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keep punching joe posted:Don't be silly, Gandalf is some sort of higher being, he's not going to waste his time boning some elf maiden, dude has poo poo to do ridding the world of Sauron. Personally there is no way I'd have the motivation and gusto to chase after a renegade deity for thousands of years without boning large amounts of elf maidens in the process...
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So what all is confirmed for the LOTR Special Edition? Replace intro shot in FOTR with new footage from Hobbit Update/elaborate on stone trolls in FOTR Reshoot and extend Gollum scene in Moria Superimpose latest dwarf fashions on Gimli-clones Rontos in the foreground of Rivendell establishing shot Five more endings in ROTK
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keep punching joe posted:Don't be silly, Gandalf is some sort of higher being, he's not going to waste his time boning some elf maiden, dude has poo poo to do ridding the world of Sauron. Tom Bombadil would like a word with you.
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:Tom Bombadil would like a word with you. As would Melian and Thingol...
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:Tom Bombadil would like a word with you. Do Wizards even have dicks, do they eat and therefore do they also poop? This is the sort of backstory Tolkien never went into and I for one hope that Peter Jackson explores in detail. edit: I never finished The Silmarillion so maybe this was covered.
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Rencall posted:It's expected they'd have some history together. Gandalf is like a bazillion years old, and Galadriel is close behind him. Maybe a thousand years ago Gandalf wasn't sporting a ZZ top beard and he had the hots for her before he started looking like homeless santa clause. No Gandalf has always looked like that. He was put in the body of an old man to keep him humble. Plus I'm siding with no way does he stoop to that level. Maiar boning Elves is akin to a scientist boning a chimpanzee in my book. Unless of course your book regarding Elves is written by Raymond E. Feist, then it goes without saying that Maiar sexually enslave Elves and destroy them on a moments whim. edit: and we're through the looking glass.
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Drighton posted:So what all is confirmed for the LOTR Special Edition? Oh god. Please don't let this happen. More ideas: Turn Bilbo's face into a digital composite of Ian Holm and Martin Freeman in all five movies Add a scene in lothlorien where Gandalf visits his old lover, Galadriel, in blue ghost form Amethyst fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Dec 22, 2011 |
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BetterLekNextTime posted:The Gandalf-Galadriel scene has got to be either 1) Galadriel comforting Gandalf who is remorseful for sending a hobbit to get eaten by spiders and dragons. or 2) fortelling that Gandalf is going to be doing the heavy lifting against Necromancer/Sauron, and that he and not Sauruman is the best emissary of the Valar 3) getting flirty to score some pipeweed. If you look, she is obviously speaking. I assume it's sort of like when she rubbed Aragorn's face with her hands in Fellowship. She's just being an ethereal lady.
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keep punching joe posted:Do Wizards eat and therefore do they also poop? If you take wizard poop and dry it out and put it in a box you could use it to fertilize the whole Shire if you use it sparingly.
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keep punching joe posted:Don't be silly, Gandalf is some sort of higher being, he's not going to waste his time boning some elf maiden, dude has poo poo to do ridding the world of Sauron. A wizard needs to have his hobbies. 
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P.S. STILL COMPLETELY DEVOID OF MERIT
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I think part of why Lotro and The Hobbit have and will work so well is that Jackson is working the old school way with a ton of set pieces and props. Of course there is plenty of CGI, but compare this to George Lucas where almost everything came out of the computer and how soulless the prequels were. 1 year and then another year for part 2.
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Hammerstein posted:1 year and then another year for part 2. Will the year waiting for the first part be worse than the year waiting for part 2?
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Hammerstein posted:I think part of why Lotro and The Hobbit have and will work so well is that Jackson is working the old school way with a ton of set pieces and props. Of course there is plenty of CGI, but compare this to George Lucas where almost everything came out of the computer and how soulless the prequels were. I was watching Fellowship a few weeks ago and I thought the same thing- so much of the visuals come from makeup, miniatures and camera tricks that just makes everything seem so much more real (because it's all physical, handcrafted stuff)
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Saw the trailer in 3D (in front of Tintin) today. Even better than the 2D version online. You can tell how well it is put together compared to the trailers for MIB3 and Titanic 3D.
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I can see that they needed to differentiate the dwarfs. I can also see that they needed to hunk some of them up, since you don't really want the hobbit or the wise old sage as the main sources of sex appeal. But the juxtaposition of Killer Klowns from Outer Space and Richard Armitage as Chet Sexydwarf is kind of jarring.
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Zero One posted:Saw the trailer in 3D (in front of Tintin) today. I was really bummed that it wasn't on my theater's print of Tintin. Neither was Prometheus  However, MIB3 looked like balls and I could barely even tell was in 3D.
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I am insanely glad that Ian Holm still has a role in this!  And hearing new Gollum dialogue...goddamn...I'm starting to remember how I felt after seeing FotR, and thinking "A whole loving YEAR???" And as far as future fantasy adaptations, put me down for Prydain. In the hands of someone like del Toro, it would be nothing less than loving spectacular.
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I always liked Serkis' performance, even if every jackass did try and ruin it with their own terrible impression, and I'm really glad we'll see more Gollum than Smeagol in the Hobbit. Should be a lot more sinister. Can't wait.
