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Katsuma
Sep 12, 2007
For All Brave Silpheed Pilots

Welp. My hopes are dashed. And they sound so loving proud of it all, too.

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Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


Another interview, this time from Gameinformer Magazine:

I'd normally try to transcribe it, but gently caress it:




To sum it up - Ninja Theory isn't Japanese. (duh)
More stuff they treat as innovative, but has actually been in the series since at least 2. (weapon changing during combos, etc)
Alternate modes of play as well as being able to revist previous levels. A return for the Bloody Palace perhaps?
More Angel/Devil Arms and guns.
No QTEs.
Stand alone story (duh), but with "familiarity in some characters and themes" (an attempt at fanservice probably).
Ninja Theory isn't a force of evil sent to destroy the DMC series. (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. )

source:http://devilmaycry.org/community/th...ew.10917/page-2

[e]: I got over intensely disliking it when they redid Dante's redesign so he didn't look like a drug-addled rent boy. Now I'm apathtic about the game itself, but curious about what the end result will be.
Considering the bizzare publicity and the rather less-than-underwhelming, game footage. And all the talk about how great the story is blah blah blah.

I just can't help but think it's going to be the best NT game they've ever made, but one of the lesser DMCs, or one of the DMC clones. If I'm wrong, and it turns out to be the best things since, well, Bayonetta, then I have no shame in admitting that my preconceptions were unfounded, and that I was wrong.

And yeah, the art direction is pretty nice. But that's really where NT's speciality lies - certainly not with writing.
VVV

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at May 10, 2012 around 21:37

Balobam
Apr 28, 2012



To me at least this game has sounded like it's improved tenfold since it was originally announced.

I mean I'm still somewhat sceptical, but I no longer hate hearing about it, as each thing just seems to be mentioning improvements. And as unlike the previous iterations as it is, I do quite like the art direction of this one, looks nice.

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!



No QTE? Well at least Ninja Theory learned one thing from their past games my god. I dunno though with how they describe the "triggers" it does sound painfully close to heavenly sword. I played that and found it was really god drat bad so if this is similar to that then fuuuck.

All these interview just sound like they don't have the confidence to let the game speak for itself and instead have to keep saying how great the story is and that the gameplay is so unique does not fill me with confidence. That is never a good sign. It's way beyond the usual hype and strikes me as way strange at this point.

I dunno every interview from them just seems like they have no understanding of the DMC series. People wouldn't be so worried if they were just like "Hey we know DMC and all the good stuff is in our game, styles, weapon switching mid combos, that goofy yet serious story line, we got it all covered." then they could mention some favorite parts from the last games and everyone would be all on board. Instead they constantly talk about how original they are and how great the story is. Why is the story great? Cause it's great duh.

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life,
I think I've gone too far.


Pesky Splinter posted:

I suppose it boils down to who owns the rights to her. And there's still a chance that more characters will be playable, and that she may be among them. It's unlikely though with Platinum Games upcoming brawler, which she stars in.

Best news to come out of this thread, drat.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!


Lipstick Apathy

Haha, yeah. Somebody needs to make an Anarchy Reigns thread eventually, but it's still too soon.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!


Grimey Drawer

I am not a fan of the triggers thing but if you can actually cycle through all the weapons in combat in a fluid manner then the game has a shot at being interesting, I think. I always liked how you controlled which attack you were doing in the previous DMC games by button rhythm- so if you wanted to do a heavy attack you kind of had to think about it beforehand and input the right stuttered string of button presses. It really prevented button mashing!

keet
Aug 20, 2005



Monkey Fracas posted:

Maybe now that Cool Dante isn't so busy he can show up in the next Bayonetta game? (Please Capcom? )

Bayonetta sorta straddles the Strong Female Characters argument as it is, I don't know if she'd be palatable having (a male) co-star like Dante of equal legitimacy in it considering she'd probably end up simplified to pure sex appeal (veruss being a competant smartass with sex appeal).

keet fucked around with this message at May 13, 2012 around 22:16

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?


notZaar posted:

Haha, yeah. Somebody needs to make an Anarchy Reigns thread eventually, but it's still too soon.
Anarchy Reigns: Three days! Three acres! THREE THOUSAND MEN!

