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Other than trying and seeing, is there any way to check to see whether MoCa or powerline would work better in my house?
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2013 21:12 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 13:22 |
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I've been running an old Linksys with Tomato and it's getting on in years. At this point all the wireless clients in the house are newer than the router, so I'm thinking it's time to upgrade. I'm pondering going whole hog with Ubiquiti gear to satisfy my ego and make me feel like a power user, but on one of the other IT threads, people were saying the UAP-AC has problems. Are those problems such that I should steer clear for home use, or are they only problems that crop up at larger scale? Even when our house is crowded with geeks, we're probably only using a dozen clients, max, counting all the our laptops, cell phones, Chromecasts, etc.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2014 04:20 |
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Quick Ubiquiti review: I recently decided to dump my old Linksys WRT54GL and upgrade to something a touch more current. I gave in to ego and a vague notion that fewer boxes == better than, so I tried to replace both the WRT54GL and my ethernet switch with a Ubiquitu Edgerouter + Unifi AP. That was stupid insofar as the fans on the Edgerouter made a ruckus all out of proportion to my puny needs. I RMA'd it and replaced it with an Edgerouter POE, which was actually a better fit for my needs all around. The initial setup wizard has a SOHO option that gives you an uplink port, a 3 port switch, and the fifth port on its own isolated network. That works out neatly to putting my personal desktop, the Unifi AP, and my TPLink switch together on one network and my company laptop on its own network. By contrast, it took me about ten minutes of Googling to figure out how to get the big Edgerouter configured to bridge 6 of the ports together and get it all working smoothly. Download speeds via my Comcast connection went from 45mbps wired/20 wireless to 55-57mbps for all clients. Vroom. The boost in wireless performance was expected (N being presumably faster than G) but I didn't expect to see benefit from the new router for wired connections. Outside of speedtest.net I don't know that it's actually mattered but it makes me feel nice. ATM I have no particular plans to take full advantage of any advanced features the Ubiquiti gear might have, but I feel geekier just knowing it's there.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2014 05:57 |
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What are the guidelines for chaining devices together on a home network? Right now the signal to my family room goes cable modem -> ethernet switch -> MoCa bridge in my home office -> MoCa bridge in the family room -> ethernet switch. My AV rack is across the entrance to the family room from the switch. Will I be on dangerous ground if I put a switch in the rack so I can hook up various internet-capable devices without running multiple cables across the doorway? Other options under consideration include putting floor access grommets in so I can run cable under the floor, or buying a big-rear end cord cover to hide all the wires across the floor, but switch seems like the path of least resistance. I think. Maybe.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 01:50 |
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PBCrunch posted:They can work well. I'm using MoCa adapters, which can share a coax cable with cable TV. I haven't benchmarked them with other devices inside the house, but internet speed tests show the MoCa-connected devices are no slower than my desktop that's plugged right into the Ethernet switch.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 18:17 |
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Enourmo posted:I am networking illiterate and do not know which category in the OP I need, please explain to me as if I were a small child. Can you say a little about the bigger picture here? Is this an apartment in a small building, apartment in a big building, duplex house, something else... ? Are you replacing the Belkin you have now or is that going to stay in use in some capacity? I ask only because adding yet another device to a densely packed situation might just make things worse for everyone.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2016 22:47 |
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BonoMan posted:I have gone to the Synology Diskstation and enabled the FTP service. I leave it on port 21, default passive port range (55536-67) and unchecked "report external IP in passive mode" I think this is wrong and is contributing to your problem. I'm rusty enough on this stuff that I had to go review the RFC for FTP. quote:PASSIVE (PASV) With that box unchecked, the server will respond to ftp requests from outside your local network with its private/internal IP address. The clients outside your office can't access that private address and will choke on it. (Unless they're smart enough to look at the address, realize it's a non-routable block, and then try the original server address instead, but not all clients will do that.)
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2016 21:17 |
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Axiem posted:Going into the ERX config page, it claims that it's talking through eth0, though due to my own ignorance I can't packet sniff. I hit the "DHCP renew" button, to no avail, and when I run `ip addr show` on the ERX, it clearly isn't getting an IP address from the modem. I have a POE and not an X but when I set mine up, the wizards expected that my computer would be on eth0 and the modem/uplink would be on eth1. If you used the wizard, it probably expects the same thing on the X.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2016 16:57 |
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That mention of MoCa made me Google it and discover that while there's supposedly a 2.0 spec out there, and Actiontec even released 2.0 products, it shows them all as no longer available. Anyone know the story there? I'm not sure if this means I need to snap up a 2.0 kit while they're available, or if it means that they were crap and 2.0 never worked in the real world.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2016 22:51 |
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Danith posted:On another note, anyone else use ethernet-to-coax adapters and cable internet?(http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Eth...iontec+ecb2500c) I know it says compatible with most cable services but I wanted to just see if anyone has personal experience with them and cable internet. Currently using DSL and I'm tired of this 20/1 connection. I use three of those Actiontec MoCa boxes and they work well. I haven't bothered to measure raw throughput but tests of actual internet speed show devices connected via MoCa gateway are just as fast as the PC connected to the router via simple Ethernet. Every once in a while I need to power-cycle one but they go for months at a time without needing attention.
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# ¿ May 4, 2016 01:55 |
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How hot are we talking? Most vendors list operating temperature ranges, so hopefully you could find something. I looked at the specs for the Ubiquiti Touchswitch, because I'm a Ubiquiti fanboy and it's named Toughswitch, and they claim operation up to 131F.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2016 22:30 |
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It never would have occurred to me that having a POE injector on the floor is a power hazard. I have tons of transformers sitting on my carpeted floor, most of them at the end of 1ft extension cables so that I can run them off the same power strip. Am I living super dangerously and never knew it?
