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Raxivace posted:You start with KH1. Sounds great, I'll do that.
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Airspace posted:Hi, Kingdom Hearts thread. Play release order. Not chronological order. Always.
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Jul 15, 2018 07:13
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Airspace posted:Hi, Kingdom Hearts thread. Memento that poo poo, start with KH2
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Ventana posted:To clarify how his Doom counter works, it decreases by 1 every time you get hit by his scythe attacks, not really because of anything from the timing of reflects or stitch. You can guard most of his scythe attacks in just the same way and the counter will not go down. That is true. I guess I just worded it poorly. Mechafunkzilla posted:Memento that poo poo, start with KH2 Don't start with KH2 since every other game has worse gameplay. I'd even say that if you want to get a better gameplay experience, do this one last. If you're just asking release or chronological order, I'd say play them in release order.
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Jul 15, 2018 09:15
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Just play them straight down the line the PS4 gives you. That's the best way to do it.
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Jul 15, 2018 12:49
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Airspace posted:Hi, Kingdom Hearts thread. always do kh1 first. the secret ending movie usually gives hints at the next game in release order anyways.
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Jul 15, 2018 14:21
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1234567890num posted:Don't start with KH2 since every other game has worse gameplay. I'd even say that if you want to get a better gameplay experience, do this one last. On the other hand, I kinda wonder what would happen if someone went through the KH series in order of worst gameplay (ultimately ending in Re:Com or days or something) and what they would think at the end of it
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Jul 15, 2018 16:04
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SonicRulez posted:Just play them straight down the line the PS4 gives you. That's the best way to do it. Except that puts Days before KH2 which kind of spoils parts of KH2.
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Jul 15, 2018 20:03
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That's easily solved by completely skipping the movies since they're boring as sin
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Jul 15, 2018 21:01
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I am proposing you play all of the games and then watch all of the movies. Cause I don't think you really get anything out of Days that matters in BBS.
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Jul 15, 2018 21:16
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The Days movie doesn't have Xigbar's goldfish line so it's trash.
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Jul 15, 2018 21:17
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It also doesn't have Roxas kicking the poo poo out of Saix, which was goddamn cathartic.
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Jul 15, 2018 23:33
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Yeah the lack of some kind of animation representing the boss battles (apart from Final Xion which they patched in) was the most disappointing part of the Days movie.
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Jul 16, 2018 01:46
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BIG BUFF MAN posted:Yeah the lack of some kind of animation representing the boss battles (apart from Final Xion which they patched in) was the most disappointing part of the Days movie. A solid quarter of the movie would just be Roxas fighting Leechgrave.
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Jul 16, 2018 01:55
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Funky Valentine posted:A solid quarter of the movie would just be Roxas hiding behind rocks fighting Ruler of the Sky.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:30
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Well I found my least favorite AS. It's Vexen. Vexen is stupid.Funky Valentine posted:A solid quarter of the movie would just be Roxas fighting Infernal Engine. I get it.
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Jul 16, 2018 06:16
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Finished all of KH1's super bosses and wound up getting 100% journal in that game without realizing it. Neat! Also going back to it was absolute murder! Like I enjoy the *system* in 1 more but I'd almost rather play DDD then it due to how Sora has literally no reach on anything and feels like his big clown shoes are glued to the floor. Oof. Alls that's left is *Data Fights in 2 *Julius in DDD *Finishing Critical in 0.2 I am *terrified* of the data fights mainly because Larxene pisses me right the gently caress off and I think she's poorly designed and I don't know how to deal with her when she was just a normal shadow fight thing. That and uh... rock... hammer? guy? I never got the power level gimmick and just brute forced him down originally and I doubt that'll slide here.
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Jul 16, 2018 21:15
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iirc reflect melts larxene once she splits
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Tron hugs Sora and says "Isn't this what users do when they're sorry to say goodbye?" and Sora says "It's a first for me." What? Has nobody ever hugged Sora? How sad.Jonathan Fisk posted:iirc reflect melts larxene once she splits Reflect melts everything, but you have to be careful of revenge values. Attacking both of Larxene's clones was a dangerous game in her AS fight for me. I thought it was a pretty well-programmed fight when I last played it. It's the only AS fight that I was very driven to keep challenging because it felt very well-tuned. Like it pushed me to the limit as far as reactions and MP management and deciding when to guard or when to Reflect.
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SonicRulez posted:Tron hugs Sora and says "Isn't this what users do when they're sorry to say goodbye?" and Sora says "It's a first for me." What? Has nobody ever hugged Sora? How sad. His mom's a disembodied voice, how could she hug him?
