Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



zari-gani posted:

All I can say is I just don't have the free time I had when I first started. On the plus (?) side, it's because my career has really taken off, and anything GCCX-related I do now is drawing official art for the show.

And I'm in the last few weeks of an engineering degree. Life has been crazy in the previous few years.

TeaJay posted:

Is the show too niche and/or hard to tackle for people not to start a translation effort?

It's a fundamentally unscripted reality show diving heavily into broader Japanese culture with episodes three times as long as a typical broadcast show. It really is not a simple show to do and I think a few people have made attempts only to discover just how much work the show takes.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



zari-gani posted:

Including taking breaks for meals and whatnot, it takes me a day to translate an average episode, so about 8-10 hours? That includes a lot of re-listening to lines and researching things like pop culture references and seeing how games were localized here, if Arino reads dialogue.

Something like a quiz show is probably double that, especially if wordplay riddles are involved and I have to think of good English solutions.

And it takes me about 15-20 hours of solid word for the timing and editing (the variation being mainly how much text in the episode has to be dealt with). If I have free time, I try to do it in two days with one day dedicated to getting all the audio together and another day dedicated to doing all the visual "effects" in the subtitles and cleaning up any problems before I hand it off.

Obviously that number goes way up with quiz and adventure game episodes.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



And I've always been hesitant about that kind of thing since we're adapting someone else's work.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Kakaricho posted:

Season 23 begins with Pacland on the Turbografx 16.

Should have been the Famicom version only to get Arino super confused at the controls.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



fmuldoone posted:

Just spitballing here since I'm not familiar with their terms of service, but (theoretically) couldn't a translator just upload subtitle files to Patreon and have patrons search out the corresponding raws on their own? That would seemingly get around the copyrighted material issue.

A translation is a derivative work and thus copyright infringement. It doesn't matter if you put it on the video or not.

beep by grandpa posted:

Is there anywhere in this thread I can see how and when our zarigani got noticed and picked up by the show?

It was the original thread where we found out Arino was coming to the US and did our best to get people to show up with stuff. Of course, the post zari-gani drew ended up as the cover for the USA trip box set.

My brother lived down the street so I got him to have Arino sign a DVD box set for me.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Xik posted:

Did anyone from the studio ever publicly state how well the English DVD sold? I'm guessing it wasn't that well otherwise we would have seen more?

I think the game licensing barrier was the greater hurdle for them. It's hard enough for the show to license the games in Japan (Konami is the biggest example of this); in the US it's double hurdles.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Kakaricho posted:

In some sad news, largely un-seen Director Nakauchi (who has been with the show from the start) and, Director "Inoko Max" Inoue have left the show.
Inoue will become a freelance director apparently.

Inoko MAX finally pushed Kan too far. But perhaps he'll get hired back the next time they shoot an segment in his apartment.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Ineffiable posted:

Isn't Athena mostly noteworthy as she's one of the first video game waifus or something? You see her a lot on art. She's even front and center on the snk 40th anniversary collection.

The Japanese instruction manual is even almost like a small manga.

She definitely had that impact in Japan and as I recall it was one of those games where the sexy anime girl on the cover sold it:



Have the original 1980's commercial for the game, too, which emphasizes what they were using to sell this game:

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29691859

Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jul 26, 2019

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Kakaricho posted:

Here are some pictures of the Messe Makuhari live challenge blu-ray.

https://imgur.com/a/E0pblgP

Is that a full, rebranded Love Letter? Because now I'm glad I've got a proper job again and can buy that stuff.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



GooseCanyon posted:

Thanks! Yeah, we try to go for meaning over literal translation, and we also hate when random words are untranslated, but with tamage we couldn't figure out a short way to translate what it means. The Bison joke was just impossible yeah, sorry about that. I think our next episode is turning out better though on these fronts.

The hardest part of translating GCCX is bridging the culture gap and sometimes you just have to go with what gets the same concept across to the viewer rather than the meaning. This is especially true with the jokes and memes. Keeping in mind that you are trying to entertain people with a comedy show helps.

Good luck! I hope your team finds it as rewarding as we have!

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Keito posted:

I'm guessing Aladdin, except the timing's a bit weird with doing it now instead of when it was in theatres.

Maybe the Japanese theatrical release? Except I think that it's already happened. Could be the home video release. Or maybe they're just now getting the new Duck Tails.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Pastry of the Year posted:

TV-NIHON translated that episode about a thousand years ago and it's been about that long since I watched it. I know (I think?) SA-GCCX had a policy about not re-translating episodes that other groups had already done, so your viewing experience may vary from your expectations.