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2017 22:08 |
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skipdogg posted:Another thought, if the place is wired for cable you could try some MoCA or HPNA adapters. Not ideal, but another option. MoCA 2.0 looks like it'll get you 600Mbit, and there seems to be some fancy new bonded adapters that promise 1Gbps. I've got three of those in my house and iperf3 shows that I'm really only getting about 350mbps, off coax that predates our buying the house in 2003. I'm happy enough with them.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2018 01:56 |
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I use MoCa but my philosophy is the same. If it has an Ethernet jack and it spends its time sitting in one place, it gets a wired connection. Wifi is only for things that move or things that don't have Ethernet jacks.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2018 16:58 |
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Or try using something like Powerline or MoCa to create a wired connection for a second AP.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2018 17:38 |
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My Ubiqiti AP is sitting flat on to of a filing cabinet and gets its 2.4ghz signal throughout my entire house just fine.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2018 18:40 |
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Grimson posted:In my new place I just discovered that there's a single coax cable that has been run from a closet on the second floor to a spot on the third floor, apparently so that they could plug that long cable into the outlet on the second floor and have the modem (or cable box with a splitter or whatever) on the third floor. My question is, will MOCA work over just that long run of coax? It seems like it should, but I want to be sure. Actiontec says their limit is 300ft max between MoCa devices, so you ought to be fine.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 03:35 |
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The rule is, if you can do it with wired, do so. If it can't be wired Ethernet, see if it can be power line or MoCa. Wireless bridging is the last resort.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2019 00:03 |
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stump collector posted:Can anyone suggest a network diagram software free for me? My dream program is something that I can create devices in, connect cables, then have an output summarizing the point to point connections showing device names and port numbers. Not sure if something like this exists but I am trying to troubleshoot an enterprise network and I haven't done any real work in the industry. I don't know if this is helpful or not, but I am a fan of graphviz, which works in the other direction- you give it a text file describing what you want drawn, and it does the layout and drawing for you. It doesn't let you do super fancy stuff like putting 48 attachment points on a Visio shape, one for each port. On the other hand, once you get the layout you want, it becomes very easy to edit the content of your diagram and let graphviz reflow it for you to keep it all looking nice.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2019 23:09 |
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Tensokuu posted:So I asked a few months ago but I know how things change: You've got some wired networks. Can you leverage them to put the Wifi access point in a more central location?
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2020 20:38 |
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I was also thinking that you could put the WAP wherever the desktop or PS4 are, if those are better locations. Even if you need to put in an extra $20 switch, the performance impact should be pretty much unmeasurable.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2020 21:56 |
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movax posted:I use the Actiontec ones as wired backhaul in my house right now — rock solid, and even support VLANs. I have a similar setup, getting about 400Mbps. With the first generation adaptors, I had to power-cycle them a few times a year to fix link problems, but the MoCa 2.0 adapters have been rock solid.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2020 23:34 |
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I use Actiontec MoCa adapters but I've never seen other devices on my network like that. Maybe it's something built in to newer cable boxes? There's nothing about your plan that jumps out at me as problematic.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2020 04:17 |
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Grumio, I use MoCa but I've never seen anything like that. It's very weird that using MoCa would keep devices from connecting to WiFi. Do they connect and complain they can't access the internet, or fail to connect altogether?
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2021 05:20 |
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I hadn't heard that DOCSIS 3.1 interfered with MoCa, that's a good tip. My own thought is to give your splitters the side eye. They might be reducing the signal so much that your modem isn't getting a good connection to the ISP. I'm with Bonoman. Swapping the modem and adapter is a good suggestion.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2021 20:39 |
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PageMaster posted:I just moved into a 2400sf two story house that's not wired. My last two homes had ethernet in each room, and I ran a router with satellites (like unifi) to cover each floor. I'd like to not install ethernet right now, but the last time I had a single wireless router was maybe 8 years ago and at the time (and maybe still today) expectation for covering two floors was pretty unrealistic (and I was in a 1200sf home). Has tech improved in any way to make a router viable for this type of coverage, or even a mesh kit with satellites and dedicated backhaul? We stream 4k and play games, but don't need guaranteed ghz speeds, just want solid connection and coverage at playable pings. For what it's worth, our house is only a little smaller, and a Ubiquiti AP mounted on a first floor ceiling or more or less the exact center of the house gives us strong connections throughout the structure and out into the yard.
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# ¿ May 6, 2021 15:21 |
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I didn't want to deal with Tivo and MoCa in my house, so I put the MoCa adaptors upstream of the Tivos, plugged cheap Ethernet switches into each MoCa adaptor, and let the Tivo get its data over the Ethernet. Works fine.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2021 21:34 |
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Ihmemies posted:Welp. Well. The server without network card was 1700€, so I guess it doesn't hurt too much to lose a bit extra to the 10Gbe cards. Did you try using /j to use unbuffered IO?
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 20:52 |
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My 6811 has treated me well, and upgrading to it did result in an uptick in my download speeds, as reported by speedof.me. It did not result in any human-perceptible change in my internet experience.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2023 06:36 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 13:22 |
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JoeGlassJAw posted:I've been struggling with network issues ever since I moved in. It's been five years and I've been through three or four router setups. Immediate disclaimer I am a total layman when it comes to networking. I've got gigabit internet from Verizon Fios. Wired into the ONT I get pretty close to that, 900ish. Signal degrades in a huge way over wifi, lots of dead spots. Do you have coax wiring to some of these rooms that would let you use MoCa? Patience to try powerline? How old is the house? What kind of construction? Your description makes me wonder if you've got plaster on wire in the walls.
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2023 20:19 |