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I am *terrified* of the data fights mainly because Larxene pisses me right the gently caress off and I think she's poorly designed and I don't know how to deal with her when she was just a normal shadow fight thing. That and uh... rock... hammer? guy? I never got the power level gimmick and just brute forced him down originally and I doubt that'll slide here. Larxene has tells on most/all of her attacks so you'll know when and usually which one, but there's a bunch of them and she has 3 phases of different attacks so it can be tricky to learn it all at first. As always, reflect usually helps out, though you might need to use something else for her 3rd DM. Watch out for the Data Larxene opening, it's different and kinda tricky if you aren't ready for it. There's nothing that special to Lexaeus's power levels, just think of them like HP gates to when he gets a new attack, and you use an RC sometimes to break through them and get a combo while he's weakened. The Data fight should be mostly similar as the AS one.
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Lexaus is honestly the easiest absent silhouette. His attacks are super telegraphed, the hardest part is getting the timing down for the third rock pillar he punches down because of the delay.
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this was the strat i was thinking of lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh0wZXju4Mw
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SonicRulez posted:Tron hugs Sora and says "Isn't this what users do when they're sorry to say goodbye?" and Sora says "It's a first for me." What? Has nobody ever hugged Sora? How sad. usually when people say goodbye to sora they're fading into a darkness portal
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Lessail posted:usually when people say goodbye to sora they're fading into a darkness portal donald and goofy usually just land right on top of sora
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Finished all of KH1's super bosses and wound up getting 100% journal in that game without realizing it. Neat! https://youtu.be/3M_lcWqm8HE This is a really good guide for dealing with all of the data fights. Bizkit explains the strategies for each fight including what equipment and skills you should use, and how to handle the attacks you'll face. You should also check out his video about bad skills in KH2 because there are some (like dodge slash) that are actually detrimental to dealing consistent damage.
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Good evening to everyone except Mushrooms #3 and #8. Those guys are a pain in the rear end. Clearly one more than the other. If anyone has a tip for 10, I'll take it. Not as far as guessing which one is the right one. Dealing enough damage to him to meet the time. SonicRulez fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Finished all of KH1's super bosses and wound up getting 100% journal in that game without realizing it. Neat! The data fights are easier than both Julius and the figure in BBS. They're the only ones I've never beaten on Critical.
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I did it, friends. No more Mushroom shenanigans. 8 was RNG hell, but at least it's done. I don't know what they were thinking.
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Is 8 the one you juggle? there's several methods you can do where you don't just have to hope it flies off in a direction that's convenient The easiest one is to use wisdom form and trap it in a corner. Then it's just timing your shots when it's coming down.
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Amppelix posted:Is 8 the one you juggle? there's several methods you can do where you don't just have to hope it flies off in a direction that's convenient I posted several methods earlier in the thread, but I never got the Wisdom one to work tbh. Maybe with a bunch of trial and error to apply when he pops up where you know how to wait it out, but I didn't find it as easy as other methods. The easiest one for me was the Master form strat even if it's slightly random, but it's whatever works for the player since there are several methods that make it pretty straightforward.
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Ok dudes, I just beat KHIIFM Critical, unlocked Final Form, and parked it. Perusing Jiminy’s Journal, it looks like I have tons to do for the Platinum, I’m wondering what order you would recommend I tackle this stuff. Which endgame stuff/quests off their rewards that will make the rest of what I’m doing easier?
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Bust Rodd posted:Ok dudes, I just beat KHIIFM Critical, unlocked Final Form, and parked it. level up your forms and Get Better At Game once you have the Halloween Town keyblade, the Beauty and the Beast keyblade, and the Auron keyblade, the only thing that'll really make a measurable difference is leveling up your forms and increasing your form gauge (beating sephiroth increases it by one, i forget what the rest are) also i guess grinding for elixirs and megalixirs to use during Org fights
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BrightWing posted:KH2 on Critical is the best game in the series. While the combat in the KH3 trailers looks good I have very low expectations for it. Something or someone changed in the KH development team somewhere along the line of KH2. KH1-Chain of Memories-KH2 rewarded you for learning boss patterns and tells and how to counter them, while also having the option to just be a little bitch and spam Reflega if you were somehow in this just for the story (you poor poor bastard) Starting BBS bosses started operating on "flashy is cool" mode and just kept spamming poo poo over and over at you, resulting in the worst offender of Mysterious Figure where I have yet to find a video where the strategy didn't rely on "spam dodge roll till an opening, hit 1-2 times, keep spamming dodge roll". People say this is a very hard boss. I call it uninteresting.
