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Winter's Bone really is "Katniss in meth country" so it was easy to see why they cast Lawrence. She did a good job though, and frankly I have a hard time picturing any of the other young "it" actresses of the moment beside her as befitting Katniss.
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ClydeUmney posted:I'm just saying, dismissing an actress who scored an Oscar nomination in her first major starring role - whether you've seen it or not - seems absurd. Saying she seems like she might be bad in this is one thing; saying she's not a good actress is another. Well, I don't pay any attention to the Oscars, or any awards (I was unaware, even, that she had been nominated but that makes no difference to me, either way). I just said she "doesn't seem like a very good actor". I mean, it is what it is; from what I've seen of her work so far, I'm not impressed. I can only judge by what I've seen. v  v
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Feb 22, 2012 03:45
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The "take me instead" part in the trailer totally gave me the chills. I feel her reaction there is as it should be.
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Feb 23, 2012 21:23
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Barometer posted:Well, I don't pay any attention to the Oscars, or any awards (I was unaware, even, that she had been nominated but that makes no difference to me, either way). I just said she "doesn't seem like a very good actor". I mean, it is what it is; from what I've seen of her work so far, I'm not impressed. I can only judge by what I've seen. v Well, I will just let this post speak for itself. Do you want to tell us your thoughts on Lenny Kravitz as well? Have you heard any of his songs? In all seriousness, I had zero interest in this movie or the books until I read that Lawrence was cast. Winter's Bone was a great movie and she did an excellent job in it, if I were a fan of the books I would have despaired if they had cast one of her contemporaries. Kristen Stewart comes to mind, ugh, what a disaster that would have been.
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Feb 24, 2012 21:04
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Barometer posted:Well, at this point it's pretty late but all the violence could be handled in such a way as to make it more powerful by not being shown, or reduced to horror movie standards. I'm thinking of Rue's death and in the book Katniss wanted to force them into having to show her bloody body, but you could shoot her coming upon the scene and her face should be able to tell the audience just how horrific the scene is...but then I remember that the Katniss we are getting doesn't seem like a very good actor, and so I despair. Sometimes showing horrific violence offscreen can be more shocking or powerful. I'm reminded of the scene in Fight Club where Ed Norton beats the piss out of Jared Leto. In the special features they have an alternate scene for that where they focus more on the reactions of the audience than the actual beating, and it's a lot more disturbing.
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Feb 26, 2012 19:37
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jet sanchEz posted:Well, I will just let this post speak for itself. Do you want to tell us your thoughts on Lenny Kravitz as well? Have you heard any of his songs? So, you are complaining that I was responding to ClydeUmney? Lenny Kravitz? What the hell are you on about? I guess I shouldn't have an opinion on what I have heard of his music, instead I should...uh, judge him by his awards. Or maybe I should wait for you to tell me what you think. 
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Feb 26, 2012 20:56
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ClydeUmney posted:I'm just saying, dismissing an actress who scored an Oscar nomination in her first major starring role - whether you've seen it or not - seems absurd. Saying she seems like she might be bad in this is one thing; saying she's not a good actress is another. I'm not saying you're right or wrong in regards to Lawrence being a good actress, but that line of reasoning is pretty silly. It implies that the Academy is an infallible judge of quality, which is an odd notion to anybody who's seen, say, Crash or followed Cuba Gooding's career. If she's a good actress, it has nothing to do with whether or not she was nominated for anything.
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Feb 26, 2012 21:24
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Black Lighter posted:I'm not saying you're right or wrong in regards to Lawrence being a good actress, but that line of reasoning is pretty silly. It implies that the Academy is an infallible judge of quality, which is an odd notion to anybody who's seen, say, Crash or followed Cuba Gooding's career. If she's a good actress, it has nothing to do with whether or not she was nominated for anything. Yeah, I thought about that after I had posted, and I guess I came across as harsher than I meant to against Barometer. I do think that when someone is so widely acclaimed by so many people, from critics to goons to awards, judging her in the absence of her major work so far seems unfair. I guess my point about the Oscars is that for someone so young to earn a nomination certainly says something about her talent. I agree that the Oscars aren't really a barometer (  ) for talent necessarily, but I still feel like a performance in an independent film by a young actress that managed to garner Oscar attention deserves more than being passed over.
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Feb 26, 2012 22:16
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New clip of Katniss showing off for the Gamemakers.
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Mar 2, 2012 07:40
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Reading up on The Hunger Games, I was surprised no mention was made of the short story "The Lottery" as a source of inspiration. It is the first thing I thought of when I saw the trailer.
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Mar 2, 2012 17:25
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Lady Frenzy posted:New clip of Katniss showing off for the Gamemakers. That's...pretty good! Of course, one scene won't reflect the quality of the movie as a whole, but one can hope. 
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Mar 2, 2012 18:47
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Dan Hollis posted:Reading up on The Hunger Games, I was surprised no mention was made of the short story "The Lottery" as a source of inspiration. It is the first thing I thought of when I saw the trailer. The Lottery and The Most Dangerous Game are two early inspirations for this base type of story, but Battle Royale and The Long Walk have both combined the two in a very, very similar manner more recently, so they become more apt comparisons.
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Mar 2, 2012 21:02
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One thing that I'm noticing from the trailers and clips is that the cinematography looks really good for the movie. I haven't read the books yet, but I'm honestly pretty excited for the movie. It looks overall well made.
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Mar 2, 2012 21:23
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GonSmithe posted:One thing that I'm noticing from the trailers and clips is that the cinematography looks really good for the movie. That's what I thought. To be honest overall I didn't really care for the books (first was neat, second had good bits, mostly patchy overall), so I wasn't really that interested in the movie, but it just looks like it was solidly made. I'm expecting it to have a little bit of Movie for Teens Syndrome, but I think it's still going to be quality.
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Mar 2, 2012 21:29
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I agree too. I thought the books were good to real while on my flight to and from Australia, but I found too many flaws with the writing to really be in love with them. On the other hand, the movie looks amazingly well made in terms of direction and art design, and Jennifer Lawrence was so fantastic in The Winters Bone that I'm excited for a movie based on a book I was 'meh' over. One thing that I REALLY respect so far is that all the trailers and photos have given away hardly anything about the actual game. If only more movies could do this.
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Mar 3, 2012 20:12
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Barometer posted:So, you are complaining that I was responding to ClydeUmney? Lenny Kravitz? What the hell are you on about? I guess I shouldn't have an opinion on what I have heard of his music, instead I should...uh, judge him by his awards. Or maybe I should wait for you to tell me what you think. I was being facetious in regards to Lenny Kravitz as you were in regards to Lawrence. Whatever, just watch Winter's Bone, Lawrence can act plus it is a great flick.
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Mar 3, 2012 20:55
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The books were a good read if you didn't take them too seriously for a bunch of reasons already pointed out. The movie(s) will probably be the same. Although it was easier to ignore/skim/forget the crappy parts of the book; more difficult to ignore them in a movie. Can't believe people are becoming upset that black people are in movies, though.
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Mar 3, 2012 22:08
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I've been wondering how the film is going to convey all the inner monologuing and thought processing. There's quite a bit of poo poo Katniss mulls over and decisions that are made that couldn't be said out loud at all.
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Mar 4, 2012 01:37
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Lasher posted:I've been wondering how the film is going to convey all the inner monologuing and thought processing. There's quite a bit of poo poo Katniss mulls over and decisions that are made that couldn't be said out loud at all. Voiceover ala some kind of diary or something maybe? I hope that isn't the case and that most of the inner monologue stuff is converted to dialogue, but voiceover seems the easiest route.
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Mar 4, 2012 03:13
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^^^ probably this. Won't miss it though, honestly, I never got the "Katniss is a strong female character!" vibe. She constantly waffles on everything, just can't be damned to decide if she actually gives a poo poo about either of the love interests, and is constantly throwing up her hands going, "I just can't doooo anything!" when it comes to standing up for 'the revolution' or whatever it was. This isn't really always true, and there are some good "standing up for things" bits, but it was pretty annoying.
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Mar 4, 2012 18:44
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Most movies don't need voice overs, as good camera work, acting and dialogue tends to work just as well for exposition/showing how a character is thinking etc. We don't need Katniss to say how poor and starving her family and district is when you can show a run down town with empty pantries in it. You don't need to have Katniss think about how worried she is about Peeta when the scene has Katniss frantically running around the arena looking worried. Even people who are huge fans of the books tend to agree that the prose on Hunger Games was robotic at best and chunky at the worst. One of the reasons I have a lot of hope for the movie is that we -won't- have Katniss's narration.
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Mar 4, 2012 19:14
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Well, if Lasher is thinking along the same lines as me, the concern is more about the many plot points that specifically revolve around Katniss not being able to communicate because her every move is being watched. Many of her words and actions are purely meant to appease an audience, which could come across as confusing or stilted if we aren't let in on her thoughts in some way. It strikes me as the one aspect of this film that has the most potential to misfire. A voiceover could get tiresome, so maybe they'll find a way for her to circumvent observers every now and then to fill in other characters (and the audience) on what's really happening.
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Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:Well, if Lasher is thinking along the same lines as me, the concern is more about the many plot points that specifically revolve around Katniss not being able to communicate because her every move is being watched. Yeah, this. Sorry if I wasn't getting my point across too well. Specifically I was thinking about when Katniss and Peeta were in the cave, starving and she goes on a big spiel about pretending to love Peeta to get food from the sponsors. But there's other parts too.
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Lasher posted:Yeah, this. Sorry if I wasn't getting my point across too well. Specifically I was thinking about when Katniss and Peeta were in the cave, starving and she goes on a big spiel about pretending to love Peeta to get food from the sponsors. But there's other parts too. Keep in mind, the entire book was in Katniss's perspective. The movie doesn't have to/won't be. For your example, they could easily cut to Haymitch saying, "There's a good girl, you've understood my plan perfectly, now keep up the act."
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Mar 4, 2012 21:22
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I hope there is a montage.
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direspoon posted:Keep in mind, the entire book was in Katniss's perspective. The movie doesn't have to/won't be. For your example, they could easily cut to Haymitch saying, "There's a good girl, you've understood my plan perfectly, now keep up the act." Hah, I never even thought of that and throughout the book I kept wondering what those behind the scenes shenanigans would look like too. doomisland posted:I hope there is a montage. A montage of Katniss eating everything.
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Lasher posted:Hah, I never even thought of that and throughout the book I kept wondering what those behind the scenes shenanigans would look like too. Katniss falls asleep while hungry but still tripping and dreams a montage of her eating to "Push it to the Limit". The last 3 seconds of the montage is her looking down on her now huge stomach in disgust.
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Yeah, I'm not saying voiceover is the BEST choice, but it is the easiest which is why it gets used and abused so much. I could see a tentpole release whose main draw is the main character succumbing to the temptation of voiceover just to fill as much of the movie with that character as possible. None of the (brief) footage released so far has any hint of voiceover, so that's a good sign. I also hope we don't see too much of the behind-the-scenes stuff during the games. In the book, once Katniss is stuck in the game so are we, and it's one of the parts of the book that works. Throwing in some shots of Haymitch in a control room somewhere could work, but I'd rather things stay mysterious. Cutting to shots of President Snow growling about Katniss "foiling his plans! Argh!" would turn ridiculous in a hurry.
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DrPlump posted:Katniss falls asleep while hungry but still tripping and dreams a montage of her eating to "Push it to the Limit". The last 3 seconds of the montage is her looking down on her now huge stomach in disgust. This film is going to fuel so many weird fetishes.
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Just found out today that my school (I'm a teacher) is going to rent out a theatre for our students to go see The Hunger Games. We're a small school, and the English teacher who does 7-9-11 grades has read The Hunger Games to her classes for the last two years, so the whole school is kind of obsessed with it. I'm so excited!
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Mar 7, 2012 04:19
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Lady Frenzy posted:New clip of Katniss showing off for the Gamemakers. I'm kinda pissed off about that they are showing that scene; that turn of events is a pretty big surprise for people who haven't read the book. Leaping forward a bit here...how are they going to film the third book? I'm honestly thinking that they will have to scrap a majority of the story...not only is the book a mess and disliked by fans, but it would probably cost a small fortune to film the movie. Arkane fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Mar 7, 2012 |
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Arkane posted:Leaping forward a bit here...how are they going to film the third book? I'm honestly thinking that they will have to scrap a majority of the story...not only is the book a mess and disliked by fans, but it would probably cost a small fortune to film the movie. By then there are much stronger characters like Finnick that have somewhat open roles in the books. I am guessing a third movie will see a lot of the book plot fast forwarded in briefing room montages in favor of fleshing out well liked characters. I am hoping for a spin the bottle scene where Finnick kisses Peeta jokingly.
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DrPlump posted:I am hoping for a spin the bottle scene where Finnick kisses Peeta jokingly. I am also hoping for this...jokingly. 
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Dan Hollis posted:Reading up on The Hunger Games, I was surprised no mention was made of the short story "The Lottery" as a source of inspiration. It is the first thing I thought of when I saw the trailer. All of those "select youths from your group by lot to be ritually sacrificed every year"-stories are cribbed from the Minotaur myth anyway (and that one from reality most likely - many cultures, including the Druidic Brits, Germanic tribes, Celts, Aztecs even the Romans had such things at one time or another). And the guy who told that story is dead for 3000 years now, so he won't complain. Loved the books, can't wait to see the movie. Decius fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Mar 7, 2012 |
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Arkane posted:I'm kinda pissed off about that they are showing that scene; that turn of events is a pretty big surprise for people who haven't read the book. Here's another new clip, Katniss meeting Cinna for the first time. DrPlump posted:By then there are much stronger characters like Finnick that have somewhat open roles in the books. I am guessing a third movie will see a lot of the book plot fast forwarded in briefing room montages in favor of fleshing out well liked characters. I am hoping for a spin the bottle scene where Finnick kisses Peeta jokingly.
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DrPlump posted:I am hoping for a spin the bottle scene where Finnick kisses Peeta jokingly. In the 2nd movie, I'm really looking forward to his barely there fishnet outfit. Also, splitting the 3rd movie into two movies is completely unnecessary. None of the characters are deep enough, and the book is still easily readable in just a few hours.
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Nihonniboku posted:Also, splitting the 3rd movie into two movies is completely unnecessary. None of the characters are deep enough, and the book is still easily readable in just a few hours. But...but all the other cool book movies are doing it
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Mar 8, 2012 04:43
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A lot of stuff in the third book happens "off camera" as it were due to the whole first person narration of Katniss. So its not too crazy that they'd flesh out the war/what happens to Peeta stuff a little more. As it is Peeta's part comes across as really truncated.
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Depending on how Gale does in the first two, they could incorporate more of a focus on his part. Mainly him struggling with his good side/Katniss and advancement in District 13's political field and designing terrible traps and such for use on humans
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Democratic Pirate posted:Depending on how Gale does in the first two, they could incorporate more of a focus on his part. Mainly him struggling with his good side/Katniss and advancement in District 13's political field and designing terrible traps and such for use on humans Sub-plot in which Gale is basically Ender.
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