The Toyobaru thread: We got the car we asked for, and WE'RE ALL ANGRY ABOUT IT

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Phone: Jul 30, 2005; 親子丼をほしい。

"Insurance"

I'm genuinely excited for this car and can't wait to give it a spin. That and the 500 Abarth.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2011 15:37

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# ¿ Apr 20, 2024 00:07

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smooth jazz posted:

Love the clock and hope they don't fuckup the steering feel.

There's no reason why they shouldn't go with a quick ratio + electric assist. Electric assist is tits.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2011 13:41

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DEUCE SLUICE posted:

poo poo about tranny

Horray for not having Subaru's notoriously lovely boxes!!

# ¿ Nov 3, 2011 15:47

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Cat Terrist posted:

I would also love to know how Mazda also has worked out cold fusion and FTL travel. Because that's how likely a sub 1000 kg MX-5 is these days - 2000lbs is 907 kgs for those that dont know moon units.

So either its the size of a Smart FourTwo or they have invented Unobtainium

I don't know where people have picked up on the 1780lbs figure for the next-gen Miata, but everything that I've read is aiming for less than the NA's weight of 1000kg with the new 1.4L Skyactiv turbo engine.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2011 02:47

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Geoj posted:

http://www.insideline.com/mazda/mx-5-miata/mazda-miata-dieting-for-the-future.html

There's a bunch of links to that article, but a year earlier everything was pointing to 1000kg: http://blog.caranddriver.com/report-pegs-next-generation-mx-5-miata-weight-at-2200-pounds/

# ¿ Nov 4, 2011 04:27

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Uh, it's 660ccs, idiot. GOSH.

That said, I can't wait for the carbon fiber ND Miata. What's the curb weight on the original Elan?

# ¿ Nov 4, 2011 05:44

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Being 5'8 owns. Suck it tall people.

*drives away in a Fiat 500 L*

# ¿ Nov 6, 2011 03:09

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Nodoze posted:

I fit in a Fiat 500 and I am 6'1 !

i would never in a million years sit in the back

Can you even fit back there?

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# ¿ Nov 6, 2011 04:27

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IOwnCalculus posted:

Are Subaru's manuals an actual in-house design or are they really Aisins too?

I loving doubt it. Subaru transmissions are so drat sloppy.

It's good to hear that there's an Aisin box in it. Hoping it's like the S2K\Miata box. :ohdear:

# ¿ Nov 9, 2011 01:37

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Cat Terrist posted:

STI Six speed wants a word with you out back

Note: Subaru transmissions that are prone to breaking and aren't made out of unobtainium.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2011 04:32

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Lowclock posted:

Someone tell me why an MR2 Spyder with about 300hp would not be an awesome car. I have seen like 10 times more Ferraris in real life than I have seen those cars. I drove a friend's sequential one once, and even though it was slow as poo poo, it was very fun to drive.

e: Well, slow as poo poo compared to what I expected at the time.

Ah yes, the MR-S: Toyota's mid-engine ~~sports~~ car with the 140hp Corolla engine. Good thing they made the Celica their flagship sports car and put the 180hp variant into that versus their rear-wheel drive car thing.

Cat Terrist: I know that the STi transmissions hold up, but their 5-speeds are universally poo poo and possibly made out of glass.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2011 18:03

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Is Honda some type of new old-Saab with their fancy V4 engines? :haw:

# ¿ Nov 28, 2011 04:26

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Sports cars: Slower than any given minivan 0-60

# ¿ Nov 29, 2011 18:09

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The engine in the Miata is the MZR...

# ¿ Dec 2, 2011 08:34

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Piano posted:

Willingness to take a 80mm hole saw to your car's radiator cowl is what separates the boys from the men

Freehand.

Drunk.

# ¿ Dec 12, 2011 03:09

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2ndclasscitizen posted:

I have a dim recollection of their being a TRD turbo kit for the 2ZZ-equppied cars (MR2 Spyder, Corolla Sportivo and such), but that was a while ago obviously, and may have been a local TRD Australia thing as I think it was sold through the outfit that did Toyota's rally team here.

MR-S Spyder didn't have a 2ZZ because Toyota's definition of a sports car was front wheel drive.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2012 20:12

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Considering that dealers are trying to offload Honda Fits with navigation for 20K USD, I highly doubt the Toyobaru will be hovering around there. $24k on the super low end at a minimum.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2012 22:39

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^^^ /!\ Anime Alert /!\ ^^^

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Actually the coolest picture in that speedhunters article was

That's a pretty substantial trunk opening for a coupe. This car might actually be useable as an only car.

This might have more trunk space than my Mazda2. :aaa:

# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 03:06

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17s are so expensive, ughhhhh.

Also, to put it in perspective, the Mazda2 has been selling at about 1k/month.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2012 03:03

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TRD supercharger!~~

# ¿ Feb 11, 2012 07:26

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Q_res posted:

Mazda required a lot of Ford's money to build cars nobody bought. Ford just didn't get much credit for it (and a lot of image issues), which is probably why they washed their hands of them.

