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I wish there was a mode in DMC3 that combined the enemy tunings of very hard with the boss tunings of DMD. Or I guess just getting rid of enemy DT in DMD would be just as good, really.
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Today I played Metal Gear Rising on my new graphics card while waiting for Wolfenstein to download. I'm never playing this game at sub-60 FPS ever again. e; I just remembered that there is a Metal Gear Rising PC thread. It doesn't matter, though, because I still just cut a Metal Gear RAY in half at 60fps. But seriously though I should probably finish DMC3, I'm just not really liking the last few missions as much as the first half
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Jul 23, 2015 08:09
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alcharagia posted:dante must die in dmc3 is bad and not fun DMD is unfun in all of the games because enemies become damage sponges who take forever to put into hitstun and you eat poo poo if you get touched once.
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Jul 23, 2015 08:27
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That's only true for 3, really. DMD mode is great in 1; enemies even have less health than in the other difficulties there to offset their huge attack boost (and the only damage sponges are the marionettes, who get a huge DMC3-like defense boost if they DT). On the other hand DMC4's DMD mode is just way too easy; enemies are too weak and unthreatening. Enemy DT in that game hardly gives them a defense boost so I don't think they feel like damage sponges in that game, either. DMC3's DMD mode is the only* iffy one because like half of the enemies are already DMC2-tier trash and become intolerable to fight when enemy DT gives them 4x defense or whatever. As for getting killed in a handful of hits - DMD mode is Very Hard mode, so I don't see the problem there. That should be expected. *I don't care about DMC2 or DmC
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Jul 23, 2015 10:42
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I still can't figure out what, if anything, makes Gunslinger style worthwhile in 4. I have trouble using guns as anything other than combo extenders generally I guess.
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Jul 23, 2015 10:45
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I still can't figure out what, if anything, makes Gunslinger style worthwhile in 4. I have trouble using guns as anything other than combo extenders generally I guess. Using the pistols' or shotgun's gunslinger move in the air is probably the fastest / most efficient way to decloak Fausts and Mephistos. Even if you aren't interested in doing crazy stylish stuff, that alone makes gunslinger worthwhile.
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Jul 23, 2015 10:48
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I still can't figure out what, if anything, makes Gunslinger style worthwhile in 4. I have trouble using guns as anything other than combo extenders generally I guess. there isn't one outside of using the one pandora move to remove shields or the other pandora move to fly over the laser hallway for a laugh
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Jul 23, 2015 11:34
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It's a bit tricky, but if you jump directly into a ghost and do the shotgun nunchuk move it will do massive damage to their cloak. Other than that it's pretty much just for Pandora.
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Jul 23, 2015 13:56
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I still can't figure out what, if anything, makes Gunslinger style worthwhile in 4. I have trouble using guns as anything other than combo extenders generally I guess. Gunslinger is good if you're in the air and pistols with Dante spinning them around firing a million times is actually a pretty good way of take down cloaks. Sir Ilpalazzo posted:That's only true for 3, really. DMD mode is great in 1; enemies even have less health than in the other difficulties there to offset their huge attack boost (and the only damage sponges are the marionettes, who get a huge DMC3-like defense boost if they DT). On the other hand DMC4's DMD mode is just way too easy; enemies are too weak and unthreatening. Enemy DT in that game hardly gives them a defense boost so I don't think they feel like damage sponges in that game, either. Frosts, Fausts, and Blitzes are all bastards in DMD and they are in an abundance. Even as Nero Frosts generally duck away if you try to buster them so your most effective option against every enemy is Charge Shot LV3 because that p much kills everything in two shots. Higher-tiered monsters generally don't let you make mistakes against them or you eat poo poo. Maybe it's because I made the mistake of doing DMD mode first with Nero/Dante without their upgrades and other weapons so I can't stuff out everything with Pandora Laser or Real Impact, but the higher-tiered enemies don't take your poo poo on DMD unless you just methodically CS LV3 everything which they can't do anything about.
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Beef Chief posted:Higher-tiered monsters generally don't let you make mistakes against them or you eat poo poo. if you wanna just button mash against enemies without thinking why would you play dmc of all games, god of war and basara are way better
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Jul 23, 2015 19:03
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I was implying.
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Jul 23, 2015 19:14
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Somehow I have enough Proud Souls to max out everyone except Nero and Dante, who I'm 5k and 10k souls away respectively. I don't understand.
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King of Solomon posted:Somehow I have enough Proud Souls to max out everyone except Nero and Dante, who I'm 5k and 10k souls away respectively. Nero and Dante have the largest collection of moves.
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Jul 24, 2015 01:52
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ImpAtom posted:Nero and Dante have the largest collection of moves. Right, but you'd think they'd scale the soul costs enough that if you can max out one character, you can max out all of them. At least, that's how I thought it worked.
