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Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

J Bjelke-Postersen posted:

If there were never more video games made and I could only play one game forever it would be New Vegas. I can't wait to get home and play Old World Blues tonight, Honest Hearts and Dead Money were awesome even though they've leveled me from 20 to like 28 really rapidly.

I just wanted to have a gush on the first page.

Between FO:NV and Civ V I haven't bought a non-DLC game in almost a year :ohdear:

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Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

^^^^Edit: I'd wait a little while. I imagine that in the coming months you'll see a GOTY set come out, or at least a big sale. And by then most of the mods will up updated for all of the DLCs, too.

Doug Lombardi posted:

NMA was 100% correct about Fallout 3 and they liked Fallout: New Vegas so I don't get the criticism.

I think the criticism was directed at the sheer anger that they displayed. FO3 got the Civ V treatment, imo. It is a good game that somehow earned the ire of some dedicated fans and has since been panned as a shitheap despite being a pretty awesome reinvention of a series.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Anyone have an idea when GRA is dropping tomorrow?

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

If you already have a preorder bonus you can't buy Courier's Stash :(

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Mikael Kreoss posted:

GRA has a Katana in it.

:japan:

The Katana actually has some pretty cool mods for it. Also I love the Unique Ballistic fist. Hand cannon in truth.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Bash Ironfist posted:

Don't know what those are, but I want all the Nuka Grenades. I think I also saw a picture of what looked to be a club/axe made from a nuka-cola sign?

Someone find that and tell me how it is. I want to prolong this agony.

It's a unique Rebar Club. It's pretty cool. But the coolest weapon so far is the unique Ballistic Fist. It shoots a sticky mine dart on hit that explodes about a second later.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

^^Incorrect everywhere now. Steam was detecting any packs as having already owned it, but it's fixed now.

The Katana is hilariously overpowered with its weapon speed mod and Slayer. You end up getting 5 attacks per a second and can just eviscerate everything.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Kill Elijah, gib his body. Grab all the gold, transfer it to his corpse, pick an eyeball (press Z), run to exit, loot eyeball for approximately 2 tons of gold, escape, crawl to exit/mojave, hope you got the fast travel while overburdened perk!

I'm convinced that the other motif in DM - besides letting go - is that people do absolutely horrific things for a fistful of caps.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Bigass Moth posted:

The best Confirmed Bachelor:

"During Beyond the Beef, the Courier can lure Carlyle St. Clair III by proposing to have sex with him in a dumpster. "

Wait what? I thought that Confirmed Bachelor was like a ladies' man. An alpha male like George Clooney or Benecio Del Toro that is ripped and masculine and doesn't get married because hey, plenty of fish in the sea.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Node posted:



Yes... this is what I think when I see an image of a dude massaging a naked dude with a heart floating above him.

I thought this was a reference to the spa assassination in The Godfather where Mo Greene gets it while getting a massage. I figured it meant Hardcore fellow, willing to knife a man while he was getting a massage with just a towel over his buttocks.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Cowcaster posted:

"Confirmed Bachelor" is a euphemism for being gay.

So from this can we just go ahead and assume Lady Killer makes you a lesbian too?

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Cowcaster posted:

No, that's Cherchez La Femme.

Oh cool. I didn't know that female characters got different perks from male characters.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Starhawk64 posted:

How useful would the Junk Rounds perk be in Dead Money? Seeing as you don't have access to your uber gear there, being able to make some extra bullets out of all the random tin cans lying about could be useful.

Honestly junk rounds are entirely worthless. If you're a guns character you can pretty much one shot anything and enemies never come in large enough numbers to warrant carrying more than a magazine or two. The police pistol is accurate enough to sneak critical the ghost people, and if you really get into a bind you can whip out the Automatic Rifle. As for an ideal build, just sneak and speech and a combat skill. Energy weapons kind of get screwed, but not too terribly, you get a seriously alpha rifle.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Dominoes posted:

You'd think they'd make a DLC pack for $20-$30. I can't see myself spending full game price for DLC.

