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They sort of touch on this in 3. He knows he's super human but doesn't discover his demonic nature until Vergil nearly kills him. Same as with Nero in 4. Dante is also very much against demons and rejects his father in that game. Takes him a while to accept him. FedEx Mercury fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Oct 6, 2012 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:When/how did Old Dante realize he wasnt completely human? I dont seem to remember. Well he figures out he has Devil Trigger in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AddD0wbXtYU About 4:40 in And then in the next cutscene he runs down that tower
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Oct 6, 2012 12:21
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Pesky Splinter posted:My god, this loving video.
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Alacron posted:So is this the part where we learn about Dante's horribly abusive childhood, and we get some flashbacks to him as a kid and in the present Dante sheds a single tear then dramatically wipes it away and says "Devil's never cry" Hey look I get that we all loving hate DmC and Ninja Theory, but let's not forget that the closing cutscene in DMC3 was terrible too. "Are you crying?" "It's just the rain." "I guess when it comes to the death of a family member...even a devil may cry." I mean, then they shot some demons so it was good again, but that bit was played completely straight. THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Well he figures out he has Devil Trigger in here That running down the tower scene is still one of the best things to come out of the entire series. Boxman fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Oct 6, 2012 |
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Oct 6, 2012 16:12
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Something from TGS. TGS Vid It shows a previously unseen level - an inverted subway, dodging scowly-trains. And all the shades of grey you could ever want! Note the two-second cutscene when more enemies appear, and Dante does a dramatic turn. Thanks NT, DMC really needed that.  It also shows some shotgun action.
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I always figured the demon reveal would just be the "sword through chest" scene that happens all the time to Dante.
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Oct 6, 2012 18:19
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Pasteurized Milk posted:I always figured the demon reveal would just be the "sword through chest" scene that happens all the time to Dante. At this point I figure that's just how he sleeps. Impaled on a giant sword hanging off whatever vertical surface he can find.
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Oct 6, 2012 18:20
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Pesky Splinter posted:Something from TGS. Despite some other problems, some of the design things look pretty cool- the lead up to and fight against Not-Bill O'Reilly at least looks distinctive and interesting. Think the game may warrant a playthrough just to see all the crazy environments they come up with. Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Oct 6, 2012 |
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Oct 6, 2012 18:52
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Monkey Fracas posted:Despite some other problems, some of the design things look pretty cool- the lead up to and fight against Not-Bill O'Reilly at least looks distinctive and interesting. Think the game may warrant a playthrough just to see all the crazy environments they come up with. The Fox news level looks visually good, and the Tron nightclub level looks good also. If the rest of the levels have that sort of flair to them, it'll be interesting. As long as they don't give up half-way like they do with Enslaved - the intro; nice visuals, lots of colours (especially deep reds)...and then the latter half is pretty bland looking. I just hope that the rest of the game isn't just either inverted areas which feature lots of grey.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Something from TGS.
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Oct 6, 2012 23:38
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notZaar posted:The UI is changed, just a tad. Oh yeah, never noticed that before. The "blinking" seems to be indicating what trigger you're curently using of demon/angel/human. Why exactly, is another question, because you have to hold down the button to use it, so are going to know anyway, which makes it kinda pointless really.
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Oct 6, 2012 23:49
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Pesky Splinter posted:Something from TGS. The cutscene that plays as Dante runs across shattering glass correctly has the holes in the floor for the entire series of cutscenes and sequences. As soon as combat starts, it's fixed. Oops.
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notZaar posted:The UI is changed, just a tad. Now the health bar has little sections instead of being one continous bar. It's still dreadfully simple and slapped together, they need to do some work on that. I noticed that the little face next to the health meter blinks occasionally, which seems to be a strange detail. Maybe it will eventually grunt and grin like the Doom guy head. It's ok because apparently getting hit ain't no thang as Dante gets whacked several times and loses like a bar once.
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randombattle posted:It's ok because apparently getting hit ain't no thang as Dante gets whacked several times and loses like a bar once. I would not actually judge the difficulty based on that. Videos released by studios almost always have some kind of super invincibility/super-low damage/whatever stuff on for the main character.
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It's gonna be hard to gauge the difficulty for the final product at this stage anyway. They are apprently working down from "Hard" though, as that was the first difficulty they set. Hopefully that means that enemies will have different attacks and placements, in addition than the standard "Does more damage, has more health" that most games have.