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!


Lipstick Apathy

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/p...mc-devil/730290

Interview with a producer from Capcom USA. Nothing new except for some more gameplay footage and a mention that there may be DLC down the road.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


Let's hope they don't follow Capcom's usual DLC practices.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011


Looks like DmC will be released on the PC: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/201...bound-in-2013/.

Most of Capcom's stuff is on Steam, so I guess it's likely it'll go on there along with DMC3 and 4. I hope they put a discount on those two while promoting DmC; if it sucks, then at least I can have the best two games on my account on the cheap.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!


Lipstick Apathy

Promoting DMC3 for PC will probably do way more harm than good, it is an awful port. DMC4 goes on sale regularly during the big Steam promos.

I'm glad 'DmC' will be out on PC, at least there will be one avenue to play it at 60 FPS. The console versions are scheduled to be released on Jan 15, and the PC release is a nebulous "later". Why do PC ports always get the shaft on release dates?

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010



notZaar posted:

Why do PC ports always get the shaft on release dates?

My guess is that it's to prevent the PC version from being leaked or cracked at release, allowing people to pirate it. By releasing the console version first, you have to buy it on a console in order to play it as soon as possible.

Not that this is a good system, seeing that the number of legitimate PC customers far outweigh the profit lost due to piracy. It shouldn't even be difficult to port, considering it's on the Unreal engine.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


notZaar posted:

I'm glad 'DmC' will be out on PC, at least there will be one avenue to play it at 60 FPS.

At which point, Limbo will have messages appearing on the walls saying "STOP IT WE CAN'T HANDLE THIS MANY FRAMES! WHAT ARE YOU DOING! WE WERE ONLY PROGRAMMED FOR THiRtY blurghalblurghblugh..." before melting the disc into a puddle.

Mr. Fortitude
Jul 9, 2010


That loving Sned posted:

My guess is that it's to prevent the PC version from being leaked or cracked at release, allowing people to pirate it. By releasing the console version first, you have to buy it on a console in order to play it as soon as possible.

Not that this is a good system, seeing that the number of legitimate PC customers far outweigh the profit lost due to piracy. It shouldn't even be difficult to port, considering it's on the Unreal engine.

It's also a flatout lie and misconception developers have too. A PC game using Steamworks can't be pirated until after the game is already out, yet I see 360 games get leaked and pirated weeks... even months before the release date.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


Info on that woman that Dante follows around, or follows Dante around:

Kat

Kat is a former runaway that joined The Order very early in her life. She is a medium and a gifted psychic who can see into Limbo, the demon realm, but not directly interact with it in the way that Dante does. She is the right hand girl of the Leader of The Order and devotes her very life to him, often putting herself in grave danger to gather intelligence from Limbo.

There is a sweet innocence about Kat’s world view and logic, but when it comes to her specialist subject, the demon realm, she is an undoubted expert. Kat is The Order’s ‘eyes and ears’ and is tasked with guiding Dante on his mission through Limbo.
---

Judging by the bindi (the jewel on her forehead) and the mehndi designs on her hand, I think they seem to have been inspired by Hinduism for her design. Well, those parts anyway.

Not really alot to say about it otherwise. It's no Lady or Trish, but (thankfully) it's no Gloria either.

Source: http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregama..._character_info

[e]: @ NotZaar, you might want to update your OP with the PC info.

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at May 23, 2012 around 22:11

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!


Lipstick Apathy

What the hell is "The Order"? They probably should have said something about that first.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


At a guess, the terrorists that Not-Fox was talking about. They could at least have something though, even it was "The Order is the order that Kat works for. It is an order of people. They called it the Order, because imagination is hard. Order."

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


A DMC sequel in the works?

quote:

Publisher plans to reduce release cycles for sequels to 2.5 years, blames series' extended hiatus on switch to external development.

Capcom doesn't want to keep its fans waiting for more of their favorite series. The Japanese publisher today released English translations of executive comments indicating that it wants to wait no more than 2.5 years between sequels, starting with franchises like Lost Planet and Devil May Cry.

Capcom has plans for more Devil May Cry.