The combined hours of the DLC are longer than a lot of AAA titles these days.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

closeted republican posted:

I'd trust the guy who actually served and seen what's going on instead of the leader. Also, I'm pretty sure that it's stated that Caesar's Legion will destroy itself once Caesar dies. Basically, they're hosed no matter what; if they destroy the NCR, they'll start having a civil war amongst themselves, and if Caesar dies before they get there, they'll lose their purpose for fighting because Caesar was the only one that actually knew what the Legion's ultimate goal is. Without him, the Legion is just a band of very violent and cruel tribals who only worked together because Caesar made them do so.

I like to think that if the Courier sides with the Legion, that the Courier is essentially the Augustus Caesar of the Legion. Caesar got the ball rolling, but Augustus took it and ran like his head was on fire.

It would have been an interesting ending for the Legion. Far better than the Got your head put on a coin ending. If you killed Caesar, you could wage a coup d'etat against Lanius and the other field commanders after running off the NCR and end up controlling the Legion. Your karma level and previous quest decisions could have either had you steering it towards settling and becoming a developing Empire in truth, keeping it roughly the same, or foregoing all pretenses of being a nation and instead turning into a massive barbarian horde that roamed, raped, and pillaged the outlying NCR territories.

I'm really kind of sore about the Legion in general. It has tons of potential and as a new faction you didn't have to worry so much about retconning old material. But it really gets castrated for the sake of having a clear antagonist to the NCR.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

SeanBeansShako posted:

Can we pretend that Mothership Zeta isn't canon at least? such a dumb DLC.

Dumb is an understatement. That DLC jumped the shark as soon as they started blaming the nuclear war on Alien Mind Control, which was about 4 minutes into the DLC. It actually got worse both as a game and a plot from there.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Truth posted:

I can't believe people actually liked Dead Money. Fallout doesn't do survival horror well, Dead Money was the most tedious thing I've ever experienced.

As I've said before, Dead Money is actually far, far better on your second run through it in my opinion. You have a feel for the area, the survival horror element is kind of removed or at least muted, and you can really enjoy the characters and backstory of the Sierra Madre.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

immortal flow posted:

Is there a bug with Gun Runners Arsenal? None of the GRA ammo can be loaded into my wonderful guns, it just switches between vanilla ammo types when I press 2 :(

Do you have any mods that modify weapons? Because anything that overwrites the ammo lists will make GRA's ammo not register.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Wolfsheim posted:

"we just want to focus on telling a specific story really well, since that's what we're good at."

This sounds like a nice way of saying "We can barely fit a specific story together without Lucas sized plot holes. So we're going to stick with that."

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Cowcaster posted:

Obviously we require a separate skill, "improvised weapons".

Improvised weapons would be more like Zip Guns, I think for C4 we need a clayshaping or Pottery skill.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Lets gently caress Bro posted:

If I give the platinum chip to House does that lock me on his path or can I help out the NCR/Legion later?

Nah you're fine if you do. You'll have a harder time later if you decide to go all out NCR or Legion, but you can still side with them. The point of no return as far as House/Yes Man goes is finishing The House Always Wins III.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

I love pant grenading people with Honest Heart's Fire bombs. Rather than just explode, they erupt into flames and then their limbs pop off. :D

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

I just realized that the one thing I've never seen in a Fallout game is that you never discover an intact, inhabited, and unopened vault that you didn't originally come from. It would be pretty cool if at some point in a game you come across a vault, open it up, and end up having to help the vault dweller reintegrate into the rest of world.

Or worse, you crack open a vault, hoping for some good salvage, but it's like the one the Boomer's came form and you end up unleashing a well spoken and ruthless army of conquerors on the wasteland.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Astfgl posted:

Isn't the problem, though, that of the however-many vaults there are, only a small small fraction of them were "control" vaults and all the rest were designed to open early, break down, or prey on their inhabitants? And weren't the control vaults programmed to open after like 200 years or something, a threshold that already came and went? Which, if memory serves, is how we got the NCR?

