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bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


Rascyc posted:

Does this version have an English text option or is there some fan patch people are using to play it?

All the voice acting is in English, and text is in Japanese, and yeah there is apparently a fan patch. I have no idea how patching works on the PS2 so I can't help you there, I can read Japanese so I just played it straight

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Solaris Knight
Apr 26, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT POWER RANGERS MYSTIC FORCE


Based on what we know about it, 3D will have a poo poo ton of movement abilities too, including twirling around on poles and then leaping onto a Nightmare to stab it in the head

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

?



I was on the fence about this game until I saw the goddamn TWEWY cast show up. Day one purchase for me.

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Citizen of Zada

I am intrigued by this game. I really liked Kingdom Hearts, and enjoyed Kingdom Hearts II up to a point. Got burned out right before the final boss and never picked it back up. I hated the GBA one. I ended up just watching all the cutscenes from it on YouTube right before I got KHII.

And I haven't played a KH game since. Has anybody ever LP'ed Birth By Sleep, or something? I don't own a PSP and I have no plans to get one (especially not for one game).

I'll have to keep an eye out for the 3DS game. Looks pretty boss, and I'd love to get back into the series. Though, I admit I liked it better when it was just about exploring the different Disney worlds. About 2/3 of the way through the first one, it just seemed like the designers suddenly decided the game was supposed to be all dark or something, and they just kept going in that direction. Plus the plot. Jesus Christ the plot...

Traitorous Leopard
Jul 20, 2009



Man y'all are so wrong about Gummi ships. That poo poo was the bomb. If you didn't make a giant flying block and cram as many blasters/jets on them then I don't know what to tell you..

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


Traitorous Leopard posted:

Man y'all are so wrong about Gummi ships. That poo poo was the bomb. If you didn't make a giant flying block and cram as many blasters/jets on them then I don't know what to tell you..

How could anyone hate gummi ships? Nothing was more fun than making a gummi ship that was basically a jet-propelled cockpit with guns.

s.i.r.e.
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


Is there a list of all of the Final Mix stuff from the first two games? I'll probably never play those versions but I'm interested as to what was added.

KH3D has me excited since I've been out of the KH loop since II and I always loved the games but my DS didn't see much use when those games came out and I don't remember them getting the greatest reviews. I plan on playing through them again, were they worth it? The sperg inside me wants to replay the first two, run through the DS titles and maybe watch an LP of CoM and BBS (since I hated the card system and won't ever own a PSP) just for the story. Not like it'll ever make any loving sense anyway.

Oh, and the Sephiroth battle in the first game is loving amazing.

Reive
May 21, 2009



Liku posted:

Oh, and the Sephiroth battle in the first game is loving amazing.

Hell yeah it was! Isn't the rematch in 2 supposed to be much easier?
I haven't got that far yet.

SereneCrimson
Oct 10, 2007

I am the morning sun, come to vanquish this horrible night!


Nice OP!

Kingdom Hearts is one of my top 3 favourite video game series.
I fell in love with the series from the first time playing KH1 in 2002.

I've played and beaten all the games to come out over here (Would love to play the Final Mixes, but I don't feel like going through the process of buying the stuff necessary, I'll just look the things up online) and somehow I manage to keep a decent track of the storyline.


I am ridiculously excited for 3D, day-1 purchase for sure. the TWEWY cast makes it even better.
And I hope BBS vol. 2 happens, because Aqua is definitely my favourite character. so more of her story would be great.


So, this thread could be a good place for me.

Spermando
Jun 13, 2009


I thought Sephiroth was much harder in KH2. He may have had less HP, but he had a lot more cheap stuff, like using Heartless Angel from way above the arena.

DiverTwig
Jul 23, 2003
I ignore all NWS Tags, my Boss's like porn

I played and loved KH, but never played any of the others. I'm still excited for KH3, whenever it does finally come out. What are the chances I'll be totally lost in the story if I don't go back and play some of the others? All I have right now is my PS3, and have no money to buy a PSP so I'm not sure I'd be able to play them if I wanted to.

LemonLimeTime
May 30, 2011

I don't have low self-esteem. I have low esteem for everyone else.

Liku posted:

Oh, and the Sephiroth battle in the first game is loving amazing.

loving impossible is more like it. At least I was able to beat him in 2.

Also, try as I might I'm unable to beat Lingering Vanitas with Terra or beat the Mysterious Stranger in BBS with anyone.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


Spermando posted:

I thought Sephiroth was much harder in KH2. He may have had less HP, but he had a lot more cheap stuff, like using Heartless Angel from way above the arena.

No way. He was much harder in the first. In the second one, I actually fought him as soon as he was available and won after a few tries to get his pattern down.