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Bust Rodd posted:Ok dudes, I just beat KHIIFM Critical, unlocked Final Form, and parked it. After completing all the worlds including 100 Acre Wood and Atlantica, probably like this: Forms/Summon leveling -> Cavern of Rememberance up till the Data org if you haven't already -> Cups till the Goddess of Fate cup for the Orichalcum + and Fatal Crest -> Puzzle Pieces + Chests -> Mushrooms (you'll find most alongside the Puzzle Pieces) -> Sephiroth -> Terra (earlier for easier synth grinding) -> Synthing (using the grinding w/ Terra and Lexaeus for needed materials) -> Data org -> Hades Cups. Anything else for filling the journal from the missions or the gummi ship stuff you can do whenever you want in there. To explain the order, you want the forms for movement options to make puzzle pieces easier and to get through CoR, the first half of the cups since the 2nd half don't give rewards and you might need the Orichalcum+ and Fatal Crest in the following steps, Puzzle Pieces for the Draw Ring recipe which you can upgrade to get Lucky Rings for synthing, then you can start synthing everything. Anything of the other fights like Sephiroth or the Paradox cups can also be done whenever you want too though it's probably easier after the grinding. Some notes: you don't have to farm terra if you don't want to for the Manifest Illusions since you can synth those, but if you use the strats to cheese terra then it's much faster than the alternative. You will have to fight data org members if you need any more Lost Illusions though. There's also a mission in Twilight town that has a pretty simple strat if you use the fenrir keyblade from Sephiroth, so you can maybe wait till beating him before doing the missions there if you want. There's too much to say about synthing and gummi ships specifically so I'll just throw you to the Biz videos on them which can help you figure out how to do those sections best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inviaYMGftQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xomkjhCzUaM I might be forgetting other stuff in there too for plat, but I think that's mostly fine. You can also grind to level 99 whenever you want for any of this.
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Amppelix posted:Is 8 the one you juggle? there's several methods you can do where you don't just have to hope it flies off in a direction that's convenient There are many strategies and none of them work 100% of the time cause the physics just are not perfect. I tried Wisdom, Master, Stitch. I finally got it after failing Master, falling out of the drive, getting frustrated, and just doing one last pull of the Mushroom with regular Berserk + Horizontal Slash. I can imagine mashing X in Master Form is probably the easiest with Berserk after spamming Thundaga, but I kept getting a lot of high 60s - low 70s before Sora would just whiff a hit or do too many spins. 8 wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't the only one, but all of the other guys are pretty straight forward and easy to do in a handful of tries. Bust Rodd posted:Ok dudes, I just beat KHIIFM Critical, unlocked Final Form, and parked it. Level all your drives and the summon bar. Get Second Chance and Once More through leveling. With that in addition to the stuff you got on the way to beating the game, you're ready. The optional fights are just strategy and execution once you have those tools.
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lezard_valeth posted:While the combat in the KH3 trailers looks good I have very low expectations for it. Kingdom Hearts games after 2 are handled by some team in Osaka apparently. Unfortunately I think they’re doing 3 as well, hopefully they’ve learned a bit since then? E: They also did the Phantom Aqua fight in 0.2 though and that’s probably a decent reference for what the new one will be like
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trying to judge how good KH3 will be based on "which team is working on it" is a waste of time. KH3 is a big-budget console game, not a handheld title. The dev team is gonna be much bigger, the development environment vastly different, and staff gets moved around between different projects and different development teams all the time.
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KH3 is going to be fine. I actually have been looking into it out of curiosity and they're apparently listening to KH2 speedrunners and hardcore players for advice on how to handle physics and the like. The team from what I understand even namedropped Bizkit as a key helper for feedback and patched 0.2 based on some of his critique. At E3 people were saying the demo felt floaty still and while it was on the right track there needed to be more gravity. They showed off the demo with a slight update at some con and there's some webms floating around of Sora now having KH2 gravity from swings and being able to transition from air combos to ground combos seemlessly. I have faith.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:The team from what I understand even namedropped Bizkit as a key helper for feedback and patched 0.2 based on some of his critique. Is there a real source for this? Biz joked about it when it happened during his streams earlier in the year when the patches dropped but no one was floating any specific namedrops about the feedback for real. I haven't read every KH3 interview but I haven't seen anything in those either
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