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bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


Trojan Kaiju posted:

I don't think Gaston has actually been involved though. I think there was a thread injoke during the Days LP that the boss in that game was Gaston but nothing concrete.

I really need to re-upload that Days LP.

Gaston dies in the mobile game the same way he does in the movie sort of except like J-Spot says the Disney parts of that game are holograms or something equally nonsensical

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Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011

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I thought he dies by turning into a giant heartless to fight, the way all the Disney villains who can't fight become bosses

Which is sort of weird because Gaston can fight, at least in the same vein that Clayton and Shan-Yu can.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013



No, his darkness summons a Heartless that looks just like him, then he falls off the roof after you kill the Heartless.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011


Wait Gaston shows up, but it's only in the mobile game?

J-Spot
May 6, 2002

I got 99 problems but a witch ain't one.



Electric Phantasm posted:

Wait Gaston shows up, but it's only in the mobile game?
Yup. He doesn't do much, though. They don't bother introducing him until he storms the castle. His heartless form is kind of cool.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015





J-Spot posted:

Yup. He doesn't do much, though. They don't bother introducing him until he storms the castle. His heartless form is kind of cool.



gently caress why couldn't this be in an actual KH game and not the lovely mobile Skinner box

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

Maleficent should turn out to be the heartless of Jolie-Maleficent.

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010


There was another patch yesterday for 1.5+2.5. It fixed Marluxia/Terra teleporting and Magnet effects, so most of the big obvious problems are fixed (aside from sound).

There are still a ton of small things that are broke. I don't really know at this point if they'll fix it due to them being less obvious, but it'd be really nice so here's hoping they stick on it.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015





Xemnas not screaming when I throw a buiding at his dragonship breaks my heart every time

Terper
Jun 26, 2012



Nina posted:

Oh now it makes sense. I was already worried I had missed some excellent comic where Donald dates some dudes

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Gross boys eat with gloves on


I admit defeat. Carry on, gay sailor duck

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004




Is Three Caballeros the Donald Duck you have to watch on Christmas Eve?

Terper
Jun 26, 2012



Sakurazuka posted:

Is Three Caballeros the Donald Duck you have to watch on Christmas Eve?

No, that's all of these.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3n...N4NBAdj8P587Do6

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.


Where is the best spot for large games grinding in KH1 again?

I've just gone through the "plot twist it was Ansem all along" reveal and all the worlds are full of the Hollow Bastion heartless.

I'm level 50 bit plan on getting up to max (I should probably grab the exp up items too at some point).

There's also some sort super glide IIRC right?

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different


The easiest way hands down for grinding gems is abusing the Bambi summon. I believe it's after 15 kills Bambi has a moderate chance of dropping gems depending on what world you summon him at.

Wonderland for Frost, Deep Jungle for Thunder, and Agrabah. Assuming you're playing 1.5, most of the other materials can be Bambi'd (except for stones. You need to fight specific enemies)

Superglide is given after you defeat Chernabog.

For exp grinding one easy way is to have Aeroa/Aeroga and find rare Truffles in places like Halloween Town. Cast it and stand under them while they're in a corner. If you do it right they'll be bounced into a wall and you can just stand there obtaining more bounces while occasionally recasting Aeroa/Aeroga. You'll get over 5k exp for 100 bounces plus some items. Just make sure to have Ethers and equip items that extend your maximum MP for longer duration Aeroa/Aerogas.

TopHatGenius fucked around with this message at Jun 25, 2017 around 17:18

bizarre deformity
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


1.5+2.5 is currently on sale at Best Buy for $35, for anyone who is on the fence. I have a $5 cert for Best Buy so I might pull the trigger on this one I'm not totally sure though.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.


TopHatGenius posted:

The easiest way hands down for grinding gems is abusing the Bambi summon. I believe it's after 15 kills Bambi has a moderate chance of dropping gems depending on what world you summon him at.

Wonderland for Frost, Deep Jungle for Thunder, and Agrabah. Assuming you're playing 1.5, most of the other materials can be Bambi'd (except for stones. You need to fight specific enemies)

Superglide is given after you defeat Chernabog.

