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Hot Dog Day #63 posted:Hey, can anyone comment on whether pyromancer is a viable build? Debating what to go with, don't want to get too far down the tree and realize it sucks. I've been playing a pyro focusing on attunement & vitality. I have the Lordvessel so I guess I'm a decent ways through the game. Its perfectly viable but you'll need to be good at dodging, unless you plan on raising endurance a lot. One warning though, theres multiple bosses that are completely immune to fire. Pyro is kind of a hybrid in that as long as you're upgrading your flame, you can still melee fairly well. At this point, I'm using my spells more than my weapons. Multiple scrolls of combustion & a strong flame is rocking most things. I don't know how a great weapon compares, but my strongest spell does about 650 at level 45ish. The beginning was rather tough, so focus on strength & dexterity first! Get them up to about 16 and you're set for most of the game.
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Paino posted:The second boss (well, third including the prologue) is pretty silly. In DS, Maneater actually punished you for taking too long by summoning a companion; this time there's no logic to it, they just pull it out of their asses because gently caress you, this is Dark Souls, bitch. Oh, and if they manage to be one in front of you and one behind (pretty easy considering their range of movement) you'll die regardless of how well you play. One guy even does it shirtless. With a halberd. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDtWlLsRlLI&feature=player_detailpage#t=150s
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Paino posted:The second boss (well, third including the prologue) is pretty silly. In DS, Maneater actually punished you for taking too long by summoning a companion; this time there's no logic to it, they just pull it out of their asses because gently caress you, this is Dark Souls, bitch. Oh, and if they manage to be one in front of you and one behind (pretty easy considering their range of movement) you'll die regardless of how well you play. Can't wait till you get to the Anor Londo boss. E: Also its not like you could avoid the second Maneater by killing the first one fast enough. He always summons it before he dies. MMF Freeway fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Oct 8, 2011 |
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Oct 8, 2011 23:35
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Paino posted:The second boss (well, third including the prologue) is pretty silly. In DS, Maneater actually punished you for taking too long by summoning a companion; this time there's no logic to it, they just pull it out of their asses because gently caress you, this is Dark Souls, bitch. Oh, and if they manage to be one in front of you and one behind (pretty easy considering their range of movement) you'll die regardless of how well you play. So is the answer to use a humanity? Will Lautrec's sign show up? I've been trying to avoid spoilers, but I couldn't help my self on this guy. Rascyc posted:There's plenty of people who've posted videos of them solo'ing the belltower gargoyles. Without the Draketooth Sword for that matter. E: Ah I see, with the resin he kills of the first one so fast the other one isn't a factor. I've been wary of using items I don't know how to replenish, just for experimentation. Hamburger Test fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Oct 8, 2011 |
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Oct 8, 2011 23:36
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This loving game. God drat. I know the Undead Burg by heart at this point
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Oct 8, 2011 23:37
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Managed to kill the Gaping Dragon with the help of two phantoms. They even cut off the tail for me and set me up with that sweet Final Fantasy axe. Thought I'd wait a bit with Blighttown because everyone says it's a terrible place, and went to the garde instead for the Elite Knight Armor (Straight upgrade all of it). Had a whack at the butterfly too while I was there. Died and placed a sign, got summoned by some guy with a big fuckoff sword that killed everything in two hits, even the golems. Killed the butterfly and all that. What's weird is, the first time, when I was alive I found a summon sign under a bush beneath the staircase leading to the butterfly. It summoned a "Witch <name>" that was very much an NPC that I had never seen before. Anyone else seen it?
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I couldn't figure out how to summon Solaire even with a humanity so I ended up taking all day to solo the Bell Gargoyles with the Gargoyle Axe. Also how do you summon people? I've been summoned by people but I never see any blues to summon others... to much level disparity? missing an item? *edit* where do i buy spells? I've seen 2 miracle dealers and no spell dealers so far..
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Job For A Pirate posted:I couldn't figure out how to summon Solaire even with a humanity so I ended up taking all day to solo the Bell Gargoyles with the Gargoyle Axe. You need to be human, but other than that there aren't any requirements.
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Foxhound posted:
Yeah, she's a secret summon or something.
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Oct 8, 2011 23:40
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You know I kinda wish the Draketooth Sword and Lightning Spear weren't in the game. Seems like there isn't too much motivation beyond around messing to not use those two weapons. Sure they may not scale, but their damage params are so high as it is for a first playthrough. I guess in a way they're a bone to be thrown to make the game a bit easier?
