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Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

Bote McBoteface. so what


Crotch Fruit posted:

Is there an easy way to block installing extensions and notifications, and like maybe require a password every time for it? Every once in a while when my wife use the PC I come back to find it crapped up. The latest one was templatehub chose to install an add-on, a search provider, toolbar, and enable desktop notifications. I think I eradicated it from my system by just going into the chrome settings and disabling each of those individually. I'm fine with doing this every once in a while, but I feel like locking down Chrome to like require a password to install addons would be an easier solution than confronting my wife saying "you poo poo up the PC last week!" for all I know it could have even been my kids. Would this even work for malicious add-ons?

You should not only be using a separate Chrome account for each user, you should have a separate Windows account for each user. This is just proper account/credential management in general, but by letting multiple people use your accounts you have a gaping security risk. Imagine your kids start buying stuff on Amazon using your account, for example.

Crotch Fruit posted:

I do link my Google account to Chrome. I guess my next best option would be to setup another user for my wife and/or kids with their own Chrome profile or Google account but telling my wife she can no longer use my PC account opens up another can of worms.

If your wife having her own account is an issue, then your relationship has some serious loving issues. This should be non-negotiable. In fact, you should just do it; create new accounts for your wife and each kid, and log out or lock your account (ideally the former, unless you're stepping away momentarily, in case the PC reboots so you won't lose unsaved work) when you're not using it. Then they just sign into their own accounts and be done with it.

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Crotch Fruit
Jul 1, 2007

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Atomizer posted:

You should not only be using a separate Chrome account for each user, you should have a separate Windows account for each user. This is just proper account/credential management in general, but by letting multiple people use your accounts you have a gaping security risk. Imagine your kids start buying stuff on Amazon using your account, for example.


If your wife having her own account is an issue, then your relationship has some serious loving issues. This should be non-negotiable. In fact, you should just do it; create new accounts for your wife and each kid, and log out or lock your account (ideally the former, unless you're stepping away momentarily, in case the PC reboots so you won't lose unsaved work) when you're not using it. Then they just sign into their own accounts and be done with it.
My kids are 4 and 3 years old, they literally never touch my computer but they are addicted to youtube videos on tablets, they do not need their own user account. Similarly, my wife rarely uses the PC except in cases where she has to print things (someday I will link her phone to the printer but ) and I have always trusted her enough to just use my user account. After being together through 10 years of trusting her with full access to my PC I think it would be a bigger can of worms if I suddenly said "You can not use my computer user account anymore, and no I'm totally not hiding anything" when I really don't care if she sees my porn collection, hell we even watch my porn collection together sometimes. Bottom line is creating a separate Windows account and locking down my PC due to my wife accidentally installing an annoying Chrome extension is a hell of a lot bigger can of worms than just creating a shortcut to make her own Chrome profile to hopefully not mess up my profile.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

I am a strawman spewing, non listening, logic challenged douchebag supreme trolling TFR. Ignore me.

Crotch Fruit posted:

My kids are 4 and 3 years old, they literally never touch my computer but they are addicted to youtube videos on tablets, they do not need their own user account. Similarly, my wife rarely uses the PC except in cases where she has to print things (someday I will link her phone to the printer but ) and I have always trusted her enough to just use my user account. After being together through 10 years of trusting her with full access to my PC I think it would be a bigger can of worms if I suddenly said "You can not use my computer user account anymore, and no I'm totally not hiding anything" when I really don't care if she sees my porn collection, hell we even watch my porn collection together sometimes. Bottom line is creating a separate Windows account and locking down my PC due to my wife accidentally installing an annoying Chrome extension is a hell of a lot bigger can of worms than just creating a shortcut to make her own Chrome profile to hopefully not mess up my profile.

Even if you don't care about the security, having separate Windows profiles is just easier. Let her know your password if you're concerned that she might take it the wrong way, then get into the habit of locking the computer and signing into your own accounts when one of you goes to use it. Just like that you both get to set your own preferences - and not just in Chrome, that includes Windows stuff and most reasonably designed apps - with no further complexity.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

Bote McBoteface. so what


Crotch Fruit posted:

My kids are 4 and 3 years old, they literally never touch my computer but they are addicted to youtube videos on tablets, they do not need their own user account. Similarly, my wife rarely uses the PC except in cases where she has to print things (someday I will link her phone to the printer but ) and I have always trusted her enough to just use my user account. After being together through 10 years of trusting her with full access to my PC I think it would be a bigger can of worms if I suddenly said "You can not use my computer user account anymore, and no I'm totally not hiding anything" when I really don't care if she sees my porn collection, hell we even watch my porn collection together sometimes. Bottom line is creating a separate Windows account and locking down my PC due to my wife accidentally installing an annoying Chrome extension is a hell of a lot bigger can of worms than just creating a shortcut to make her own Chrome profile to hopefully not mess up my profile.

