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turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

J Bjelke-Postersen posted:

I was telling a cool story, thanks rear end in a top hat.


This would be a magnificent title for the thread!

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turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Dead Man Posting posted:

Put all SPECIAL points into charisma, and all skills for Barter.

Hey my main guy has 10 CHA and 100 Barter maxed first. Raul has ALL the shinning stuff he can get and ALL the bullets I can buy. Needless to say, when I reached Sierra Madre I felt violated.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Jerusalem posted:

So I just finished Vault 11.... :stare:

That was a great experience, I made a point of listening to the recording I found at the opening again as I left - those poor people, imagine being told you were a "shining example" after going through all that poo poo.

Agree my man, one of the best moments of the game.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Cwapface posted:

Seriously, stop trying to justify the Legion's actions. I have a megalomaniacal psychopathic character who was basically Caesar's pit-bull until it came time to play her own cards and take over the strip and turn it into a giant lab for human experimentation with the Protectrons as her loyal servants. But I still recognise that, if we can even talk about evil as a thing (which I don't think we can in seriousness, but let's just say), Caesar's Legion is it.

Fiends are evil, Caesar is a deluded tyrant.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Sam. posted:

Caesar is really stupid. He was sitting right on top of a bunker containing an entire robot army, no strings attached, and he turned it down because (paraphrasing here) "machines are for wimps".

That's being idealistic, it would explain why he has so much followers.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
Clearly what you guys need is Fallout: South America. Heck sometimes I feel we are in a post-apocalyptic setting already.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

closeted republican posted:

I think the point is that Ulysses is a nutjob that greatly exaggerates things. He's basically a pseudo-intellectual dolt that thinks he's got everything figured out because he's read a history book or two.

You don't talk like that to another goon! Specially when him, Raul and me are the Three Amigos.

Talking about making friends, I just got Private Halford into my party with my new character due to some weird bug... or perhaps he is a secret companion! If that's the case I can't wait to do his personal quest and gain a neat perk heh.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
Totally unrelated to Fallout but... guys I have never played Arcanum but I have heard MANY good things about the game. Should I play it or has the game aged badly?

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Eiba posted:

For the record, I'm a huge supporter of the NCR. It's obviously the best option available in the world of New Vegas.

Please, siding with Vegas is way better than joining with the hypocrites and incompetent NCR. Raul and Ulysses agree with me.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
My girlfriend finally started playing this game and jesus christ she sure is the explorer type. By level 6 she had already discovered the Dead Money starting zone, Sloan, Black Mountain and the Legion Safe Bunker. Teaching the game to her really makes me appreciate New Vegas even more.

Obsidian, I love you :3

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Trustworthy posted:

Better leave town before this posse rex your rear end.



edit: VVV :laugh:

God drat it that is badass. Guys do you think New Vegas is going on a flash sale? I wanna gift it to a friend!

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
Glad to see so many goons siding with Mr. House. In my book it's either side with him or go anarchy. gently caress NCR and gently caress the Legion.

Ps: My girlfriend just found the Paladin Toaster on her first run on the game, what the christ? She didn't know it was very effective against armor and discarded it as a meh weapon untill I proceeded to melt the robots at Hellion with it.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Monicro posted:

I don't normally partake in these discussions anymore since I've already done so a lot, but gently caress it here goes

I don't understand people who support House. He's better than Caesar's Legion and Yes Man, but there's just so many things going against him that pro-House people seem to gloss over that make me just unable to like him over the NCR. Like:



NCR is for me the worst of all factions. It is a big and steaming pile of corruption, incompetence and stagnating poo poo. It Don't get me wrong, there are many good and cool guys all around NCR but the head is rotten and I might be simplistic but when the head is rotten there is nothing to do but chop it. I don't know if it was intentional from Obsidian but I was totally pro-NCR on Fallout 2 and every single time I play New Vegas it pains me to see what a horrible crap it has become. If there was a choice where you join a revolutionary coup from inside NCR I would do it. Check Thomas Hildern, he IS a ruthless and cold motherfucker AND he doesn't give no fucks about anyone. People treat House like poo poo and they are ok with leaving that bastard on charge.

