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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


I put about 40 hours into Fallout 3 and really enjoyed it, but I didn't really feel any need to go back in afterwards. With New Vegas, I'm closer to 70 hours, have barely touched the main questline, have played through two of the four DLC I own (I almost NEVER buy DLC for games) and I'm worried that at some point I'll have done everything in the game and not be able to play it anymore (with that character!).

It really is just a tremendous game. While it does have flaws, it does so much stuff so right, and I hope that Obsidian gets its kudos when it comes to getting to develop more games.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Zilkin posted:

You guys make this game sound so good, was thinking of waiting for GotY edition but now I don't know. Whats holding me back is that the game + all the DLCs cost like 70 euros on Steam. Is this game really worth that?

It IS worth it, but if you don't mind waiting I can guarantee it will be on sale again at some point, probably as a GOTY edition. You will get PLENTY of value out of the game. I picked it up on sale because I didn't really feel much urge to get more of the same Fallout 3, which is what I was expecting, but I got so much more.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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J Bjelke-Postersen posted:

I don't want to pump it up, but it's a lot better and you will have a loads of fun so long as you are true to Caesar.

I did not come to this thread to praise Caesar!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Police Automaton posted:

Also try to stop using VATS, it makes the game too easy.

I did find that making a conscious decision to stop using VATS so much in FO3 made the game much more enjoyable to me. In New Vegas it's about a 50/50 split, I find.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Oh God I found and fixed Rhonda and the first thing "she" asked me was where Tabitha was

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Alchiba posted:

So if I were to buy DLCs not necessarily all at once, which one should I start with?

I started with Honest Hearts but I'd recommend opening with Dead Money, though that's my personal preference. Dead Money gives you a more enclosed space to work in and pretty defined, tight goals, whereas Honest Hearts is far more open and you can pretty much explore the whole area at will. I'd go with whichever option sounds more appealing to you.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Wolfsheim posted:

Also Rex since he is implied to have been previously owned by Caesar himself.

Rex traded up

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


And I do feel that, for better or worse, the events/narrative explicitly given to you by following the quests are by design only giving you half the story. Where Honest Hearts shone for me was in the exploration of Zion uncovering the actual, true history of the place and putting the official quests/narrative into a different context.

Basically, reading through the Survivalist's logs made me realize just how much was at stake in the abandonment or defense of Zion, and strongly colored my decision on what to do in the game. If I hadn't uncovered those (and the only clue to doing them is in the miscellaneous challenges section) then I would have probably felt Honest Hearts was a bit of a letdown storywise. As it was, when I left I genuinely cared about the results of my actions and how Zion would or wouldn't continue due to them.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


jvempire posted:



Motherfucker is touching Boone's beret

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Tewratomeh posted:

The gold bars are from the Sierra Madre Casino (Dead Money), and they're worth an insane amount of money apiece.

They're also incredibly heavy and located in a section that requires you to be able to run fast in a short amount of time, so you have to be really careful abot how many (if any) you pick up. The moral of Dead Money is letting go, everybody who fails to resist the temptation of the vault dies.... except the Courier, who gets to go in, walk out, and take some of that precious booty with him!

I've been using mine to finance my addiction to getting implants, I actually cleared out all my caps the other day for the first time, which meant.... I just had to go pick up another of my stash of gold bars and jump up another 8k!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Kill Elijah, gib his body. Grab all the gold, transfer it to his corpse, pick an eyeball (press Z), run to exit, loot eyeball for approximately 2 tons of gold, escape, crawl to exit/mojave, hope you got the fast travel while overburdened perk!

You sir are an absolute monster... I wish I'd thought of that!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Cicadalek posted:

You can actually (DM spoilers)grab all the gold and just crawl out the door that Father Elijah dosen't use, if you have a stealth boy. He needs to not spot you for it to work, I think.

Oh wow, I actually thought that those were ALWAYS there and that Elijah was just using his genius to bypass them. I locked him in the vault but I took the long way out and never would have made it if I was weighted down.