You do want separate accounts to isolate things like preferences, watch history, etc. It's bad enough, for example, when I stream music at work and someone wants to hear some genre that I don't normally listen to, because then that stuff starts getting suggested when I really don't want it to; I can't imagine you'd enjoy your suggested videos getting flooded with Barney or Spongebob or whatever the hell kids watch nowadays. You could certainly just create a "kids" account that they could even share with each other, but there are very good reasons not to let kids share your accounts.

If printing is a common concern, depending on your arrangement you can set the desktop up to be a print server. That's what I've done with Google Cloud Print; I have my Windows server which is always on act as the print server for my ChromeOS devices. I'm assuming that you can do a similar thing with Apple.

You should be able to just straight-up tell your wife, "hey, I've been running into some issues with Chrome, like with extensions and notifications. I need to create separate accounts for us each to use so we can customize the browser without overriding each other's preferences." That's 100% true and accurate and should be totally reasonable.

Crotch Fruit
Jul 1, 2007

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Well I agree that separate user accounts are good for security or customization in cases multiple people have access to a PC the bottom line is I don't care about all that. I have a separate windows account for work, I don't use my Google account at work since I use it unsynced. I don't see my kids youtube history on mine anymore (and I wouldn't care if I did) because my kids use the "youtube kids" app on the tablet when they watch videos. I do not want to learn to log out or lock my PC every time I step away, I like being able to walk up to it nad have it ready to use without logging in each time, for that I am willing to compromise the "security" and/or privacy risk of sharing my account with my wife, and kids (who literally never use my PC). The bottom line is the easiest solution is to just make a separate profile on my account and deal with any adds on if they get installed. As an added bonus, this lets me see if any software has been installed on my PC without having to maintain two user accounts! My wife does not use the PC enough to want to install her own software or customize the start menu to her liking or have personalized anything, my wife does not modify my PC, she tried to print out a picture for my kids and the site had two dozen "Download! Click here! Download!" buttons and she clicked the wrong one thus leading to me cleansing my browser of an extension.

Bottom line is I am not about to go off the deep end and lock down my PC with separate user accounts. I'm not going to start managing multiple user accounts and logging off my PC every time I stop using it.I do not want to say to my wife "you're not smart enough to not break my PC so I'm restricting your access" because regardless of how much I sugar coat it that is (in my opinion, not hers) the root cause of the issue. I feel creating multiple user accounts is an overly complex solution to this problem, I feel that is inconvenient for me to have to log off and back on my semi-personal family PC each time I want to use it. Work PC and account are definitely locked down but not this one.

As for the printer issues, I have two printers, one is a newer Epson Eco tank model which does play well with the phones, the other is a very old black and white laser printer which was made before smart phones were a big deal and does not play well with either phones or Google Cloud print. I can print to it if I install a driver from the manufacturer on my phone and add context menus and it's just a kinda ugly messy solution which is way more complex than just allowing my wife to use my PC if she needs to print black and white every once in a while.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

Oh, oh, telephone line, give me some time, I'm living in twilight


Everyone wants technology to solve their people problems, and when a solution is somehow developed the answer is "but no"

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

This relationship is doomed.

Having said that, Windows does this thing called Switch Users, OP. It's like, less trouble than using the start menu to open a program.

E: Also if she's just printing poo poo then why is Chrome even in this picture?

Crotch Fruit
Jul 1, 2007

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Grassy Knowles posted:

Everyone wants technology to solve their people problems, and when a solution is somehow developed the answer is "but no"
If I create a separate windows account that makes my PC more difficult to use and maintain. Furthermore, that does not solve the problem of Chrome allowing websites to install several ad on and toolbars, it just shoves it onto a other account. Essentially I would have all this click bait poo poo still sitting on my hard drive hoping that it will obey windows permissions and not spy on my account.

A real solution would be to say disable the ability to I install ad ons or search bars or notifications in Chrome. Hell, I already hate that every site I visit immediately pops up a chrome window asking for permission to send me desktop notifications, I would love to turn that feature off. I don't use ad ons or search bars, I would love to disable those features or at least require a password instead.

