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How about we split the difference and agree to only argue about whatever offensive thing he says this series? Everything else has been beaten to death by now. You know it'll happen, so those who want to complain can just shut up until probably half way through the India special and let the rest of us just post silly GIFs and speculation about challenges. On that note, since we have the India special and the race listed in the OP, does anyone think we'll get anything like a cheap car challenge this series?
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VCR 2.0 posted:I sure hope so, because these have always been my favorite segments. I'd love to see them do a cheap pickup-truck challenge, however I'm not too sure what the truck market is in the UK, it can't be very big though. I suspect that'd end up like the Cheap Convertible Challenge from series 16 where they all bought E30s, except this time it would be Hiluxes. I don't know if the market in the UK could support this, but I'd like to see a cheap muscle car challenge. V8, 2+2, RWD, some low budget, that's it. The side challenges could involve exhaust noise, ability to turn the rear tires in to smoke, etc. Obviously that would be easy in the US, but over there I don't know if there are enough vehicles that would fit the bill.
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Cakefool posted:Capri - how many cylinders did you say? I thought you might be on to something, but as it turns out the Fox body Capri I'm thinking of was the only one sold in the US that wasn't comparable to a foreign version. Maybe I'm just too stuck in rednecky American ways, but I can't call it a muscle car unless there's a cross plane V8 in the front turning the tires in the back. wolrah fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Dec 23, 2011 |
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jojoinnit posted:Top Gears Facebook feed has just informed me there's a faster Veyron coming out called the "Bugatti Veyron GS Vitesse". This is getting silly. Some French bloke going "We've managed to give it five more horsepower, I call it The Bugatti Veyron GS Vitesse Ultrasport HD+". It's just the topless version of the Supersport. Nothing actually new, just two existing variants combined. At least it's not the last, last, last, last, we swear it's the last one really Zonda.
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Anyone else notice during the seat removal race that the vans magically gained their off-road equipment, then lost it again, about three times? Obviously they do a few takes beyond the actual race to get a lot of the the intermediary shots, but you'd think they'd do it before making major visual changes to the vehicles. Other than that and a few other editing/consistency quirks though, one of the best TGUS episodes yet, almost comparable to the Alaska adventure. wolrah fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Mar 8, 2012 |
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Data Graham posted:I'm on a phone, someone else post that photoblog of the guy who took the train from like Vienna to Pyongyang. http://vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.com/
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davebo posted:I definitely like the USA Top Gear more when it's not in season the same time as normal Top Gear. Having to compare Season 2 to Series 17 is no competition at all, but comparing Season 3 to... nothing, well it's pretty darn good and I'm glad it's on. Only question I had was didn't Tanner introduce the Corvette as a Z06 but then say it was a $100k car? The ZR-1 is the 110k 'vette. The Z06 is like $76k. Base price sure, but a 2LZ or 3LZ with the Z07 performance package is right in the $100k area.
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nmfree posted:IIRC Top Gear Australia did, they called it "From the Ashes" or something because it was used to revive the show. I believe it was the exact same as the UK episode, maybe edited for time? It was the Ashes Special, and it's a reference to a long-running cricket series between England and Australia.
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Whoever did the sound on this episode needs to never work on a car-related show again. The bifuel F-350 runs the 6.2L gas V8, yet they dubbed in diesel sounds (which really sounded like an I6 semi engine, not a V8 Powerstroke) all over it. It shouldn't bug me this much, but holy crap it does.
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opengl128 posted:I was really expecting a diesel when I saw Tanner show up in the 528i. Looked it up and it appears you can only get them in SUVs now. Stupid. For some reason BMW only put the diesel in the 3 series and the X5 for the US market. When the 3 got bumped to the new F30 platform last year it lost the diesel temporarily, though it's supposedly coming back next year and bringing along a four cylinder counterpart. If we're lucky those engines will spread across the lineup. neckbeard posted:I was really expecting a diesel when Adam showed up. Last summer some friends and I went 750 miles without refueling in a 2005 Ram 3500 diesel, and the fuel tanks on the new ones are bigger, over 50 gallons. Agreed. The LWB diesels have a 37.5 gallon tank, so he only would have needed to average 20 MPG to make it. That's nothing for an unladen diesel truck as long as you're not hammering the piss out of it.
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Grumpwagon posted:I know this isn't the Fifth Gear thread (I doubt one exists), but I wanted to point out that this season has been pretty solid. In this most recent one, Tiff races in a Lambo sponsored race against professional drivers, and does quite well. FG having a racing driver with a personality does give them some flexibility to do some things that TG can't. It's still a worse than either TGUK or TGUS, but I do think this season has been decent enough to watch. I have to agree. I watched Fifth Gear in the past as more of a "nothing else to watch that's properly car related" thing, but this season has been genuinely good. The circle track test of the Optima was surprisingly entertaining.