So you make a vault where the test was how long you could keep people in a state of war and obedient through fear. The overseer and staff convinces the inhabitants that the outside world is a radioactive hellhole filled only with rapist cannibals that swarmed and devoured the other vaults, so vault [insert] has been entirely militarized since shortly after it was closed. When the player cracks the front door he's breaching their walls. Convinced they're going to be devoured by ravenous ghouls, the inhabitants start a blind, ruthless crusade to purify the lands surrounding the vault and resettle them solely with vault dwellers.

Edit: I think I just described the Boomers, more or less.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Berk Berkly posted:

I wish Animal Friend wasn't so poo poo. Giant Radiscorps, Cadflies and DeathClaws are the real problems in the wasteland which even the second rank doesn't help with. If it did, I could see being able to go full non-violent.

Animal friend is pretty much awesome. The second rank turns the game into Happy Hour at Shenanigans. Legion patrol near the lake attacks you and bam! a pack of nightstalkers out of nowhere starts mutilating them. Powder Gangers attacking you on the road? Coyotes to the rescue!

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Saiko Kila posted:

What? All these vehicles were being driven over 200 years before the story starts. Now NCR guys drive only brahmins, if so.

The NCR has an extensive mechanized infantry and armored component to their military. If I remember correctly, one of the big reasons they haven't curb stomped the legion is that they can't get their heavy artillery and support through the divide.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Kharmakazy posted:

Do heavy helmets even factor in to anything?

They don't, even power armor helmets aren't heavy armor. In fact as far as I know the LR riot helmets are the only headgear in the game that aren't considered light headgear.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Wolfsheim posted:

What does this mean? I'm not sure what you're saying.

The perks use what the GECK calls a form list that lists every piece of armor in the game that isn't effected by the perk. Think of it like a filter, with only effected armor sets getting through being the ones that aren't listed.

It's really counter intuitive and more than a little :psyduck:. For instance in my little housing mod the weapon sorter list for pistols lists the ID of every weapon in the game except for 7 or 8 pistols and when it is run it checks the ID of each weapon against that list and only puts them in the pistol box when their ID isn't present.

Probably more than you want to know:
This becomes a massive, massive pain in the rear end when you are trying to add, remove, or sort things. You have to make a command to remove none of the items in the core game (to make sure that you don't have mod weapons/armors being added to the wrong container), then a command to remove the weapons you want in the box(like the example with the pistols above) then you have another command to return to non-core items back to the inventory.

When trying to support DLCs it gets even worse. You have to manually script in an addformtoformlist command for every list you have, for every item added. So adding one pistol to the pistol sort list requires 6 different commands, one for adding it to the miscellaneous list, then for the heavy weapon list, then for the assault rifle list, etc. Rather than just getting one concise command to add it to one list, you get huge piles like this:

AddFormToFormList LSWeaponsWallBlank NVDLC02WeapYaoGuaiGauntletUnique
AddFormToFormList LSWeaponsWallEnergy NVDLC02WeapYaoGuaiGauntletUnique
AddFormToFormList LSWeaponsWallHeavy NVDLC02WeapYaoGuaiGauntletUnique
;AddFormToFormList LSWeaponsWallMelee NVDLC02WeapYaoGuaiGauntletUnique
AddFormToFormList LSWeaponsWallPSSMG NVDLC02WeapYaoGuaiGauntletUnique
AddFormToFormList LSWeaponsWallRifles NVDLC02WeapYaoGuaiGauntletUnique
AddFormToFormList LSThrownSort NVDLC02WeapYaoGuaiGauntletUnique

And that is a small one. Crafting items are a nightmare and require significantly more. The only redeeming quality is that the addformtoformlist command can be easily incorporated into additional modules without mucking up the original mod .esp. Also its the only way to maintain item condition across containers through scripting without going to the ends of the earth.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Strudel Man posted:

Actually, you can get a better ending if you kill Dean, because he's a horrible bastard who doesn't deserve to extend his miserable life by another damned day.