Creating a new user account is not a solution, all it does is sweep the mess under someone else's rug. But maybe, a real solution might be something like Chrome's kiosk mode.

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018
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Fallen Rib

Does the latest version of Chrome have a weird miniature views/top sites (the "most visited" blobs below the search field) bug that means I'm now missing two entries and am unable to edit them?

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018
I REALLY care about my FLAC files. Really REALLY care. I listen to my huge FLAC collection with my Special Ears. If you don't you're fucking stupid.


Fallen Rib

Crotch Fruit posted:

If I create a separate windows account that makes my PC more difficult to use and maintain. Furthermore, that does not solve the problem of Chrome allowing websites to install several ad on and toolbars, it just shoves it onto a other account. Essentially I would have all this click bait poo poo still sitting on my hard drive hoping that it will obey windows permissions and not spy on my account.

A real solution would be to say disable the ability to I install ad ons or search bars or notifications in Chrome. Hell, I already hate that every site I visit immediately pops up a chrome window asking for permission to send me desktop notifications, I would love to turn that feature off. I don't use ad ons or search bars, I would love to disable those features or at least require a password instead.

Websites can't install add ons or search bars, they can only come through the Chrome Web Store. But they can be installed through executables. Chrome doesn't really have a way of stopping the installation of Windows applications (that's governed by Windows account permissions), and if someone browses to the Web Store and specifically installs an extensions, seems reasonable to assume this is the user's intent.

Crotch Fruit posted:

Hell, I already hate that every site I visit immediately pops up a chrome window asking for permission to send me desktop notifications

Settings -> Advanced -> Content settings -> Notifications (slider to "blocked") to disable those.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

Bote McBoteface. so what


Crotch Fruit posted:

the site had two dozen "Download! Click here! Download!" buttons and she clicked the wrong one thus leading to me cleansing my browser of an extension.

This right here. This is why each user needs their own account. One wrong click and you've got malware on your system, possibly crypto-ransomware, potentially locking you out of all your data, and considering your approach to proper account management, I'm not holding out hope that you have a proper backup system in place. No offense, but you're asking for advice, receiving and ignoring it, and doing things the difficult way.

Crotch Fruit posted:

Bottom line is I am not about to go off the deep end and lock down my PC with separate user accounts.

It's not "locking down your PC," it's "normal account management."

Crotch Fruit posted:

I'm not going to start managing multiple user accounts and logging off my PC every time I stop using it.

Windows key + L to lock your account. It doesn't log you out and you can resume right where you left off (although again, save your work, because Windows will reboot for updates whenever it feels like it.) You can unlock your account in various ways, one of which should be acceptable: password, PIN, camera (facial recognition,) fingerprint reader (available as an inexpensive USB accessory.)

Crotch Fruit posted:

I do not want to say to my wife "you're not smart enough to not break my PC so I'm restricting your access" because regardless of how much I sugar coat it that is (in my opinion, not hers) the root cause of the issue.

It's really simple: "We need separate accounts because when we share applications we inadvertently change settings back and forth." The solution is not to continue the status quo when you've identified an issue and a solution, and just hope you can continue to janitor the system before a serious breach occurs.

Crotch Fruit posted:

I feel creating multiple user accounts is an overly complex solution to this problem, I feel that is inconvenient for me to have to log off and back on my semi-personal family PC each time I want to use it. Work PC and account are definitely locked down but not this one.

No, it's literally the simplest solution: one user, one account. It's so simple and regular that it's been built into Windows since network access and multi-user systems became commonplace, so WinXP or earlier (which would make this something that's been around in Windows alone for almost 2 decades!) As above, locking your PC is as simple as holding 2 keys*, and unlocking it is as simple as one fingerprint. If that's inconvenient then I don't know what else to tell you, aside from the fact that as you may already have experienced, any work environment is likely to require at least as much security (one account per user, no sharing, must log out/lock when away from the desktop, especially if you handle sensitive customer/patient info like I have to.)

*I haven't used it, but I think there's a way to link your phone to your PC via Bluetooth and enable a "lock when away" thing so it automatically locks when you move far enough away (perhaps out of BT range) from the PC, and maybe unlocks automatically when you approach it, so this may very well be a case of multiple solutions already being present and you refusing to use any of them.

Crotch Fruit posted:

As for the printer issues, I have two printers, one is a newer Epson Eco tank model which does play well with the phones, the other is a very old black and white laser printer which was made before smart phones were a big deal and does not play well with either phones or Google Cloud print. I can print to it if I install a driver from the manufacturer on my phone and add context menus and it's just a kinda ugly messy solution which is way more complex than just allowing my wife to use my PC if she needs to print black and white every once in a while.