We don't have a policy per se, just less interest in redoing things that have been done before.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Kakaricho posted:

Next challenge is Meikyuu Jiin Dababa on the Disk System.
It looks...interesting.

It's a game that weirdos like.

So, obviously I kinda like it.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



TeaJay posted:

I also recently started watching GCCX again from the beginning in chronological order. It's nice to see the show grow over the years. It's a funny thing how the early seasons always end in a sentimental way, which I guess was due to them not really knowing if the show would be renewed for a new season. (which is not an issue anymore)

Well, they knew the show was finished at the end of certain seasons which is why those episodes end with a "Thank you! Maybe we'll get to do something like this again as a special sometime!" Two of the seasons were cut short which is why the Link to the Past episode is actually a two parter edited down to poorly fit into a single episode. The episode that ends with "Bridge Over Troubled Water" has an epitaph for the show. I think the third time the show was canceled and came back they stopped that.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



RabidWeasel posted:

What game is the second one? I don't remember that at all.

Adventures of Tom Sawyer. Not to be confused with the incredibly racist Square's Tom Sawyer.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



SkeletonHero posted:

Have they done Maniac Mansion? That would be an awesome game for a hypothetical future US special.

The Famicom version is a different, worse game than the NES version. It's kind of an infamous port.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



univbee posted:

Its release predates the western NES versions’ releases by over two years.

Also, ported by Jaleco rather than LucasArts and Jaleco has a spotty history to put it kindly. Jaleco also ported the western computer adventure game Murder on the Mississippi to the Famicom and that one was a real mess as well since it had no continue or saves. For the Famicom Maniac Mansion they added a password system: a 106 character password.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Mister Chief posted:

drat. He should play Typing of the Dead.

The thought of trying to subtitle that just made me break.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



joek0 posted:

https://twitch.tv/cardfrek

You can watch a live stream of the the 300 episode celebration live challenge on this twitch stream.

Arino is never going to grasp the implications of the screen wrapping, is he? So many of the things he has trouble with would be resolved by just walking off the side of the screen and appearing on the other.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Ganty posted:

Joined. Man, I had no idea about Lowtax. What a freakin dingus.

Can't wait for the new Dragon Quest episode. Been going through the backlog and watching old episodes to keep me at bay. I might have to start watching the raws.

A couple that I really enjoyed:
S14 108 Smart ball aka "Jerry Boy"
S17 173 Oishinbo the ultimate menu

Any suggestions that I should watch RIGHT NOW?

Fun fact about Oishinbo. It was an adventure game so that was about 60-80 hours of timing work. Whiling doing that I marathoned every episode of Iron Chef. I was one episode into IC America when I finished (Shatner version).

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Nipponophile posted:

Pro work on the translation, geese.

Also, thread title change to "A Let's Play Pioneer"?

I'm for it. You can report this post to suggest it to a mod.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Kakaricho posted:

Next challenge is Devil Dice on the PS1.

I literally just got a copy of that game in the mail today and was about to go put it in...

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



It was definitely Inoue, right? We're all in agreement on that without seeing the video.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Kanfy posted:

Having every single episode of GCCX be fresh is a blessed place to be, keep us posted. And yeah, there seem to be a lot of cool old Japanese game guides.

There's actually a guidebook to Famicom guidebooks I've been meaning to buy...

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Coffee Jones posted:

Thanks for clearing that up -

Top Gear they can pull a stunt where Jeremy drives a micro car into the BBC offices and the camera records people working on everything from news and sports coverage to TV dramas, and there's a rotating cast of tv presenters, everyone knows everyone else, and works out of the same cluster of buildings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfSS0ZXYdo

So, that kinda what it looked like to me. Like you'd expect them to record out of a tiny spare room in the building next to everything else Fuji TV produces.

Actually, they've shot in (and around) the Fuji TV building at Odaiba quite a few times. If you're through the first season, then you've seen one of them: Arino plays Steel Batallion in the big theater they have there. The general rule of thumb is that for any of the live broadcasts they have to shoot at Fuji TV, though there's a couple of other times they've used facilities there.