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Beef Chief posted:Frosts, Fausts, and Blitzes are all bastards in DMD and they are in an abundance. Even as Nero Frosts generally duck away if you try to buster them so your most effective option against every enemy is Charge Shot LV3 because that p much kills everything in two shots. Higher-tiered monsters generally don't let you make mistakes against them or you eat poo poo. Maybe it's because I made the mistake of doing DMD mode first with Nero/Dante without their upgrades and other weapons so I can't stuff out everything with Pandora Laser or Real Impact, but the higher-tiered enemies don't take your poo poo on DMD unless you just methodically CS LV3 everything which they can't do anything about. The game's not really balanced for doing new game DMD runs which is why you normally can't access it. Offering it as DLC was a strange move on Capcom's part. Even then though it's not that hard (except Mission 1 which is brutal) because you get tons of Proud Souls quickly and can unlock the basics of your moveset. I haven't noticed any of those enemies having a ton more health on DMD, they just punish you by design for letting them recloak (Faust) or regenerate (Frost). And Blitzes just always take a bit of time to kill, sometimes for dumb reasons (stop wriggling around Blitz you arsehole). Enemies usually don't do much damage in this game though so it's not a huge deal. Fausts are probably the easiest to handle of those 3, even in new game DMD. As Nero use Showdown when they're decloaked (mash shoot to keep them stunned with Summoned Swords while the move winds up). You do encounter at least one before getting Devil Trigger but again, that's because this sort of playthrough isn't really intended. As Dante you have Gilgamesh by the time these enemies show up and should have plenty of Proud Souls to level Swordmaster, allowing you to DRI them. As for Frosts, you can skip Dante's first Frost fight and as Nero you can bowl over them pretty hard with Exceeded Streaks and Double Downs. When they're knocked on their butt you should be able to Snatch and Buster them. You can also Snatch and Buster them during some of their attack animations. Nero's Charge Shot level 3 is incredible but it's not his only good move and should be used in conjunction with his other moves, not in place of them.
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I didn't pay for it on DLC, you can unlock difficulties by doing lower ones with other characters. I'm complaining, but I've actually be doing a lot of what you've been sayingand handling them fine. Sometimes I goof up and get hit by a wayward attack and there goes my health, but that just tells me I need to be more mindful. Honestly my only real problem points in DMD on a new run were the Window Boss with Nero and fighting Blitzes with Dante since it becomes very clear very quickly that it's gonna take a while to put that thing's shield down more so than usual and it's made doubly troublesome if there are other enemies hopping around and the Faults.
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AccountingNightmare posted:Offering it as DLC was a strange move on Capcom's part.
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Beef Chief posted:I didn't pay for it on DLC, you can unlock difficulties by doing lower ones with other characters. Oh I didn't notice this somehow! I've only done Devil Hunter in the Special Edition so far so I need to get to work unlocking those. And yeah the window boss is quite a pain on Turbo especially. Another nice way of decloaking Blitzes as Dante is to wait for them to do the teleport explosion and then do a Distorted Level 2 Straight (you won't need to just charge it) while they're standing around. It'll decloak them in one hit. Of course this requires them to do that move and sometimes they just don't want to cooperate. I have such a love/hate relationship with Blitzes.
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hello friends i made dumb vids w/ trish this one shows me loving up reverse divider, a dumb glitch i found involving her v-divider move and a really neat thing w/ jump canceled pandora laser that huangRS had in a sick combo vid of his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoKlrfdWTdk these are garbage combos that could've been cool but i can't think of anything to fill aircombo time with besides spinning around in a 360 while swinging sparda or shooting guns because i really don't wanna divekick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvvVJdRALcA ok thanks for listening~
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Jul 30, 2015 04:20
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What's that mod you're using?
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notZaar posted:What's that mod you're using? it's somethin' i threw together 'cuz i really disliked trish's default color scheme for her attacks http://www.mediafire.com/download/t1n3zn4iva2102h there's also a purple variation here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/cjsv77iarkz5t19 the force edge isn't included but it's pretty janky looking anyways
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Wow, I need some tips for Trish against DMD bosses /bloody palace of you guys have any.
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I know that showing off and sheathing his sword slowly is Vergil's thing, but how do I play him so he stops eating scarecrow blades while he's locked into his cool dude pose? I hate how lovely his dodge is.
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notZaar posted:I know that showing off and sheathing his sword slowly is Vergil's thing, but how do I play him so he stops eating scarecrow blades while he's locked into his cool dude pose? I hate how lovely his dodge is. For the recovery animations that you can't jump/dodge out of, you can usually teleport to get out of them. Alternatively, you can do summoned sword inputs while recovering.