FYI you can absolutely get that old laser printer to work in GCP via the method that I already mentioned in my last post.

Crotch Fruit posted:

If I create a separate windows account that makes my PC more difficult to use and maintain.

No, as above, literally the opposite. It's more difficult to janitor your own, administrator account than it is to maintain your account just how you like it and let other users do what they want on their own. Then if they gently caress something up the solution can be as painless (for you) as deleting and re-creating the accounts without sacrificing your own. Obviously they need to back up their own important data, but synchronized accounts will make things easier, and if your wife is just printing and not really saving anything locally then that makes this process all that much simpler.

Crotch Fruit posted:

Furthermore, that does not solve the problem of Chrome allowing websites to install several ad on and toolbars, it just shoves it onto a other account. Essentially I would have all this click bait poo poo still sitting on my hard drive hoping that it will obey windows permissions and not spy on my account.

So you don't want malicious extensions and poo poo accessing your account, so you're going to continue to let your wife use your singular account and inadvertently install malicious extensions and poo poo on it instead of on her own account that can be wiped if necessary. Got it.

You're worried about spyware cross-accessing accounts (which is possible but less likely if you observe proper security precautions) so you're going to retain one account as a single point of failure and not even make the malware have to be sophisticated enough to breach a separate account. Got it.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell


I think you can even have your windows user accounts have no passwords, and you just click whichever account when you sit down at your PC.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

Bote McBoteface. so what


You can do that, but it's of course bad for security, especially for a guy worried about malware on one account spying across to his own account.

Crotch Fruit
Jul 1, 2007

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Atomizer posted:

This right here. This is why each user needs their own account. One wrong click and you've got malware on your system, possibly crypto-ransomware, potentially locking you out of all your data, and considering your approach to proper account management, I'm not holding out hope that you have a proper backup system in place. No offense, but you're asking for advice, receiving and ignoring it, and doing things the difficult way.


It's not "locking down your PC," it's "normal account management."


Windows key + L to lock your account. It doesn't log you out and you can resume right where you left off (although again, save your work, because Windows will reboot for updates whenever it feels like it.) You can unlock your account in various ways, one of which should be acceptable: password, PIN, camera (facial recognition,) fingerprint reader (available as an inexpensive USB accessory.)


It's really simple: "We need separate accounts because when we share applications we inadvertently change settings back and forth." The solution is not to continue the status quo when you've identified an issue and a solution, and just hope you can continue to janitor the system before a serious breach occurs.


No, it's literally the simplest solution: one user, one account. It's so simple and regular that it's been built into Windows since network access and multi-user systems became commonplace, so WinXP or earlier (which would make this something that's been around in Windows alone for almost 2 decades!) As above, locking your PC is as simple as holding 2 keys*, and unlocking it is as simple as one fingerprint. If that's inconvenient then I don't know what else to tell you, aside from the fact that as you may already have experienced, any work environment is likely to require at least as much security (one account per user, no sharing, must log out/lock when away from the desktop, especially if you handle sensitive customer/patient info like I have to.)

*I haven't used it, but I think there's a way to link your phone to your PC via Bluetooth and enable a "lock when away" thing so it automatically locks when you move far enough away (perhaps out of BT range) from the PC, and maybe unlocks automatically when you approach it, so this may very well be a case of multiple solutions already being present and you refusing to use any of them.


FYI you can absolutely get that old laser printer to work in GCP via the method that I already mentioned in my last post.


No, as above, literally the opposite. It's more difficult to janitor your own, administrator account than it is to maintain your account just how you like it and let other users do what they want on their own. Then if they gently caress something up the solution can be as painless (for you) as deleting and re-creating the accounts without sacrificing your own. Obviously they need to back up their own important data, but synchronized accounts will make things easier, and if your wife is just printing and not really saving anything locally then that makes this process all that much simpler.


So you don't want malicious extensions and poo poo accessing your account, so you're going to continue to let your wife use your singular account and inadvertently install malicious extensions and poo poo on it instead of on her own account that can be wiped if necessary. Got it.

