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sighnoceros
Mar 11, 2007
:qq: GOONS ARE MEAN :qq:
Has anyone experienced certain maps spawning invisible mobs instead of the normal enemies? Also they don't attack or make noise and I think they are invincible.

Specifically, I was checking out KF-Survival and KF-TestMap6p on solo. Is it because these maps are trying to spawn specific zeds and the xmas ones have different IDs? Did they patch out the old models entirely?

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Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Enigma posted:

Hey, Eikre!

I did eventually get the achievement by tossing three SCARs, but it didn't work for me with xbows or m14s.


Thanks for adding the maps! Here is the link to the white list map downloads. You can try to get them from the GotKF server, but it takes 3 seconds to load .1%.

Also, Scyantific, if you don't mind, the 420-Ganja-Farm-Reweeded is the better of the two ganja farm maps, in my opinion. It has two ladders that fold out of the compound during the trader periods so it isn't necessary to weld and unweld the gate every round. I think it also fixed some pathing issues that make it a little more challenging, as well as alleviating stuck zed.

Duly noted.

Also as I add new maps, I'll be adding them to into my Dropbox account and posting events/announcements up in the Steam Group as well as the thread, letting people know that I've updated the map list.

First one will be tomorrow morning since I'm headed to bed early tonight (gently caress finals I'm glad I'm done with them)

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

sighnoceros posted:

Has anyone experienced certain maps spawning invisible mobs instead of the normal enemies? Also they don't attack or make noise and I think they are invincible.

Specifically, I was checking out KF-Survival and KF-TestMap6p on solo. Is it because these maps are trying to spawn specific zeds and the xmas ones have different IDs? Did they patch out the old models entirely?

Are you using any mutators? I had that happen in solo during the current event when I had a mutator on (one of the ones that replaces all zed with type "x"). Turning the mutator off fixed it (and they appeared in all their festive attire).

Niccus
Apr 5, 2008

Cake, jesters, unfaltering love and support.

sighnoceros posted:

Has anyone experienced certain maps spawning invisible mobs instead of the normal enemies? Also they don't attack or make noise and I think they are invincible.

Specifically, I was checking out KF-Survival and KF-TestMap6p on solo. Is it because these maps are trying to spawn specific zeds and the xmas ones have different IDs? Did they patch out the old models entirely?

This happens to me when i try to play solo or make a listen server. They're not invincible, but it's sort of hard to figure out where they are.
(Also perks don't seem to work while this is happening)

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



This thread is the current whitelist thread, not the one earlier linked. Anyone know why Corruption isn't on it either?

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=41919

Social Dissonance
Nov 25, 2002

hey guys lets ride
Could anyone give a rundown of any of the perks/classes that are completely useless for Suicide/HoE? I'm guessing Firebug just messes everyone's aim up completely and does nothing for damage. Likewise, I enjoy demolition, but I suspect they aren't as good either. Those are both of my favorite classes, but I don't want to end up grinding them up to find them non-viable for the "end" game.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Social Dissonance posted:

Could anyone give a rundown of any of the perks/classes that are completely useless for Suicide/HoE? I'm guessing Firebug just messes everyone's aim up completely and does nothing for damage. Likewise, I enjoy demolition, but I suspect they aren't as good either. Those are both of my favorite classes, but I don't want to end up grinding them up to find them non-viable for the "end" game.

Demo is a lifesaver against fleshpounds on Sui/HoE as long as you don't get to nade happy and obscure everyone's views of course.

Nubcakes
Jan 11, 2009

If it isn't broken...
Take it apart and improve it!
I don't play HoE very often, but I play suicide 90% of the time. I can safely say that any perk is useful if the player is competent. Firebug is typically not a camp friendly perk because, as you noted, it messes up people's aim.

However, while kiting when everyone is trying to get ahead of the mob ZEDs having a firebug at the rear can work wonders with a flamethrower. They can easily slaughter all the stalkers and gorefests that race to the front of the mob without worrying about husks. When you drag a mob of ZEDs through a bottleneck(doorway) firebug can also douse them all with fire very easily with very little ammo. Firebug just requires a LOT more finesse to use at suicidal/HoE compared to lower skill levels. You can go through all of your ammo very quickly and VERY inefficiently with firebug. The flamethrower goes through ZEDs so shooting at individual ZEDs is very wasteful. The flamethrower however is a poor choice against a Husk, Scrake or Fleshpound for obvious reasons.

