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effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.
E: double post.

effika fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Aug 12, 2021

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effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

Malloc Voidstar posted:

Just block the new Twitter font with these ublock filters: https://gist.github.com/foone/af8220cb1a3ef6edd3bd1e9f0a843c86
The font list is almost identical so it'll automatically use whatever it was using before.

Javid posted:

Stylus + a twitter-specific userstyle is 100% what you are looking for


Thanks for both of those! Much more automated than my bookmarklet.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Ublock Origin also has a "Block web fonts" checkbox, from what I remeber.

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


there's probably an easy explanation and easier fix here, but i can't figure it out.

basically, when i have an mlb.tv stream going on in a tab, then switch to a new tab, the audio in the original tab will keep going...for a bit. then it mutes itself when the feed goes to like the third commercial break. it didn't used to do this. to be clear, the tab does not mute itself--the feed does.

furthermore, i just saw this happen for the first time with a youtube stream i have going on now. i simply switched to another tab from the white house live tab, and the stream muted itself a few seconds after.

any idea what is going on here?

abelwingnut fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Aug 16, 2021

Allyn
Sep 4, 2007

I love Charlie from Busted!

abelwingnut posted:

there's probably an easy explanation and easier fix here, but i can't figure it out.

basically, when i have an mlb.tv stream going on in a tab, then switch to a new tab, the audio in the original tab will keep going...for a bit. then it mutes itself when the feed goes to like the third commercial break. it didn't used to do this. to be clear, the tab does not mute itself--the feed does.

furthermore, i just saw this happen for the first time with a youtube stream i have going on now. i simply switched to another tab from the white house live tab, and the stream muted itself a few seconds after.

any idea what is going on here?

I've had something similar happen, but with video rather than audio... That was fixed by flipping "Calculate window occlusion on Windows" to Enabled in chrome://flags. Can't guarantee it'll fix it, but worth a shot

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


thanks--it was set to default. not sure if that meant it was set to enabled or disabled, but yea, i've now force-enabled it.

no idea how or why that would work, but here's hoping.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Google is bringing tab mute back to Chrome: Goodbye, Edge!
https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/08/26/chromes-useful-mute-tab-feature-could-be-making-a-comeback/

Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!
SO, Chrome seems to have suddenly decided to add crap to the end of the address bar:
-Send this page
-Create QR code
-Install (webapp)

any way to get these to go away?

Maigius
Jun 29, 2013


I was helping my aunt clean up her Chrome installation, as she had an extension that was marked as either being corrupted and/or having malware. This was not the only dubious extension as she also had a few that popped up pages that Chrome blocked when removed and another that "Gives easy access to common Internet forms". She also had several pages with really fucky URLs bookmark that I think may have been ads.

I suggested she change her passwords after this and installed uBlock Origin. Is there anything else I can do to help protect her?

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Make sure Windows Defender is active (Windows Security is the application) and enable PUA protection to block adware

El Grillo
Jan 3, 2008
Fun Shoe
I don't know where else to ask this:

Apparently google has replaced the Backup and Sync application on my PC, with a new application called Google Drive. I've been trying to find out more information about this thing because it has automatically decided to download the entire contents of my Drive onto my PC, without giving me any options as to what I don't want to sync to my PC.

Anyone know how I can stop this stupid thing downloading the entire Drive contents and filling up my disk? There are literally no options to do this it seems.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
By default, Google Drive streams your files, I doesn't store all of them on your drive.

If you prefer the "Mirror" option, there's no way to exclude certain folders.



Also, I don't get why Google had to ruin Drive: Their old client used to work perfectly. Then they replaced it with that Backup & Sync garbage, famous for installing a shell extensions that would cause all Explorer context menus to take a second to open and causing an error message when shutting down. And now Drive, which is lacking in options every other cloud storage provider offers (like excluding folders from syncing).

