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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Cowcaster posted:

Counterpoint the entire FO3/FO:NV nexus community

Blame Bethesda's mod community on that.

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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Fallout 3 has Liam Neeson as your dad, therefore it cannot by any metric be bad. That said, New Vegas is still better.

Why do goons and gamers seem to have so much trouble with the concept "not as good as ≠ bad".

Why can't people think FO3 is bad? NMA over reacted and they judged before playing it, but that doesn't mean anyone else who thinks it was bad is just an NMA troll.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


I normally think the word "entitled" is thrown around way too much, but bitching at the lead designer of a game because one specific mod decided to put something you want in a difficult to reach(not really, but to you it is anyways) location is pretty much the perfect example of it, holy poo poo.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


People who complain that none of the options are all that good are kinda missing the point to be honest. Why yes, you do only have four options that each suck in their own way. That's how real problems work. A choice between the same faction in different clothes, or between an obviously good and an obviously bad faction is barely a choice at all, let alone an interesting one.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Ugh, jesus christ guys, Tetris keeps giving me all these weird shaped blocks and lets me stack them however I want, but it still tells me I lose if I don't stack them "correctly". Why would it give me all these different ways to stack the blocks if I can stack them in a way that makes me lose? It's bullshit I tell you!

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Bethesda's writing in FO3 varied from "What, are you loving kidding me?" to "That was kinda cool/funny, I guess". Obsidian's writing was much stronger throughout, with both a higher average level of writing competency and Obsidian's "bad" level of writing being right around Bethesda's "good" level. I think the thing that illustrates it best is how they dealt with sequence breaking. In Fallout 3 if you broke sequence and found your dad before the point in the plot you were supposed to the game just assumed you had seen the previous parts of the plot even though accidentally finding him while wandering was perfectly possible and actually a semi-common experience. New Vegas actually has NPCs respond differently during interactions with them depending on whether or not you met them when you were "supposed" to while following the main path, even though you have to go out of your way not to. It's a small thing, but it illustrates how much more consideration Obsidian put into their writing. If you're making an open world RPG and don't consider what will happen when players take advantage of the open world, you've failed at writing it effectively.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


The Big-MT.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


In my current game I killed House and am currently going on a drug fueled rampage through the casinos melting people with lasers and stealing everything that isn't nailed down. I vote that this becomes canon.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


War crimes still aren't okay even if you have the moral high ground in the reasons behind the overall conflict and feel really, really sorry afterwards. That's the entire point of the concept of war crimes, there are some things that are so far past the pale that no level of moral high ground beforehand can justify them. There's also the fact that the NCR troopers weren't robots running on targeting circuits that simply told them "if exiting Bitter Springs, then engage". Soldiers can choose to disobey orders, and the fact that they en masse chose following orders in a stupidly level of literalness over thinking "Hey, maybe they didn't mean we should kill children" shows that there's some serious issues with how the NCR trains its soldiers and the attitude it has towards it enemies.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Yasser Arafatwa posted:

It'd be more like wiping out Ku Klux Klan or Westboro Baptist Church ideology, really. Not every ideology is equal or deserves the same recognition or protection as others.

So it would be okay if I went out and started murdering the kids of KKK and Westboro Baptist Church members? Good to know.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


steinrokkan posted:

If all collateral and accidental damage to civilians was treated this way Rosevelt and Churchill would be amongst the worst war criminals of all times.

Correct, despite being better than the Axis, the Allies committed plenty of war crimes and the failure to convict anyone for acts like the bombings of Dresden or Nagano are a huge failure of the international justice system.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Yeah, pissing off the Legion may feel satisfying when you first do it, but that satisfaction is quickly replaced by annoyance/fear depending on how good/bad you are at the game.

EDIT: Also jesus gently caress, Dead Money with jsawyer.esp. I really want to get this over quickly.

A Fancy 400 lbs fucked around with this message at Mar 22, 2014 around 17:15

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Neurolimal posted:

I actually didn't know people hated the legion assassination squads so much. I loved them because I could loot their big dumb hammers and sell them for hefty amounts of caps between towns.

It's not so much hate as much as its "Really? Another one? You fuckers are persistent."

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Caufman posted:

The New Vegas Uncut series of mods restores some missing content into the game. I recommend this for any new playthrough.

Jsawyer is another popular balancing mod. I don't think it's necessary, but many enjoy it.

I've been playing with jsawyer this playthrough and I really like it. It makes the Villa part of Dead Money a bit more of a pain in the rear end with the severely lowered health, but I managed to finish without too much trouble even starting at level 15. Non-hardcore though.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Nobody Interesting posted:

Also it's dishing out too much exp. I'm gonna finish this at level 50

This is one of the things I like about jsawyer. It cuts the quest reward XP in the DLCs by 2/3 and lowers the level cap to 35 with all DLCs(which you have to have to use jsawyer anyways).

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


So I was just doing Old World Blues again, and I have a Q. Is there actually anything at the Hexcrete Archipelago or is it literally just a random fast travel point in the middle of nowhere?

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


So is my game being buggy or can you really not repair the Elite Riot Armor with the Advanced Riot Armor? If it's not a bug, I'll probably just whip up a mod to fix that myself, because that's dumb.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Nobody Interesting posted:

I think it's an oversight / bug / whatever. You can't do it unless you have Jury Rigging for some stupid reason.

Would love a mod to fix that.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/h...riotgearfix.esp

Quick and dirty. All three versions share the same repair list, so I just modified that instead of making a new one so it doesn't overwrite any changes to the actual armor another mod might make. That means you can repair a normal Riot Armor with Advanced now, but just don't be stupid and do that and you're good to go.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


They were saving that for the next DLC. I played this playthrough as Space rear end in a top hat, and nuked NCR and Legion. I normally don't nuke anyone so seeing the Long 15 and Dry Wells for the first time is cool. Especially the unique armors.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Mak0rz posted:

Dialog said it went to Primm, but where? It isn't in the Nash house where I found it.

Well that's where he should be, sounds like a glitch.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


Starhawk64 posted:

So I started an Energy Weapons run, and I'm not really feeling it. Energy weapons are powerful, but god they are so bland and boring. Guess I'll re-roll and use guns instead again.

I just realized that I don't think I've ever done a guns run. I've always done EW, explosives, melee or H2H. I should try guns sometime.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


I like using Elijah's Advanced LAER. You have to repair it a lot, especially with the mods, but it's a nice balance of single hit damage, firing speed. and range.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


MisterBibs posted:

* Am I the only one who naturally pronounces it Kai-sar, thanks to NV?

That's how it's supposed to be pronounced, we(modern English speakers) pronounce it differently in normal conversation because we generally base our Latin pronunciation on Church Latin rather than Vulgar or Classical Latin.

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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008


2house2fly posted:

For being able to save all the characters you'll need 85 speech, no need to boost your Barter or Explosives. High lockpick will let you scrounge a few more supplies though, so it's probably worth putting some points into that. Plus there's a couple of dialogue options that only unlock if you have 75 Lockpick and I always pick those purely for the novelty value. Other than that, yeah, boost the skills you like because there's options for everything in there. If your Intelligence is 5 then drink some booze and talk to the dumbest character you find for some bonus dialogue.

Oh: from the starting area head east and look at the doors along the north walls, one of them is a tiny room with a workbench in it that you can use to make a couple of weapon repair kits and recycle ammo. I'm not sure if there are any other workbenches in the DLC, that's the only one I remember finding.

There's a few, and a major room with one and TONS of components in the second half of the DLC.

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