"We want to reduce the time needed to develop major titles from the usual three-to-four years to only 2.5 years," Capcom chairman and CEO Kenzo Tsujimoto told investors. "Speeding up development will probably raise the cost. But creating quality content will be vital to Capcom's ability to survive by overcoming intense global competition."

In his own comments, Capcom president and COO Haruhiro Tsujimoto noted that Lost Planet 3 is on pace to hit the 2.5-year goal, while Resident Evil 6 is arriving some 3.5 years after its predecessor.

"For DMC Devil May Cry, development will require five years due to the time needed to select development companies because of our decision to switch to external development," Haruhiro Tsujimoto said. "But our goal is to reduce the cycle to 2.5 years for subsequent titles in this series."

Source: http://uk.gamespot.com/news/capcom-...in-2015-6378261

If we're lucky, it might even be a regular DMC sequel. Of course, if it's for DmC, well...it's a bit presumptive of them.

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at May 25, 2012 around 21:04

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

You don't want my life. What do I have to show for it? Chozo DNA in my body, Metroid Prime blood on my hands, and a foot locker full of Ridleys.


Surprisingly she isn't a red head, considering they have a strong thing for that in all their loving games.

And we all know what happened the last time a DMC game had a drat red head in the game.

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010



Pesky Splinter posted:

A DMC sequel in the works?

2.5 years between games sounds pretty good, because it's similar to the rate that most PS2-era series would get sequels. This generation, a lot of series like Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy took years to release their first next-gen title, with the next one coming out near the end of the generation or even missing it altogether.

If a game is taking more than 3 years to develop, that's usually because of poor planning. However, I can't stand annual games, due to the minuscule improvements that they tend to bring. Resident Evil has been thoroughly milked over the past year, and I don't want to see that happening to other series as well.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


Pre E3 interview with Alex Jones (Producer):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWWjtbXw6lY

To summarize, it's pretty much everything we've already heard before, with him just waffling.

Example:

quote:

Yeah, I think the primary thing was to make sure that the character, was the right character for the story that we wanted to tell, so we updated the visuals; made it more modern, more literally relevant.

What does he mean by "literally relevant"?

[e]: And Limbo is still a transparent Purgatorio ripoff.

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life,
I think I've gone too far.


Relevant in terms of modern literature.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


Schubalts posted:

Relevant in terms of modern literature.

So a story on the level of Twilight then? Makes sense.

I suppose if they did a telling of the Divine Comedy, people would say they were ripping off Dante's Inferno.

[e]: DMC: San Andreas
VVV

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at May 27, 2012 around 21:20

Italax
May 10, 2012

Part of the problem.

Pesky Splinter posted:

Info on that woman that Dante follows around, or follows Dante around:

Kat

Kat is a former runaway that joined The Order very early in her life. She is a medium and a gifted psychic who can see into Limbo, the demon realm, but not directly interact with it in the way that Dante does. She is the right hand girl of the Leader of The Order and devotes her very life to him, often putting herself in grave danger to gather intelligence from Limbo.

There is a sweet innocence about Kat’s world view and logic, but when it comes to her specialist subject, the demon realm, she is an undoubted expert. Kat is The Order’s ‘eyes and ears’ and is tasked with guiding Dante on his mission through Limbo.
---

Judging by the bindi (the jewel on her forehead) and the mehndi designs on her hand, I think they seem to have been inspired by Hinduism for her design. Well, those parts anyway.

Not really alot to say about it otherwise. It's no Lady or Trish, but (thankfully) it's no Gloria either.

Source: http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregama..._character_info

[e]: @ NotZaar, you might want to update your OP with the PC info.

Mini-game to spray graffiti everywhere confirmed?

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010



Pesky Splinter posted:

DMC: San Andreas

Jet Cry Radio

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


Found this (it's dated from the 11th of May):

Capcom Projected Sales Targets posted:

Capcom expects to have four million sellers this fiscal term. In supplemental earnings materials issued today, the company revealed the following shipment targets:

Resident Evil 6: 7 Million

DmC Devil May Cry: 2 Million

Dragon's Dogma: 1.5 Million

Lost Planet 3: 1.4 Million

For comparative purposes (approx):

DMC1: 2 Million
DMC2: 1.7 Million
DMC3: 1.3 Million
DMC4: 2.3 Million

Source: http://andriasang.com/con0zg/capcom_sales_targets/

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!