You're worried about spyware cross-accessing accounts (which is possible but less likely if you observe proper security precautions) so you're going to retain one account as a single point of failure and not even make the malware have to be sophisticated enough to breach a separate account. Got it.
How loving hard is it for you to comprehend I do not want multiple user accounts? It has not been necessary for the last 10 years and it is still not necessary since what you suggest does not prevent malicious websites from installing extensions. If you're so desperate for me to say "gee you're right you win" why not try actually being right? Why not try addressing the original issue for once? Bottom line you are trying to claim it's impossible to prevent Chrome from installing extensions, notifications and other click bait, and the only option you propose is to just let another user account get poo poo up with click bait. . . Which means that I will just have to go in and clean up that account! Now instead of one account to manage, I get the added bonus of another account full of spyware which I don't plan to check very often and this is the one true solution to my marriage and Chrome installing click bait.

Why not try addressing the original problem with actual useful information, like the post about how to make Chrome stop enabling notifications. That was actually genuinely useful information worthy of me listening to. I have said multiple times that I don't feel your solution is right for my needs, why is so hard for you understand that you are not addressing the problem.

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018
I REALLY care about my FLAC files. Really REALLY care. I listen to my huge FLAC collection with my Special Ears. If you don't you're fucking stupid.


Fallen Rib

Crotch Fruit posted:

How loving hard is it for you to comprehend I do not want multiple user accounts? It has not been necessary for the last 10 years and it is still not necessary since what you suggest does not prevent malicious websites from installing extensions

Websites can't install extensions. If your wife is downloading and running .exe files, that's on your Windows user account permissions to prevent - doesn't concern Chrome. Also, I showed you how to disable notifications.

Either lock down your account or tell your wife to stop running every file, that's bound to cause issues.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

Oh, oh, telephone line, give me some time, I'm living in twilight


Crotch Fruit posted:

How loving hard is it for you to comprehend I do not want multiple user accounts? It has not been necessary for the last 10 years and it is still not necessary since what you suggest does not prevent malicious websites from installing extensions. If you're so desperate for me to say "gee you're right you win" why not try actually being right? Why not try addressing the original issue for once? Bottom line you are trying to claim it's impossible to prevent Chrome from installing extensions, notifications and other click bait, and the only option you propose is to just let another user account get poo poo up with click bait. . . Which means that I will just have to go in and clean up that account! Now instead of one account to manage, I get the added bonus of another account full of spyware which I don't plan to check very often and this is the one true solution to my marriage and Chrome installing click bait.

Why not try addressing the original problem with actual useful information, like the post about how to make Chrome stop enabling notifications. That was actually genuinely useful information worthy of me listening to. I have said multiple times that I don't feel your solution is right for my needs, why is so hard for you understand that you are not addressing the problem.

We're not your tech support, you had a problem, we offered the standard solution. Maybe open a bug with the chromium team. And gently caress off with your entitled attitude.

Edit: here's exactly where to file your innovative bug! https://chromiumbugs.appspot.com/?t...issues/entry.do

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Crotch Fruit
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Lambert posted:

Websites can't install extensions. If your wife is downloading and running .exe files, that's on your Windows user account permissions to prevent - doesn't concern Chrome. Also, I showed you how to disable notifications.

Either lock down your account or tell your wife to stop running every file, that's bound to cause issues.
So what you're trying to tell me is that this:

does not exist on the internet?

Hey, maybe PDF Converter is an actual useful, it looks like it has a legit name, it's actually annoying click bait that I don't want on my PC but it looks like a legit app. The only thing I wanted to ask was wether or not I could tell Chrome to not allow websites to present a nice easy "Add To Chrome" button and instead like require permissions or a password or something. This is apparently not possible without a separate user account, I accepted that it would not be possible and provided multiple reasons for why I would rather just remove the extensions every once in a while instead of using a second account. At no point is my wife downloading and running mysterious exe files (we had that talk years ago and she knows better) but when the click bait extensions are presenting them self as "legit" tools required by websites to access the images she wants to print then this lead to an annoying extension being installed. I have set Chrome to disable notifications, I can not set Chrome to disable extensions. I will accept any further security risks from sharing my user account with the one and only person I share my bank account with and I acknowledge this is not the best practice, but A) it's not my work PC B) it's more convenient C) I don't want to manage yet another user account and D) it has worked fine for the past 10 years. Yes, I have important work files on a separate PC with a separate account, with backups, I don't even know why I'm mentioning any of that since it has absolutely nothing to do with disabling extensions in Chrome.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

Bote McBoteface. so what


Crotch Fruit posted:

How loving hard is it for you to comprehend I do not want multiple user accounts? It has not been necessary for the last 10 years and it is still not necessary since what you suggest does not prevent malicious websites from installing extensions. If you're so desperate for me to say "gee you're right you win" why not try actually being right? Why not try addressing the original issue for once? Bottom line you are trying to claim it's impossible to prevent Chrome from installing extensions, notifications and other click bait, and the only option you propose is to just let another user account get poo poo up with click bait. . . Which means that I will just have to go in and clean up that account! Now instead of one account to manage, I get the added bonus of another account full of spyware which I don't plan to check very often and this is the one true solution to my marriage and Chrome installing click bait.