For exp grinding one easy way is to have Aeroa/Aeroga and find rare Truffles in places like Halloween Town. Cast it and stand under them while they're in a corner. If you do it right they'll be bounced into a wall and you can just stand there obtaining more bounces while occasionally recasting Aeroa/Aeroga. You'll get over 5k exp for 100 bounces plus some items. Just make sure to have Ethers and equip items that extend your maximum MP for longer duration Aeroa/Aerogas.

I'm giving up on the stones after trying to get them from those pink snipers in traverse town. I read up on the rest and they're equally as irritating.

I'm down to just needing to level up to 100, beat the hidden bosses and the final boss and to also to the Hades cup time trial.

What's the best way to do that TT? For the hercules cup you could exploit the timer glitch during the herc fight but is there anything like that in the Hades one?

I figure the order of things for me should be to beat the TT, then farm rock titan for exp until i'm at a high enough level to take on the secret bosses.

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010


The time trial is very straight forward if you use magic. If you're going to level 100 before hand, you shouldn't have much issue with anything.

Use Thundaga to kill everything that isn't immune. Use limits to kill bosses if you aren't confident in fighting them. I don't remember if you can use Gravity on the Behemoth there, but if it did that'd help too. Have lots of ethers on everyone. Tell Donald not to use magic, and have Goofy setup to use MP Gift. You'll still want to be a high enough level to where you don't have to worry about much, maybe something in the 70-80's if you aren't confident?

Really though, you should be using Ultima weapon, since it really is good for everything and helps a lot. If not, use Divine Rose for a physical keyblade and Diamond dust for a magic keyblade imo.

To me, it sounds like you should probably grind for EXP first before tackling the time trials or secret bosses, if you're going to go that route. There's no reason not to just do that first if you're already set on it.

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008



bizarre deformity posted:

1.5+2.5 is currently on sale at Best Buy for $35, for anyone who is on the fence. I have a $5 cert for Best Buy so I might pull the trigger on this one I'm not totally sure though.

Just checked and its the same price on amazon.com as well

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.


Ventana posted:

The time trial is very straight forward if you use magic. If you're going to level 100 before hand, you shouldn't have much issue with anything.

Use Thundaga to kill everything that isn't immune. Use limits to kill bosses if you aren't confident in fighting them. I don't remember if you can use Gravity on the Behemoth there, but if it did that'd help too. Have lots of ethers on everyone. Tell Donald not to use magic, and have Goofy setup to use MP Gift. You'll still want to be a high enough level to where you don't have to worry about much, maybe something in the 70-80's if you aren't confident?

Really though, you should be using Ultima weapon, since it really is good for everything and helps a lot. If not, use Divine Rose for a physical keyblade and Diamond dust for a magic keyblade imo.

To me, it sounds like you should probably grind for EXP first before tackling the time trials or secret bosses, if you're going to go that route. There's no reason not to just do that first if you're already set on it.

Yeah, i just managed to clear it.

I don't think i'm going to be able to get the ultimat weapon due to the pain in the arse item synthesis requirements for the stones.

I've beaten Unknown and whatever the desert secret boss is called though. Sephiroth is still kicking my rear end even when i try to cheese him with strike raid and i had a good go at phantom before getting my poo poo pushed in time after time. I think i need to read up on how to beat that one again.

edit: Phantom beaten. Just Sephiroth left.

Kin fucked around with this message at Jun 26, 2017 around 17:55

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Gross boys eat with gloves on


So I tried Union Cross and I have no idea what this story is even supposed to be

fallin1
May 14, 2007

...mostly MSG.

Nina posted:

So I tried Union Cross and I have no idea what this story is even supposed to be

Neither do the rest of us who have played over a year.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013



The title only appears after what, the 400th mission?

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010


Nina posted:

So I tried Union Cross and I have no idea what this story is even supposed to be

The story doesn't really start till like, Quest 350ish or something when you finally meet a character who matters. From there it's still spaced out pretty far, and what they show you is very little. There are still parts from the end of X they need to get to as well, on top of them adding in new story bits in Union X.

Basically, you're a random keyblade wielder that gets picked up off of the ground and joins one of the unions. You do missions for the union and (very) slowly pick up details that there's a corruption somewhere in the unions, and how the events should eventually lead to the keyblade war.

If you're thinking that nothing has happened, that's because literally nothing has actually happened yet.

J-Spot
May 6, 2002

I got 99 problems but a witch ain't one.