I will never side with them. It has everything I despise and I'm supposed to take it and shove it because they have the "good values of society". I might be taking the game too seriously but as a Peruvian (southamerican) I know when I see a corrupt government trying to finger me pretending they are the good guys.

It could be worse tho, I could be Arcade.

turboraton fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Jan 16, 2013

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Wolfsheim posted:


And as it turns out, one of Arcade's happiest endings is when House wins, Arcade gives up on his idealism and becomes a family doctor back west :unsmith:


Man, I really like what they have done with Arcade / The Followers. I also really like the quotes from J.E. Sawyer.

"Arcade's endings are intended to reflect that no one is damaged more by reality than the idealist. He does his best to be practical and rational, but there is a strong idealist streak in him/the Followers in general."

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
I'm really amazed at how everyone oppose Caesar's Legion brutality with NCR's deep corruption. If you really want to preserve -*freedom*- values you should just go anarchy because NCR is rotten. I know I'm like 3 pages late but everytime I catch up I read almost the same.

On a side note, my girlfriend just started OWB and found Ulysses Point in 30 mins. WHAT. She is also murdering everything with Proton Axe.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
After watching my gf playing Vegas so much I have decided to do another run. This time I'll be a post-punk/whatever girl addicted to jet going for anarchy in Vegas. But I have one question to you guys... how do you get to kill House? I remember only doing it once in my first run of the game and it was pretty painful :(

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
After a long hiatus im doing another run on New Vegas. First time using Jsawyer mod and I LOVE IT. Paired with hardcore and very hard gives you a new experience. At some point I had to follow a travelling caravan for safety hehe. Everything is doing fine on my anarchy run, god drat I love this game.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

The Crotch posted:

If you're just starting another run, I highly recommend also throwing on the Freeside Open and Outside Bets mods. The base game just feels wrong without them.

EDIT: Though I guess if you're a decent ways into your run already there won't be much benefit (and potentially some weird drawbacks) from adding those.

Well thanks. Now I have to start ANOTHER run of New Vegas because those two look way too cool to pass up.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
I still daydream of a Fallout: South America. But being 100% honest they could release Fallout: Switzerland and I'd still buy and enjoy the game. I just have immense respect for what Obsidian does.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
I play my games with jsawyer, very hard and hardcore. On this run I sided with powder gangers, put Meyers as the major. Explosives are vital early on and so is survival / some alcohool for the buffs. Yeah I'm with Wolfsheim on that one, I just can't enjoy New Vegas if I'm #YoloSwag420 and I noscope everyone in 1 shot.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
I'm doing Old World Blues now and decided to be an rear end in a top hat to the scientists. I didn't know that when you refuse to help them Klein goes:

-"Oh"
- (Zero) "Yes Mr Kleiner?"
-"Not you, Doctor O! I was saying 'oh' like 'oh, this wasnt planned'.

This game :3

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
My girlfriend has started to use mines, c4 and plenty of explosives in order to beat Dead Money. I won't lie, watching her frustration is fantastic. She has bonded with Christine tho and she finally entered the casino.

I remember that happened to me the very first time I played jsawyer with hardcore and very hard. I had to carefully play and call my shots, I really enjoyed it.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
I believe Dean Domino is a fantastic character. He is evil an HE knows it, gently caress he knew when he was becoming one from just being a regular douche and he said "Doesnt matter, I will get what I want". The fact that the game even offers you the chance to finally let him go of his curse-vengeance so he can start again in New Vegas is just... awesome.

And I admit that I just like House too much, everytime I roleplaying for another faction, it just get too hard for me to kill him. When he asks me "why" I feel like just closing my eyes and unplugging him with regret.

turboraton fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Aug 10, 2013

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Keeshhound posted:

Ulysess is a hypocrite, but it's more that he's mistakenly asserting that symbols have an inherent meaning. To the White Legs, the dreadlocks were a symbol of their patron, which they adopted to show their allegiance. To Ulysess, they were a reminder of his long-dead tribe, and he asserts that that was the only meaning it could have, hence he gets pissy about it. He has some other blatantly hypocritical moments, like how he lambastes the courier for not giving thought to the consequences of trivial actions, when his own actions have had consequences far beyond what he intended or expected.