Cicadalek posted:

The lengths you have to go to to get around the weight limit really drive home the message of Dead Money, i think.

Absolutely, I understand the moral and I appreciate and even agree with it totally.... but gently caress you I ain't leaving that gold! Lessons are for everybody else, not for me!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


If you're tired of making fun of people who misunderstand the Confirmed Bachelor trait, guess who just found out for the first time that you can fire more than once in VATS?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Xik posted:

Ok, I'm going to bite. How on earth were you unaware of this?

Do you just not use VATS normally so it's just a case of "I never use it so didn't know that", or you actually use it and just click once, then watch the animation, then do it again? I really am unsure how you even achieved this.

I'd normally either use VATS to score my opening shot then just fight normally, or fight normally and use VATS when I felt I had a good chance of finishing them. It never occurred to me that clicking stacked/queued attacks, even though it is painfully obvious. I have no justification, it was dumb, and I'm the dummy. I feel like an idiot.

Xik posted:

While we are stating things we didn't know, for the longest time I didn't know you could cycle through item types in the shop/container view. I thought how absolutely frustrating it was that you had a single window with all your items and had to hunt down looking for all your armor or all your guns. Turns out you can press the left and right arrow keys to filter through item categories like in your pipboy.



I.... I mean.... EVERYBODY knows that

Oh God if I was a Fallout character I'd be Fantastic

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


I don't know why, but I was tickled pink that sitting at the bar at the Mojave Outpost actually has you lean forward against the bar instead of just sitting bolt upright in your seat.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


I haven't really done much in the way of melee myself, but I had to admit being impressed when Veronica uppercutted the head off of (Veronica late-quest spoilers)the Brotherhood rear end in a top hat who wiped out the Followers Medical Center.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


I didn't actually wipe out the Powder Gangers, even though I fully intended to. I strolled up to the prison wearing the bloodsoaked uniform of one of their brothers I'd killed and stripped naked, and they said,"Yeah we know you're not one of us but.... you don't gently caress with us, we won't gently caress with you."

After that it just felt like a step too far to kill them after they were so accomodating to the guy who they KNOW murdered the gently caress out of a bunch of their buddies.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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majestic12 posted:

that happened to me, then Veronica punched his head off, then the rest of the embassy went back to what they were doing.

Sounds like the people in the Embassy are pretty smart, I wouldn't mess with a girl who can punch heads off.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


So I just finished Vault 11....

That was a great experience, I made a point of listening to the recording I found at the opening again as I left - those poor people, imagine being told you were a "shining example" after going through all that poo poo.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


I'm happy with the terminals, my pet peeve is actually the ones where it turns out you need a key to enter a place, and the key is sitting on a shelf in a cluttered room of useless junk in a sideroom down a miscellaneous corridor.

I've been working my way through a bunch of quests around the Mojave and trying to clear out my quest backlog before heading out to Old World Blues. While going through the quests, I found one to kill some guy called Benny. Who the gently caress is Benny I asked.

Oh yeah, that guy who shot me in the head and had me buried alive....

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Knuc If U Buck posted:

Sounds like one of your companions in the Lucky 38 got into your Nuka Cola Quartz stash.

I've heard if you hide it, they will hunt for it and find it no matter where you put it.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Happy Noodle Boy posted:

You all ironically posting about shotguns? Because shotguns are terrible. All of them. Give me laser and give me plasma. Give me meltdown

I didn't think much of shotguns until I first entered Freeside while carrying one and got rushed by a thug. Before I even had time to think my finger reflexively hit the fire button and the thug charging me got his face blown off by a lever-action shotgun, his upper body flying backwards as the momentum of his running legs pushed his lower body forward, and then equilibrium was reached and the body hit the ground and lay still.

"That'll do, lever action shotgun," I said,"That'll do."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Happy Noodle Boy posted:

I got Explorer perk on my last run after doing pretty much everything at level 44 and realized I had yet to visit about 60% of all locations.