Why not try addressing the original problem with actual useful information, like the post about how to make Chrome stop enabling notifications. That was actually genuinely useful information worthy of me listening to. I have said multiple times that I don't feel your solution is right for my needs, why is so hard for you understand that you are not addressing the problem.

Nah, you're right, everyone else in the thread is wrong.

quote:

OP: "Help! HELP! I'm stuck in a well!!!"

Goons1-4: "Climb! Climb up and take our hands!"

OP: "I'm thinking I should dig... should I dig?"

Goon5: "NO! I was trapped in a well, and digging is a bad idea! Climb out!"

Goons6-8: "We're lowering ropes! Take hold of a rope!"

Goon9: "I've even tied a harness to the end of this one!"

OP: "I can feel the ropes, but I don't want to hold onto them... should I dig?"

Goon10: "No! If you dig, you'll hit water, and then you'll be proper hosed. I should know, I almost drowned."

OP: "I dug a little bit just now, and I haven't hit water. I'm gonna keep digging..."

Goons11-18: "No! Climb! Climb out!"

OP: "Guys, I'm seriously stuck in this well! Help! HELP!!!"

Goon19: "I was trapped in a well once. It took me two years, but I managed to build a climbing machine that pulled me to safety out of a well bucket and a pocket watch. I'm dropping the blueprints, extra buckets, and an assortment of pocket watches."

Goon20: "I've engineered a jet-pack that will rocket you to safety. Stay where you are and we'll lower it down!""

OP: "Thanks for your help, guys. I'm gonna keep digging. I'll find the Mines of Moria and I'll just walk to the surface."

**Goons1-20 piss in the well**

Goon21: "Guys, seriously... stop peeing in the well.""

Now much of what we've discussed is outside the scope of just "Chrome" and goes into "Windows" (and would be better discussed in that thread) but since your explanation got into it, we identified that you need separate accounts for each user, period. Failure to heed that basic principle is at your own peril. Your solution is a limited user account for your wife that can't install programs and can be nuked if it gets compromised, not a weird profile-changing shortcut thing and hoping your wife doesn't click the wrong shortcut and use your own profile anyway. There's no other solution to the, "I don't want other users doing poo poo on my account" problem. If you're not going to take the advice then go elsewhere.

Crotch Fruit
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Atomizer posted:

Nah, you're right, everyone else in the thread is wrong.


Now much of what we've discussed is outside the scope of just "Chrome" and goes into "Windows" (and would be better discussed in that thread) but since your explanation got into it, we identified that you need separate accounts for each user, period. Failure to heed that basic principle is at your own peril. Your solution is a limited user account for your wife that can't install programs and can be nuked if it gets compromised, not a weird profile-changing shortcut thing and hoping your wife doesn't click the wrong shortcut and use your own profile anyway. There's no other solution to the, "I don't want other users doing poo poo on my account" problem. If you're not going to take the advice then go elsewhere.
I accept and appreciate the risks of sharing my account with my wife. Is it stupid? yeah. Does it matter? It hasn't mattered in 10 years. Hell, even I have fallen for the click bait poo poo sometimes and accidentally installed a Chrome extension, I'm totally fine with just running regular virus scans and removing extensions. With all due respect, the only thing I wanted to know is if it was possible to make Chrome say ask for a password as a way to say "maybe this PDF converter or template hub or coupon printer thing might actually be a bad idea" and clearly that is not possible, so I will respect that and administer my PC as always. My solution is to attempt to mitigate the problem by saying "hey wife, the default Chrome icon shortcut you have always used to access the internet will now load a profile for you and the funny looking orange icon will loads my own profile that is linked to my phone and the rest of my life" - thus far, this solution has actually worked perfectly since she continues to use the regular Chrome Icon and I just have to learn that Chrome is now an orange icon instead of a a colorful icon. I've already explained this and it's working great.

Do I need separate accounts to truly secure Chrome? Yes. Do I want separate accounts to truly secure Chrome? No. Is it lovely security practices? Eh maybe. But I trust my wife with my bank account and that is far more less valuable than my Windows user account so for now I will continue to enjoy a fully unlocked single user system that would be a virus magnet in public but is semi-safe at home with people I trust.