Nina posted:

So I tried Union Cross and I have no idea what this story is even supposed to be
I've pretty much forgotten all of the relevant story bits since they drop feed them every few months. If you want to join the goon party and use our shared medals to cheese the upgrade quests post your user ID. You'd have to be in the vulpes union, though.

HGH
Dec 20, 2011


If you need space in the Vulpes union, feel free to kick me, I've pretty much burned out.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.


Welp, that's Sephiroth down too. I think i just have a better grasp of playing KH now after years of playing the sequels compared to playing it fresh back on the PS2.

I didn't even end up cheesing thet fight with strike raid, just dodged a lot and made liberal use of second chance/curaga before wailing on him.

I'm still tempted to try building the ultimata keyblade but i know the grinding for it is going to be too tedious to bear. I've still not managed to successfully beat those sniper enemies for a single power gem, never mind anything else like the goos.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013



Stopga, stopga, stopga, stopga.

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010


^^^ missed this somehow, but ye

Sniperwilds should eventually give you Power Stones if you keep beating them in the normal waves, the rate of them dropping them increases as you defeat more of them (except if they see you and successfully call for help obv).

There are a bunch of different strategies to use. Stop, thunder, Dumbo, Mushu, or just sniping them with fire (though this one is slow). Personally I always liked stop the best, and you can see a good demo of it in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qz4OE6cYJ4#t=630s

Schremp Howard
Jul 18, 2010

What attitude problem?

Not sure if that video covered it, but sniper wilds aren't bad if you go up on the rooftop of the right side of the screen and spam thunder while using the diamond dust and having mp gift available. Synthesis stuff is still very tedious.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.


I just finished up KH and moved onto CoM. I've never played it before and it's quite... different.

I just beat the first boss of traverse town and I sort of get what the mechanics are but it feels liek so much has been left unexplained, like the map, etc. (i've got a room wiht a floating blue card on it and i'm assuming it means i've missed a card?)

The battles are also quite clunky though i expect this is because i'm at the beginning of the game.

Are there any general tips to make the combat a hell of a lot easier? I read on gfaqs that there's a trick to get infinite exp near the beginning by glitching the boss in 100 acre woods and there's a way of getting infinite moogle points (i've not even reached a moogle shop yet) without having to fight enemies.

Edit: my main problem at the minute is that my attacks keep getting deflected because they're not strong enough. I've just entered the second floor and set the world as Wonderland but I don't know if that makes things easier or harder.

Kin fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2017 around 16:01

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Gross boys eat with gloves on


What the gently caress is Union X Why is Ven here and I hate that I can't be sure which story beats I should actually care about because "It was just a dream" is a plot point they've used before

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010


Union X seems to be about what happens to the dandelions right after the keyblade war, where we see the details of Ava's plans and more directions from MoM. It looks like it's gonna connect how the worlds go from Daybreak Town giant world where they're all connected -> what we know in later KH where all the worlds are scattered and know one remembers anything.

"Like...is all of this for real?...Or not?" It looks like the stuff in Disney worlds is holograms/projections, but the stuff in Daybreak Town and Keyblade graveyard is real. It's starting to look like they just did a memory wipe + scattered worlds plan, so something more like a giant worlds reset. Not quite "it's all a dream" but close.

No one knows yet why Ven is there, and him being there fucks up any chronological ideas about when the war took place, or why it occurred. If I had to guess, he's there so we can see exactly how and why he forms the X-blade and/or how he eventually becomes Xehanort's apprentice. It's probably going to be extremely loving stupid.

Kin posted:


Edit: my main problem at the minute is that my attacks keep getting deflected because they're not strong enough. I've just entered the second floor and set the world as Wonderland but I don't know if that makes things easier or harder.

Some people said that they had difficulty with Wonderland as an early world, so it sounds like it's gonna be harder for you.

It just sounds like you're getting card broken, which is normal in that game. You can avoid getting card broken either by using an enemy card, using a sleight, or just having higher numbered cards.

Giving tips for ReCom is strange, only things I can generally say are:

1. Use Enemy cards as much as possible (the things you get from every boss and occasionally from random mobs). Free to use and have varyingly useful effects

2. Use sleights, they're good

3. Stack any 0 cards near the beginning of your deck, so that you can cycle to them easier when you need to card break any enemy in an emergency

4. Grind a bunch. You're going to need a lot of Door cards anyways, so the game pretty much expects you to grind a bunch.

