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dug fin posted:I moved to Ireland in May, so I drove home with it in the trunk. I visited Scotland once; I don't know if I've ever had a comparable streak of uninterrupted happiness. 
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Thanks to forums superstar funkybottoms, I got my hands on a bottle of Sazerac.  Why is this poo poo $28, and why can't I get it around here? This is a lot more fragrant than any of the other ryes I have, but doesn't even need the lightest hint of water to open it up. Gorgeous stuff.
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Hope I'm not breaking up the Scotch talk with some plebeian, American whiskey discussion. My dad's a fan of bourbon, but I'm not much for whiskey (I prefer aņejo tequilas). I'm currently considering getting him a bottle of (white) rye whiskey, but I don't know if that's too far off from bourbons. I mean, I know it's not aged and, thus, will be harsher, but beyond that, I'm kinda in the dark. So, why am I thinking about rye? I live in Pittsburgh, where the Wigle distillery opened up a couple of years ago. I figure it'd be nice to give him something local to where I live and it'll be whiskey to boot, a double whammy for Christmas! I know last year he had a small bottle of Reservoir Bourbon that he enjoyed (which I did too, from what little I had), so I thought he might like to try another small/local/craft distillery. EDIT: poo poo, Wigle opened up this year! How could I have forgotten. 
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I wouldn't really recommend a white rye. That's some weird tasting poo poo, for real. A nice aged rye will almost certainly be more pleasurable, unless your dad is particularly into tasting weird and different stuff.
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Is there anywhere I can still get a bottle of this Hanyu Final Vintage 2000 stuff? I love Japanese whisky and fancy it since it won the best of the year. Also picked my dad up a bottle of Ballantine's 17 Year Old for Christmas since it's been doing so well in books and that.
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Senf posted:So I'm thinking about picking up a new Islay as a Christmas gift for a friend of mine and I'm looking for something similar to Ardbeg Uigeadail. Dude loves his peat and isn't into overly sweet whiskys (but appreciate some), so any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm trying to be a little more original than Ardbeg 10, though I may just grab a bottle of that and call it a day. Might enjoy the Lagavulin 12 year (cask strength) but like others said the Distiller's Edition may be a little fancier.
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BirdOfPlay posted:Hope I'm not breaking up the Scotch talk with some plebeian, American whiskey discussion. White whiskies usually don't... taste a huge amount like their aged brethren in my opinion. You can tell that it has similar flavors, but a good portion of the time, white whiskies (esp white rye) remind me of blanco tequila and sometimes reposado tequila. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just want to be clear that they are distinct. Son of Bourye from High West is a good example of this. Like others said, get him a nice aged rye. If you can find it Pappy 13yr rye is good as well as "Vintage Rye". If neither of those abound, Willet 6yr or 8yr, Michter's Rye, or Thomas H Handy Sazerac Rye (one of my favorites). White whiskies seem to be a fad of late simply because so many small distilleries are popping up that don't have aged product to throw on shelves and they need to make some monies. rufius fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Dec 5, 2012 |
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I'm going to Scotland in July with my wife to attend a wedding in Aberdeen but we'll be driving to Edinburgh and Glasgow with her dad to do some sightseeing. I love scotch and my wife enjoys it too so we're looking at some distilleries to visit. I like the peaty/peppery drinks, Talisker & Laphroiag being my favorites. I don't care for the milder Glenfiddich or Glenlivit much. I would appreciate any recommendations or general tips!
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two_beer_bishes posted:I'm going to Scotland in July with my wife to attend a wedding in Aberdeen but we'll be driving to Edinburgh and Glasgow with her dad to do some sightseeing. I love scotch and my wife enjoys it too so we're looking at some distilleries to visit. Unless you can make it out to Islay or Isle of Skye you won't be able to do as much of the peaty/smoky stuff. There's supposed to be a bar in Edinburgh with absurd offerings of scotch that date back pretty far. Name escapes me but I bet you could find it with like "famous scotch bar edinburgh <blah blah>". Maybe try to get out to Orkney to the Highland Park distillery? Their stuff is closer to the flavor profile you're talking about if memory serves.