I think I got it while doing Honest Hearts, and when I got back to the Mojave and opened the World Map..... Even mousing over some of the names is exciting, imagining what kind of crazy poo poo you'll find at a place called "Crashed Vertibird".

Oh yeah, and I convinced Raul to take up the gunslinging lifestyle again and he kept mentioning how good he was. I kind of took it with a grain of salt until we fast-traveled to Vault 3 and a bunch of Fiends bumrushed us. I was more annoyed than anything and went to draw my gun.... and then they were all dead and Raul was grunting,"I've been at this a LOT longer than you have."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Dude went out on his own terms and left the world a better place than he found it, and that was why I decided gently caress you, Daniel, we're fighting to keep this place - we won't let that man's sacrifices be in vain.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Possibly silly question here about the main questlines, spoilers about the Lucky 38 and The Tops Casino follow:

So I went into the Tops, went up to the Presidential Suite and killed Benny, looted him and went to the 13th Floor and talked with Yes Man.

Now that I've done that, I have two questlines opened up that I think are not possible to do concurrently. Basically I have The House Always Wins I and Wild Card: Ace In The Hole, and the former tells me to take the Platinum Chip to House while the latter wants me to kill House.

I assume I'm supposed to choose between these two and I can't complete the first quest if I start up the second one? But if I complete the first one The House Always Wins I does it automatically cut me off from the Wild Card questline? Or can I complete the first then move on to the alternate questline?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Oh sweet so I can basically continue along both questlines till the point where a decision must be made and then make my final choice? That rules.

So if I go back and see House and give him the Platinum Chip I'll get it back, right? That was what was worrying me, that handing it over would cut off anything further.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


The way I'm currently angling towards ending things, I want to support NCR against the Legion but I want New Vegas itself to be independent. I haven't really decided who I want to be "in charge" of an Independent Vegas yet, so I was happy to see with careful quest management I can put off the decision till I've gone down both paths a bit.

It just feels right that Vegas should be independent, it feels like a Vegas thing to do/be.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Seriously, King is the most chill sonuvabitch, even when you bring up what a stinkyhole Pacer is, he's pretty much,"Yeah that's true but I can't blame him and he's a good buddy to me "

Plus he's so happy when you bring Rex back

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Wingnut Ninja posted:

The King is the most goony sonuvabitch, he sits around running his little cosplay kingdom while all his buddies gently caress everything up without him realizing it. I went in really trying to like him, but he's just so loving thick that I took his dog and never came back.

The King is pure in motivation, one of the only people in Mojave who is. He found a building dedicated to an incredibly cool man who people worshiped, and he decided he wanted to emulate that great man and pass on his message of having a good time, singing, dancing and making out with pretty girls.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Whoops! Mispost!

Edit: To reiterate, The King rules and is just a genuinely nice guy. It's kind of pathetic, but I love the young dude he sends running around after you to give you gifts of ridiculous little trinkets or a few bottlecaps.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


What I liked doing in Nipton was after talking to that smug rear end in a top hat Vulpes Inculta, heading down the road a bit and laying down a shitload of frag mines. Then I'd go a little off the road and activate my Stealth Boy.

Vulpes will then stride down the street smug in his belief that word is going to spread of the Legion's might, step onto a shitload of mines and be crippled to hell. Now you CAN kill him at this point, and then deal with all his troops who will set their dogs on you and bypass your stealthboy, and it is possible. But I preferred to just keep back - let that motherfucker LIMP crippled out of Nipton, and deal with the fact that he isn't going to get everything his own way and that there are consequences for Nipton, motherfucker

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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AlmightyBob posted:

I found the Tesla-Beaton prototype, it beats the poo poo out of the Broken Steel tesla cannon.

I haven't fired it yet, but I love carrying it around on my shoulder, it just looks so cool

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Why did you put a pile of mines in the road?