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Geared Hub posted:It's a Towncar they took out, panther chassis, body on frame RWD. I'm sure the continental would fair just as well, there's nothing really to hang up underneath in terms of drive train if you slap a basic skid plate across the front of late model continental... This guy does it with a lot less drama. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFwPXEeJ3aI Also, one of my friends putting my former DD through some similar abuse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFC5OpQrYEM&t=49s
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What a lot of you keep missing is that they explained at the beginning that cheap was good, cheap makes up for a LOT of crappiness. Beetles are not only cheap but reliable, therefore while they may be terrible to drive they're by no means even a contender for "worst". Random trash from Eastern Europe or the small Asian brands was excluded by the "should have known better" restriction. It was basically what's the worst car which doesn't have an excuse for being bad. If it's dirt cheap or from a company that's never made a good car, it can be pretty bad and still get away with it. I'm OK with the SC430 being chosen, since it's as bad of a car as the Sebring Convertible (and pretty much only sold to the same market) but cost a lot more and was from a company that at the time produced a number of good cars and should have been able to do better.
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TGUK: drat, if the rest of the season is this good it's going to be a good few weeks. TGUS: The hosts seem to be "getting" Top Gear more and it seems more natural than usual, but the filming was worse than last year IMO. I watched the latest Chris Harris on Cars (the 458 Spider) after finishing TGUS just now and it just seemed so much better done by comparison. Fuckit though, there's more car poo poo to watch on TV that's entertaining, who am I to complain. Fifth Gear comes back in a few weeks, so for the short bit of overlap it'll be car guy couch potato heaven.
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Sinestro posted:I can't get any of those, because I'm a filthy American. You can get more and more hot hatches these days, and the Toyota GT86 is only a few badges apart from the Scion FR-S sold in the US.
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They seem to have realized that the most "Americanizable" segments are the challenges, and there's enough of a history to pick through from UK that they can probably get another full season just out of doing that. The sad state of our automotive media is it's still pretty much the best car show on American TV (assuming one wants at least some entertainment, obviously Motorweek has mastered the dry, factual review over the last few decades).
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I think they were setting up for if they felt they "had" to pull some of those forced gags that have become sort of a Top Gear staple, but then enough entertainment just sort of happened naturally that they didn't "need" to fill some gaps. There were still a few obviously forced bits, but so few that I honestly can't remember any more about them.
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Powershift posted:I don't know, that review kinda made me want a fiesta ST, i just wish it was priced a little more reasonably here, i mean, for $400 more you can get a fusion with the same drivetrain. Isn't that sort of the point of the ST? Sort of the muscle car logic, the motor from your bigger cars stuck in the small one for fun? The Fusion has more than an extra foot in between the axles and another 600 pounds, it's not exactly a peppy handling machine like the Fiesta. Fucknag posted:There's no real reason for FWD cars to understeer that's inherent to the drivetrain. I would say the simple physics problem of tires only having so much traction to give does make it at least somewhat inherent. As you note the drivetrain packaging contributes as well as the fact that FWD tends to be found on cheap cars, but even if you were to build a mid-engine FWD with perfect balance and low polar moment you'd still have traction as an understeer-causing factor when on power and turning. There's no doubt that good engineering can tune out most of the problems and have done so to the point that in a good vehicle under normal driving conditions there's no reason to really care which wheels are doing the work, but in the end if you have more power than tire in a corner FWD understeers and RWD oversteers.
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Cojawfee posted:That was probably the best episode of the series so far. The caravaner segment was simply amazing. Are caravans really that lovely? If you get a trailer or RV in the US, it's going to be build pretty solidly. Those things were pretty much a plastic shell put on a trailer with some things thrown in it. If you think American RVs are much better in that range, think again. Travel trailers and class C motorhomes are pretty similar in construction, and it's not good. I spent plenty of time as a kid in an Itasca Sundancer, which was a rebadged version of the Winnebago Minnie Winnie. A popular model by the definitive brand of American RV, but still a plywood and fiberglass box stuck on top of an Econoline cutaway. Nothing fell apart horribly in the seven years we had it, but we did have the walls separate from the floor in the rear bedroom and you could tell that had it been off-roaded in a similar manner it would have fallen apart in the same way. The modern bus-style (class A or actual bus conversion) and van conversion units are a lot more solid typically (we replaced the Sundancer with a Fleetwood Discovery which had a Freightliner chassis underneath and a metal structure where the Cat engine was surprisingly the least reliable part), same with fifth wheel style trailers, but the class Cs and standard hitched "travel trailer" units are still mostly fiberglass boxes stuck on whatever ladder frame was convenient. wolrah fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Jul 29, 2013 |
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The important question is whether it's in the rear plate position in a non-show environment. If it's only the front or at a show, it's probably just some random who bought a Top Gear plate. If it's on the road or similar with the TG plate at the rear, a camera car and police escort are probably nearby.