I Mozambique Drill the son of a bitch as soon as I can, every play through. Especially after finding out that he's responsible for Christines Auto-Doc torture.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

^^^ I'm convinced that Bethesda originally developed the game with the premise being 20 years after the war rather than 200, but somewhere along the way a story writer decided that Project Purity needed to take the front stage.

Chairman Mao posted:

I mean, I like New Vegas better, there's more variety in the missions and the environments, the characters are for the most part more interesting and the moral choices it has you make are more complex than pet the kitty and give it some milk/gently caress the kitty and cut off its head, but it doesn't quite capture the "oh god everything is hosed we're all hosed everything is dead everyone is dead I'm gonna die out here" vibe that 3 had.

I agree on this. Fallout 3 had a much more distinct "Society has completely fallen apart and my remaining lifespan outside the vault is probably measured in months." Leaving the Vault in Fallout 3 in particular had a much more "Oh poo poo I'm completely unprepared to survive here" feeling to it, and somewhat ironically I felt more endangered then than I did after getting shot twice in the head.

That's really the only major positive thing I can think of for FO3 vs. NV, though.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

This is why I dislike Bethesda's general approach to storytelling. Set a sequel too far ahead of the previous games? Now you have to shoehorn everything into the current setting, even if it doesn't make sense chronologically speaking.

Fallout 3 would have worked far, far better if you set it 9 years after the bombs fell, the BoS was instead remnant Pentagon Security Forces that had rebelled against the Enclave, Enclave was Enclave, and Project Purity was about scrubbing radiation from the wasteland rather than just from the water.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

I started my latest run today. Maxwell Edison, Energy Weapon Meltdown Specialist and Mad Bomber. Let the carnage begin!

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Node posted:

He doesn't have Cass' sass or Veronica's wit though. You can beep all you want, trash can, it ain't ever going to grow you a pair of tits.

:nws: Au contraire. The modding community has done just that, with added sex animations, naughty nightware, and a variety of erotic beeps and buzzes to turn your software into hardware.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Red Glare would be pretty awesome if there was a sabot Rocket that just sheered body parts off and stuck them places ala a high powered Railroad gun.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Tirius posted:

Whoa, can we talk about this? I didn't even know there was any question about this, I always thought the ending strongly implied that Yes Man would take control of New Vegas after installing his new "assertive" personality. He already has control of the upgraded securitrons, and is about to free himself from your control.

The way I understand it, the Yes Man will no longer say yes to everything, i.e. how can I kill the Courier? But will instead become a kind of steward for you.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Berk Berkly posted:

What I want to see is if that and the Deathclaw quest up in Sloan are done for a lot more traffic up that road, and more quests opening up with the issues that result from that. Like Raiders taking advantage, or NPCs reconstructing the roads and so on.

Strange that you pick that one. If you clear the Deathclaws you'll find Boulder City and the bar there more crowded by a significant degree with the inhabitants talking about the road being reopened and the jobs/resources coming back. :)

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Fallout: Cuba writes itself, if you were going to put a Fallout somewhere you'd be insane to not make it Cuba.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Greased Lightning

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Pharmaskittle posted:

Arcanum is aggressively unhelpful

This may be the best description for Arcanum that I've ever heard.

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Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

50 Foot Ant posted:

Gobi Sniper Rifle for when I want to snipe
Gobi Sniper Rifle for when they're getting close
Bloody Mess and the Gobi Sniper Rifle for when I want to blow them up
Boone and the Gobi Sniper Rifle for when I have to spray and pray
Gobi Sniper Rifle for depopulation

I've got a great build so far:

Two-Step Goodbye for when I want to snipe
Two-Step Goodbye for when they're getting close
Two-Step Goodbye for when I want to blow them up
Two-Step Goodbye for when I have to spray and pray
Two-Step Goodbye for depopulation

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