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rufius posted:White whiskies usually don't... taste a huge amount like their aged brethren in my opinion. You can tell that it has similar flavors, but a good portion of the time, white whiskies (esp white rye) remind me of blanco tequila and sometimes reposado tequila. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just want to be clear that they are distinct. Son of Bourye from High West is a good example of this. I can understand that and kinda understand the flavor profiles that aged whiskeys and bourbons (and my tequilas) develop. I just didn't know what was so different about rye in particular, with Wiki being kinda scant on details. quote:Like others said, get him a nice aged rye. If you can find it Pappy 13yr rye is good as well as "Vintage Rye". If neither of those abound, Willet 6yr or 8yr, Michter's Rye, or Thomas H Handy Sazerac Rye (one of my favorites). Too bad that's part of the appeal, getting him something local to me but not him (family lives down in VA). Wigle is one of those new, small distilleries and most of what they have is white, rye or wheat whiskey. They claim that the first, true-blue aged whiskeys will be bottled next November, but that's not much help. Though they will have some bottles (about 320, if I'm reading heir site correctly) that should be ready in 10 days. (Something about small barrels and quick aging.) Thanks for the tips, guys. I should just go down there myself and see what's what with their stuff (they do direct sales and tastings on site).
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rufius posted:Might enjoy the Lagavulin 12 year (cask strength) but like others said the Distiller's Edition may be a little fancier. rufius posted:Unless you can make it out to Islay or Isle of Skye you won't be able to do as much of the peaty/smoky stuff. There's supposed to be a bar in Edinburgh with absurd offerings of scotch that date back pretty far. Name escapes me but I bet you could find it with like "famous scotch bar edinburgh <blah blah>". TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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kidsafe posted:Lagavulin 16yr is honestly a better whisky than either of those varieties. The 12yr Cask Strength tastes like it's been vatted from absolutely nothing but bourbon matured whisky. The PX finish on the DE is the elephant in the room. You get flavors of the standard Lagavulin 16 and then the PX afterward rather than a marriage of the two. I like the 12yr better than the DE but not better than the 16yr. Most of the scotch I drink anymore is Lagavulin but it is what it is. Regarding Orkney, I am an idiot. Dumb American, poor geography knowledge of that region. For some reason I had it in my head as being not ridiculously northwest of Edinburgh. Turns out what I was thinking of was Oban. Dammit.
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Just had a Manhattan made with Knob Creek Rye, and I think it might be one of the best Manhattans I've ever had. I was holding off on getting a bottle of it but now I think I will!
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I think I'm gonna go with a bottle of the Lagavulin 16, everyone. Thanks a bunch for all of your input 
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Any recommendations for a good starter rye? I've normally had bourbon, but I've heard enough good stuff about rye that I want to give it a shot.
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If your intention is to drink it neat, bulliet is nice. If you plan on mixing rittenhouse can't be beat.
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two_beer_bishes posted:I'm going to Scotland in July with my wife to attend a wedding in Aberdeen but we'll be driving to Edinburgh and Glasgow with her dad to do some sightseeing. I love scotch and my wife enjoys it too so we're looking at some distilleries to visit. Glengoyne is within 15 minutes of Edinburgh and well worth a visit. Also give a visit to the Brew Dog brewery while you're there, it's very close to the Royal Mile. The Scotch Whiskey Experience is the obvious stop when you're on the Royal Mile, being right next to the castle, but definitely don't miss Royal Mile Whiskies. Auchentoshan is fairly close to Glasgow. They had some very, very nice Scotches, I was very pleasantly surprised by them. If you want a detour to a beautiful island that won't cost you much, I'd definitely recommend taking a day or two from Glasgow and flying over to Islay. It's probably like a 30 minute flight, if that. The island itself is absolutely beautiful. Some of my favorite distilleries in the world are there, too. You can squeeze in a set of tours through Ardbeg, Laphroaig and Lagavulin in a few hours (they're within a mile or so of each other). Bruichladdich, Caol Ila and Kilchoman are definitely recommended too. Bunnahabhain and Bowmore are also located on the island, but by in large aren't my favorite.
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A slight disappointment: The Caol Ila elements CI4 is very, very smoky, with a greasy heavily burnt character that unfortunately hovers over all the other aromas both in taste and smell. A definite step down from the previous bottling which was fantastic.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Any recommendations for a good starter rye? I've normally had bourbon, but I've heard enough good stuff about rye that I want to give it a shot. Michter's rye is good, although I mostly drank it mixed with vermouth or Coke, so this may not be an expert-enough opinion.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Any recommendations for a good starter rye? I've normally had bourbon, but I've heard enough good stuff about rye that I want to give it a shot. Rittehouse is good. Old Overholt is pretty tasty, especially for the price.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Any recommendations for a good starter rye? I've normally had bourbon, but I've heard enough good stuff about rye that I want to give it a shot. Good starter ryes: Rittenhouse Bottled-in-Bond if you can find it Bulleit Rye Wild Turkey Rye (101 proof) Slight steps up: Sazerac Rye Russell's Reserve Rye Ryes to ruin all other ryes for you forever  Sazerac 18 year old Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye
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Schpyder posted:Good starter ryes: Good luck finding any of these.