In the earliest episodes, most of the challenges take place in a conference room at Arino's agency. By season three, they mainly shoot in a spare room at the production office. Since they're working from locations that weren't intended as television studios, there's some odd quirks that happen.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Help Im Alive posted:

I don't think I had even heard of esports in 2007 to be honest

I had, but thought the term was really stupid and people were trying to make having people watch other people playing video games into a thing. That would never take off! :v:

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Doc Hawkins posted:

seems like japanese folks call out games as being western when they have, like, guns and blood in them. it sounds like they aren't sold in the same stores or something?

A lot of the M rated games in the US are not sold off shelves in Japan. There was a crackdown on this in the mid-2000's and buyers have to go to what is basically the porn room at the video store to get them.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



makere posted:

This game looks so bad, was it a port of some older arcade game?

Nope. It is the very first game Hudson made for their PC Engine console (though not the first released) and it's basically a slightly enhanced tech demo of the sprite technology.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Congratulations to zari-gani! I'm not sure where you can honeymoon right now, but I hope you enjoy it!

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Finally Arino shall play the greatest of all possible games: Crazy Frog Racing.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



PlanetFlavor posted:

Unreasonable specifications of transcendental difficulty.

Arino challenges Dragon's Lair on Famicom next. Screenshots show him getting to level 3 at least which is impressive. Epic episode incoming.

Dammit. I don't have that yet since it's a but of a rare and expensive game and being on GCCX always makes prices spike. Arino should play something cheap or that I already have a copy of.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



wocobob posted:

A couple random GCCX questions I figured you guys would know the answer to:

1: What's the "Megaman 2 Live" episode? (listed as SP-11 on the SA-GCCX site). I've heard about other live shows but not that one.

2: Just out of curiosity: why has the Yuji Horii interview never ended up subbed? To be clear, I'm not bothering people in the thread to sub it, just curious because it stuck out like a sore thumb in the first ~130 episodes. Does it just have a ton more talking than normal challenge episodes?

For the interview, there was a double whammy of not much interest and the only source file being abysmal. The sources we had for that season in general were pretty awful, but that was the bottom.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



The best options are the approachable ones. The "I know that game! It's hard!" where Arino gets knocked around but manages to pull it off. Ninja Gaiden would be a good choice, though the segments had to be separated out.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




We're all crumbling into dust on this one.

EDF release date: June 26, 2003
First broadcast of GCCX: November 4, 2003

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Pastry of the Year posted:



I ordered a copy of this just to display next to my Arino figure.

We're all getting old, aren't we?

He looks so much older than he did on his first Continue cover. He looks ready to be the sachou.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



ZZT the Fifth posted:

Were any of the TMNT games released in Japan?

Yes. The original one wasn't released under the TMNT title, it was Geki Kami Ninja Den. But after that the Turtles started airing in Japan under the English title so the next two 8-bit games were released as Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles only with the numbering off by one. They did not get the 8-bit Tournament Fighters, though. In the 16-but era, Turtles in Time was released in Japan, though IIRC it used a different title than TMNT. Hyperstone Heist got a similar release.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



TeaJay posted:

TMNT 1 (Geki kami ninja den) would probably be the most interesting since it's got a bit more than just side-scrolling beat'em up (done well, mind you). Still thinking can it be some kind of swerve because Turtles are so obvious.

The collection was just released so this is a bit of cross promotion.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



The Kins posted:

The next episode is confirmed to be TMNT2: The Arcade Game for the Famicom!

Just played that yesterday. It's actually easier than the NES version as the jump kick does more damage and there's fewer enemies.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



joem83 posted:

Season 26: Episode 14 (#350) "A Mario game" premieres on Thursday, December 8th.

I wonder what it'll be? Maybe Sunshine?

Hotel Mario at last!

Mario Sunshine is the likely bet, but I wouldn't say no to Mario Kart 64

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



joem83 posted:

Kuso is quite the versatile word, I thought it just meant "drat" or "drat it" but thinking back I remember seeing it translated as poo poo in the old episodes. I replayed Sunshine recently when they put it on the Switch, but I don't remember. Google says about 15-16 hours and I think that sounds about right, it would definitely be a 2 part episode.

It literally means poop and it's used as an expletive, but it's a lot milder than "poo poo". I recall in one episode Arino goes "kuso" in front of some kids and I switched the "poo poo" in the script for "crap" since I felt it was giving the wrong impression in the scene, though zari-gani disagreed strongly with that feeling that I made it more nasty. (Not trying to stir anything up on this: language is vague, people interpret phrases differently, and there isn't a right or wrong option. This was a situation where zari was the translator and scriptwriter while I was the editor and sometimes there are going to be disagreements there.)

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply