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bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


Haley Joel Osment posted:

I will never forget walking in for the first session of Kingdom Hearts II and seeing that the producers had set up a bulletin board with a flow chart explaining the sequence of events in different universes and watching them almost struggle to sort it out. It wasn't that they weren't knowledgeable, they just were still unraveling the story for themselves and dealing with the huge amount of information Nomura-San puts out. That was when I personally realized how video games had reached the level of art.



Kingdom Hearts is a series of games published by Square-Enix from the deranged, zipper-and-belt-buckle-infested mind of Tetsuya Nomura, known for doing the character design in such masterpieces as The Bouncer and Final Fantasy X. It answers the question, "What would happen if you mixed Disney characters and worlds with JRPG characters and settings?" The answer is an action RPG that has spawned a couple of sequels, several spin-off games and one hell of a convoluted overarching plot.

First post is all of the games in order of release!
Second post is all forthcoming games plus compilations!


Kingdom Hearts (PS2, 2002 everywhere, Final Mix 2002 JP, PS3 HD 1.5 ReMIX 2013 everywhere)

After a freak storm destroys the island world of young Sora, (voiced by Haley Joel Osment) he vows to search for his missing friends Riku (voiced by David Gallagher) and Kairi. (voiced by Hayden Panettiere) Along the way he meets several Final Fantasy characters, but more importantly, Donal Duck and Goofy. These two are also searching for someone: King Mickey, who has disappeared. They team up to fight the Heartless, beings made of the darkness who consume hearts to create more of themselves. The Heartless threaten to consume the hearts of all worlds, which only Sora can lock away safely using the Keyblade, a giant key weapon that can open (or close) anything shaped like a keyhole. The trio travel to a variety of worlds based on different Disney films, including Alice in Wonderland, Hercules, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, and The Nightmare Before Christmas. They travel between worlds on a Gummi Ship, but Gummi Ships also loving suck and are a lovely mini-game, so we won't talk about them. In the end, Sora saves the worlds from Ansem, seeker of the darkness, a benevolent ruler turned murdering psychopath and commander of Heartless. He really really wants Kingdom Hearts, the heart of all worlds which he believes to be the ultimate darkness.

The original introduces the core Action RPG mechanics that have become synonymous with the series. Real time combat of attacking with the keyblade combined with magic spells and special combo attacks have been in basically every game. In addition to the normal RPG level up mechanics, Sora has a variety of Abilities which can aid him in combat or in getting around. It also introduces Item Synthesis, using rare drops from enemies to create really awesome poo poo. These mechanics remain in (almost) every game. Also the first game has swimming which was quickly taken out as 3D swimming controls are uniformly terrible.

The American version of the game had a couple new things like a few optional bosses, Expert difficulty level, and a post-endgame secret movie called "Another Side, Andother Story," that could be unlocked if you jumped through a few hoops. These were added into a new Japanese version called Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, along with a few other things:
- The Heartless are colored differently for no reason.
- Added in a bunch of American-only stuff, including fights with Ice Titan, Sephiroth, Phantom, and Kurt Zisa. However, the first two now yield brand new Keyblades.
- Moved around a few trinity locations, and getting all of them actually does something now (completing the journal unlocks Deep Dive)
- New Gummi Ship missions which were dumb as hell, you have to like meet certain conditions when flying between worlds and you'd unlock silly parts like a giant wheel.
- New attack abilities like Leaf Bracer and Stun Blast
- cutscene and Boss battle with Unknown, which was retconned in as being SUPER IMPORTANT! You see, Unknown is Xemnas and immediately after the battle he walks through a portal, into the Realm of Darkness, and says to another mysterious cloaked fellow, "I've been to see him. He looks a lot like you." (aka the very first thing you see in KHII)
- Special new Heartless that are unique to each world and can only be defeated in special ways (usually a silly minigame) that drop brand new, ultra-rare synth ingredients.
- Extended Secret Movie, "Deep Dive," which hints around at Organization XIII and Roxas a bit.


Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories (Game Boy Advance, 2004), Re:Chain of Memories (PS2, 2008)


Immediately following the events of Kingdom Hearts, Sora, Donald and Goofy find themselves being beckoned by a mysterious stranger in a black, hooded coat to come to Castle Oblivion, a place where "To find is to lose, and to lose is to find." There he must face off against members of Organization XIII, who are using a mysterious girl named Namine to gently caress with Sora's memories. You go back through weird memory versions of all the worlds of the first game, and then a mysterious new one, before putting an end to the Organization's shenanigans. At the end, Sora has to go to sleep for a while so the memories can be restored. Also there's a second half of the game called Reverse/Rebirth where you play as Riku who has his own story to tell. And also he is fun as hell to play as.

Chain of Memories has a totally bizarre card based battle system which is kind of awkward to get used to but really fun once you get good at it. Unfortunately, it turned a lot of people off to this game in spite of its plot being pretty vitally important to knowing what the hell is going on in Kingdom Hearts II. It was also on a completely different system, so a lot of people skipped this one. Anyway, you have attack/magic/item cards which are numbered 0-9, higher numbers beat lower numbers except for 0 which beats anything, but can also be beaten by anything. You can combine up to three cards to do a combination attack, or a "sleight," if the numbers add up to a certain amount and are of a specific kind of card. It's actually a lot less complicated than it sounds and like I said, once you get the hang of it, it's a lot of fun.

This game was completely redone in 3D, with voiced cutscenes, and released in Japan alongside Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ for the PS2. It is called Re:Chain of Memories and was released in the US in December 2008. If you want to play this game, play the PS2 version. Do not play the GBA version, there is literally no reason to ever play that lovely game ever again. They even added more cutscenes that weren't in the original and an extra boss fight. An HD version can be found in Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD ReMIX for PS3.


Kingdom Hearts II (PS2, 2005 JP, 2006 US/EU, Final Mix+ 2007 JP)




This game takes place about a year after Chain of Memories. You begin as Roxas, (voiced by Jessie McCartney) a mysterious young boy who lives in Twilight Town and is finishing up the last week of his summer vacation. Then it turns out he actually used to be in Organization XIII and they really want him back. Anyway he goes away and we regain control of Sora, who wakes up and immediately hits puberty. More Disney worlds are in peril and you have to go save them with the Keyblade. Organization XIII is also up to no good, and the remaining members pester Sora at every turn. You see, they are Nobodies, the empty shell that remains when someone with a particularly will heart becomes a Heartless. They have no hearts and therefore feel nothing. Their ultimate goal is to merge with Kingdom Hearts and regain their lost hearts so they can feel but also have superpowers. I think. Their leader is Xemnas, whose real name is Xehanort, who it turns out cast Ansem the Wise into the darkness and assumed his identity, and Ansem (Seeker of the Darkness) was his Heartless. They hope to create Kingdom Hearts by throwing tons of Heartless at Sora who he will kill with the Keyblade, releasing the trapped hearts which then become part of Kingdom Hearts. Anyway Sora saves the day again and mercilessly slaughters the entire Organization before calling it a day and returning to his island with Riku and Kairi.

The big shake up in KHII is that you can DUAL WIELD KEYBLADES LIKE A loving BOSS. Sora can assume Drive Forms, which loving own and turn him into a whirlwind of destruction. This game also adds in Reaction Commands, which let you do different situational moves by pressing Triangle. So basically quick time events, except with only one button so they aren't hard. But they look cool! It also introduces Proud Mode, the new name for Hard difficulty. Gummi Ships are still in and are slightly improved, but still suck.

The American and Japanese versions of this game are virtually identical. The Japanese saw a Final Mix which added TONS of new content:
- Re:Chain of Memories, a complete 3D remake of Chain of Memories with voice acting and stuff. Released in the US as a stand alone budget title in Dec 2008.
- Critical Difficulty, which makes you get less HP from Bonus levels, and the enemies are insanely powerful. You also start with a ton of abilities including "Zero EXP" if you wanna do a lv 1 run!
- Tweaked the levels you learn abilities, and changed around the abilities and stats of some Keyblades. Also there are a few new Keyblades including Two Become One, a Roxas themed Keyblade.
- Absent Silhouettes, which let you refight the Org members that died in Re:Chain and unlock more Bonus Levels and poo poo.
- You now actually fight Roxas when you get to the end of The Castle That Never Was instead of it just being a cutscene, and it is insanely difficult.
- A new Drive Form, Limit Form, which turns you into Sora from the first game, along with all his special abilities. (Ars Arcanum, Ragnarok, Zantetsuken, Sonic Blade, Strike Raid) Also, leveling it up gives you DODGE ROLL!!!!
- New Gummi Ship Missions which are really hard and have ridiculous conditions (like make a ship that fits into a 3x3x3 cube) but reward you with really amazing parts. These were in the original I guess?
- The Cavern of Remembrance, a super hard optional area that has brand new Heartless, tons of awesome platforming that requires all of your Drive Forms to be maxed out, rare items, and ends in a room that let's you refight every single Organization member.
- The Mushroom XIII, goofy Mushrooms that make you play little minigames and reward you if you score high enough.
- A ridiculously over-powered super boss, Lingering Will, who is actually Terra's armor and oh god he's so loving hard.
- If you beat every Data Organization member, clear every Mushroom XIII challenge, and beat Lingering Will, you unlock the Super Secret Movie, "Birth By Sleep." You'll never guess what it is!


Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days (DS, 2009)

This game tells the untold story of Roxas's time with Organization XIII. There, he becomes friends with Axel and the mysterious number XIV, Xion. That's basically all there is to the plot. It takes place immediately after the first game, during CoM, and its ending is the beginning of KHII. The game has you completing Missions and defeating Heartless every day, some mandatory and some optional. You revisit worlds from both the first and second KH games and learn a little about what went on there in that time. This is the only game in the series that doesn't have a Final Mix and hasn't been remade. It's also completely skippable, since the plot is pretty minor in the overall KH story.

This game introduced a lot of radical new ideas, like the panel system. You have a panel grid that you can attach things like Gear panels (which change your weapons), level up, item, magic, accessory and ability panels. Each Mission you do unlocks more slots on the Grid, although you can get more Slot Releasers other ways, too. The game also has Challenge Missions, which reward you with Challenge Sigils which unlock free goodies. The biggest thing this game has is multiplayer Mission Mode. Yes, if you know someone else who has this game (yeah right) you can team up to tackle Missions you've unlocked in the main game. You can choose to play as all 14 members of Organization XIII, and also a few hidden characters too. This mode can also be tackled solo, rewarding you with Mission Crowns that also unlock goodies.


Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep (PSP, 2010 everywhere, Final Mix 2011 JP)

This game takes place ten years prior to the events of Kingdom Hearts. Terra, (voiced by Jason Dohring) Aqua, (voiced by Thea Queen Willa Holland) and Ventus (voiced by Jesse McCartney) are training to become Keyblade Masters under Master Eraqus (voiced by Mark Hamill). After taking the Mark of Mastery Exam, Terra and Aqua are sent to fight the Unversed, creatures made up of negative emotions, on the surrounding worlds, and to investigate a mysterious boy in black named Vanitas. They are also looking for Master Xehanort, (voiced by Leonard Nimoy) who oversaw their exam but then mysteriously disappeared. You play as each of the three characters in their own separate story line, visiting the same worlds but at different times and for different reasons. Finishing all three stories unlocks the Final Chapter which wraps up the game, and then of course there is the Secret Movie, "Blank Points," which can be unlocked if you meet certain criteria.

This game introduces the most radical new mechanic in the whole series: The Command System. Instead of just having a few magic spells and maybe some special abilities, there are hundreds of Commands that can be equipped and utilized by the three characters. The characters share some commands, but each have their own set of unique commands that match their fighting style; Terra's are mostly brutal physical attacks and earth-based spells, Ventus's are mostly quick attacks and wind-based spells, and Aqua's are mostly devastatingly powerful magic spells. These commands, when fully leveled up, can be Melded with other commands to create entirely new ones. They also have combo finishers, which are performed when you fill up a combo bar by doing physical attacks; again, each character has unique finishing moves. And then there are Command Forms, which you activate by doing certain types of commands. These are extremely powerful and make your attacks and finishers into insanely powerful. The characters share a few, but mostly have their own, unique forms. Another new mechanic are Dimensional Links, which let you use special attacks based on characters you've met in the game and D-Linked with. It also has a Multiplayer Arena.

The American version of this game once again contained some extra content, and so a Final Mix was released in Japan with that plus some more:
- Added the new stuff from the American version (Lingering Spirit Vanitas drops the Void Gear, Unknown fight, higher quality facial animations, Critical difficulty, Skull Board in Command Board, Pete D-Link, Castle Circuit in Rumble Racing, the sticker album side quest, "Destiny Islands" song in Ice Cream Beat, and new commands: Union Rush, Voltage Stack and Aerial Recovery.)
- The Unversed have different colors for no reason.
- Rhythm Mixer Command Style, which is awesome and also hilarious.
- Illusion commands, which are received from doing Unversed Missions that appear in worlds after completing them. These commands turn you into certain Unversed and let you do their moves.
- New Mirage Arena battles: Monster of the Deep, Mentor of Light, and Foresight unto Darkness. The first has you fight Monstro in a really annoying as gently caress battle. The second has you fighting The Armor of the Master aka Eraqus's Armor in an incredibly fun boss fight. And the third has you fight No Heart, which is Xehanort's Armor, and it incredibly hard.
- The Secret Movie becomes a Secret Episode which you can play through. It hints at a possible Birth By Sleep Vol. 2


Kingdom Hearts Re:coded (DS, 2010 JP, 2011 US/EU)

Following the events of Kingdom Hearts II, Jiminy Cricket discovers that his Journal that chronicled the events of the first two games has a new message that he didn't write. When Mickey digitizes the journal to check it out, he finds it full of bugs and glitches in the form of Blox. To combat them and decipher the message, they send in a digital version of Sora to go through the data. He travels through data versions of some of the worlds from previous games, and along the way meets mysterious characters who probably shouldn't be there. Then they discover something really important, which Mickey then writes to Sora in a letter, the one he got in the ending of KHII. The secret movie, called "Signs of What's Next," is a set up for Kingdom Hearts 3D.

This game combines 358/2 Days' panel system with BBS's Command system to create something extremely unique. There are three ways to customize your Data Sora: Command Matrix, where you can equip up to two commands per slot; Gear Matrix, which lets you choose your Keyblade, finisher, and accessories; and the Stat Matrix, which lets you install panels to raise your stats, learn new abilities, and a bunch of other goofy poo poo. Inside the Data World, there are System Sectors that consist of several randomly-generated floors. These floors have conditions which, if met, multiply the amount of Sector Points you earn which can be redeemed once you finish all the floors for EXP, Munny, or great prizes.

This is a remake of a Japan-only Mobile Phone game called simply Kingdom Hearts coded. While the game is fun as hell to play and has a lot of poo poo to do in it, the plot is really minimal and this game is extremely skippable. That is, if you hate having fun!


Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (3DS, 2012 everywhere)

This game takes place immediately following the events of Kingdom Hearts II and Re:coded. Following the advice in King Mickey's letter, Sora and Riku take the Mark of Mastery Exam to become full-fledged Keyblade Masters. Yen Sid instructs them that if they unlock Seven Sleeping Keyholes, they will unlock a new power. To do so, they have to visit Sleeping Worlds, which are worlds that were previously destroyed and now exist in a perpetual dream state, unable to wake up. Inhabiting these sleeping worlds are bad Dream Eaters, called Nightmares, which feed off of the bad dreams the worlds are stuck in. Sora and Riku enlist the help of good Dream Eaters, called Spirits, which aid them on their quest to defeat Nightmares, open Sleeping Keyholes, and eventually become Keyblade Masters. However, as they travel between worlds, they are antagonized by a mysterious figure in a black coat, who is accompanied by various villains from Sora and Riku's past. Who is this man? What does he want? What connection does he have to Sora and Riku? Finding the answer could be the key to reaching their goal. The secret movie is a preview for Kingdom Hearts III.

First things first, Spirits are your new allies who fight along side you. You create them by combining Dream Pieces, which are dropped by enemies and found in chests. Sora and Riku each have unique Spirit Links, which can be activated in battle when your Link Gauge is full. Riku uses Link Forms, which are similar to Command Forms in BBS and give him more powerful combos. Sora teams up with his Spirits for Link Attacks, which are combo attacks much like the Limits you could perform with partners/summons in past games.

Commands return in this game, but unfortunately there is no more Command Melding. Instead, you gain new Commands and Abilities by leveling up your Spirits and filling in their Ability Link board. Certain abilities are permanent for both characters, but others are tied to the Spirits in your party. In addition to your commands, you also have the new Flowmotion system at your disposal. This lets you literally bounce off the walls any time to perform crazy, acrobatic moves that can either help to reach new areas or attack enemies. It's kind of broken and lets you scale any wall you want Megaman X style, so movement abilities like High Jump and Glide are completely superfluous. Flowmotion attacks aren't as powerful as Commands, but have no cooldown time and can hit a wide area to make up for it.

The last, and most controversial addition to the game, is the Drop Gauge. It depletes at different rates depending on a number of factors, and once it fully drains you automatically switch to the other character, no matter what you are doing. This is to force you to play as each character evenly, and not get too far as one or the other. This annoyed a lot of people who had it activate in boss battles, only to switch back and find the boss's health replenished. Thankfully there are items that can refill your gauge and slow down the drop rate, which are easy to obtain, so plan accordingly!


Questions you might have:

I wanna get into this series! Where should I start?

Now that six of the seven games have been rereleased (and remastered) in HD, I would recommend checking those out (see the second post). Note that 358/2 Days and Re:coded are movies, so you can get all the plot without playing them. They are still pretty common if you want to play them, keep in mind that 358/2 Days is kinda iffy but Re:coded is very fun. I would do them in this order:
Kingdom Hearts Final Mix HD -> Re:Chain of Memories HD -> Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix HD -> 358/2 Days (movie or game) -> Birth By Sleep Final Mix HD -> Re:coded (movie or game) -> Dream Drop Distance

Just what the hell exactly is going on in these games?

I don't want to summarize the whole plot, but if you have any questions at all, please post them here and USE SPOILER TAGS! EDIT: Or you could read this handy dandy guide which summarizes the entire series up to 3D (contains spoilers, obviously)

I need help with (a game)! What do I do?

Post about it here and I'm sure someone will be happy to help you with anything at all that might trouble you.

This thread is for discussing the whole series, and for any news about Kingdom Hearts III

LPs of Kingdom Hearts games:

Ongoing:
Let's Play KH Re:Chain of Memories by Future Friend (VLP)

Completed:
Let's Play Kingdom Hearts by FutureFriend (VLP)
Kingdom Hearts by First Aid Kite (VLP)
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories by Mistaya (hybrid SS/VLP)
Kingdom Hearts II by Kung Fu Jesus (Warning: he skips all the cutscenes)
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days by myself (VLP) (I need to re-upload the videos)
Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep Final Mix by myself (VLP)
Let's Play the whole KH HD series by GMArcturus and jayman52 (VLP)

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bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??



Kingdom Hearts Unchained-X[chi] (iOS and Android, April 7 NA, TBA Eurotrash)

NOW WITH ITS OWN THREAD!!!

According to Wikipedia:

quote:

Kingdom Hearts χ is a prequel to the Kingdom Hearts series as a whole, taking place before the Keyblade War, the event which established the current organization of the Kingdom Hearts universe. The player assumes the role of a Keyblade wielder who joins one of five factions led by Keyblade Masters fighting for control of the limited Light existing in the world. The game's plot is connected to Kingdom Hearts III, the next main entry in the series. The title refers to the legendary χ-blade, a weapon central to the series' story arc.

A f2p mobile game based on the hit browser game Kingdom Hearts X[chi] that is pretty cool I guess. It takes place before the Keyblade War, long before any of the other games. Has something to do with a book of prophecies and the Foretellers who were the apprentices to the guy who wrote it.
The battles are turn based, although the goal is to win each battle on your first turn. You get Medals which are like commands in BBS. You can either do a regular attack to one enemy (powerful), all enemies (less powerful), or spend meter to use the special attack of that medal (most powerful, can give you buffs). You can combine medals to level them up and then evolve them into more powerful versions, up to 6*. Spend jewels to draw medals at random! Spend 3000 jewels to get ten and you are guaranteed at least one 5* medal! Jewels are rewarded in the game or can be bough with real money. A cool bonus, if you spend $14.99 you get 3000 jewels and unlock all of the daily dungeons until the end of the week (Sunday at midnight in some time zone).
You have to be a part of a Union. Choose from Anguis, Leopardos, Unicornis, Ursus and Vulpeus. At the beginning of the week (Monday) they tally up the amount of damage the members of each Union dealt to heartless, and whoever had the biggest total gets a bunch of bonuses. GO VULPEUS!


Kingdom Hearts III (PS4 and XBone, 2018 supposedly)

I'll be posting as much KHIII information as I can in this post!

D23 2017 TOY STORY WORLD TRAILER!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4y7UK4nqnQ

Old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm-vO2i85Dk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBusI7i23wo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4KMyuIqLsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sE3YZOfTvk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr9twjpM7gU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjBHFb0fZM

MORE NEWS WILL BE POSTED AS IT ARRIVES

COMPILATIONS:


1.5+2.5 HD Remix (PS4, everywhere March 28, 2017)

They finally ported 1.5 and 2.5 to PS4, so now every KH game will be available on PS4! You know, once KHIII comes out.


Kingdom Hearts 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue (PS4, January 24, 2017 everywhere(?)) (Yes, that's the real title)

An upcoming compilation of an HD version of Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance, KINGDOM HEARTS χ[chi] Back Cover (movie), which expands the plot of the mobile game Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ, and Kingdom Hearts 0.2 ~~A Fragmentary Passage~~, which is the BBS Vol. 2 that we've all been waiting for! Sort of. It's a short episode that details Aqua's experiences in the World of Darkness, happening immediately after the secret episode in BBS Final Mix.

NEW TRAILER DEC 8th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu63R9ml_Es

OPENING MOVIE FOR 0.2 A FRAGMENTARY PASSAGE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irl_Dc-Tc8U

TRAILER FROM TGS 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hir8nAGKLoo

TRAILER FROM E3 2016!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPoQw2J177c

ANNOUNCEMENT TRAILER FROM TGS 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lElMrj25JHI


Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX (PS3, 2014 EVERYWHERE)

An HD Re-release of Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, Birth By Sleep Final Mix, and HD cinematics of Re:coded (which is kinda stupid because the plot is pointless but whatever!)

E3 2014 TRAILER! NOW WITH LAUNCH DATES! IN ENGLISH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIzPLvoXTSg#t=14s



Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD ReMIX (PS3, OUT NOW EVERYWHERE)

TRAILER FROM e3 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxRuU2QUjq8

This is an HD re-release of Kingdom Hearts Final Mix and Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories. It's also gonna contain brand new, HD versions of (almost) all the cutscenes from 358/2 Days, plus some other bonus unlockables.

quote:

Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD ReMIX will not only be collecting the "year one" titles and rendering them for HD, but also updating them to better mesh with the newer games in the series. For example, Sora, Riku, and Ansem's physiology models will be replaced with those of Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance, and there will be currently unspecified revisions to the game scripts to maintain consistency with the overall plot. In terms of mechanics, the controls of Kingdom Hearts Final Mix will be made more similar to those of Kingdom Hearts II, and in particular the "?" command will be removed, while Reaction Commands will be added. Cutscenes exclusive to Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, which were either unvoiced or used English voice acting, will receive new Japanese voice acting, and every cutscene from Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, whether it was originally a prerendered scene or used in-game graphics, will be remade for Theatre Mode.

HERE IS A LEAKED TROPHY LIST! IT LOOKS LIKE A GIGANTIC PAIN IN THE rear end!

Retailing for $39.99 in NA, 39,99 Euros in EU, and a million Australian dollars, mate.

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Ezzer
Aug 5, 2011



Haven't played a single one of these games since II came out but that is clearly a screenshot of Neku, my preorder has been placed and I am sufficiently hyped.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

I call the darkness unto me from deepest depths of Earth and sea. From ancient evils unawoken, break the one that can't be broken. To blackest night, I pledge my soul and crush my heart to burning coal. To summon forth a deathly power, to see my hated foe devoured.


One night, my friend and I spent about an hour in Wal-Mart confusing and angering the gently caress out of our mutual friend by just explaining plot points from this series.

Edit:
Also:

Ezzer posted:

Haven't played a single one of these games since II came out but that is clearly a screenshot of Neku, my preorder has been placed and I am sufficiently hyped.

If you have a PSP, you should play Birth By Sleep. It's, in my opinion, the best game in the series so far, and introduces a lot of interesting characters.

Reive
May 21, 2009



Excellent OP!

I'm currently working my way through KH2, I bought it at release but never finished it, hopefully I'll be done with it and BbS by the time 3D rolls around, perhaps Re:Coded and Days as well but I'm focusing on the ones that really matter.

Ezzer
Aug 5, 2011



Senerio posted:

If you have a PSP, you should play Birth By Sleep. It's, in my opinion, the best game in the series so far, and introduces a lot of interesting characters.

Dunno. The whole Organization thing was probably the most cringe-inducing part of the whole series for me, I vastly prefer just romping around in Disney worlds. Birth By Sleep looks like it centers solely on the former aspect of the series.

edit: Also I don't own a PSP

bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


Ezzer posted:

Dunno. The whole Organization thing was probably the most cringe-inducing part of the whole series for me, I vastly prefer just romping around in Disney worlds. Birth By Sleep looks like it centers solely on the former aspect of the series.

edit: Also I don't own a PSP

Birth by Sleep has you romping around Disney Worlds with three different characters who are each fairly unique, and has the best combat system of the entire series. It is seriously tons of fun and even though the plot is pretty important, you can still shut your brain off and enjoy it for the combat.

Also I added to the second post that the entire main cast of TWEWY are in KH3D. That being Neku, Shiki, Joshua, Beat, and Rhyme. At least, those are all that are confirmed so far in the 8 minute trailer.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

How is the voice acting in these games? This is probably the only gaping hole in my RPG experience. Mixing Disney voices with JRPG characters always seemed like a possible recipe for disaster.

TechnoSyndrome
Apr 10, 2009

STARE


What's wrong with the GBA version of Chain of Memories? I find it a thousand times more playable than the PS2 remake. The PS2 version's combat is way too slow.

Behonkiss
Feb 10, 2005


I don't care if the plot is convoluted and/or melodramatic, or that the fan folowing is mainly crazy people, the games in this that include or play like the PS2 originals and don't rehash levels(so basically the two numbered entries, Birth By Sleep, and presumably the 3DS one) are damned fun. Dream Drop Distance is definitely a big reason for me to pick up a 3DS next year, unless something goes horribly wrong and it turns out lovely somehow.

I'd say that the original had the most charm to it (and more novelty since the experience was fresh back then), but KH2 and BBS both improved the battle system quite a bit. I'd actually say that BBS is the best in the series despite technically being a portable spinoff; the moves you can pull off in it are crazy and I like the interconnected story idea it had going on.

Rascyc posted:

How is the voice acting in these games? This is probably the only gaping hole in my RPG experience. Mixing Disney voices with JRPG characters always seemed like a possible recipe for disaster.

They get back the vast majority of the original Disney voices (Those that are still alive at least), but I find the voice acting for the original characters to be good as well. A lot of people seemed to have problems with the acting for the BBS leads, though.

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Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

a negative influence


Rascyc posted:

How is the voice acting in these games? This is probably the only gaping hole in my RPG experience. Mixing Disney voices with JRPG characters always seemed like a possible recipe for disaster.

All you need to know is that Hades makes appearances and he's still voiced by James Woods. The rest of the characters could be voiced by failing lawnmowers and it still wouldn't be enough to drag him down.

That aside, Billy Zane turned in a loving fantastic performance as the first game's villain. Too bad he dropped out of the cast in all other appearances.

Blenheim
Sep 21, 2010


I've tried so many times to understand the Heartless/Nobody/whatever-the-hell relationship but will never, ever be able to do so. It's like the scene in City Slickers about VCR programming.

Behonkiss
Feb 10, 2005


Oxxidation posted:

That aside, Billy Zane turned in a loving fantastic performance as the first game's villain. Too bad he dropped out of the cast in all other appearances.

The fact that Xehanort (I think Xemnas too) was voiced in subsequent games by the guy who voiced Batou in Ghost of the Shell (as well as motherfucking BOBOBO) made up for it. Leonard Nimoy was awesome in BBS, too.

Also, I haven't finished BBS yet (Still need to finish Ventus), but do they ever explain why the Unversed never appear in the games that take place later?

Ezzer
Aug 5, 2011



gently caress, Leonard Nimoy was in BBS?

How much are PSPs going for these days?

Behonkiss
Feb 10, 2005


Ezzer posted:

gently caress, Leonard Nimoy was in BBS?

How much are PSPs going for these days?

Yup. Mark Hamill, too.

Campbell
Jun 7, 2000


The PS2 games were family favorites, and one of the rare franchises that I actually stuck it out to beat rather that just burning out/getting bored. Since getting our PS3, we keep looking for a new Kingdom Hearts but it seems like the franchise has no plans to go to it which sucks. Oh well, the kids are getting 3DSs this year, so the upcoming game might be something to pick up!

bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


EDIT: ^^^^ Presumably, Kingdom Hearts III will be on PS3. And Nomura said that once he finishes Final Fantasy Versus XIII, they will begin working on it.

TechnoSyndrome posted:

What's wrong with the GBA version of Chain of Memories? I find it a thousand times more playable than the PS2 remake. The PS2 version's combat is way too slow.

That's probably because there's a whole third dimension added to the battles I really like the PS2 one, I've tried to replay the GBA one but I find it tough to get back into.

Behonkiss posted:

Also, I haven't finished BBS yet (Still need to finish Ventus), but do they ever explain why the Unversed never appear in the games that take place later?

Yes. The Unversed come from Vanitas, who has a heart of pure darkness. Once he is gone, the Unversed follow.

Ezzer posted:

gently caress, Leonard Nimoy was in BBS?

How much are PSPs going for these days?

Leonard Nimoy plays the bad Master, Mark Hamill plays the good Master. And it is as awesome as it sounds.

Ezzer
Aug 5, 2011



Behonkiss posted:

Yup. Mark Hamill, too.



Yeah, sounds like I need to play this loving game.

Agnostic watermelon
Jul 1, 2009

I'm a lil' Brony!

Holy gently caress Neku! I guess SE didn't forget about the world ends with you



Count me as excited if this is as good as birth by sleep.

Ksrugi
Mar 21, 2010


Alright, I remember playing the first one and becoming horribly frustrated at one stage. I had to return the game to a friend of mine before I could finish it and I've always wondered if I should replay it.

Aladdin's stage. I got stuck and couldn't go anywhere. Is it true you could swim up waterfalls?

Behonkiss
Feb 10, 2005


Birth By Sleep is seriously one of my favorite PSP games. If you liked the first two KH games at all and own a PSP, you should definitely check it out.

Campbell posted:

The PS2 games were family favorites, and one of the rare franchises that I actually stuck it out to beat rather that just burning out/getting bored. Since getting our PS3, we keep looking for a new Kingdom Hearts but it seems like the franchise has no plans to go to it which sucks. Oh well, the kids are getting 3DSs this year, so the upcoming game might be something to pick up!

I read somewhere that the main KH team has been in development hell on that Final Fantasy XIII Versus game, which has been the main roadblock in getting a proper KH3 off the ground. They need to hand that to a new developer a la Metal Gear or just can it, because I want that third game.

Radiapathy
Dec 3, 2011

Snooping as usual, I see.


Very good OP.

I don't personally know any other grown-ups who've played these games, and it's a shame because I think the first two PS2 games are quite good, both in production value and gameplay.

I have the DS games, but I simply don't play games on portables, or even phones. PC and console only. I really wish they'd do an official full-fledged PS3 game. It could be amazing.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010



Fun Shoe

These games are fun as gently caress but man they're so convoluted/anime it's embarrassing at times. It took me four years to beat Kingdom Hearts II because I had to keep borrowing other people's PS2s to play it.
I'll also put in a vote of confidence for the battle system in CoM. People poo poo on card-based combat systems all the time but I don't think I've played a card system that wasn't a ton of fun.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010



I was never a huge fan of the series, but I picked up BBS on a whim and it was fun as hell, so between that and TWEWY cameos, I'm really excited for 3D.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


I remember the first time I heard about this series (well the one game as it was then), my best friend got a PS2 for his birthday, and this came with it. We both thought the premise was so stupid that it had to be awful, and then we played it.

I'm so glad I was wrong. My friend didn't complete it at the time though, he just left it at the final save for about seven years having been burnt out by the side missions, and not realising just how close he was to the end.

This series also has Christopher Lee in it. Christopher Lee. Christopher Lee's delicious smooth baritone coming out of DS speakers. Oh, and Billy Zane for the first game.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

No EXP received.

Oh god I love TWEWY so much and maybe if I buy this they'll make TWEWY 2 already.

What is Joshua saying in the 8 minute trailer, by the way? Kid's cryptic as hell and if they take time from showing off stuff to have him speak three times it must be important.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

I call the darkness unto me from deepest depths of Earth and sea. From ancient evils unawoken, break the one that can't be broken. To blackest night, I pledge my soul and crush my heart to burning coal. To summon forth a deathly power, to see my hated foe devoured.


I just hope they bring back Joshua's english voice actor, because nothing says Jesus like that voice.

JesusSinfulHands
Oct 24, 2007
Sartre and Russell are my heroes

Real talk: Birth by Sleep is the best game in the series, and it's not even close

Kingdom Hearts had a sense of charm and fun, replayability, exploration, a coherent story and bearable dialogue but the gameplay was not that great and poo poo like the Gummi Ships the camera and certain bosses was annoying as hell. KH2 made gameplay more fun but lacked the charm the first game had, with the Disney worlds being completely pointless to the main story and a story itself that just fell apart at the end. I never played 358/2 Days but I heard it was pointless too so whatever. Birth by Sleep has the best gameplay in the series thus far with the Deck Command system, more interesting protagonists than Sora some badass villains and a story that makes sense. We'll see how "Dream Drop Distance" (seriously Square Enix?) goes.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


Blackbelt Bobman posted:

Kingdom Hearts III (???)

Nomura is currently working full time trying to finally finish Final Fantasy Versus XIII, but he has stated that once it is done he will begin working on Kingdom Hearts III.

KHIII will never come out.

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009

We hunted you all just for fun! You're just prey for our hunting games!

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Oh god I love TWEWY so much and maybe if I buy this they'll make TWEWY 2 already.

What is Joshua saying in the 8 minute trailer, by the way? Kid's cryptic as hell and if they take time from showing off stuff to have him speak three times it must be important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlex8ja2eNI

This is a subbed version of the trailer. I must say, the TWEWY crew translated surprisingly well to 3D.

ZombieIsland
Jan 21, 2011

The name is Sherlock Holmes and the address is 221B Baker Street

I have wanted to play the first KH games for the Longest time
Now, but each time I try and play the first or second I just can't get into playing it again. Does anyone else have this problem

Troffen
Aug 17, 2010



ZombieIsland posted:

I have wanted to play the first KH games for the Longest time
Now, but each time I try and play the first or second I just can't get into playing it again. Does anyone else have this problem

I've been wanting to replay the first game, but when I think about the long-rear end intro sequence on the islands and all the unskippable cutscenes, I change my mind. Oh well

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


I wish they would bring back the various movement abilities like they had in the first. Supergliding to get around was THE poo poo.

Ijuuin Enzan
Oct 28, 2006
More fun than dryer lint.

I'm still surprised Peter Pan in Scarlet has never featured in any Kingdom Hearts. It's much more dark than the original and pretty much screams Heartless.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


Ijuuin Enzan posted:

I'm still surprised Peter Pan in Scarlet has never featured in any Kingdom Hearts. It's much more dark than the original and pretty much screams Heartless.



You may be surprised to learn that Disney does not own Peter Pan outside of its' own adaptation.

bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


SpazmasterX posted:

I wish they would bring back the various movement abilities like they had in the first. Supergliding to get around was THE poo poo.

in Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, there is an entire area (The Cavern of Remembrance) that is dedicated to the various movement abilities you unlock through your Drive forms.

358/2 Days, Birth By Sleep, and Re:coded are both pretty platform heavy, and use all those moves. BBS has tons of items that are just barely out of reach and require either platforming abilities (or clever use of Commands) to acquire them.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


Blackbelt Bobman posted:

358/2 Days, Birth By Sleep, and Re:coded are both pretty platform heavy, and use all those moves. BBS has tons of items that are just barely out of reach and require either platforming abilities (or clever use of Commands) to acquire them.

Oh, I know. I remember getting something in Terra's story way before I was supposed to thanks to some smart command usage.

But then again, after Terra's story I also was completely bored of the idea of having to play the game 3 drat times just to get the whole story. So, at least his story gave up pretty much everything I needed to know for the sequels.

Hikarusa
Sep 8, 2011


Momomo posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlex...player_embedded

This is a subbed version of the trailer. I must say, the TWEWY crew translated surprisingly well to 3D.

Man. Before this trailer I was pretty much thinking "okay, this is another Kingdom Hearts game, probably like 358/2 days", but now? This game, above all else, makes me want a 3DS, and I don't care if that makes me look bad.

SpazmasterX posted:

Oh, I know. I remember getting something in Terra's story way before I was supposed to thanks to some smart command usage.

But then again, after Terra's story I also was completely bored of the idea of having to play the game 3 drat times just to get the whole story. So, at least his story gave up pretty much everything I needed to know for the sequels.

It actually didn't. Also, it isn't really replaying it three times as the three characters play rather differently (Terra moreso than Ventus/Aqua). Additionally, Terra's story is pretty much in-arguably the closest one to boring since he's so slow. (Not to say I didn't love some of his unique attacks, though)

Edit: Also, something relevant to both stories past Terra's and the trailer, RIKU HAS TIME SPLICER!

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

I call the darkness unto me from deepest depths of Earth and sea. From ancient evils unawoken, break the one that can't be broken. To blackest night, I pledge my soul and crush my heart to burning coal. To summon forth a deathly power, to see my hated foe devoured.


SpazmasterX posted:

But then again, after Terra's story I also was completely bored of the idea of having to play the game 3 drat times just to get the whole story. So, at least his story gave up pretty much everything I needed to know for the sequels.

The vastly different play styles make up for the whole 'three times' gimmick, in my opinion. At the very least, Aqua was legitimately very fun to play.

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Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Blackbelt Bobman posted:

in Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, there is an entire area (The Cavern of Remembrance) that is dedicated to the various movement abilities you unlock through your Drive forms.
Does this version have an English text option or is there some fan patch people are using to play it?

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