101
Oct 15, 2012


Vault Dweller


Crotch Fruit posted:

So what you're trying to tell me is that this:

does not exist on the internet?

Maybe a simpler solution would just be to show her what the extensions dialogue box looks like and not to click 'add to Chrome' because some random website tells her to and also not to install things in general when you're not there. That would take all of about 2 minutes.

Crotch Fruit
Jul 1, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT
CRUSTING MY
JORTS OVER THE
INTERNATIONAL
FEMINIST LEGO
AGENDA


101 posted:

Maybe a simpler solution would just be to show her what the extensions dialogue box looks like and not to click 'add to Chrome' because some random website tells her to and also not to install things in general when you're not there. That would take all of about 2 minutes.
If the answer were that simple I wouldn't be in here in an overly long conversation about extensions. I think half of the problem is that some websites actually seriously claim they NEED extensions to unlock features, like coupons, which my wife loves. . . I know that I have found a couple random pages where I have said "yes, you need to click 'I agree' " or "yes, you need to use their software" and well, trying to train my wife to recognize click bait from legitimate software is a lifelong exercise in frustration.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003




You could also ask your wife to use a different browser, like Edge or Vivaldi or Firefox, that you donít use and can wipe the profile on. Some of them can even be configured to disallow downloads and other stuff. There is no trust issue, Chrome is still there to look at if she wants to see what you are up to, but she has her own icon to click for her own browsing. If you trust each other, explaining to her that she needs to trust websites less shouldnít be an issue. Youíll need to teach your kids the same thing, good practices like separate accounts, no password sharing, logging out when not using the computer, not blindly clicking pop ups, are all mandatory behaviours for being online now, and itís only going to be bigger issue in future.

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Lambert
Apr 14, 2018
I REALLY care about my FLAC files. Really REALLY care. I listen to my huge FLAC collection with my Special Ears. If you don't you're fucking stupid.


Fallen Rib

Crotch Fruit posted:

So what you're trying to tell me is that this:

does not exist on the internet?

Those all are direct links to the Chrome Web Store. But you can be helped! You need Windows 10 Pro to accomplish what you want.

Download the policy templates for Windows from this site and unpack them: https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/187202?hl=en
Install the .adm file in windows/adm/en-US (or whatever your language is) as described in Step 2
Go to Administrative Templates -> Classic Administrative Templates -> Google -> Google Chrome -> Extensions
Double-click "Configure extension installation whitelist"
Set "Enabled", click "Show"
Here, you enter the extension IDs of whitelisted extensions (your adblocker, for example) line by line. You can get the extension ID by opening the extension in the chrome web store, and copying the string after the last / and before the ? (marked in the picture)



After you're done, ok out of both dialogues and open "Configure extension installation blacklist".
Enable and Show, enter a * and ok out of both dialogues


Now, when your wife tries to install any non-whitelisted extension (including themes, apps etc.), this will happen:

Lambert fucked around with this message at Mar 15, 2019 around 09:21

Crotch Fruit
Jul 1, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT
CRUSTING MY
JORTS OVER THE
INTERNATIONAL
FEMINIST LEGO
AGENDA


EoRaptor posted:

You could also ask your wife to use a different browser, like Edge or Vivaldi or Firefox, that you donít use and can wipe the profile on. Some of them can even be configured to disallow downloads and other stuff. There is no trust issue, Chrome is still there to look at if she wants to see what you are up to, but she has her own icon to click for her own browsing. If you trust each other, explaining to her that she needs to trust websites less shouldnít be an issue. Youíll need to teach your kids the same thing, good practices like separate accounts, no password sharing, logging out when not using the computer, not blindly clicking pop ups, are all mandatory behaviours for being online now, and itís only going to be snigger issue in future.
That is a good solution as well, but not ideal and just not a solution I want to use mainly because. . .

Lambert posted:

Those all are direct links to the Chrome Web Store. But you can be helped! You need Windows 10 Pro to accomplish what you want.

Download the policy templates for Windows from this site and unpack them: https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/187202?hl=en
Install the .adm file in windows/adm/en-US (or whatever your language is) as described in Step 2
Go to Administrative Templates -> Classic Administrative Templates -> Google -> Google Chrome -> Extensions
Double-click "Configure extension installation whitelist"
Set "Enabled", click "Show"
Here, you enter the extension IDs of whitelisted extensions (your adblocker, for example) line by line. You can get the extension ID by opening the extension in the chrome web store, and copying the string after the last / and before the ? (marked in the picture)



After you're done, ok out of both dialogues and open "Configure extension installation blacklist".
Enable and Show, enter a * and ok out of both dialogues


Now, when your wife tries to install any non-whitelisted extension (including themes, apps etc.), this will happen:

Holy poo poo! This will actually work great and is exactly what I wanted, and what I thought was not possible, and I will look into this farther and attempt to use this option. Unless someone knows a good reason not to do this, this is exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you!

It's absolutely incredible how much attitude and pretentious bullshit this thread had to go through to get to this point.

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

gently caress

Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at Mar 15, 2019 around 13:48

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

Hipster_Doofus posted:

Crotch Fruit buy your wife an account so we can ask her what it's like to live with a hyper- like yourself.

You're like Picard telling Beverly "we've never needed separate accounts a crew before," totally unaware that there's anything wrong with the current situation.

Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at Mar 15, 2019 around 13:51

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

Op: Letting someone that stupid/oblivious access your computer, or accounts thereon, is exactly how you get defrauded of your entire joint bank account at some point in the future. So while a technical solution to your immediate problem has been presented, you should really think about isolating your accounts in the future, because your wife is a goddamn moron.

Rest of thread: dude asked a plain English "how do I do _______" question, for which an answer actually exists, it would've saved everyone involved a lot of stress if somebody had just answered that immediately instead of, or at least before, arguing with the guy. Way too many goons want to treat every single question as an XY problem instead of just giving people the information they're looking for.


Moving on, I'm going to repost my question from the last page because it got drowned out by that argument:

Javid posted:

Is there some function or flag I can enable or disable to make it so a bunch of extensions don't pop up a tab of update poo poo I don't care about every time I relaunch the browser? It's so annoying.

ILikeVoltron
May 17, 2003
I <3 spyderbyte!

I love how the solution is vastly more complicated then using the login function of windows, which can be as simple as "shake mouse, screen comes on, clicks icon that looks like me, open browser and do whatever I want"

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell


Javid posted:

it would've saved everyone involved a lot of stress

Yeah, I'm sure people were really stressed.

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014



Over the past week this " your browser is managed by your organization" has appeared in the main menu dropdown and some internal pages like history.

When I click on it it tells me I should check about :policy which tells me my browser is in fact not managed by anyone as it should. Huh? I'm confused.

Heners_UK
Jun 1, 2002


Sininu posted:

Over the past week this " your browser is managed by your organization" has appeared in the main menu dropdown and some internal pages like history.
.

GSuite user by any chance? I've got a free account from back when they offered them and it's popped up for me too

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

tehehe


Its showing for me as I use gsuite but I don't have chrome management active, so it really shouldn't be showing up just for logging in with gsuite because the browser is not managed.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

Years later we would look back on this moment and laugh, but at the time it truly seemed as if the world were coming to an end.


I think it could be a bug or just overly cautious because mine is showing the same and when I click it it takes me to a page talking about Chromebooks, which I'm not on. The extent of our "management" is that Group Policy puts an extension on the blacklist and one on the whitelist.

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

tehehe


Found out how to disable that from showing up:


then in chrome://policy/ reload policy and the warning is gone

buglord
Jul 31, 2010



Buglord

Hi thread. How do I remove the weird page effects in Comedy Gas Chamber with Ublock Origin? I couldn't find anything with the forums search, and it didn't seem worth it to make a thread.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

Is there some function or flag I can flip to prevent extensions from opening a changelog/donate to us tab every time they update?

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018
I REALLY care about my FLAC files. Really REALLY care. I listen to my huge FLAC collection with my Special Ears. If you don't you're fucking stupid.


Fallen Rib

Chrome 74 is out: RIP tab mute.

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014



How do I stop physical media keys from controlling Youtube? I use them to pause Spotify music to listen to videos all the time but I think the last update made it so they control the video instead...

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018
I REALLY care about my FLAC files. Really REALLY care. I listen to my huge FLAC collection with my Special Ears. If you don't you're fucking stupid.


Fallen Rib

Sininu posted:

How do I stop physical media keys from controlling Youtube? I use them to pause Spotify music to listen to videos all the time but I think the last update made it so they control the video instead...

Go to
code:
about:flags
and disable Hardware Media Key Handling

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Sininu
Jan 8, 2014



Lambert posted:

Go to
code:
about:flags
and disable Hardware Media Key Handling

Thank you very much!

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