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Powershift posted:Press cars, and they get crushed. Sometimes. Chris Harris famously bought a used S4, noticed that a few things were a bit off about it, and discovered it was the very same press car he had thrashed the poo poo out of in a drifting video some time prior.
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Unload My Head posted:Not so much that it has a "smoke tune", any pre-DPF diesel engine will smoke when you go wide-open under load like that. No, it's a smoke tune. An electronically injected diesel that's tuned well doesn't smoke like that. The last mechanical diesel in a pickup was the Cummins 6BT in the Ram up to the start of the '98 models before the ISB came around for '98.5. GM switched when the 6.5 came out in '92 and Ford switched when "Power Stroke" branding came around in '94.5. DPFs cut down on the remaining bit of sootiness, but anyone throwing a thick cloud from an electronic engine is either broken or doing it intentionally. The old mechanical diesels aren't nearly as adjustable sort of like a carb vs. EFI, so they can end up being pretty sooty when tuned for power. edit: mod sassinator posted:Yeah I enjoyed All Cars Go To Heaven too. They gave up too early on that poor Cherokee though. I bet they could have swapped in a new axle from one in a junkyard and been on their way. Agreed, but after listening to a lot of their podcasts it seems that while they all know a lot about cars and know how to drive fast cars fast none of the main TST crew really seem to work on their own vehicles very much if at all. They'd probably be more useful than Clarkson, but only if they really had to. wolrah fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Terrible Robot posted:this isn't the loving Youtube thread Agreed, so here's some Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7YDMt7jOfU
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rifles posted:Still though, could you imagine having to sell your pride and joy restored car to someone you don't know (some producer probably), and then sit down for a relaxing top gear special and OH HOLY gently caress OH NO Something something Morris Marina Owner's Club...
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BBC to show final Top Gear episodes featuring Clarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32407898/bbc-to-show-final-top-gear-episodes-featuring-clarkson quote:Kim Shillinglaw, BBC Two's controller, said the scenes filmed before Clarkson was suspended are likely to air this summer.
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Fo3 posted:Clarkson started it because he wanted to start it. May was a totally unknown, nobody had prejudices or preconceptions and he grew with the show. Both were well-known automotive journalists and had been in the previous incarnation of the series (that became Fifth Gear when it left the BBC). Hammond was probably the least known name in the long-term lineup (sorry season one nobody) to the initial 2002 Top Gear audience, but even he had been on the radio for some time. It's not like these were random nobodies off the street.
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KakerMix posted:I mean....women....in my shows.... There's two different things here. When this story first blew up we saw all kinds of media people jumping to suggest that the show absolutely needed a woman. I'll give MattD1zzl3 the benefit of the doubt and assume his post is responding more to that side of things than the overall concept of a woman in a starring role on Top Gear. Trying to shoehorn someone in to the show just because of what's between their legs is idiotic and will make the show (or almost any other show where a casting decision is made primarily based on gender) worse. That said, there's nothing wrong with a woman hosting the show either. I don't care what bits a presenter has as long as they can drive well enough to hoon the latest supercars around the airfield or whatever track they happen to be on, do dumb things in in contraptions built out of beater cars, and occasionally actually talk about some facts. Looking at the list of rumored names I have no idea how Jodie Kidd is as a presenter but she seems to know enough to talk shop and can certainly handle herself behind the wheel so I'd be willing to bet she'd at least be better on camera than Tanner Foust and there's no question she's a better driver than Adam Ferrara. Neither are very high bars but that's at least enough to show she could probably be entertaining to watch after a season or two of settling in. Sue Perkins on the other hand would likely be a nightmare as it seems like the only reason she got brought up in all this is some journalists looking for an anti-Clarkson. Putting her on Top Gear would be as nonsensical as choosing Chris Hardwick in that they're both decent on TV when in their element but neither seem to have the remotest interest in cars. I think this BBC exec has her head on straight about it: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/top-gear-could-be-fronted-by-a-woman-bbc2-boss-says-10194190.html posted:BBC2 controller Kim Shillinglaw said she was not thinking of Jeremy Clarkson’s replacement “in terms of gender”. Basically in my opinion anyone who really cares one way or another whether a woman is involved in hosting the next incarnation of Top Gear is wrong. If you think there must be a woman, you're wrong. If you think there can't be a woman, you're wrong. What matters is how good of a fit they are for the show's formula, whether they're yet another old straight white man or a transgendered biracial lesbian woman isn't relevant to entertaining me with cars. The Stig has proven that none of the normal human qualities are absolutely critical to being a valuable part of the show.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I'm not sure saying " I want to face gently caress someone" Is humour. More like a statement. I'm imagining you saying this in a stereotypical whiny "that's not funny" tone and it's hilarious, so... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMukKqx-Os quote:The new presenter should be Clarkson in a wig and frock. Introducing our new presenter, Jeri Clarkson!
