Liam Neeson's James. The problem is James, while well voiced and very likable, doesn't have a lot to offer beyond being a plot-device. He spends the majority of the game missing, and when you finally find him you only have a few dialogue options with him. When he asks why you left the vault your only options are along the lines of "You left me, boo-hoo." No "Your leaving caused the Overseer to go on a rampage and kill Jonas, and come looking to do the same to me. Thanks a lot for that." A better game would have given you the opportunity to at least discuss (if not challenge) James' obsession with Project Purity. The escort mission where you return with him to Project Purity would have been a perfect time for this: James stops to catch his breath somewhere and you get the opportunity, as his child, to question some of his decisions. Imagine how cool it would have been to convince James he’d been a lovely father, and have his final moments spent trying to make amends rather than simply going out a hero. I could go on and on, but I’ll spare you. Fallout 3 is fun, but it’s not very rewarding. Space Racist posted:That's a bummer. Oh well, I can live without quick saves I suppose. Get yourself CASM (check the modding thread) and you really won't have to worry about it.
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Saint Sputnik posted:So any chatter on Fallout 4? I know I'm not the only one who started Skyrim and took in the view and immediately wanted FO4. Rumor is it's set in Boston, which will let them explore a few things mentioned in the lore, but I really wanted to stay in the western setting. See the Pacific Northwest maybe. If it's just places like The Institute or The Commonwealth I feel like we've pretty much seen that in OWB. Meh, that's about all we've heard so far. I'm guessing FO4 will be a next-gen title if they're just now doing location scouting. I really hated the entire android plot line in Fallout 3, and thought it was probably the least lore friendly thing introduced by the game. Maybe they can pull it off, but honestly I don't want to see technology much past that of the enclave. There's a point where you stop being "retro-scifi," and unless it's carefully handled The Institute could easily pass that point. I'm really hoping Bethesda took some notes from New Vegas, but who knows how they feel about it. I'm a little worried they'd be bitter about jerks like me talking about how superior Obsidian's slapped together game is compared to their epic AAA title. I hope at the very least they keep in things like the diverse crafting, iron sights, and mod kits. A good story with branching plots would be nice too, but I'm not really expecting it after Skyrim. Gynovore posted:They had better include the Infinite Corridor. Hell yes.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:You have been assigned to track down renegade androids in the Midwest. You will discover that the androids have banded together with intentions of forming an underground society. The twist comes when you discover--not that you are an Android--but that the people you work for are part of the Enclave. They plan to use the androids for a standing army, which will be used to wipe out towns, wholesale. You must decide whether to help the Underground Robot Railroad etch out a peaceful existence, or enslave them to destroy civilization. If you help the Enclave power up the android army (with a solid-gold Bobblehead) your character is doomed to a stupid death post-game since they've been programed to destroy anyone born outside of the Enclave's bunkers including you. The new president of the Enclave, a robot voiced by Robin Williams, does thank you however. Akalies fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Aug 30, 2012 |
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