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TannhauserGate
Nov 25, 2007

by garbage day

ANAmal.net posted:

That section says you can use any part in any location except the following, so the things called out are a list of exceptions to the "anything you want" rule. So like you're allowed any intake, because they aren't mentioned, but intercoolers have to be stock, and roll cages have to be full-race.

I thought I posted earlier: I don't get the wording either. It says you may use anything except: Roll cage. Isn't that backward?

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Irish Legend
Aug 12, 2011
Since its not listed as restricted, all body modifications are allowed.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

TannhauserGate posted:

I thought I posted earlier: I don't get the wording either. It says you may use anything except: Roll cage. Isn't that backward?

What it means is that unless something is specified(i.e. race rollcage), you can use anything you want. I thought it was pretty clear.

einTier
Sep 25, 2003

Charming, friendly, and possessed by demons.
Approach with caution.
So, in my Facebook feed, I see an interesting photo, with an interesting caption. Sunday Punch probably recognizes this car.



And the caption? "CJWR Car on set with CJ for the Xbox/Forza Motorsport 4 shoot today! — with Bradley William Gilboe and C.J. Wilson."

Apparently, they were digitizing it for the game. I have no more information at this time, but you can bet I'll be asking questions when they're back in town.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Is that the MX-5 cup car? That's really awesome.

einTier
Sep 25, 2003

Charming, friendly, and possessed by demons.
Approach with caution.

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Is that the MX-5 cup car? That's really awesome.
It is. The same one that Sunday Punch recreated back in Forza III and migrated into 4.

Sunday Punch
Mar 4, 2009

There you are in your home, and the soldiers smash down the door and tell you you're in the middle of World War III. Something's gone wrong with time.
That's awesome. If it does end up in the game I'd love to see how my version stacks up against it. For reference:

einTier
Sep 25, 2003

Charming, friendly, and possessed by demons.
Approach with caution.

Sunday Punch posted:

That's awesome. If it does end up in the game I'd love to see how my version stacks up against it. For reference:
I'm kind of curious what this means for the next car pack. I can't remember them ever doing race cars as downloads after the initial cars. I think there was the 908 Peugeot, but other than that, nothing sticks in my mind.

I also can't tell what that black car is in the background, but I'll bet it's part of the pack.

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

einTier posted:

I'm kind of curious what this means for the next car pack. I can't remember them ever doing race cars as downloads after the initial cars. I think there was the 908 Peugeot, but other than that, nothing sticks in my mind.

I also can't tell what that black car is in the background, but I'll bet it's part of the pack.

If I had to guess, it looks like some type of Ferrari. Can't tell the model very well though. 599 or California?

EDIT: Looks like it may be a 458. Hmm. Hard to tell, it's pretty low res.

EDIT2: Almost positive it's a 599 actually.

T1g4h fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Dec 13, 2011

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.

TannhauserGate posted:

I thought I posted earlier: I don't get the wording either. It says you may use anything except: Roll cage. Isn't that backward?
Not if you look at it as "You can use any part except (the following)"
Which is why the guts of the engine specify that they've gotta be stock. :D
Really, I should add valves in there, since I *think* the intent is that the internals of the engine are all stock, but it's a very grey area the way it's worded.

quote:

Engine internals may be replaced by aftermarket or OEM pieces of alternate specifications
So, at this point, I've been going with "valves are free", but I haven't found a tune where I wind up using them - they're in that weird place where if I put on the best bang for the buck parts, I don't have enough of a gap left to use the valves *also*, and I have to step down to parts that give less HP. *shrug*

It's been a fun series for me, in terms of speccing out a car that works well...

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Sorry about the races last night. It's been forever since I've played and I kinda hosed up a race or two.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Doctor Butts posted:

Sorry about the races last night. It's been forever since I've played and I kinda hosed up a race or two.

No worries. I play all the time and still can't pass people without hitting them half the time. poo poo happens V:shobon:V

real_scud
Sep 5, 2002

One of these days these elbows are gonna walk all over you
Finally got my Fanatec CSR and CSR Elite pedals and holy jesus is this going to take some adjusting to get used to them all.

This morning when I tried to do some Rivals stuff to just get the feel of things again, I realized because I've been so used to 2-pedal setups my brain instinctively says "Outside pedal = brake" which doesn't actually do so much for braking.

Anyone who made the switch have any tips on how to get used to the 3-pedal setup easier? Is the best way to simply play as much as you can?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I'm very jealous real_scud. I'm still on a gamepad and I feel like i'm missing 50% of the game right there. Slowly saving up for a Fanatec CSR. I play enough racing sims that I feel I can justify the steep price.

GOD IS BED
Jun 17, 2010

ALL HAIL GOD MAMMON
:minnie:

College Slice

real_scud posted:

Anyone who made the switch have any tips on how to get used to the 3-pedal setup easier? Is the best way to simply play as much as you can?

Yeah, play often; it's the best way to get better at it. Also, make sure you're using the manual + clutch option, so you have a reason to use the third pedal.

e: Use the settings Falken posted up for me last page (I think it was last page), they are spot on.

e2: It wasn't last page, here they are:

quote:

If you are using a Fanatec wheel, use the following;

SEN: 720
FF: whatever you want, 80 is my preference
SHO: 100
DRI: 003
ABS: Preference. I use 85
LIN: 000
DEA: 010
SPR: 0
DPR: 0

e: The real helper here is the DEA at 010. It gets rid of the crazy sensitivity towards the center.

Ingame deadzones at zero and a hundred for inside and outside respectively.

GOD IS BED fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Dec 13, 2011

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


I like those settings, too. Practice, practice, practice!

Edit: oh, but I removed the drift setting. I don't like the wheel using force feedback to help me turn it.

real_scud
Sep 5, 2002

One of these days these elbows are gonna walk all over you

GOD IS BED posted:

e2: It wasn't last page, here they are:
Awesome thanks for reposting 'em, I'll try them out whenever I get out of work.

Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!


Hey Jabs, if the transmission ratios only specify 5 gears, but the Forza race transmission has 6, do we still go with the race transmission or drop down to a level that only has 5 gears?

*edit*
Nevermind, you can't change gear ratios without the race transmission. Derp.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I suggest using just the paddle shifters and the clutch. The actual H patter shifter and the sequential one are alright, but I find it faster to just use the paddles. If you are in a car that sticks to third and fourth the whole time, go hog wild on the H pattern. But when it comes to getting into 5th, it's annoying because the spring fights so much to get it over there. Putting it into reverse feels like I'm going to break it.

GOD IS BED
Jun 17, 2010

ALL HAIL GOD MAMMON
:minnie:

College Slice
But... the immersion! :negative:

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


I use the h pattern shifter all the time. I'm thinking of upgrading to the nicer shifter they sell now.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
The CSR Elite wheel even has a new setting on it called ACL which works in conjunction with Forza's manual clutch system.

What happens is that when you up or downshift with the paddles it 'presses' the clutch button at the same time, giving you near seamless shifts like how it is for pad users with the clutch mapped to A.

Sounds handy as gently caress for cars like the 458 Italia.

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


Falken posted:

The CSR Elite wheel even has a new setting on it called ACL which works in conjunction with Forza's manual clutch system.

What happens is that when you up or downshift with the paddles it 'presses' the clutch button at the same time, giving you near seamless shifts like how it is for pad users with the clutch mapped to A.

Sounds handy as gently caress for cars like the 458 Italia.

Though that is kind of cool for something like the 458, I'd say that it's cheating in multiplayer.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?

Day Man posted:

Though that is kind of cool for something like the 458, I'd say that it's cheating in multiplayer.
Pad users can and have been doing it since Forza 3, sooo...

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


Falken posted:

Pad users can and have been doing it since Forza 3, sooo...

They still have to hit the two buttons at the same time. I'm of the mindset that using a pad is cheating anyway, since the game gives you a huge assist for doing so. Obviously, without the assists, the pad would be impossible to use, but still.

I don't really care, and am not at all bothered by people using it, but when I get beat by someone on a controller, I definitely don't feel all that bad about it.

(I guess cheating isn't really the right word, since I don't intend any malice, but pitting someone on a wheel with three pedals and assists turned off versus a controller with assists turned off as much as they can be is not a fair battle.)

edit: Unless you're on an oval, where the wheels have an obvious advantage for the small corrections needed.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I have my clutch re-mapped to A, and my shift up/down reversed. Basically, when my thumb goes to shift, I hit the clutch anyway. It's much faster than the default mapping, for sure. You kind of just slide your thumb across A on the way to X or B. It's lame, I guess, so I don't care if you have some kind of auto-clutch thing in your $400+ wheel/pedal setup

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
I don't care either way, I got bitchin' hardware in my basement while you're sitting on mom's couch using a gamepad. Awwwyeah.

Banzai 3
May 8, 2007
I'm only here for the weekly 24 bitchfest.
Pillbug
I've been playing this a bit since getting it two weeks ago, and would definitely like the full experience of Rivals mode. Applied to AUGR with GT: Banzai 3

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

Ringo Star Get posted:

I don't care either way, I got bitchin' hardware in my basement while you're sitting on mom's couch using a gamepad. Awwwyeah.

Pics please - I will (not might - WILL... eventually) build a sim wheel setup once I gradjimacate and get a real income, and I the more setups I can look at, the better.

EDIT: super jealous of all of you who are running Fanatec setups.


ericb2410 posted:

I've been playing this a bit since getting it two weeks ago, and would definitely like the full experience of Rivals mode. Applied to AUGR with GT: Banzai 3

Friend request sent - I've got some decent rivals times posted. I'm nowhere remotely close to racers like Harrison, but I've thrown down some respectable sessions.

The Science Goy fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Dec 14, 2011

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
To be honest I'm fast enough with the clutch pedal that there is not really a massive difference between my up and downshifts with the pedals compared to the way I used to do it with the pad in Fm3.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
There is a Game With Devs today (12/14) at 4pm est for anyone wanting to snag some unicorn car(s).

:getin:

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...
So Jabs, is the GoonSpec race still on for Sedona tonite? I know last week's got changed to from Camino Viejo, so I'm just curious.

I should be there either way. And I promise I'll use my good controller and not deafen everyone with my hosed up headset jack.

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

So Jabs, is the GoonSpec race still on for Sedona tonite? I know last week's got changed to from Camino Viejo, so I'm just curious.

I should be there either way. And I promise I'll use my good controller and not deafen everyone with my hosed up headset jack.
Yes, and it looks like there may be some people from the Colorado SCCA showing up, too. MOAR PEOPLE TO BE SLOER THAN *YAY*

Irish Legend
Aug 12, 2011
Im still having problems uploading a big pic to forza's website. Do I have to delete the other one somehow, or is anyone else having the same problem right now?

ihop
Jul 23, 2001
King of the Mexicans
i think you can only have one big file - be it movie or hi-res pic - uploaded to the forza site at a time.

edit: though I thought uploading a new big pic would just replace the previous one. loving Forza servers!

ihop fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Dec 15, 2011

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...

Jabs posted:

...Colorado SCCA showing up, too.

Racers? This should give me a chance to show off how good my skills aren't.

Pinky the Cube
Jul 21, 2010
I am feeling 7 feet tall after beating my friend's rival time after a month of trying. We've been going back and forth on Rally di Positano since the game came out it's starting to get brutal.

The Rivals Mode execution of asynchronous multiplayer has to be my biggest gaming highlight of 2011. The competition is fierce, the victories are a rush, and there hasn't been a lick of scheduling.

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.
All I can say is...
...gently caress Slow Sand.

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speedtek
Nov 26, 2004

Let's make it out, baby.
Work has been slow this month so I just built a Spec Miata in case I get out early next week.

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AwwJeah
Jul 3, 2006

I like you!
Haven't checked into this thread in awhile but I still play this game! Unfortunately I never see a single soul from the LLJK crew during the times I set aside to play. I notice there haven't been any new additions to the club garage recently and I hope to change this very soon!

Here is what I've been driving lately.







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