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Gross boys eat with gloves on


Ventana posted:

Union X seems to be about what happens to the dandelions right after the keyblade war, where we see the details of Ava's plans and more directions from MoM. It looks like it's gonna connect how the worlds go from Daybreak Town giant world where they're all connected -> what we know in later KH where all the worlds are scattered and know one remembers anything.

"Like...is all of this for real?...Or not?" It looks like the stuff in Disney worlds is holograms/projections, but the stuff in Daybreak Town and Keyblade graveyard is real. It's starting to look like they just did a memory wipe + scattered worlds plan, so something more like a giant worlds reset. Not quite "it's all a dream" but close.

No one knows yet why Ven is there, and him being there fucks up any chronological ideas about when the war took place, or why it occurred. If I had to guess, he's there so we can see exactly how and why he forms the X-blade and/or how he eventually becomes Xehanort's apprentice. It's probably going to be extremely loving stupid.

Mark my words Xehanort is gonna time travel in any update now

Since the X-Blade never even appears at the end of Unchained X I'm almost thinking there's gonna be another Keyblade War by the end of this weirdo story

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004



Kin posted:

I just finished up KH and moved onto CoM. I've never played it before and it's quite... different.

I just beat the first boss of traverse town and I sort of get what the mechanics are but it feels liek so much has been left unexplained, like the map, etc. (i've got a room wiht a floating blue card on it and i'm assuming it means i've missed a card?)

The battles are also quite clunky though i expect this is because i'm at the beginning of the game.

Are there any general tips to make the combat a hell of a lot easier? I read on gfaqs that there's a trick to get infinite exp near the beginning by glitching the boss in 100 acre woods and there's a way of getting infinite moogle points (i've not even reached a moogle shop yet) without having to fight enemies.

Edit: my main problem at the minute is that my attacks keep getting deflected because they're not strong enough. I've just entered the second floor and set the world as Wonderland but I don't know if that makes things easier or harder.

It might look like an action game but you have to play it like a card game, do it right and the enemies literally can't attack you, wait until they play a card then break it with a sleight, higher number card or 0. 0 can break anything but should be saved for big boss attacks.
I struggled with it for a huge amount of time because I refused to engage with the card side of things and mostly left it up to luck because that'll get you through most random battles but the bosses will eat you alive.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.


Sakurazuka posted:

It might look like an action game but you have to play it like a card game, do it right and the enemies literally can't attack you, wait until they play a card then break it with a sleight, higher number card or 0. 0 can break anything but should be saved for big boss attacks.
I struggled with it for a huge amount of time because I refused to engage with the card side of things and mostly left it up to luck because that'll get you through most random battles but the bosses will eat you alive.

Hmm, the more i think of all of this, the more it feels like it's going to be a chore to play.

I think i'll just go watch the cutscenes on youtube or something.

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010


Nina posted:



Since the X-Blade never even appears at the end of Unchained X I'm almost thinking there's gonna be another Keyblade War by the end of this weirdo story


I kinda hope this actually happens. It's 100x stupider than the current time travel poo poo going on, but yet perfectly plausible because Nomura keeps writing himself into holes.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



Lipstick Apathy

Ventana posted:

I kinda hope this actually happens. It's 100x stupider than the current time travel poo poo going on, but yet perfectly plausible because Nomura keeps writing himself into holes.

Uh, no he doesn't:

Haley Joel Osment posted:

I will never forget walking in for the first session of Kingdom Hearts II and seeing that the producers had set up a bulletin board with a flow chart explaining the sequence of events in different universes and watching them almost struggle to sort it out. It wasn't that they weren't knowledgeable, they just were still unraveling the story for themselves and dealing with the huge amount of information Nomura-San puts out. That was when I personally realized how video games had reached the level of art.

It's art, you heathen.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.


Bloody hell, the story of Chain of Memories is cool and all but the reuse of the same environmental assets just makes it 3 hours of

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Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

Life. Love. Lowry.


Kheldarn posted:

Uh, no he doesn't:


It's art, you heathen.

"I know now without a doubt Kingdom Hearts is art" was right there Haley

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