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I always liked that Bilbo was mostly just a tasty treat to Gollum until the Ring got involved. Nothing more than playing with his food.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:I always liked that Bilbo was mostly just a tasty treat to Gollum until the Ring got involved. Nothing more than playing with his food. Me too. What a fantastic character.
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Abnegatus posted:I ripped the dwarven singing and am giving all my fellow goons access to the tracks. One has an ending dialogue attached to it, the other has it without. Way cool, and I appreciate your doing this -- but I can't figure out how the hell to download that thing, and we wants it.
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hahahah Who bought this?
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A FUCKTON OF WEED posted:hahahah Who bought this? Peter Jackson. The special treat is that we're getting an early look at the design for Smaug!
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Effingham posted:Way cool, and I appreciate your doing this -- but I can't figure out how the hell to download that thing, and we wants it. I'll try and upload it to zshare or tindeck later today.
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So, anyone else concerned that Ian Holm seems to be shaking in a wierd way during his close-up, and also that they had to use a stand-in for the opening shot where old Bilbo waves Frodo off? I love Ian Holm and wish him all the best health - but was shoehorning him into this film really a good idea?
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A FUCKTON OF WEED posted:hahahah Who bought this? *raises hand* I was honor bound to buy it for the Otherkin/Fathering 16 Space Dragons thread.
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:So, anyone else concerned that Ian Holm seems to be shaking in a wierd way during his close-up, and also that they had to use a stand-in for the opening shot where old Bilbo waves Frodo off?
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Stare-Out posted:Are you sure that's a stand-in? Looks a lot like Ian Holm to me. Also it can very well be that the shaking is a part of his performance, and I don't really consider having him in the movie as 'shoehorning' as such. It's a perfect and easy way to tie the LOTR trilogy to The Hobbit movies by having him be the storyteller. Well now that I think about it, of course it would have to be a stand-in because the Frodo shot was done on location in NZ, whilst Ian Holm remained in London for his bits. And yeah, maybe I'm blowing the shaking thing out of proportion and it is just part of the performance.
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kiimo posted:If that shot means that Gandalf and Galadriel are in a relationship then Frodo and Sam have been rear end banging in every truck stop bathroom from Bree to the Black Gate. just sayin that this quote owns Ensign_Ricky posted:I am insanely glad that Ian Holm still has a role in this! Count me in for the Chronicles of Prydain, the animated Black Cauldron really didn't do the books justice (plus there needed to be 4 more  )
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For those who are digging the Misty Mountains song, my heretofore favorite version was done by some nobody nerds: http://www.canopymusic.net/canopy/Misty%20Mountains.mp3
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Effingham posted:Way cool, and I appreciate your doing this -- but I can't figure out how the hell to download that thing, and we wants it. Re-upped and linked, so enjoy: Free MP3 download: The Dwarves - Misty Mountains.mp3 Free MP3 download: The Dwarves - Misty Mountains (with ending dialogue).mp3
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I have watched the trailer 3 times now and it's so perfect at setting the tune for this movie. The Hobbit, as a book, was a far more light-hearted tale than Lotr or The Silmarillion, since it was aimed at a younger audience. But given a little imagination the whole content can be turned into a rather nightmarish world, full of haughty elves, murderous goblins, half-mad shapeshifters and tons of other stuff that is out to kill you...I don't even want to think about the spider forest. And this is where the trailer comes in - notice how light-hearted the setting is when they introduce the dwarves by their names, almost like in a Disney movie. And then they introduce Thorin and he starts the song - and the whole tune of the trailer changes - when every dwarf who rises to join the song, sheds off the Disney costume and takes the appearance of an axe-wielding badass.
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The thing with the Hobbit is you know it ends up OK in the end, even if you don't know how. This keeps it a little lighter. Even in the middle of scary stuff, the storytelling is such that the narrator is looking back on events.
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That trailer was incredible. 2012 is jam packed full of awesome movies, but this might be my most anticipated.
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:So, anyone else concerned that Ian Holm seems to be shaking in a wierd way during his close-up, and also that they had to use a stand-in for the opening shot where old Bilbo waves Frodo off? This made me wikipedia Ian Holm and holy poo poo he's 80 years old. I thought he was like 60 or something.
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DrPop posted:This made me wikipedia Ian Holm and holy poo poo he's 80 years old. I thought he was like 60 or something. Yeah I just did the same after reading your post, it's crazy how old he was even back in Alien. And yes this trailer is the best trailer. Wish I could see it in 3D but I'm hosed if I'm going to see some piece of poo poo just for a trailer. You yanks are lucky getting it with Tintin, no idea what movie this is attached to in the UK.
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BetterLekNextTime posted:The thing with the Hobbit is you know it ends up OK in the end, even if you don't know how. This keeps it a little lighter. Even in the middle of scary stuff, the storytelling is such that the narrator is looking back on events. You did, of course, note that they framed it this way even in the trailer? Beginning with old Bilbo telling Frodo the complete story of his adventure? I thought it quite interesting that they started it that way, which obviously immediately gives away the fact that Bilbo will survive the adventure just fine, and then we had several quotes in the trailer both from Gandalf and Thorin discussing how dangerous the journey would be for Bilbo and how neither of them can guarantee his safety. Bit contradictory, no? Not that I minded it, because as you said, the book itself is written that way. Not to mention everybody who is familiar with LotR knows that Bilbo survives, so it's not much of a spoiler. Even so, I thought it interesting that they went so far as to establish that in the trailer in extremely clear terms.
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