Or because Ford decided to cash out all of their assets before 2008 would have hosed them in the rear end?

I think Mazda is suffering big time from the JPY -> USD conversion. They build solid cars and as long as they don't get side-tracked into expensive adventures (see: FD RX-7, RX-8), they'll be alright.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2012 08:04

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The Toyota 0W20 is the same as the Honda and Mazda, IIRC. It's Itemitsu and the UOAs on my Mazda2 have come back great.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2013 00:03

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I wouldn't skip shift in these cars. S2000s have the same Aisin gearbox and there's been more than a few instances where owners skip shifting caused the synchros to be ground into nothingness.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2013 04:49

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Splizwarf posted:

Earlier in this thread, someone ruined like 7 pages with rants about the 'purity' of manual steering.

"What has the faster steering ratio? Yeah, I'll take that one."

# ¿ Apr 25, 2013 04:39

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CharlesM posted:

I'm sure Mazda is going to focus on being profitable first before really delving into the rotary world again.

With the yen being down and the CX series selling well, I think they're doing alright.

# ¿ May 2, 2013 20:32

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Takumi nooooooooooooooooo!

# ¿ May 7, 2013 23:18

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Apparently you didn't have all of the goodies because you didn't have the $4000 TRD Supercharger. :smugdog:

# ¿ May 16, 2013 02:56

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The tribal tattoo theme kind of matches the Scion logo.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2013 00:21

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That's some mad tyte 4x4 stance right there.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2013 04:43

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PenFed is also hilarious and will let you finance a 2000 Miata for 4 years at 1.5%. I told my coworker to do that. :v:

# ¿ Jul 16, 2013 03:21

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I'm not holding my breath for the STi, but I'm curious if it's going to be a proper turbo or just a suspension upgrade.

Re: battery chat, be careful with smaller batteries. I know you guys aren't racing, but not being able to start your car kinda sucks when the battery only gives you two shots to get it running.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2013 14:18

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Yeah, OK.

Tell me more how a 3lb battery with a 7.5 amp hour rating has the same exact capacity as a Redtop rated at 44 amp hours. :allears:

E: that specific Shorai has 36Ah

# ¿ Aug 5, 2013 14:34

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I wouldn't want to spin a boxer that high. I know that the oiling is a bit of a pain on horizontally opposed engines, and then you start adding in the piston speed of 8.5k+ RPMs, eh....

# ¿ Aug 8, 2013 22:07

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It seems to phoned in.

Phone fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Aug 20, 2013

# ¿ Aug 20, 2013 04:40

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Do you value the recommendation of "common sense" Internet people rehashing snake oil myths from the 70s or the recommendation from Toyota and Fuji Heavy Industries engineers?

# ¿ Aug 23, 2013 15:55

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j3rkstore posted:

Yeah that was a pretty big mistake/unfortunate series of events.

I wont be ordering a flex fuel kit... ever

I thought I was going to go home early, but this thread is too good. :stare:

# ¿ Aug 23, 2013 19:37

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Solkanar512 posted:

I'm not doubting the wisdom of FHI engineering (I work with their other products on a daily basis), I'm just trying to learn something here.

Definitely, I didn't mean to come off as attacking you directly. If you look around, you'll see a bunch of poo poo that resembles:

"Oh yeah, run it to full redline for 500 miles and then change the oil, my uncle is Smokey Yunick"
"Change the oil IMMEDIATELY!!! The factory fill will have METAL PARTICULATES!!! Secrets that they don't want you to know, my uncle is Smokey Yunick"
"Don't listen to what the manual says, fill up the car with ATF and go 50 miles at 37% engine load and you'll wind up with an engine that never burns a drop of oil, my uncle is Smokey Yunick"

Everybody has an opinion as to what the factory fill magically is and what's the magical number of miles until you should change the oil... or you can just follow the Factory Manual says because despite everybody's uncle being Smokey Yunick, the factory probably has that poo poo down pat.

VV -- Listen to this guy, his uncle is Smokey Yunick.

Phone fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Aug 23, 2013

# ¿ Aug 23, 2013 21:07

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The service manual should have a A/B schedule or something, Schedule A for "hard environments" and Schedule B for everything else. The most engine wear happens at cold start up, and if you're just cutting around town and turning on/off your car all of the time when it's cold (engine that is), you're going to have more wear.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2013 02:53

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All of the info is in the OP. There's a guy named Tora or Torn or something that does like baby's first troll, the rest of it is "wow that sux".

# ¿ Aug 24, 2013 23:15

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# ¿ Apr 20, 2024 00:07

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Buy a second set of wheels and a set of snow tires like every other person who drives in snow. Or be a smug douchebag and point out all of the non-x BMWs, older Volvos, and pick-up trucks that somehow manage to scoot around town with no issue.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2013 01:50

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