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You can now see the guady pre-order bonus skins, as well as the shotgun in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7M1v_rFtdE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40XBSzEiMOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7k6E6TI8y0 They're honestly so  it isn't even worth the The shotgun is looking pretty okay though, though it does appear to have a very large AOE. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Oct 8, 2012 |
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Woah, was that some jump-cancel Helm Breaker in the last clip? That's a step in the right direction. Also, I like the cut-down lever-action shotgun. Double barrels are a classic and all, but lever-actions are sorely underrepresented in games. Yeah though, these pre-order bonuses were definitely phoned-in. People tend to give poo poo to retailer-specific pre-order stuff, but you could at least make it something cooler than a weapon skin and bigger numbers, and not justify that dislike.
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They've been showing off the jump canceling a lot in recent gameplay. Its nice that its there for the combo guys and gals, but its not what I have in mind when I think of DMCs nuanced combat. Stuff like exceed and DT distortion is more like it. I hope the demon/angel system holds up.
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notZaar posted:They've been showing off the jump canceling a lot in recent gameplay. Its nice that its there for the combo guys and gals, but its not what I have in mind when I think of DMCs nuanced combat. Stuff like exceed and DT distortion is more like it. I hope the demon/angel system holds up. Well it definitely means they thought of the classic DMC combat enough to possibly pay as much care to the rest of the system. Also jump cancelling Beowulf's airkick was the quickest way to kill like half of the DMC3 bosses
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notZaar posted:They've been showing off the jump canceling a lot in recent gameplay. Its nice that its there for the combo guys and gals, but its not what I have in mind when I think of DMCs nuanced combat. Stuff like exceed and DT distortion is more like it. I hope the demon/angel system holds up. Interesting point of view. The first time I saw Enemy Step in DMC3, I wondered why it cost so much to unlock for an ability that lets you jump more when Double Jump was already more than enough for most fights. Of course, learning Enemy Step is pretty much step one when mastering the game's fighting system. You're right though that DMC4's Exceed and DT Distortion (which, IIRC, was actually a bug turned official in the PC release) added some flavour to Nero and Dante's fighting styles. I do believe that DmC is trying a new take on Dante's DMC4 incarnation; namely, having access to all your abilities and weapons mid-battle, but I guess we'll have to wait until next year to see if it really holds up. toasterwarrior fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Oct 9, 2012 |
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toasterwarrior posted:Exceed and DT Distortion (which, IIRC, was actually a bug turned official in the PC release) What do exactly you mean by "bug"? In every version of the game, DT Distortion causes the DT runes to light up in sequence when you hold a button and there's a spherical shockwave when you release it, and I'm pretty sure there's an ingame tutorial for it too. Sounds pretty far from accidental to me. Unless you're confusing it with the ability to juggle enemies to begin, which started off as a bug in Onimusha, was removed before the game was released since it didn't fit the style of the game and was then later turned into an integral part of the DMC1 engine. AnotherGamer fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Oct 9, 2012 |
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That's in DMC3; what I mean by Distortion is that in DMC4, toggling DT during specific attack frames boosts damage, sometimes letting you kill bosses in one to two Real Impacts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D9F46lwOBY Something like that. It was called "distortion" because in the console versions, doing so would distort Dante's graphics. Edit: Yes, I probably should make it clear what game I'm referring to in my previous post.
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AnotherGamer posted:What do exactly you mean by "bug"? In every version of the game, DT Distortion causes the DT runes to light up in sequence when you hold a button and there's a spherical shockwave when you release it, and I'm pretty sure there's an ingame tutorial for it too. Sounds pretty far from accidental to me. DT Distortion is a trick in 4 where you can produce "extra" hits by flipping Devil Trigger on at the right moment- useful with high damage moves like Real Impact. EDIT: Ffff, beaten.
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AnotherGamer posted:What do exactly you mean by "bug"? In every version of the game, DT Distortion causes the DT runes to light up in sequence when you hold a button and there's a spherical shockwave when you release it, and I'm pretty sure there's an ingame tutorial for it too. Sounds pretty far from accidental to me. I always knew this as 'DT Explosion'
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Oh right, forgot about that one. Figures. I blame the fact they both sound similar.
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The only thing I'm looking forward to in this game is Andy Serkis. His role as the villain in Heavenly Sword was the only thing that kept me going to the end.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U93EnuEtmTg Is there a reason why reviewers now try to insult people into getting a game? "New Dante is better get over it!"
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If you don't buy DMC, then you are stupid. I know it's harsh, but it's true.
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Pasteurized Milk posted:If you don't buy DMC, then you are stupid. I know it's harsh, but it's true. It is revealed that, in this new canon, that Dante's mother lived with and died due to breast cancer. I can already imagine the drama. On a more serious note: the response of marketing and "reviewers" the game to the public baffles me. Tameem's responses to criticism haven't done the studio any favours, but these obvious loving shills don't even have the brains to treat their viewers and detractors with respect. To be honest, I do think there is a degree of hypocrisy in expecting courtesy from supporters of the game after they've caught so much poo poo; but really, as a business and public entity, rolling with the punches and learning from it is a big part of both the creative process and the business side of things. For every cool thing that gets revealed about the game, like their inclusion of jump-cancelling from recent videos, their confrontational marketing style detracts from that.