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Sep 27, 2021

El Grillo
Jan 3, 2008
Fun Shoe
Oh you can choose what to make available offline there. I see.
Thanks, appreciate it. Nuts that the thing just went ahead and filled up my OS drive without even telling me it'd been installed

GI_Clutch
Aug 22, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Dinosaur Gum
Are there some kind of extension slapfights going on or something? I've had to switch mouse gesture extensions numerous times over the past few months as one will get flagged in the Chrome Store as being in violation, so I find switch to another. Then a while later, my gestures aren't working again because that one has been flagged. But wait, that other extension is back in my list and can be turned on. OK, I guess I'll switch back. Then the next day, I perform my new tab gesture and get two tabs! The one that Chrome disabled yesterday is turned back on and now I have two mouse gesture extensions running at once.

It makes me wonder if extensions get disabled after a number of reports and extension makers are trying to take each other down or something.

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003

GI_Clutch posted:

Are there some kind of extension slapfights going on or something? I've had to switch mouse gesture extensions numerous times over the past few months as one will get flagged in the Chrome Store as being in violation, so I find switch to another.

Probably should recommend you change all your passwords

Allyn
Sep 4, 2007

I love Charlie from Busted!
Anyone know the new method for disabling Chromecast in Chrome? Whatever update I installed last night (94.0.4606.61, it seems) removed the Load Media Router Component flag completely, and disabling that was the old way to do it

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week
:siren: It's happening! No more uBlock, starting Jan 2022!

(They will still allow updates to V2 extensions until 2023, but 50/50 imo whether gorhill keeps updating. He's already pretty disgusted with google.)

So now is the time to transition to a different browser if you want high-quality adblock. Firefox still exists and has pledged to keep the functionality that uBlock needs. Vivaldi is an alt-chromium, and has said they'll keep V2 active. Brave is run by homophobic crypto bros, but is doing the same. Edge, last I saw, is going to follow google's lead.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I haven’t used chrome in many years I just use Firefox as is, but that’s disconcerting news.

I also wasn’t aware of Brave’s problems, guess I’m in the market for a better work/porn browser (my Firefox is locked down so hard on the privacy/adblocker front it’s hard to use it reliably for work/porn).

Vivaldi uses chromium I guess?

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

jokes posted:

I also wasn’t aware of Brave’s problems,

This is just my personal feeling about Brave, but to me anyone heavily promoting crypto bullshit falls in the category of "grifter" and that makes them fundamentally untrustable.

But also I very much dislike how they promote themselves by saying "we'll stop the Big Guys from doing X Y and Z to our users". But then they've done X2, Ψ, and Ƨ with their browser, and their defense seems mostly to be "but we're not a Big Guy, we need revenue!"

jokes posted:

guess I’m in the market for a better work/porn browser (my Firefox is locked down so hard on the privacy/adblocker front it’s hard to use it reliably for work/porn).

Vivaldi uses chromium I guess?

Yes. They also have a firm anti-data-collection promise, but that just means they don't do data collection themselves from their own users. Vivaldi doesn't have any built-in adblock or tracker blocking like Brave does, so as a direct replacement for Brave it needs ublock and such.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Klyith posted:

This is just my personal feeling about Brave, but to me anyone heavily promoting crypto bullshit falls in the category of "grifter" and that makes them fundamentally untrustable.

But also I very much dislike how they promote themselves by saying "we'll stop the Big Guys from doing X Y and Z to our users". But then they've done X2, Ψ, and Ƨ with their browser, and their defense seems mostly to be "but we're not a Big Guy, we need revenue!"
:same:

I don't know enough to speak to the pros and cons of the browser itself from a technical perspective, but the proponents of it (at least within the first year of its launch) set off my grift-dar something fierce. I just fundamentally don't get how a browser attracts a vocal pack of cultish fanboys, but Brave did it.

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



I've used Chrome since basically day 1 but there's no way in hell I'm going to use a browser without adblock.

Natsuumi
Jun 13, 2003

Natsuumi's gone.
I'm Cherlene now.


What will be the ad blocking options? Or is it basically gone? I don't really want to go to another browser but it sounds like I'll be forced to.

TVGM
Mar 17, 2005

"It is not moral, it is not acceptable, and it is not sustainable that the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent"

Yam Slacker

Klyith posted:

Vivaldi doesn't have any built-in adblock or tracker blocking like Brave does, so as a direct replacement for Brave it needs ublock and such.