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I gotta say I'm kinda disappointed with the few bosses I've fought so far. I haven't died more than once on any of them, dying only to the Capra Demon and Quelaag (got one-shot by her fire venting area attack that comes out real fast). Are there bosses like the Flamelurker and False King to look forward to? Just good ol' fashioned throwdowns and not giant things you stab in the rear end? So far the black knights have provided the most challenge in the game.
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Ugh just lost my first big chunk of humanity in Blighttown. Got knocked off a platform by a barbarian while I had 9 humanity (and was human), then got killed by the dogs and ghoul by the bonfire.  That was pretty much all the humanity items I'd gathered throughout the game. Didn't even get any from the rats in the sewer even though I had 10 humanity the whole time in that area.Wish there was a way to bank this stuff. I don't even care for any of the drops in the area so I wish I could just put it away and keep it safe for later
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Smelly posted:After the second bell spoiler: I assume you mean fighting Lautrec with the Black Eye Orb: Run all the way upstairs to try and separate them. It helps a lot if you can kill the sorcerer at this point. I think he has some attacks that will penetrate through your shields defense (or they're magic, or whatever, I don't know) After that its not too hard, just jump back from his attacks and slice him. I also used all my Fire Orbs although getting off ranged attacks against them is kind of a pain. chunkles fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Oct 8, 2011 |
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Rascyc posted:There's plenty of people who've posted videos of them solo'ing the belltower gargoyles. Without the Draketooth Sword for that matter. Yeah well there are also videos of japanese dudes speed-playing Super Mario Bros 3 in 15 minutes. I'm very happy for that shirtless guy with a halberd, but my point was that, as underlined by several reviews and players, this game doesn't know what "fair" means. Unlike the first DS, it just seems to throw random poo poo at you and coop is simply necessary to survive. Still one hell of a game, but way less balanced than the first.
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Rascyc posted:You know I kinda wish the Draketooth Sword and Lightning Spear weren't in the game. Seems like there isn't too much motivation beyond around messing to not use those two weapons. Sure they may not scale, but their damage params are so high as it is for a first playthrough. Are there are good 100% phys block shields around 20 str with decent stability? I have some giant badass shields, but they require a lot more strength than I am likely to have soon. The closest thing that fits the bill I have is the eagle shield, but upgrading it seems to have a minimal effect on stability when compared to the smaller shields. Edit: What kind of strength does the shield made from the butterfly soul require? Filthy Monkey fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Oct 8, 2011 |
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I just paid 90k souls to absolve my sins so that I could rescue the pyromancer trainer that I had accidentally hit. And now he doesn't even appear in the sewers 
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Partial Octopus posted:I just paid 90k souls to absolve my sins so that I could rescue the pyromancer trainer that I had accidentally hit. And now he doesn't even appear in the sewers He might be at Firelink now.
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Partial Octopus posted:I just paid 90k souls to absolve my sins so that I could rescue the pyromancer trainer that I had accidentally hit. And now he doesn't even appear in the sewers Try going back to firelink, now that he's free and doesn't want to murder you he's probably where he should be there.
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Smelly posted:He might be at Firelink now. I was just there and didn't see him. The bonfire is shut down there too and I'm already at Anor Londo. Am I hosed? edit: where is he supposed to be at firelink?
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Oct 8, 2011 23:47
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So what the hell was this poo poo, some dude invaded and he had two ghost players (I assume) with him that I couldn't even target or damage but they could hit me (and killed me)? loving retarded. Edit: Really glad they made the whole "can't do anything online unless you're human" system, because the pvp in this game has always been terrible. It's either one guy who's bored, continually invading people and got nothing to lose vs. you trying to play the game and then some being interrupted by some laggy moron mini-boss that usually takes forever to kill because, well it's a person and "herp derp gonna run away now that I'm low on health, have fun chasing me for 30 minutes because you certainly can't ignore me!!!" 
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Oct 8, 2011 23:48
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Filthy Monkey posted:If you go to the catacombs before Sen Fortress, you can pretty easily make a +5 fire weapon which will outclass both of those weapons.
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I guess I grinded ahead of the curve or something because the Capra demon went down in less than thirty seconds, and the bell gargoyles were a pair of scrubs. This is weird because the taurus demon probably killed me 20 times or more. The drake sword might as well be a cheat code if you're strong enough to rock it one-handed.
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Paino posted:Yeah well there are also videos of japanese dudes speed-playing Super Mario Bros 3 in 15 minutes. I'm very happy for that shirtless guy with a halberd, but my point was that, as underlined by several reviews and players, this game doesn't know what "fair" means. Unlike the first DS, it just seems to throw random poo poo at you and coop is simply necessary to survive. Still one hell of a game, but way less balanced than the first. Dude watch that video, its not any speedrun poo poo. The guy isn't even that good. Quite honestly if you can't solo the gargoyles (one of which starts at half HP) then you simply need to get better.