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toasterwarrior posted:It is revealed that, in this new canon, that Dante's mother lived with and died due to breast cancer. I can already imagine the drama. And before she died, she secretly gave birth to a girl...named Kat, who is actually the daughter of Mundus, who - to top it all - has six months to live.  toasterwarrior posted:On a more serious note: the response of marketing and "reviewers" the game to the public baffles me. Tameem's responses to criticism haven't done the studio any favours, but these obvious loving shills don't even have the brains to treat their viewers and detractors with respect. Part of me thinks it's the "Oh well so many people dislike it, because it comes from an auteur studio reknowned for its stories and mocap, obviously, these plebs can't handle good it actually is." attitude that some of them seem to have, regardless of the end result of the product.
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toasterwarrior posted:It is revealed that, in this new canon, that Dante's mother lived with and died due to breast cancer. I can already imagine the drama. Pesky Splinter posted:And before she died, she secretly gave birth to a girl...named Kat, who is actually the daughter of Mundus, who - to top it all - has six months to live. Please tell me this is a joke I can't be sure anymore.
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Help, this actually looks fun and makes me want to get it I'm nowhere close to being a super DMC combo-cancelling badass, I actually had Bayonetta on easy past chapter 7 or so since I felt really bad about using items (but when it was too easy and I tried to turn it back I got my rear end kicked too hard, I'm starting over on normal now). As someone who knows very little about the mechanics and (probably more importantly) has never played any of the other DMC games yet, it actually looks pretty fun. I'll hate myself for giving money to Ninja Theory after following their antics in this thread for so long, but if everyone never gave money to assholes people wouldn't buy much of anything ever.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Part of me thinks it's the "Oh well so many people dislike it, because it comes from an auteur studio reknowned for its stories and mocap, obviously, these plebs can't handle good it actually is." attitude that some of them seem to have, regardless of the end result of the product. It's that pretentious art fallacy. The critics LOVE it so it MUST BE GOOD, RIGHT? RIGHT? And then you end up with a print of a decaying skunk rear end on your wall.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Please tell me this is a joke I can't be sure anymore. We don't know. But what about if we said Dante has to go into to the Slurm factory, while Slurm's McKenzie screams "FUUUUCCCCCKKKK YOOOOOUUUUU YOUR MOM WAS A WHOOOOOOOORRRREEE!" at him, and then we have to sit through a tasteful sex scene of Mundus boning deformed Jackie Stallone, while then having a Hallmark moment with his millionare brother who leads Anonymous, while Glenn Beck and Fox news say they're terrorists?  The above is all trueWrist Watch posted:Help, this actually looks fun and makes me want to get it It does look like a fun game. At the lowest point, I was "gently caress getting that". Now it's crept back up to either a rental, borrowing off a friend, or getting second-hand, because gently caress them if they think I'm going to give them money directly for this.
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Wrist Watch posted:Help, this actually looks fun and makes me want to get it Hell, I wouldn't feel bad about thinking it looks fun, because I agree that it does. At least they've probably learned something on that front. It's likely I'll get it anyway at a discount on Steam, since brawlers barely pop-up on the PC. If you think they deserve any comeuppance or whatever, I think you can safely assume that their "riveting, social commentary story" which they think is worth all the marketing buzz will fall flat on its face.
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I'm just glad someone is finally willing to tackle the important social issue of Slurm in a video game.
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toasterwarrior posted:Interesting point of view. The first time I saw Enemy Step in DMC3, I wondered why it cost so much to unlock for an ability that lets you jump more when Double Jump was already more than enough for most fights. Of course, learning Enemy Step is pretty much step one when mastering the game's fighting system. Are you sure about distortions being a bug? If you pull it off there's an actual little flash effect that signifies you're doing extra damage, and you can distort a lot of Dante's attacks. RI being the most famous and easy one to do.
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notZaar posted:Are you sure about distortions being a bug? If you pull it off there's an actual little flash effect that signifies you're doing extra damage, and you can distort a lot of Dante's attacks. RI being the most famous and easy one to do. It's been a long time since I've seen it done on a console, but apparently doing it there causes Dante's model to stretch out like it was Garry's Mod physics going haywire. You don't see it on the PC version but it keeps the damage boost, so that's what I meant by it becoming "official".
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This might be the first devil may cry game I buy. Dat art of Dante and the angels... glorious.
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Old Dante and Lady do things in that Project X Zone thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjkuZqyDrU0 Music wise, it's got a... (I don't even know the term) version of "Devils Never Cry", and "Ultra Violet". So yeah.
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