Gotta put 'em somewhere!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


So I picked up the Left My Heart quest the other day and headed down to Cottonwood Cove to find the family. I also had Render Unto Caesar in my questlog, and as a result Canyon Runner refused to talk to me until I went to see Caesar. That really irritated me, since if I freed the slaves they'd all die and if I wiped out the Legion there any way other than dumping the radioactive cannisters I'd be shunned by the Legion and unable to speak to Caesar.

So I ended up getting onto the ferry and going to the Fort, where my stuff was taken from me and was told to go see Caesar. Instead I immediately fast travelled back to Cottonwood Cove and tried talking to Canyon Runner again, but apparently Caesar frequently radios him to let him know if he's talked to people recently, so he told me to get my rear end back to see Caesar.

I was pissed off and ready to go and do a quest I hadn't wanted to do yet when it FINALLY clicked for me - this is my game and my choice. Why should I see Caesar just to avoid a "mission failed" message? Why should I ignore my instincts to kill every motherfucking Legion soldier I find? So I wiped out Cottonwood Cove, and then Boone finally told me about Bitter Springs, and then we went to Bitter Springs and wiped out more Legion there and now me, Boone and Ed-E are going to arm up, take that ferry and see Caesar after all. But we're not coming to complete a mission, we're coming to kill every last motherfucking one of them. I was an idiot, letting the game dictate missions and where to go and who to speak with. It's a sandbox world, it's my game to decide what to do and who to kill, and it's about time I finally figured that out. I can't balance everyone forever and get the benefit of doing all their quests, sometimes some guys just have to die.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


I just hope Caesar and the others appreciate the symbolism when a guy carrying A Light Shining In The Darkness and another guy wearing Joshua Graham's clothes bring death with them to the Fort.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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closeted republican posted:

In my current Energy Weapons run, the NCR guy that gives you the emergency radio spawned when I was cleaning out Vault 3. Imagine my surprise when I see the Fiends getting their asses kicked by somebody I've never seen before. He finished off the Fiends attacking him, ran over, gave me the radio, and left like nothing happened.

In Freeside the other, I saw the Kings member who gives you stuff rushing towards me, then suddenly peel off wildly to the right and disappear around a corner. I followed him around and found him blasting away into a cowering Freeside Thug. Once he'd blown his head off, he turned to me, told me to keep up the good work and gave me.... maize.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Starhawk64 posted:

Anyone else find Energy Weapons boring? Guns are alot more fun to use.

I don't use energy weapons all that much, which seems to me to be their best use since it means I don't get tired of the cool looking effects/sounds when I fire them

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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I uncovered the Omerta plot and went and had a meeting with Big Sal and Nero. I have to say I was very pleased with how the game handled the situation I found myself in.

I absolutely did NOT want Cachino in charge afterwards, but he was classed as an ally. Happily I convinced Big Sal that Nero was double crossing him, Nero blew Big Sal away, I put two into Nero's head, turned and blew Cachino's head off as he cowered in the corner, then turned back and blasted Nero in the heart to put him down.

When the smoke cleared I kinda expected the whole casino to go hostile because of Cachino dying but they just kept on keeping on. After Joana told me about the stuff he did, I really didn't want to leave him in charge, and he seemed a little TOO enthusiastic about being the new Boss. I guess everyone just thinks that he died during the fallout between Sal or Nero.

Jerusalem fucked around with this message at Oct 4, 2011 around 06:01

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Xik posted:

I didn't even know that was an option. Does it still mark the quest as complete and say you can go back to Yes Man and inform him that it has been "dealt with". I didn't want Cachino in charge either but I didn't really think I had much of a choice.

Yep, I had actually forgotten that it was even a thing that Yes-Man was interested in but I got the quest complete/tick-boxes. I think it's because he died BEFORE Nero, so it classed him as dying in the battle. If I'd done it afterwards, I suspect it would have hosed things up, but I got my timing right on it.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Oh my God, hahaha... if Caesar is dead and you shoot his dead body's head till his dead body's head blows off, then up pops "Et Tumor, Brute? Failed!"

Edit: Oh yeah, "Thumbs down, you son of a bitch," was an awesome line.

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