Rueish
Feb 27, 2009

Gone

but not forgotten.


^^ Sephiroth was waaay harder in KH1, because in the second his pattern is really obvious after 2-3 fights. I beat him pretty quickly after he was first available as well.

I absolutely love the KH games, I've played through KH1, KH2, Chain of Memories, and BBS. I'm fuckin' ecstatic for 3D, I didn't really give the other DS games a try since they seemed to be really inferior to BBS.

Reive
May 21, 2009



Two quick questions for KH2:
Where do you go after timeless river? No new worlds have opened except the first colosseum thing and I don't feel I could manage it without leveling up more first.
Second, can you change difficulty in game? I started on Proud and while it's not terrible I'd kinda rather play leisurely.

Graceful Graveler
May 18, 2009


I don't have a PSP and I will never be able to play BBS. Re:Coded is stupidly entertaining, though. The plot makes absolutely no sense and I love it.

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010



If you can pick up (or borrow) a cheap PSP (the Vita is coming out soon so this may be pretty possible) just to play BBS it's worth it. It's the only Kingdom Hearts game I've ever finished, and totally worth going back on my "gently caress buying anything on a UMD" thing.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


Reive posted:

Two quick questions for KH2:
Where do you go after timeless river? No new worlds have opened except the first colosseum thing and I don't feel I could manage it without leveling up more first.
Second, can you change difficulty in game? I started on Proud and while it's not terrible I'd kinda rather play leisurely.

I think you can return to Radient Garden (and the Tron world) afterwards. And I don't think you can change the difficulty once you start without starting over.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010



Fun Shoe

Reive posted:

Where do you go after timeless river? No new worlds have opened except the first colosseum thing and I don't feel I could manage it without leveling up more first.

I seem to recall going to Port Royale and/or Agrabah after that, though like Splinter said you go back to Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden around that point as well. Just look at your map and figure out where you haven't been yet.

bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


Liku posted:

Is there a list of all of the Final Mix stuff from the first two games? I'll probably never play those versions but I'm interested as to what was added.

Off the top of my head... (may contain some spoilers)

KH Final Mix:
- The Heartless are colored differently for no reason.
- Added in a bunch of American-only stuff, including fights with Ice Titan, Sephiroth, Phantom, and Kurt Zisa. However, the first two now yield brand new Keyblades.
- Moved around a few trinity locations, and getting all of them actually does something now (completing the journal unlocks Deep Dive)
- A couple new Synth items that I can't think of
- New Gummi Ship missions which were dumb as hell, you have to like meet certain conditions when flying between worlds and you'd unlock silly parts like a giant wheel.
- New attack abilities that were kinda bizarre and never showed up again in the series (like a stun blast as your finisher and weird poo poo like that) but some that came back like Leaf Veil.
- cutscene and Boss battle with Unknown, which was retconned in as being SUPER IMPORTANT! You see, Unknown is Xemnas and immediately after the battle he walks through a portal, into the Realm of Darkness, and says to another mysterious cloaked fellow, "I've been to see him. He looks a lot like you." (aka the very first thing you see in KHII)
- Special new Heartless that are unique to each world and can only be defeated in special ways (usually a silly minigame) that drop ultra-rare synth ingredients.
- Extended Secret Movie, "Deep Dive," which hints around at Organization XIII and Roxas a bit.

KHII Final Mix+
- Re:Chain of Memories, a complete 3D remake of Chain of Memories with voice acting and stuff. Released in the US as a stand alone budget title in Dec 2008.
- Critical Difficulty, which makes you get less HP from Bonus levels, and the enemies are insanely powerful. You also start with a ton of abilities including "Zero EXP" if you wanna do a lv 1 run!
- Tweaked the levels you learn abilities, and changed around the abilities and stats of some Keyblades. Also there are a few new Keyblades including Two Become One, a Roxas themed Keyblade.
- Absent Silhouettes, which let you refight the Org members that died in Re:Chain and unlock more Bonus Levels and poo poo.
- You now actually fight Roxas when you get to the end of The Castle That Never Was instead of it just being a cutscene, and it is insanely difficult.
- A new Drive Form, Limit Form, which turns you into Sora from the first game, along with all his special abilities. (Ars Arcanum, Ragnarok, Zantetsuken, Sonic Blade, Strike Raid) Also, leveling it up gives you DODGE ROLL!!!!
- New Gummi Ship Missions which are really hard and have ridiculous conditions (like make a ship that fits into a 3x3x3 cube) but reward you with really amazing parts.
- The Cavern of Remembrance, a super hard optional area that has brand new Heartless, tons of awesome platforming that requires all of your Drive Forms to be maxed out, rare items, and ends in a room that let's you refight every single Organization member.
- The Mushroom XIII, goofy Mushrooms that make you play little minigames and reward you if you score high enough.
- A ridiculously over-powered super boss, Lingering Spirit, who is actually Terra's armor and oh god he's so loving hard.
- If you beat every Org member refight, clear every Mushroom XIII challenge, and beat Lingering Spirit, you unlock the Super Secret Movie, "Birth By Sleep." You'll never guess what it is!

For posterity, Birth By Sleep Final Mix: (I did have to look these up)
- Added the new stuff from the American version (Lingering Spirit Vanitas drops the Void Gear, Unknown fight, higher quality facial animations, Critical difficulty, Skull Board in Command Board, Pete D-Link, Castle Circuit in Rumble Racing, the sticker album side quest, "Destiny Islands" song in Ice Cream Beat)
- Rhythm Mixer Command Style, which is literally the funniest thing ever.
- The Unversed have different colors for no reason.
- New commands: Union Rush and Voltage Stack.
- Illusion commands, which are received from doing Unversed Missions that appear in worlds after completing them. These commands turn you into certain Unversed and let you do their moves.
- New Mirage Arena battles: Monster of the Deep, Mentor of Light, and Foresight unto Darkness. The first has you fight Monstro in a really annoying as gently caress battle. The second has you fighting The Armor of the Master aka Eraqus's Armor in an incredibly fun boss fight. And the third has you fight No Heart, which is Xehanort's Armor, and it incredibly hard.
- The Secret Movie becomes a Secret Episode which you can play through. It hints at a possible Birth By Sleep Vol. 2

That was off the top of my head... kill me now.

Also I promise you all, I am planning on LPing Birth By Sleep soon, I just have to finish doing 358/2 Days. And then I will do Re:coded after that. I do wish there were legit LPs for Re:Chain and KHII Final Mix, though... someone started one of the latter and abandoned it after like two updates.

EDIT: I added links to all KH LPs in the OP (there are only 4!) and I think I'm gonna copy/paste these lists into there too because they are pretty detailed

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Lord of Laughton
Nov 11, 2008

It's hard to say for certain
But I think I like it here.


I love these games, no matter what flak I get from my friends. There's just something about them that just sits so right with me. The boss battles in KH2 are so intense and fun, particularly against Organization 13. I think beating Xaldin on Proud mode was the hardest thing I have ever done. I always thought these games should have a boss mode, so you can repeat any fight you want.

The secret movie for BBS always makes me tear up a bit. Dearly Beloved is a fantastic song.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010



The plot may make no sense, but I love this series. My best friend is getting his girlfriend into video games and he used kingdom hearts to ease her in because of the disney characters and everything. She's playing the majority of the game and he just steps in whenever a hard boss fight pops up.

Liar Lyre
Jun 3, 2011

TOOT TOOT
All aboard!


I remember getting the first game quite clearly. It was released shortly after my birthday and I walked into gamestop, saw the case and was like "why not?" I absolutely adore the gameplay of the series and the Disney nostalgia, but goddamn is the story a tangled mess at this point. Still a great series, should totally get BBS.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


BBS Final Mix also added in a further final mission, which hints at a BBS 2, and bridges the gap even more between BBS and KH.

Also Europe, alas, never got Re:Coded.

Darke GBF
Dec 30, 2006

The cold never bothered me anyway~


Ezzer posted:

Haven't played a single one of these games since II came out but that is clearly a screenshot of Neku, my preorder has been placed and I am sufficiently hyped.

This post sums up my feelings quite well. The simple fact that the TWEWY characters show up means they haven't forgotten them after all and are probably working on a sequel RIGHT NOW and maybe if I buy this they'll...they'll... maybe it will come out... :desperation:

Also, Hunchback of Notre Dame and TRON Legacy are great, so it's not even like I'm buying it just for like 5 characters showing up.

Admiral H. Curtiss
May 11, 2010

I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.


Pesky Splinter posted:

Also Europe, alas, never got Re:Coded.

Pretty sure that's not true: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingdom-Hea...24513271&sr=8-2

s.i.r.e.
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


Reive posted:

Hell yeah it was! Isn't the rematch in 2 supposed to be much easier?
I haven't got that far yet.

He definitely is, and it's somewhat of a let-down. In the first game I remember first trying to fight him at level 56 and being swiftly murdered in 2 hits. It wasn't until 70~ that I was able to beat him after a rough loving fight and tons of failed attempts before it. In the second game you learn his pattern quickly and he's more showy rather than hard.

Blackbelt Bobman posted:

Final Mix info

God drat, thanks. I'll definitely look for your BBS LP when you get around to it.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.


Admiral H. Curtiss posted:

Pretty sure that's not true: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingdom-Hea...24513271&sr=8-2

Whoops! Sorry, I meant Re:Chain of Memories.

Ezzer
Aug 5, 2011



Man I remember playing the first one now, my favorite tactic was abusing the guard/counterattack ability which I think gave you technical XP or something? I don't even remember, that was so long ago.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


Ezzer posted:

Man I remember playing the first one now, my favorite tactic was abusing the guard/counterattack ability which I think gave you technical XP or something? I don't even remember, that was so long ago.

I still think the best part of KH1's combat were the special attacks you could use for timing your attacks and not just spamming the button.

bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


Pesky Splinter posted:

BBS Final Mix also added in a further final mission, which hints at a BBS 2, and bridges the gap even more between BBS and KH.

duh how could I forget that

Liku posted:

He definitely is, and it's somewhat of a let-down. In the first game I remember first trying to fight him at level 56 and being swiftly murdered in 2 hits. It wasn't until 70~ that I was able to beat him after a rough loving fight and tons of failed attempts before it. In the second game you learn his pattern quickly and he's more showy rather than hard.

I somehow beat Sephiroth in the first game on level 55. I don't know how I did it, and I was never able to do it again. But I loving did it.

Ezzer posted:

Man I remember playing the first one now, my favorite tactic was abusing the guard/counterattack ability which I think gave you technical XP or something? I don't even remember, that was so long ago.

Technical EXP was one of my favorite aspects of the first game, I thought it was a super cool idea since it rewarded you for finding enemies' weaknesses and the special tactics to beat bosses. In Final Mix there is an ability that you can get that increases the amount of Technical EXP you get, it was called Tech Up and you could equip four of them.

Haquer
Nov 15, 2009

That windswept look...

Pesky Splinter posted:

Whoops! Sorry, I meant Re:Chain of Memories.

Besides, the DS wasn't region locked so you could've played RE: Coded anyway

Too bad you can't do the same with PS2 games

Admiral H. Curtiss
May 11, 2010

I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.


It's not like the PS2's region lock is particularly hard to overcome, though. If you're an RPG fan and live in Europe you really ought to have a way to play US PS2 games, there's a ton of great RPGs that never got released over here -- and those that did often run at 50Hz without any optimization (so 16% slower than they should).

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless


quote:

I somehow beat Sephiroth in the first game on level 55. I don't know how I did it, and I was never able to do it again. But I loving did it.

I did it at 40, its possible, its just really loving hard, you wanna use the keyblade Belle gives you because it has a high critical ratio, the other thing is keeping up Aero through the ENTIRE FIGHT, otherwise he just can 2 shot you.

MP is insignificant if you have the MP rage ability, he's hitting you so hard its like unlimited MP.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I'm "bananas" for mods showing that I never do anything beyond the minimum in video games!

I did it at level 1.

Admittedly Sephiroth is less impressive when you consider the other dudes running around in FM2+. gently caress the Lingering Armor rear end in a top hat.

U.T. Raptor
May 11, 2010

Are you a pack of imbeciles!?


SpazmasterX posted:

How could anyone hate gummi ships? Nothing was more fun than making a gummi ship that was basically a jet-propelled cockpit with guns.
Wings made of like 5 wings apiece. You are maneuverable as gently caress.

Blackbelt Bobman posted:

Final Mix poo poo
Adding plot-relevant material that's referenced in later games to a Japan only rerelease can gently caress right off

I honestly don't know why they keep doing that "rerelease the game, only better and only in Japan" thing, it's stupid as hell.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

How long of a game is Re:Chained?

bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


Rascyc posted:

How long of a game is Re:Chained?

I'd say 15-30 hours per storyline, so 30-60 total, depending on how much grinding you do for cards and stuff. It's not a tough game to just power through, though.

Unless you're like me and always play on the hardest difficulty though Re:Chain only has Proud and it isn't too bad, I never died as Sora and died as Riku twice to Zexion which is the best boss fight and worth playing the whole game for.

fromagex
Oct 11, 2006


I have tried every incarnation of the PS2 games in hopes of getting hooked. Final Fantasy and all the Disney stuff interests me to no end. But the convoluted story, the poor use of Disney characters, and the gameplay just being hit X as fast as you can, over an over, really turned me off.

The Kingdom Hearts games really bummed me out.

What am I missing?

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Spermando
Jun 13, 2009


Pesky Splinter posted:

Whoops! Sorry, I meant Re:Chain of Memories.

I bought it in Spain. It was translated into several European languages.

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