You mean that he is human. If there is one thing I cherish about New Vegas is how it show us human stories, full of inconsistencies and almost contradictory points of views. Because if you live long enough and you get to see plenty of things that give you perspective and a LOT of characters on the game have that. Man, everytime I read this thread I want to reinstall the game and do one more run. Killing those NCR fuckers of course.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
Stop the Ulysses hate. Raśl, him and me are the Three Amigos and we bring anarchy to Vegas.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
gently caress the NCR man. Either go House or Yes Man.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Helith posted:

Hey Ropekid, is there any chance of there being New Vegas trading cards and badges on Steam? I'd love to have a New Vegas badge.
Apologies if you've been asked this a million times, I've only just got into this whole badge thing and noticed the lack of New Vegas cards and felt sad.

I already love you but I would love you so much more if this happened.

EDIT: Also gently caress you Ulysses haters. I have said so like 6 times in this thread and I'll say it again. Ulysses, Raul and me are the Three Amigos.

turboraton fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jan 18, 2014

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Wolfsheim posted:

It stands to reason that the NCR might just figure out something's wrong after the fifth time you strolled into Cottonwood Cove to have a chat with Caesar.


loving cable not working again! :v [SPEECH 100]

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Fangz posted:

I have no idea why people are defending the Legion.

I have no idea why people are defending the NCR. Every single playtrough I do ends up with me having enough of those incompetent and corrupt fuckfaces. I really love how Obsidian makes me hate NCR because I really really really rooted for them on Fallout 2 and thought things would be different.

turboraton fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Aug 9, 2014

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Catpiss Neverclean posted:

Game looks fine, quit bitching you goddamn nerds. Nobody with half a brain plays Fallout games for the SIK GRAFIXX.

And that's coming from Obsidian lovers rofl. I mean, I AM a huge Obsidian fanboy but the way this thread reacts to the trailer is just awkward.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
Glad to see this thread will go on forever. That being said, gently caress NCR forever. Either go independent or have House as a boss.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Ehhhhhhh, I dunno about this part. House's competency is directly dependent on the play-style of the courier. If you agree to work with him then yeah he seems to know what he's doing, but it's really just you doing all the work. But if you accidentally murder him like I did on my first play-through then he comes off as a dingus who failed to get an idiot savant mailwoman to do his bidding after his first choice betrayed him because he couldn't be bothered to tell her "HEY! Don't touch that terminal! That's what keeps me alive!" and then she killed him with a golf club.

Same but NCR, if you don't step to fix every single branch of corrupted fuckup they have they will end in misery for the masses.

gently caress the NCR. I didn't aid that little girl in Fallout 2 for this.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
I read this guy post and his ideas but in reality all I see is Mr. Fantastic or Dr Hildern or ANY of the biggest empowered assholes you may ever see in charge of something. Man, gently caress the NCR. The cool NCR quests like the one where you have to rescue the troop husbando because command control wont save him or the one where you talk man to man with Hanlon are the ones where you really learn that ENOUGH is ENOUGH with the NCR.

Begin again and far away.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Fair Bear Maiden posted:

If there's anything following these discussions online taught me, is that a terrifying amount of people who otherwise seem normal and don't display outwardly problematic leanings, will suddenly proclaim their allegiance for Caesar's Legion. As in, the actual players think that it's the best choice, versus rationalizing the choice for their character.

Same but NCR.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Man, gently caress off with that poo poo Ulysses.

The virtues of House vs. The NCR vs.Independent New Vegas really just come down to personal beliefs and all have good points that can be reasonably argued, but the second you start saying "The NCR is just as bad as the legion!" is the second you start sounding like a dumbass.

Good thing I didn't say that. Legion is comically bad, like, there is no way to support them. NCR is corrupt and inept, House is an immortal tyrant and Independent is tough at first but then -*|The Way|*-

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turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Clever Spambot posted:

Idk if he talks about this but fallout 3 has maybe the best introduction to an open world in any videogame. The small claustrophobic vault leading to the cave where the door closes behind you and you experience quiet for the first time (there is lots of ambient humming in the vault), then you open the door and are blinded by the sun and it slowly fades from white to this overlook of the massive dc wasteland.

I agree. One second you are thinking "Tunnel Snakes 4 Lyfe" and then vault opens, drat.

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