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Speaking of which, I received a nice wake-up call from my local BevMo yesterday informing me that some of the stuff I was wait-listed on had come in. They actually had the entire BT Antique series (no more than one or two bottles of each, except for about four of the Handy), and I really wanted the Handy and Weller and even the Eagle Rare, but all together they'd be bank-breaking. Alas. Bolocko fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Dec 7, 2012 |
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Bolocko posted:Speaking of which, I received a nice wake-up call from my local BevMo yesterday informing me that some of the stuff I was wait-listed on had come in. You fucker. Trying to find Stagg around Chicago is proving nearly impossible.
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Weird. I see it all the time here in St Louis. No Sazerac, though.
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Any thoughts on Glenmorangie Lasanta? I've been meaning to try some sherry cask whiskys and it was on sale at the local liquor store.
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gimme the lute posted:Any thoughts on Glenmorangie Lasanta? I've been meaning to try some sherry cask whiskys and it was on sale at the local liquor store. The bottle I had was moderately to badly sulphured (which is a risk with any sherried whisky, I suppose). It was fairly pleasant but nothing earthshattering. I think I liked the dram of Glendronach 12 I tried better. Perhaps someone who hasn't had a bad bottle could chime in?
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Bolocko posted:Speaking of which, I received a nice wake-up call from my local BevMo yesterday informing me that some of the stuff I was wait-listed on had come in. UUGH. That poo poo is so rare in Washington it's sick. The allocation to all restaurant/bars up here was a single bottle each. The whole loving thing, pappy to antique etc etc.
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Just bought myself another bottle of the Caol Ila Unpeated from RMW and picked up a bottle of Laphroaig 1997 Chieftain's Rum Cask. I've been finding some of the Ian Macleod experiments interesting. I'm imagining this one to be a nice contrast between peppery oak, peat and that rum sweetness. http://www.royalmilewhiskies.com/product.asp?sessionID=JRU&pf_id=2666600001656
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dug fin posted:Just bought myself another bottle of the Caol Ila Unpeated from RMW and picked up a bottle of Laphroaig 1997 Chieftain's Rum Cask. I've been finding some of the Ian Macleod experiments interesting. I'm imagining this one to be a nice contrast between peppery oak, peat and that rum sweetness. Rum Cask, huh? I've never tried anything barreled in that before. How does it affect the flavor of the Laphroaig?
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Wow, I saw at Costco a bottle of Macallan 25: It's about $650 before taxes, which here in Washington are insane and make the final price almost $800!
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Thanks for reminding me how overpriced Macallan is. Port Ellen releases are cheaper than that, heh.
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NightConqueror posted:Rum Cask, huh? I've never tried anything barreled in that before. How does it affect the flavor of the Laphroaig? Don't know, will probably be another week before it arrives. Hoping to get it before I host my next tasting event, though. Looking forward to trying it.
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dug fin posted:Don't know, will probably be another week before it arrives. Hoping to get it before I host my next tasting event, though. Looking forward to trying it.
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This past month has been a good one to me:  I'm holding on to the Van Winkle stuff for my wedding, which is in April.
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Mega Boris posted:This past month has been a good one to me: Excellent, and congrats.
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spankmeister posted:Excellent, and congrats. Thanks. As an aside, this will most likely be the last year I try to actively pursue trying to find the Van Winkle stuff. While it is amazing stuff, the recent press has made it almost a) impossible to find or b) prohibitably expensive. There are plenty of great wheaters out there like any of the Wellers. I am hoping that in a few years, when the hype dies down, I will be able to once again grab a bottle of pappy off the shelf at at a reasonable price. This past week I saw a bottle of 15 yr PVW on the shelf of a local liquor store for $300. Next to it were two bottles of Stagg and one of William Larue Weller at the normal price of $70 a bottle. Just shows you the effect of the hype. Mega Boris fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Dec 11, 2012 |
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Yeah couple of years back I managed to find a bottle of old rip 10yo here in Europe for around 60 euro. I thought it was expensive then but I can't even get it anymore for any kind of money. 
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Mega Boris posted:This past week I saw a bottle of 15 yr PVW on the shelf of a local liquor store for $300. Next to it were two bottles of Stagg and one of William Larue Weller at the normal price of $70 a bottle. Just shows you the effect of the hype. That's plain silly for the PVW 15. At least those releases make it to the shelf where you are at. Every place I know has a drawing, but at leats they don't gouge you on the prices.
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I picked up some Laphroaig Cask Strength and tried it with 2:1 water, 1:1 water, and neat. Neat was the first time I had a burn so intense I had to sip some water. It is good stuff, I imagine it is what kerosene would taste like if kerosene were delicious. AFter nursing the full strength I poured a small measure of Thomas Jefferson extra small batch bourbon- it tasted like water after the Laphroaig.
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