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I beat the Gargoyles by using the gold pine resin you find in the first area to kill one off as quickly as possible.
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Two questions: 1. Where can I find/buy large titanite shards? It sounds like I need a bunch and I've randomly come across a grand total of two of them in 15 hours of game time. 2. I can't go more than a few feet into Blighttown without getting  ed (thanks for two loving poison statuses that function identically but require separate antidotes, From!). Any advice on how to avoid this?
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Almost Smart posted:2. I can't go more than a few feet into Blighttown without getting Paino posted:Yeah well there are also videos of japanese dudes speed-playing Super Mario Bros 3 in 15 minutes. I'm very happy for that shirtless guy with a halberd, but my point was that, as underlined by several reviews and players, this game doesn't know what "fair" means. Unlike the first DS, it just seems to throw random poo poo at you and coop is simply necessary to survive. Still one hell of a game, but way less balanced than the first. The only trick to the fight is just burning down one gargoyle as soon as possible. Try lightning resin, which you buy from the merchant in the undead burg.
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Man I'm having terrible luck actually getting summoned. After sitting around for literally hours at both the gargoyles and capra I've been summoned twice for capra. We beat him easily both times at least. I want to be a Knight of the Sun  Also, if anyone is having trouble with moonlight butterfly or wants to make an easy fight even easier, there's an NPC phantom whose sign is hiden in the ruined building right before the fight. The thing was at something like 10% hp before it even landed.
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Partial Octopus posted:I was just there and didn't see him. The bonfire is shut down there too and I'm already at Anor Londo. Am I hosed? He's sitting in a corner just up the stairs from the bonfire.
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Mr. Crow posted:So what the hell was this poo poo, some dude invaded and he had two ghost players (I assume) with him that I couldn't even target or damage but they could hit me (and killed me)? Where did this happen?
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Volitaire posted:Dude watch that video, its not any speedrun poo poo. The guy isn't even that good. Quite honestly if you can't solo the gargoyles (one of which starts at half HP) then you simply need to get better. Yeah I watched that video, the guy is naked but uses a enchanted halberd that deals loving 147 dmg per hit, while my spear+2 is like 30dps. So yeah you're kind of right that the guy isn't a big deal, but his weapon certainly is. Sure I'll farm poo poo and get buff and at some point I'll kill them but meh.
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smug forum rear end in a top hat posted:Where did this happen? Darkroot Gardens.
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Mr. Crow posted:So what the hell was this poo poo, some dude invaded and he had two ghost players (I assume) with him that I couldn't even target or damage but they could hit me (and killed me)? People in that Covenant get summoned to defend the forest from trespassers. You can hit those ghosts while cursed, and I believe in that area you can also use magic weapons.
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Mr. Crow posted:Darkroot Gardens. Are you sure you were invaded? There are NPCs in that area that look and behave exactly like you described.
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Paino posted:Yeah I watched that video, the guy is naked but uses a enchanted halberd that deals loving 147 dmg per hit, while my spear+2 is like 30dps. So yeah you're kind of right that the guy isn't a big deal, but his weapon certainly is. Rascyc posted:Did you make that +5 fire weapon from a base weapon like a Falchion or Longsword?
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Is there a quick way from the start/entrance of blight town back to kindlefire shrine?
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Welp. Just lost 5 humanity and 10k souls because my controller batteries died.
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Paino posted:Yeah I watched that video, the guy is naked but uses a enchanted halberd that deals loving 147 dmg per hit, while my spear+2 is like 30dps. So yeah you're kind of right that the guy isn't a big deal, but his weapon certainly is. Find some gold pine resin it will gently caress them up. [e]I had a spear+1 when I beat them.
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Rascyc posted:I dunno I thought the gargoyles were pretty fair. The attacks are well telegraphed, there's no targeting antics aside from if someone flies over you (which does get kinda lovely, I'll admit), and you practically have to try to fall off. The attacks themselves are surprisingly weak enough to block reliably. Well I will obviously use the lightning resin now, but am I happy that the first real boss was so randomly difficult that I had to look for help in a forum? No. If that's how the rest of Dark Soul's gonna be, fine, but gently caress From's artistic vision/full immersion poo poo. If boss design is so extreme to become unfair then DS will only be enojoyable via gamefaqs or co-op.
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