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Think of his teleport like Defensive Offensive in Revengeance: it's for staying right in something's grill while phasing through their attacks. If you want some distance, it's best to have some DT on hand for teleport-mashing away.
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hello friends i make more trish video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhBKBzoXjoI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z73EUyjmwsY J2DK posted:Wow, I need some tips for Trish against DMD bosses /bloody palace of you guys have any. trish's divekick is fully invincible until she lands so against pretty much every single boss you can just keep lunar phasing them (forward+bare knuckle) until it looks like you're gonna get hit and then jump cancel->divekick right on outta there for echidna when she plants herself into the ground doing round trip->DT->spinning bird kick fully mashed out will shred off a pretty considerable chunk of her health if you don't feel like just pandora lasering her over and over again basically never ever use sparda attacks besides round trip because lunar phase is 10x better in terms of just dealing raw damage and putting you into a position to where you can jump cancel your way to safety or more damage notZaar posted:I know that showing off and sheathing his sword slowly is Vergil's thing, but how do I play him so he stops eating scarecrow blades while he's locked into his cool dude pose? I hate how lovely his dodge is. edit: it's what allows folks to do crazy poo poo like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AscnOiZ6QTo Fereydun fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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That second Trish combo is pretty good! Now if only we had a way to kill Blitzes easily, because those Pandora rockets just can't cut it...
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So, I've been playing as Vergil, and as fun as it is (it is very fun) I'm having trouble nailing the timing for his JFJCs. I can do a couple pretty regularly but I'd really like to end every combo with a JFJC. I'm pretty much exclusively using the Yamato as I'd really like to master it. I sometimes incorporate Beowulf into my combos but not really that often, and I usually just forget about Force Edge. Anyone have any extra tips as Vergil? I've already beaten most of SoS with him (I'm getting bored in the story) and have started to focus on BP. It feels like his launcher just randomly throws mobs in the air - sometimes they don't launch at all. Also, he makes me hate Berial just because of his stupid nuke I can't dodge.
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The Yamato launcher is tied to your concentration meter. The higher your level, the stronger your launcher will be, and the greater the range. At level 3 you can launch enemies who are nowhere near you, even the SFX don't reach as far as your actual range.
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 Wow, that escalated quickly.I went from barely beating stage 20 of the Bloody Palace to dying at stage 79 (Credo). Crazy what JFJC can do for you when you figure it out. I was trivializing all the non-blitz waves I was fighting.
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at the very least with force edge try using round trip and the switching back to yamato it's really, really fun to just go berserk with round trip out because of how silly it is, even against bosses as for enemies that will/won't launch: some enemies are armored and require you to hit them with a launcher 3~ times before they can be launched- frosts are like this, i believe. same with devil triggered enemies. i think you just straight up can't launch the lil parasite enemies though p.s. here's another trish video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjKiwc1oaTQ
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AccountingNightmare posted:The game's not really balanced for doing new game DMD runs which is why you normally can't access it. Offering it as DLC was a strange move on Capcom's part. I bought the DLC (was eager for BP mode), it's actually pretty interesting playing DMD while unlocking Dante's weapons. This is my second time through DMD (first in SE) and it's much harder. Not having Pandora, Gilgamesh or Lucifer right away is a surprisingly large disadvantage - in DMD you find yourself missing the laser, uppercuts etc. until you're a few stages through. It has the unexpected upside of making you a lot more proficient with Rebellion and the guns, which is nice. There were a few parts in Fortuna Castle where I legitimately though about dropping to Human and rolling through to collect the items before coming back to DMD. The library room that's full of Angelo is pretty tough without Pandora - my go-to move was tricking about and wearing them down from the air. Without Pandora, I'm basically using Gilgamesh on everything while charging shotgun blasts. I think I'm getting good, just slowly. I actually kind of recommend it to people.
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Anyone else picked up the DMC Graphic Arts? Lots of really interesting info on the creator interviews.
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My copy is on its way
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so i guess i won the official capcom combo contest thing and got a pizza box and copy of the game both signed by itsuno though it didn't have the survey? i dunno here's my entry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tke_f07q-60 and here's the Goods  p.s. quick summarize all the creator interview stuff i wanna know the secrets
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Oh man that video great job dude. That ending and the Frost juggle, sublime.
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Fereydun posted:so i guess i won the official capcom combo contest thing and got a pizza box and copy of the game both signed by itsuno Hot drat dude, congratulations!
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Anyone else picked up the DMC Graphic Arts? Thanks for reminding me, the release date snuck up on me.
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Fereydun posted:so i guess i won the official capcom combo contest thing and got a pizza box and copy of the game both signed by itsuno
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Nahxela posted:I know you didn't, but I wish you got a real pizza in that box.
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