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nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

Does anyone have a consistent fix for embedded tweets not loading? Seems like one thread will be fine then 5 minutes later it stops working. I've turned of uBlock on SA & Twitter, cleared cache, cleared cookies. Still only works in incognito.

Edit: Cool, 2 hrs later with no changes and they're working. FFS Twitter.

nexus6 fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Sep 4, 2020

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FunOne
Aug 20, 2000
I am a slimey vat of concentrated stupidity



Fun Shoe

Just updated to Chrome 85 and suddenly my "app mode" Messages link doesn't work correctly. Now it opens a normal browser window with URL bar etc.

How can I get it back to pretending to be a real app?

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

RELY NOT ON MY HONOR!!! FOR WHEN I OFFER MY WORD OF BOND, I TAKE NOT THAT VOW TO HEART!! CASUALLY, I BRING SHAME TO MY HOUSEHOLD AND RUIN TO THOSE WHO RELY ON MY COMMITMENT, BY SHIRKING MY AVOWED DUTY

FunOne posted:

Just updated to Chrome 85 and suddenly my "app mode" Messages link doesn't work correctly. Now it opens a normal browser window with URL bar etc.

How can I get it back to pretending to be a real app?

Have you checked whether it's set to "open as window" in the context menu of
code:
about:apps

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Sep 16, 2020

FunOne
Aug 20, 2000
I am a slimey vat of concentrated stupidity



Fun Shoe

Thanks, that fixed it, no idea why that CHANGED with my update.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011




Maybe I missed it (or I didn't go back far enough in the list of SHSC threads), but is there a thread for GMail? Desktop version, not the app.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007



Fallen Rib

Weird issue: Chrome isn't letting me move any windows up into my third monitor. Normally that's where I watch YouTube or Plex or whatever, but it's just stopped letting me move windows there. Other software does it no problem; it's not a Display Arrangement issue. Shot in the dark but toggling hardware acceleration does not work. The monitors are different resolutions (the big one is 4K, the other two are 1080p) but I've never had this problem before. Any ideas? I'm on a Mac.

While I'm at it, is there a way to tell Chrome (or other apps, for that matter) to open certain tabs/windows in different monitors on launch?

EDIT: Weird, OK, so it is something to do with Arrangement. If I fiddle with it and move the third monitor directly over another (as opposed to an equilateral triangle like they're arranged physically), and then move a window slightly off-center in the smaller monitor, I can pull it into the larger one... But not if the window is fullscreen. And again, it's still just Chrome. "I swear this has never happened before!"

Mister Speaker fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Sep 24, 2020

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Has anyone gotten video picture-in-picture to work with apple tv (tv.apple.com)? Either with the default options or an extension.

It works in every other video site, though for some of them I've had to install an extension to pop it out with alt-P, as the option doesn't show in right click.

Doesn't work in Firefox either FWIW, so I'm convinced they've done something evil to break it.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.


I've got a really peculiar problem with my chrome installs across all of my devices.

Essentially i work with Google Ads for a living and for the last month, whenever i open a new tab and try to go to ads.google.com the tab instantly closes.

I've done some testing and if i create a new tab then go to any other site, then open up a new tab and go to ads.google.com, it won't instantly close.

Flicking between my pinned tabs seems to sort of do something similar, but not consistently.

It only happens for ads.google.com and it's occurring across chrome installed on 3 of my machines at home (all of which are signed into the same user and synched). Signing out doesn't change the behaviour.

It feels like some kind of virus or bug with how oddly specific it is and how it's happening across all of my chrome installs. Scans aren't picking anything up though so my next step is to try a full browser uninstall across everything, but thought i'd check here first incase it sounds familiar to anyone.

TLDR: Chrome immediately closes a new tab but only when i put in a very specific domain.

biznatchio
Mar 31, 2001



Buglord

It's probably an ad-blocker extension doing it. Chrome on its own won't close tabs unexpectedly, even if the tab crashes it'll display an Oh Snap page. Any sort of 'virus' would only be on one device, and Chrome syncs your extensions between devices.

Should be easy to test by opening a guest profile window, which won't have any extensions running in it, and see if the problem occurs there.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.


biznatchio posted:

It's probably an ad-blocker extension doing it. Chrome on its own won't close tabs unexpectedly, even if the tab crashes it'll display an Oh Snap page. Any sort of 'virus' would only be on one device, and Chrome syncs your extensions between devices.

Should be easy to test by opening a guest profile window, which won't have any extensions running in it, and see if the problem occurs there.

Cheers for that. I couldn't get it to happen again in guest mode and it's definitely the tab being closed rather than crashing/oh snap page. I'm not sure why it's happening the way it does (i.e. only if i don't create another tab to another site first).

The only ad blocker i've got running is adblock plus though i've got ads.google.com set up on the whitelist in that.

edit: just disabled adblock plus and that's stopped it happening. Any idea why it might be doing that just for the one domain?

Kin fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Oct 3, 2020

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

RELY NOT ON MY HONOR!!! FOR WHEN I OFFER MY WORD OF BOND, I TAKE NOT THAT VOW TO HEART!! CASUALLY, I BRING SHAME TO MY HOUSEHOLD AND RUIN TO THOSE WHO RELY ON MY COMMITMENT, BY SHIRKING MY AVOWED DUTY

Don't use adblock plus. Get Ublock Origin. But it'll still happen with URLs that are on the block list.

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

If you're using the Nano Defender extension (anti-anti-adblock), it's been sold to new developers and gorhill (uBlock dev) says it now qualifies as malware after today's update: https://github.com/NanoAdblocker/Na...mment-709428210

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.


Nap Ghost

Hey, I don't really hang out in SH/SC, I don't know if this is the right place to ask this...

Anybody know an easy way to take screen shots and maybe gifs of netflix/amazon Prime/Hulu/etc? I understand why they want to block them and make them hard, but I swear this is for educational purposes. I just want to show what a pan-to-location-transition shot looks like in practice. Or an eyeline match...Or a proper montage... etc...

Snipping tool and my usual screenshot apps block me.

I'd love if it was as easy as a chrome extension or something. Even if you could point me in the right direction with key words for a google search via pm that'd be cool.

Thanks.

deoju fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 22, 2020

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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deoju posted:

Hey, I don't really hang out in SH/SC, I don't know if this is the right place to ask this...

Anybody know an easy way to take screen shots and maybe gifs of netflix/amazon Prime/Hulu/etc? I understand why they want to block them and make them hard, but I swear this is for educational purposes. I just want to show what a pan-to-location-transition shot looks like in practice. Or an eyeline match...Or a proper montage... etc...

Snipping tool and my usual screenshot apps block me.

I'd love if it was as easy as a chrome extension or something. Even if you could point me in the right direction with key words for a google search via pm that'd be cool.

Thanks.

No, you're not going to be able to grab stuff from netflix etc without extraordinary efforts. VVVVV edit: well poo poo this was wrong. I tried several apps on chrome and edge and none worked, but amazon won't even let my install of firefox play vids so I didn't try anything with firefox.

The easiest way I know of to rip this type of thing is a splitter box that says "yes I'm a HDCP-compliant TV, you can give me video" but actually strips the protection and passes unprotected video back out, which you then feed into a HD capture card. Once you have that stuff it's relatively simple -- which shows again how useless DRM is at preventing piracy. But you have to buy stuff and make it work.


Get DVDs and rip them, that's easy and there are a zillion easy to follow instructions and programs for that.

Klyith fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Oct 22, 2020

Artelier
Jan 23, 2015




Seems to work in Firefox browser in Netflix using Greenshot at least.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Just pirate the show then do what you want.

All content has been ripped already by professionals, so the DRM stuff is really not relevant at the point you’re consuming it - just an annoyance for end users.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011




Did they disable ALT+PRINT SCREEN? Because that's how I used to do it...

Natsuumi
Jun 13, 2003

Natsuumi's gone.
I'm Cherlene now.




That's funny, snipping tool grabs from Netflix just fine for me

DreamScythe
Jul 25, 2007


Just discovered that the Web of Trust extension has some pretty severe privacy issues, any recommendations for a replacement?

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week


DreamScythe posted:

Just discovered that the Web of Trust extension has some pretty severe privacy issues, any recommendations for a replacement?

ublock origin w/ 3rd party script blocking

(it's a replacement in that rather than rely on randos to tell you if sites are trustworthy, you don't trust them)

Cheese Thief
Oct 30, 2020



Real question, why would anyone use Chrome when there is Chromium? Don't you get all the benefit of the Chrome exerience, minus the (selling your privacy) to Google? FOSS == ethical; Proprietary == non-ethical, or did I just drink the koolaid thinking this.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 11, 2012

This particularly rapid unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter.





Cheese Thief posted:

Real question, why would anyone use Chrome when there is Chromium? Don't you get all the benefit of the Chrome exerience, minus the (selling your privacy) to Google? FOSS == ethical; Proprietary == non-ethical, or did I just drink the koolaid thinking this.

Huh. I just switched to Firefox (which I nearly typed as Netscape because I am both old and have a migraine). Switching to Chromium genuinely had not occurred to me. BRB.

theratking
Jan 18, 2012


Cheese Thief posted:

Real question, why would anyone use Chrome when there is Chromium? Don't you get all the benefit of the Chrome exerience, minus the (selling your privacy) to Google? FOSS == ethical; Proprietary == non-ethical, or did I just drink the koolaid thinking this.

Chromium branded browsers are not maintained or tested by the core Chrome team, and may not always follow the same update schedule. Also, some of the Google stuff in Chrome is genuinely useful

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week


Cheese Thief posted:

Real question, why would anyone use Chrome when there is Chromium? Don't you get all the benefit of the Chrome exerience, minus the (selling your privacy) to Google? FOSS == ethical; Proprietary == non-ethical, or did I just drink the koolaid thinking this.

For a general audience, chromium does not automatically update by default which is a strong reason to stick with google and let the reptoids have some data. When google discovers a zero-day they patch chrome first and then send the update to the open repo. Also is does not come with widevine drm video plugin, so you can't play netflix amazon etc out of the box. That's fixable but involves downloading regular chrome and extracting the widevine plugin yourself.

For people who can handle that amount of set up, manage a separate updater, & browse safely and with ublock, it's fine.


Also there's Vivaldi which is chrome-based and doesn't collect personal data. That is my main recommendation for a browser for people that prioritize privacy, as it's good and isn't run by buttcoin libertarians. (But it has a different UI, which you may or may not like.)

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Cheese Thief posted:

Real question, why would anyone use Chrome when there is Chromium? Don't you get all the benefit of the Chrome exerience, minus the (selling your privacy) to Google? FOSS == ethical; Proprietary == non-ethical, or did I just drink the koolaid thinking this.

Chromium still has a bunch of the google tracking stuff, is missing some of the media license / DRM stuff, isn’t packaged into helpful release channels, and last I checked doesn’t have built in auto update.

This makes it a bit of a pain to use directly, the only benefit being that it’s actually open source.

Otherwise in usage it’s identical to Chrome, with all the same issues.

Cheese Thief
Oct 30, 2020



Oh thanks. Chromium must be for powerusers. So if it feeds my ego, that's a good thing. To update it, all I do is sudo pacman -Syyu. Easy peasy. Now I just need to stop using FireFox and go full Chromium. But FF has always been good to me, I like the containers. Wish chromium/chrome had a facebook container, and such.
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Cheese Thief fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Nov 15, 2020

TVGM
Mar 17, 2005

"It is not moral, it is not acceptable, and it is not sustainable that the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent"



Yam Slacker

Klyith posted:

Also there's Vivaldi which is chrome-based and doesn't collect personal data. That is my main recommendation for a browser for people that prioritize privacy, as it's good and isn't run by buttcoin libertarians. (But it has a different UI, which you may or may not like.)

I've been looking for an alternative browser for reasons. Thanks for reminding me about this one.

101
Oct 15, 2012


Vault Dweller


Klyith posted:

Also there's Vivaldi which is chrome-based and doesn't collect personal data. That is my main recommendation for a browser for people that prioritize privacy, as it's good and isn't run by buttcoin libertarians. (But it has a different UI, which you may or may not like.)

Brave is open source and prioritises privacy though. Surely that puts it above Vivalid when you can just not enable the crypto stuff

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

I am a strawman spewing, non listening, logic challenged douchebag supreme trolling TFR. Ignore me.


You can use the new Edge, send personal data to Google AND Microsoft.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012
jokes




If I remember correctly the guy who made Vivaldi basically blabbed the big secret of internet browsers: outside of data harvesting (or whatever poo poo Brave does) the way to make money with them is to have a user base and sell the default search engine/bookmarks to Google/Travelocity/Microsoft or whatever. That pays to keep the lights on and pay the devs who really seem to just gently caress around with CSS using the Chromium engine.

To that end, it seems these browsers just compete with each other by loving with Chromium settings and changing the UI or stripping privacy-invading things or whatever to get their userbase up so they can sell bookmarks.

Firefox is the one I like the most because it doesn’t suck the tit of Chromium, which is absolutely not a privacy-conscious browser, at least Chromium isn’t out of the box. That being said it’s slick and the defacto browser standard. After that it’s Brave because they seem to be chasing privacy conscious users while Vivaldi is just trying to make a solid browser without a real agenda other than letting you do what you want to it.

The biggest problem for me is that Chrome on Android manages to be the best browser by a significant margin and Firefox is kinda poo poo on Android. And Android browser devs are even lazier and rarely give a gently caress about privacy, so the browser scene (especially on LineageOS) is a big situation where you pick 2 of Appearance/modification/usability, Speed, and Privacy.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009

A lucky bird.


101 posted:

Brave is open source and prioritises privacy though. Surely that puts it above Vivalid when you can just not enable the crypto stuff
Though I haven't dived into the details, what I've read about Brave and Eich sets off my BS detector. Even if I were to set aside Eich's anti-gay bigotry (which he still holds to, AFAIK?), if I hear anyone evangelizing tech X or Y like it's the second coming of Christ, I'm going to back away slowly. Now obviously you're not doing that, but that's what I've seen from randos on social media.

Edit: is there meaningful substance to their privacy relative to their peer browsers? The way it's tauted, again, comes of as marketing mumbo-jumbo intended to rope paranoiacs into the user base.

Of course, it's not fair to judge anything by its most diehard fans, but I haven't seen any more reasonable takes to balance them out.

Cugel the Clever fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Nov 16, 2020

jokes
Dec 20, 2012
jokes




Cugel the Clever posted:

Edit: is there meaningful substance to their privacy relative to their peer browsers? The way it's tauted, again, comes of as marketing mumbo-jumbo intended to rope paranoiacs into the user base.

Yeah there's substance but it's not enough. They provide, essentially, the bare minimum to avoid targeted ads. Not 100% effective but close.

The biggest offenders of (browser) privacy as far as "we know who you are" are cookies and third-party trackers, like Facebook Pixels and google bullshit. Solvable by browser settings and/or adblockers. Cookie 1231ASBFH123DASB is John Smith from Garbage, KS. We can see him bouncing from google.com to amp.sexblog.com/doeswatchinggaypornmakeyougay and 10 gay porn sites, Google can send him an ad for a product he might like. He bounced over to Facebook in a different tab, and now we see that the Pixel that was on that sexblog.com so long ago planted a cookie that corresponds with his facebook login, and now Facebook knows who you are. Your web session was logged, their algorithm will feed you ads and content based on that new data, which mixes with all your old data.

Then on the 'we know who you are' train, it's browser fingerprinting where they keep track of your browser window size and OS and a hundred details like that which, when taken in the aggregate, create a nearly unique fingerprint-- it might not reveal who you are as an individual but it reveals you as a unique user they can track. How many browsers have your specific set of addons, on your OS, at your specific window size, with your computer's hardware, etc.-- Note they don't know it's John Smith but they know you're the same guy when you go from one website to another because they remembered that the guy with your fingerprint was on both websites, and then they can send an ad to you that is tailored to your interests. Solvable with browser settings and/or addons. Generally they make you appear to be using one of the default configurations so you're completely anonymized.

Then it's IP ratshit like location tracking, IP address, shenanigans like that-- all easily solvable with VPN or sometimes you can spoof an IP or something for the less sophisticated trackers. This is the hardest to solve because VPNs aren't ideal, and importantly you have no control over this without them. All that data up top? Your ISP has it. They know that IP address 10.420.69.9 accessed all those websites. Whether they hold onto it or do anything with it is up in the air, but they could very easily. If you obfuscated all that data up top, Google can still say "IP address 10.420.69.9 went to these websites" or "guy at 420 Bleecker Street went to this website". This is the situation that causes the most "aahh" for people, because your wife can google 'dog vests' because you have a puppy you love. You can take every other precaution but because your wife's phone shared location and you guys live together, now you're considered part of that.


Then it's the most nefarious of the bunch: exploiting WebRTC leaks and poo poo. It's usually just a flip of a switch in your browser settings.

The "paranoiacs" aren't crazy for knowing that there's literally trillions of dollars to be made doing a very simple thing to watch people that are rolling through the most popular websites. Their paranoia is 100% validated and they generally don't even know the extent of it.

Brave resolves most/all problems that aren't IP/location level. Because all of that is usually allowed by default via Chrome, or Chromium. For them it's a flip of a switch. It works for 90% of cases but there are so, so many leaks of user data by design it's not sufficient. It's an excellent start, of course, but it's not comprehensive enough.

If you want true privacy, or whatever, you have to deal with so much poo poo that can be undone by a single un-flipped switch it's funcitonally impossible to go on the internet and be 100% private.

Whoa that was a big post.

The bigger offender is that when you use Brave you'll be helping a bigot make money (unless he's switched to being a good person like so many bigots with money totally do all the time for sure yep lol)

101
Oct 15, 2012


Vault Dweller


Cugel the Clever posted:

Though I haven't dived into the details, what I've read about Brave and Eich sets off my BS detector. Even if I were to set aside Eich's anti-gay bigotry (which he still holds to, AFAIK?), if I hear anyone evangelizing tech X or Y like it's the second coming of Christ, I'm going to back away slowly. Now obviously you're not doing that, but that's what I've seen from randos on social media.

Edit: is there meaningful substance to their privacy relative to their peer browsers? The way it's tauted, again, comes of as marketing mumbo-jumbo intended to rope paranoiacs into the user base.

Of course, it's not fair to judge anything by its most diehard fans, but I haven't seen any more reasonable takes to balance them out.

jokes posted:

The bigger offender is that when you use Brave you'll be helping a bigot make money (unless he's switched to being a good person like so many bigots with money totally do all the time for sure yep lol)

Huh. I didn't know about this and it upsets me.

Seems like it happened in 2008 which I suppose was a pretty different time socially for LGBT stuff in America right? Like Obama was anti-gay marriage then and then flipped on it.

There's also this which sounds quite sincere and apparently there's quite a few LGBT employees under him at Brave.

I mean one of my favourite authors (Brandon Sanderson) said some blatantly homophobic poo poo in 2007 and I sincerely believe has since confronted those views. Religion does some questionable poo poo to people.

I don't really know how to feel about this. Maybe I should check out Vivaldi...

Woebin
Feb 6, 2006





I think looking for a fully privacy-respecting solution is probably a fool's errand, but I'm pretty sure Vivaldi isn't actively pushing to steal your data and such to the extent Google is. On top of that, Vivaldi is just the best browser I've ever seen in terms of UX.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week


101 posted:

Brave is open source and prioritises privacy though. Surely that puts it above Vivalid when you can just not enable the crypto stuff

Basically my personal take on the cryptocurrency thing is that it says to me that Brave is run by grifters. They've already done some super griftery things like their donation scam and redirects on addresses. If I used Brave, how long will it be before the grift is turned on me? The people making it have demonstrated themselves to not be honest. That's why I won't use it and would not tell other people to use it.

And then there's the politics of Eich which are still techbro libertarian even if his stance on LBGT issues has improved.



Finally, my general take on the data collection issue with google is that Chrome is pretty much the last thing to get rid of. Google is probably collecting your data no matter what browser you're using, because google is goddamn ubiquitous on the internet. They have 100 ways to track and data-collect from us, and Chrome is the least of it. Here are things you need to do besides not using Chrome, if you don't want google watching you:
• not having a google account (or not browsing anywhere else while logged into your google account + cleaning cookies & local storage after logging out)
• not having an android phone, or at least minimizing your phone use
• not watching videos on youtube (or treating youtube the same as a google account as above)
not using google to search
• having ublock & privacy badger (or some other even more strict tracking-blocker) installed on your browser

Ditching Chrome and continuing to interact with Google every time you touch the internet is putting your head under a blanket. Ditching Chrome for other reasons, or a mix of privacy and other reasons, is great. But if your concerns are 100% privacy there's a whole lot of other stuff to do.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

RELY NOT ON MY HONOR!!! FOR WHEN I OFFER MY WORD OF BOND, I TAKE NOT THAT VOW TO HEART!! CASUALLY, I BRING SHAME TO MY HOUSEHOLD AND RUIN TO THOSE WHO RELY ON MY COMMITMENT, BY SHIRKING MY AVOWED DUTY

I use Brave for Android because it has background playback. The crypto annoyances I keep disabled.

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

You can use the new Edge, send personal data to Google AND Microsoft.

And get great new features like coupons and Pinterest suggestions that get enabled automatically when they're newly introduced! It will also nag you about Collections, even when you have all feature suggestions and Collections disabled.

TVGM
Mar 17, 2005

"It is not moral, it is not acceptable, and it is not sustainable that the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent"



Yam Slacker

I really just wanted a mobile browser with an adblocker and sync with desktop. I've tried on-phone VPNs, adblocking DNS servers, etc., but some issue always seems to pop up. I tried Firefox for Android because it has add-ons which is great, but it's just too slow. I also had issues with sites not working unless it was Chrome (which speaks to Chromium's increasing monopoly).

Vivaldi for Android has an adblocker built in, is fast, and has decent power user options. The desktop version's customization and options are quite extensive; feels like a third party IM client circa 2006, but not quite foobar2000-level.

Also saw that their business model is explained on their site.

101
Oct 15, 2012


Vault Dweller


Klyith posted:

Basically my personal take on the cryptocurrency thing is that it says to me that Brave is run by grifters. They've already done some super griftery things like their donation scam and redirects on addresses. If I used Brave, how long will it be before the grift is turned on me? The people making it have demonstrated themselves to not be honest. That's why I won't use it and would not tell other people to use it.

And then there's the politics of Eich which are still techbro libertarian even if his stance on LBGT issues has improved.



Finally, my general take on the data collection issue with google is that Chrome is pretty much the last thing to get rid of. Google is probably collecting your data no matter what browser you're using, because google is goddamn ubiquitous on the internet. They have 100 ways to track and data-collect from us, and Chrome is the least of it. Here are things you need to do besides not using Chrome, if you don't want google watching you:
• not having a google account (or not browsing anywhere else while logged into your google account + cleaning cookies & local storage after logging out)
• not having an android phone, or at least minimizing your phone use
• not watching videos on youtube (or treating youtube the same as a google account as above)
not using google to search
• having ublock & privacy badger (or some other even more strict tracking-blocker) installed on your browser

Ditching Chrome and continuing to interact with Google every time you touch the internet is putting your head under a blanket. Ditching Chrome for other reasons, or a mix of privacy and other reasons, is great. But if your concerns are 100% privacy there's a whole lot of other stuff to do.

Yeah this is all completely fair. This post honestly has me thinking I might just go back to vanilla Chrome. They already have me anyway since I don't like Firefox and can't get along with any other search engine other than Google. Plus every web dev targets Chrome so I'll likely run into less weird edge case issues.

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Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

RELY NOT ON MY HONOR!!! FOR WHEN I OFFER MY WORD OF BOND, I TAKE NOT THAT VOW TO HEART!! CASUALLY, I BRING SHAME TO MY HOUSEHOLD AND RUIN TO THOSE WHO RELY ON MY COMMITMENT, BY SHIRKING MY AVOWED DUTY

TVGM posted:

I really just wanted a mobile browser with an adblocker and sync with desktop. I've tried on-phone VPNs, adblocking DNS servers, etc., but some issue always seems to pop up. I tried Firefox for Android because it has add-ons which is great, but it's just too slow. I also had issues with sites not working unless it was Chrome (which speaks to Chromium's increasing monopoly).

Vivaldi for Android has an adblocker built in, is fast, and has decent power user options. The desktop version's customization and options are quite extensive; feels like a third party IM client circa 2006, but not quite foobar2000-level.

Also saw that their business model is explained on their site.

On Android, Edge, Brave and Vivaldi all have built-in adblocking.

Also, Vivaldi is great on everything. And has the most trustworthy people behind it.

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