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Daric posted:Jennifer, duh Only if the Porsche is actually faster.
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James talks about door handles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcWtAa5gGAo
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eriddy posted:What do you guys mean when you say "point them down"? Are the cops on foot flagging down speeding cars? How does that work? Laser doesn't really work through glass, so where there aren't median turnarounds for a while it's not uncommon to see a cop standing in front of or beside their car on the shoulder shooting laser over the roof. They'll often step out to the edge or in to the actual road to point at you to pull over. I've seen some who I really thought were suicidal with how they jumped out in to the road from their hiding spot on the inside of a blind corner.
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Two Finger posted:Yeah, I'd be about 99% certain the Veyron should have beaten it off the line, I always thought they had the McLaren launch faster as a salute to it. I recall hearing that the Veyron wasn't a press car but instead was borrowed from a private owner who didn't want them to use launch control.
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spog posted:I would like to have seen the summary after 12 months of usage. I am genuinely interested to know how feasible it would be to run a depreciated, used luxury car, compared to a new econo-box. There are three general rules about old luxury cars: 1. Anything that was new and fancy on that model will probably break. 2. Anything that is unique to that model (or only shared amongst the high-end models) will probably be expensive. 3. Anything that requires a dealer or specialist shop should probably come with some lube for when you're bent over the cash register. If you buy something like an E38 740i where the drivetrain and key electronics are basically the same as the relatively common and reliable (by BMW standards) E39 540i, can stand to ignore the really fancy bits if they fail, and do your own work on the maintenance you can do fine. Things like V12s, fancy suspension, etc. are what'll hurt as far as keeping the car running and on the road.
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OptimusMatrix posted:Not being able to use prime with my Chromecast is extremely irritating. I thought the same, but then I got a Fire TV stick and it took over the majority of my Chromecast usage. It still supports "cast" style usage from most of the same apps, but also has a remote and can run actual local programs including Kodi (formerly XBMC). It's a full Android device. of course with the Amazon flavor of Android rather than Google's. Both Fire TV stick and Chromecast are due for updates though so I'd hold off until closer to the start of the show. Chromecast 2 is supposedly going more full featured to compete with the Fire stick, possibly under the Android TV branding, and the Fire TV Stick 2 has already been seen in benchmarks with MUCH faster processor. wolrah fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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japtor posted:What are the odds that they'll have enough money to keep licensing whatever music? Amazon does have some pretty substantial music licensing deals for their various streaming and sale offerings, so while they won't have the BBC's wonderful ability to use literally whatever they want I doubt they'll have much trouble.
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davebo posted:Why would Amazon not be subject to the same copyright restrictions as Netflix and broadcast tv? It's just a matter of a different deal. Amazon's already got a streaming license to the song, as a Prime member I can stream it for free right now: http://www.amazon.com/Theme-From-The-A-team/dp/B000S41FDY/ It's hard to believe they'd have trouble getting the license to use it in their show that will be streaming to literally the same potential group of people.
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bull3964 posted:Tirerack sold me a set of wheels/tires that I specifically said was for a 2011 MY which obviously came with TPMS and they allowed me to leave it off. I don't know anything about the laws but at least this has changed. Tire Rack will not allow me to spec a set of winter wheels/tires for a 2015 Fiesta ST without including TPMS, nor will they allow the creation of a mounted/balanced wheel and tire package without specifying a vehicle. I'm currently trying to find a vehicle to select that's close enough to let me spec the right parts but not require TPMS. A few weeks ago mid-00s Focuses used to work, but they don't seem to now.
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MattD1zzl3 posted:They actually made an american series (if you arent already aware).
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Fo3 posted:For content: Has it been announced which country clarkson, may and hammond are filming their show in? I'm pretty sure Clarkson confirmed the show's still based in the UK. Obviously just like the last time around they'll probably film everywhere they can.
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88h88 posted:That would be interesting, you'd finally see that the vast majority of car journos (like most journos who review anything) are just chancers. On Hooniverse or The Smoking Tire's podcasts it's not uncommon to hear them complaining about the driving of other supposed automotive journalists at press events.
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