Lipstick Apathy

Live stream from E3 with director's commentary this Wednesday https://www.facebook.com/devilmaycry?sk=events

Captain Baal
Oct 22, 2010


Official E3 Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoU2IDR8pY4

Noteable Notes: gently caress, kind of cool techno club stuff, gently caress, new screamo music, gently caress, THE ORDER, gently caress, I AM A GOD villain and did I mention gently caress?

ChewyLSB
Jan 13, 2008

Destroy the core


More video games confusing swearing for writing. This is sure the Devil May Cry reboot I wanted.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!


Grimey Drawer

Ha ha, an Anonymous ripoff guy against not-Fox-News? MAXIMUM EDGINESS. That club scene transforming into a giant monster arena sure did look neat though- if nothing else, this game is going to have some cool setpieces. Also Dante seems to be getting slightly more likeable in each trailer, so that's good.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!


Lipstick Apathy

I am trying to keep an open mind about this game but all the plot they are pushing just seems so trite and simplistic. Dante's one-liners are so loving bad too. Not even cheesy bad, just bad.

By the way, did you notice the tattoo on the general's forehead? Does it look a little familiar to anybody else? Hmmmmm...

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


notZaar posted:

I am trying to keep an open mind about this game but all the plot they are pushing just seems so trite and simplistic. Dante's one-liners are so loving bad too. Not even cheesy bad, just bad.

By the way, did you notice the tattoo on the general's forehead? Does it look a little familiar to anybody else? Hmmmmm...

Helloooo Mundus. I think you were better as a giant statue than a Lex Luthor rip-off.

Liking the visuals, but the writing and ahem, "social satire" just keeps getting worse and worse though.

Also FUUUUUCKKKKKKK. Fuckity gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress. gently caress. We wanna earn that rating, fuckers!

[e]: Oh, apparently there's preorders for stuff:

quote:

Amazon: Pre-order Devil May Cry and receive the exclusive bone weapons and character perk. Transform Dante's shotgun, scythe and axe into precision crafted bone and strike fear into the hearts of the demon world! You’ll also receive access to the orb harvester – allowing you to collect hoards of extra red orbs to upgrade your weapons and combos, as well as purchase items. A code to access the exclusive content will be emailed to you within two days of your order shipment. This offer will be extended to all pre-orders. Offer valid when shipped and sold by Amazon.com, while supplies last. Amazon reserves the right to change or terminate this promotion at any time.

Gamestop: Samurai Pack: Transform Dante's shotgun, scythe and axe into Samurai devastators! You'll also get 3 free upgrade points.

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at Jun 4, 2012 around 21:06

Exmond
May 31, 2007


ChewyLSB posted:

More video games confusing swearing for writing. This is sure the Devil May Cry reboot I wanted.

And you play the Devil May Cry games for their writing..

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life,
I think I've gone too far.


What is a samurai devastator? Do they have pictures of these things?

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007



Man, it's like they were trying to go for "cheesy" and instead went right into "unlikable douche."

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


Schubalts posted:

What is a samurai devastator? Do they have pictures of these things?

Not that I can find. I think they'll just be reskins.

Exmond posted:

And you play the Devil May Cry games for their writing..

Ninja theory want people to play this one for the story.

quote:

This is also the first game I've written, cast and directed myself. If I do my job right, you should be seeing a story of Dante that breaks the myth that all videogame stories are trite and will never stand up to the best that theatre and film have to offer."

Looking at that quote, without bursting into fits of laughter, do you see the slight incongruity between what they've said, and what's been shown thus far? The other games at least didn't focus too heavily on the story - it's more there to provide a context to the fighting, and wasn't as agressively marketed as the story to this has. And, for all their faults, they weren't so loving stupid as to try to offer social commentary in the most ham-handed way possible, and then claim that it was good writing.

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at Jun 4, 2012 around 21:40

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


New Concept art has emerged:

Multi-armed statue:


Bug monster:

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GUI
Nov 5, 2005



the cutscenes look like the most entertaining thing about this game so far, but i guess i should be hating them since they have a 4chan reference.
still hard to judge the gameplay since they've only shown videos of the tutorial stage and brief cuts of it.

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