I haven't played with the Husk gun much, but it seeks very powerful when charged. I plan to do some testing with it very soon.

Demolition can be very useful, but they sort of need to stay near a zerker at all times because... well, all of their native weapons are explosives! Demolitions are great if the mob of ZEDs is at a distance, they are useless when the ZEDs are face to face.

Support, Medic, Berzerker, Sharpshooter are all very VERY useful. Firebug and Demolition require more "care" to use effectively on Suicidal/HoE as discussed above. Commando, oddly enough, works very well for "support" Since they can see the health remaining of ZEDs. When fighting Scrakes and FPs one of the big problems is not knowing how much health they have left. Commando can also see the patriarch when it's invisible too. The trouble with Commando is their weapons don't quite excel at massive instantaneous damage like most other perks. Many players have a hard time justifying Commando on Suicide or HoE, but I've seen it used effectively on both difficulties. It just requires a more cautious conservative approach similar to sharpshooter.

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

22 Eargesplitten posted:

This thread is the current whitelist thread, not the one earlier linked. Anyone know why Corruption isn't on it either?

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=41919

It got added recently.

Anyway, here's a rundown of the maps I'll be adding on GotKF, I've included download links as well, because apparently the file hosting site I used for them sucks horribly.

KF-420-Ganja-Farm-V1.rom
KF-Afghanistan.rom
KF-Arcade-Gas-Station-V1.rom
KF-Arcade-Shopping-Center-final.rom
KF-Arcade-Skatepark-FIN.rom
KF-Archives.rom
KF-BellTolls.rom
KF-Corruption.rom
KF-HappyHour.rom
KF-LibraryFinal.rom
KF-LOTD-Downtown.rom
KF-MosEisleyScum.rom
KF-WestLondonNightv7.rom

E:
Here's a useful link that gives you download links for the complete whitelist of maps for Killing Floor. If it's not on here it's not whitelisted. I'll be adding it to the OP.
Map Whitelist

Synthwave Crusader fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 15, 2011

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Commando should be doing trash mob wiping on Sui/HoE and only that, a good Commando is utterly devastating.

I had one on my list that had like 1200 hours and used to be an old quake champion to boot, dude was a monster, nothing would get through when I played with him, all he needed was help with the big things and he would even the shoot small poo poo pestering me while I handled scrakes and FP's.

Crazy part, he didn't use the scar or the pup, just the AK.

Pumpking
Oct 27, 2007

Who is number 1?

Social Dissonance posted:

Could anyone give a rundown of any of the perks/classes that are completely useless for Suicide/HoE? I'm guessing Firebug just messes everyone's aim up completely and does nothing for damage. Likewise, I enjoy demolition, but I suspect they aren't as good either. Those are both of my favorite classes, but I don't want to end up grinding them up to find them non-viable for the "end" game.

Perk choice on higher difficulties is very dependent on the map in question and the strategy you want to use to beat it, but one of the great things about this game is that all perks have their different uses and niches, and all are useful in a variety of situations.

Nubcakes
Jan 11, 2009

If it isn't broken...
Take it apart and improve it!

Alteisen posted:

Commando should be doing trash mob wiping on Sui/HoE and only that, a good Commando is utterly devastating.

I had one on my list that had like 1200 hours and used to be an old quake champion to boot, dude was a monster, nothing would get through when I played with him, all he needed was help with the big things and he would even the shoot small poo poo pestering me while I handled scrakes and FP's.

Crazy part, he didn't use the scar or the pup, just the AK.

There was a crazy commando I played with more than once. He could easily take on FPs while wiping out almost everything else. The only thing he had trouble with was Scrakes. He also preferred the AK over the SCAR. He'd take a pot shot or two at the FP, shoot like 5 other mobs down, and then go back to the FP for a couple shots. I once saw him juggle 3 FPs while kiting around everything else on suicide when everyone else died. By the end of the wave He had killed everything except 8 Scrakes. He took out 3 before cocking up and dieing.


EDIT: One thing that is ALWAYS fun and lopsided is to have EVERYONE be the same perk. Its difficult and requires good teamwork but it's often rewarding and funny.

Nubcakes fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Dec 15, 2011

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Nubcakes posted:

There was a crazy commando I played with more than once. He could easily take on FPs while wiping out almost everything else. The only thing he had trouble with was Scrakes. He also preferred the AK over the SCAR. He'd take a pot shot or two at the FP, shoot like 5 other mobs down, and then go back to the FP for a couple shots. I once saw him juggle 3 FPs while kiting around everything else on suicide when everyone else died. By the end of the wave He had killed everything except 8 Scrakes. He took out 3 before cocking up and dieing.


EDIT: One thing that is ALWAYS fun and lopsided is to have EVERYONE be the same perk. Its difficult and requires good teamwork but it's often rewarding and funny.

Support doesn't seem to have a problem.

Nubcakes
Jan 11, 2009

If it isn't broken...
Take it apart and improve it!
That's because Bro Squad* always wins.



* Neo Tokyo reference

Dirt5o8
Nov 6, 2008

EUGENE? Where's my fuckin' money, Eugene?
Jumped into my very first non-LAN game last night. Holy poo poo is this game so much better with more than 3 people. I need to get my usual friends to play on an open server sometime.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Nubcakes posted:

That's because Bro Squad* always wins.



* Neo Tokyo reference

Bro Squad were goons? I remember playing with some Bro Squad people sometime last year, before I joined the forums. I even added some form of "Bro" to my name for a few rounds.

Category Fun!
Dec 2, 2008

im just trying to get you into bed

Dirt5o8 posted:

Jumped into my very first non-LAN game last night. Holy poo poo is this game so much better with more than 3 people. I need to get my usual friends to play on an open server sometime.

Having two or three people who are used to working together in a public game is tons better than joining a game where nobody is coordinating or paying attention to each other. groups like you are like angels who swoop down and save us morons from Fleshpounds and Patriarchs :)

Dirt5o8
Nov 6, 2008

EUGENE? Where's my fuckin' money, Eugene?

Category Fun! posted:

Having two or three people who are used to working together in a public game is tons better than joining a game where nobody is coordinating or paying attention to each other. groups like you are like angels who swoop down and save us morons from Fleshpounds and Patriarchs :)

I got lucky last night then. We all took different roles and everyone did their part. It was great. Money was shared, Zeds were toasted, a good time was had by all! I wasn't paying attention though and brought my flamethrower to the patriarch fight, wasn't an issue but I was pretty useless.


Also, anyone have any advice for in-game mics? Mine works for teamspeak and skype, but I can't seem to transmit on the in-game system.

Nubcakes
Jan 11, 2009

If it isn't broken...
Take it apart and improve it!

Polka_Rapper posted:

Bro Squad were goons? I remember playing with some Bro Squad people sometime last year, before I joined the forums. I even added some form of "Bro" to my name for a few rounds.

I dont think they were... Usually when one team was loosing horribly in New Tokyo when everyone was on the verge of not even trying or rage quitting someone would sometimes say words to the effect of: This calls for Bro squad! Everyone would then switch to Support(High health/armor), use a shotgun, and stay in 1 single large group. It was actually pretty cheap when I played Neo Tokyo and nearly unbeatable.

I used the reference because in Killing Floor having 6 support specialists with shotguns is pretty much invincible provided no one is trolling or functionally impaired. In a way it is like bro squad from Neo Tokyo.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Seriously the .44 Magnum weight bug is hilarious:


Add a M79 launcher and a katana when we fought the Patriarch.


BULLET STORM :black101:

She Bangs the Drums
Oct 17, 2009

by VideoGames

Scyantific posted:

It got added recently.

Anyway, here's a rundown of the maps I'll be adding on GotKF, I've included download links as well, because apparently the file hosting site I used for them sucks horribly.

KF-420-Ganja-Farm-V1.rom
KF-Afghanistan.rom
KF-Arcade-Gas-Station-V1.rom
KF-Arcade-Shopping-Center-final.rom
KF-Arcade-Skatepark-FIN.rom
KF-Archives.rom
KF-BellTolls.rom
KF-Corruption.rom
KF-HappyHour.rom
KF-LibraryFinal.rom
KF-LOTD-Downtown.rom
KF-MosEisleyScum.rom
KF-WestLondonNightv7.rom

E:
Here's a useful link that gives you download links for the complete whitelist of maps for Killing Floor. If it's not on here it's not whitelisted. I'll be adding it to the OP.
Map Whitelist

Quick Question. where do we put these files once we downloaded them?

az
Dec 2, 2005

Dirt5o8 posted:


Also, anyone have any advice for in-game mics? Mine works for teamspeak and skype, but I can't seem to transmit on the in-game system.

Go to steam settings, voice and set your input device to the correct driver.

Also Gotfks download server is terribly slow.

She Bangs the Drums posted:

Quick Question. where do we put these files once we downloaded them?

steamapps/common/kf/maps/



edit: did anybody check if the m4203 gets bonuses from the assault perk?

az fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Dec 15, 2011

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


Is there still a huge rush going on? I'm thinking about removing the passwords from my servers, but I don't want them to be so full that goons can never join.

She Bangs the Drums
Oct 17, 2009

by VideoGames

Scyantific posted:

It got added recently.

Anyway, here's a rundown of the maps I'll be adding on GotKF, I've included download links as well, because apparently the file hosting site I used for them sucks horribly.

KF-420-Ganja-Farm-V1.rom
KF-Afghanistan.rom
KF-Arcade-Gas-Station-V1.rom
KF-Arcade-Shopping-Center-final.rom
KF-Arcade-Skatepark-FIN.rom
KF-Archives.rom
KF-BellTolls.rom
KF-Corruption.rom
KF-HappyHour.rom
KF-LibraryFinal.rom
KF-LOTD-Downtown.rom
KF-MosEisleyScum.rom
KF-WestLondonNightv7.rom

E:
Here's a useful link that gives you download links for the complete whitelist of maps for Killing Floor. If it's not on here it's not whitelisted. I'll be adding it to the OP.
Map Whitelist

these links are broken FYI. Do you know another source?
KF-Arcade-Gas-Station-V1.rom
KF-LibraryFinal.rom

She Bangs the Drums fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Dec 15, 2011

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

She Bangs the Drums posted:

these links are broken FYI. Do you know another source?
KF-Arcade-Gas-Station-V1.rom
KF-LibraryFinal.rom

Here it is (taken from the Map Whitelist link at the bottom of Scyantific's post). Maps are best gotten there, faster speed without the wait time crap that comes with a free file hosting service.

She Bangs the Drums posted:

Quick Question. where do we put these files once we downloaded them?

Most go in steamapps/common/kf/maps/ as az said, but a few of them have a directory in the zip file that has stuff that goes in .../kf/music etc., so pay attention when you unzip them.

Add me if you play on the GotKF server. I'm on there a lot.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

e; disregard, fixed itself

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

Seiren posted:

I don't know what Steam Achievement Manager is, but I just looked it up and I guess it's a way to cheat in achievements or something?
You clearly used Steam Achievement Manager. There's no shame in it, some of the perk requirements are ridiculous, but denying you used it just makes you look silly.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

Guillermus posted:

Seriously the .44 Magnum weight bug is hilarious:


Add a M79 launcher and a katana when we fought the Patriarch.


BULLET STORM :black101:

ok how the gently caress do you do that

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Idiot race posted:

ok how the gently caress do you do that

Buy Dual .44 Magnums
Sell one of the Magnums
Repeat as necessary

Every time you sell the second magnum it gives you 2 extra space.

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Thanks for the heads up about the broken links. I fixed them now, so you can download from there.

Quick note about the map downloads:

Some of the maps come with other stuff, like textures and poo poo. Make sure you put these in their appropriate place.

Also yeah, someone might have reported the bug to the devs so don't be surprised if they push out a patch that fixes this wonderful bug. :argh:\

E: Some of these maps haven't been added yet because I have to add additional files such as texture/music/etc. to the server files as well. If all goes well I'll be uploading these tonight, with a server restart occurring shortly after. I'll make an announcement in the group as well as hop into the server if anyone is playing and let them know.

Synthwave Crusader fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Dec 15, 2011

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Dirt5o8 posted:

I wasn't paying attention though and brought my flamethrower to the patriarch fight, wasn't an issue but I was pretty useless.

Setting the Pat on fire is great as you can see where he goes when he turns invisible and run him down. No good for a chainsaw rape, of course.

dbzfandiego
Sep 17, 2011
Then we will have to ask them not to.:colbert:

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Also, about using SAM,

In my opinion, there's only one acceptable use for that, and it's for stalker leveling because you know what, gently caress Stalkers. The level 6 requirement is ridiculous. Medic level 6 requirement is easy enough to get because you heal people even when you're not medic. The rest of the requirements are easy as well, damage is easy to rack up. You don't even need to use SAM on welding points. Just leave your game running with one clot clawing at a door while you either hold down your weld key with something and leave or just shift+tab and it stays welding.

I personally used the Doom-Final map (Bob's Whorehouse Servers) to grind all my damage requirements and got them pretty fast. I SAM'd the Stalker and cheesed the welding by leaving my game running overnight with the weld key bound to mouse1 with a clot clawing at a door while I welded. :colbert:

Korhal
Aug 9, 2007
Chaos and evolution, baby.
Can someone who plays on the goon servers regular like friend me? My ID is Korhal on steam. I want to join goons but I can only join games via the server browser, which never lists the goon servers!

az
Dec 2, 2005

Arcade something with the basketball court, music and skateboards owns hard.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Category Fun! posted:

Having two or three people who are used to working together in a public game is tons better than joining a game where nobody is coordinating or paying attention to each other. groups like you are like angels who swoop down and save us morons from Fleshpounds and Patriarchs :)

The few rounds I played on GotKF was amazing because of that. Or, rather, playing with 5 other people who knew what they were doing.

Nubcakes posted:

I dont think they were... Usually when one team was loosing horribly in New Tokyo when everyone was on the verge of not even trying or rage quitting someone would sometimes say words to the effect of: This calls for Bro squad! Everyone would then switch to Support(High health/armor), use a shotgun, and stay in 1 single large group. It was actually pretty cheap when I played Neo Tokyo and nearly unbeatable.

I used the reference because in Killing Floor having 6 support specialists with shotguns is pretty much invincible provided no one is trolling or functionally impaired. In a way it is like bro squad from Neo Tokyo.

That sounds familiar. It was a long time ago, but I think remember most of our team doing that. I was bad at NeoTokyo, so I played a lot of support.

Revolver Bunker
May 12, 2004

「この一撃にかけるっ!」
Started playing this again when the sale came up. Had over 200 hours on my old account before I had to make another steam account. Have 77 hours or so right now and I've already got level 3 sharpshooter and level 1 in most of the other ones. It's not too hard to grind things out. Cept Stalkers, yeah those are a pain. Did they buff the LAR to be a killing machine? I've been using that instead of the M14 because it seems to have a better head shot critical.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Scyantific posted:

Also, about using SAM,
...
I personally used the Doom-Final map (Bob's Whorehouse Servers) to grind all my damage requirements and got them pretty fast. I SAM'd the Stalker and cheesed the welding by leaving my game running overnight with the weld key bound to mouse1 with a clot clawing at a door while I welded. :colbert:

I grinded for all my perks the old fashioned way but use SAM for looking at the raw numbers. However, if you're just going to stick a welding key down with a clot clawing at a door and go to bed, you might as well use SAM and save that time. Neither method is doing it the "real" way.

But welding and stalker kills seem like busy-work, rather than legitimate gaming "practice".

Jeabus Mahogany
Feb 13, 2011

I'm mad because of a thorn in my impenetrable hide

Scyantific posted:

It got added recently.

Anyway, here's a rundown of the maps I'll be adding on GotKF, I've included download links as well, because apparently the file hosting site I used for them sucks horribly.

KF-420-Ganja-Farm-V1.rom
KF-Afghanistan.rom
KF-Arcade-Gas-Station-V1.rom
KF-Arcade-Shopping-Center-final.rom
KF-Arcade-Skatepark-FIN.rom
KF-Archives.rom
KF-BellTolls.rom
KF-Corruption.rom
KF-HappyHour.rom
KF-LibraryFinal.rom
KF-LOTD-Downtown.rom
KF-MosEisleyScum.rom
KF-WestLondonNightv7.rom

E:
Here's a useful link that gives you download links for the complete whitelist of maps for Killing Floor. If it's not on here it's not whitelisted. I'll be adding it to the OP.
Map Whitelist

Figure I should point out the Corruption link is also broken and it isn't on the whitelist site.

Skatepark is awesome fun though

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Dirt5o8
Nov 6, 2008

EUGENE? Where's my fuckin' money, Eugene?

az posted:

Arcade something with the basketball court, music and skateboards owns hard.

Holy poo poo yeah, that was fun. Duel skateboard massacres and slow-mo-jump-from-the-skateboard-headshots.

(and also kicking basketballs into people)

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