Vivaldi does have built-in ad blocking. You can also install Chrome extensions on it like uBlock to get more nuanced filters.

The only problems I have with it are:
- The interface is not as responsive as Chrome
- Sometimes page loads will error out without telling you (just a blank page with no status). This generally happens on internal network pages. A refresh usually fixes it.

TVGM fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Oct 3, 2021

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Natsuumi posted:

What will be the ad blocking options? Or is it basically gone? I don't really want to go to another browser but it sounds like I'll be forced to.

There will be extremely lovely ad blocking. Adblock Plus will still be there, but even that will be worse than before (ABP uses EasyList out of the box, EasyList alone has 2x the rules allowed by the new chrome). And all the advanced things that uBlock can do are right out.

Think ad blocking as it was before like 2010 but the ad networks still have the last decade of practice in making ads that are hard to block.


(It's also gonna kill all the *monkey extensions, because V3 also bans "remotely-hosted code" which really means all code that's not in the extension package.)

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
There will still be adblocking, just Safari-level adblocking.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Natsuumi posted:

What will be the ad blocking options? Or is it basically gone? I don't really want to go to another browser but it sounds like I'll be forced to.

They are deliberately breaking adblocking because they’re an advertising company.

Leave or stare at ads.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Then why did Apple do the same thing years ago. There are very obvious security arguments for why extensions shouldn't have the access they currently have.

I'd prefer better adblocking, and Firefox currently allows the deepest access. But the argument that it's all about Google being an advertisement company is very reductive.

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Oct 3, 2021

zachol
Feb 13, 2009

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If anything I'd think it would be the reverse, Google seemed for a while to be trying to break non-google advertising and setting up their own method that sidesteps the usual tracking. I'd expect they'd have continued to support adblocking to put pressure on their competitors, especially when it would let them say "we're trying to respect privacy" by using their "anonymous" FLoC system and continuing to block "bad tracking."

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Fame Douglas posted:

Then why did Apple do the same thing years ago. There are very obvious security arguments for why extensions shouldn't have the access they currently have.

There are equally obvious security arguments for why a random 3rd party ad network shouldn't be allowed to run arbitrary javascript in my browser just because they paid someone a nickel. This has historically been a huge source of drive-by malware, when sufficiently nasty browser zero-days were discovered. Plus actual hacks have happened because websites were compromised enough to insert an additional script load from evilfakecdn.com which then stole CCs or passwords. (The Newegg hack worked like this.)

If you believe that the new extension architecture will prevent malicious software, I've got a bridge to sell you. And if they do, it'll be because extensions become so useless that, like desktop Safari, hardly anyone uses the extensions (or the browser).


And finally, if neutering adblock wasn't a priority, they could have made the blocking API that will exist in V3 more powerful. They could have made a full-featured system with full wildcard / regex ability and unlimited rules. They didn't, they made something purposefully mediocre.


zachol posted:

If anything I'd think it would be the reverse, Google seemed for a while to be trying to break non-google advertising and setting up their own method that sidesteps the usual tracking.

Possibly same with Apple recently: Apple's iPhone privacy changes signal desire to enter advertising

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003

Klyith posted:

There are equally obvious security arguments for why a random 3rd party ad network shouldn't be allowed to run arbitrary javascript in my browser just because they paid someone a nickel. This has historically been a huge source of drive-by malware, when sufficiently nasty browser zero-days were discovered. Plus actual hacks have happened because websites were compromised enough to insert an additional script load from evilfakecdn.com which then stole CCs or passwords. (The Newegg hack worked like this.)


Is there anything stopping an adblocker from just killing the whole tab if unwanted content is displayed/processed? If so, then there's really no negative security implications, since the unwanted code will remain unprocessed in both.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Fart Amplifier posted:

Is there anything stopping an adblocker from just killing the whole tab if unwanted content is displayed/processed? If so, then there's really no negative security implications, since the unwanted code will remain unprocessed in both.

In the new system extensions can't see themselves what the page is loading. They can only pass a list of unwanted content to the browser, and the browser is what stops it. And that list is both finite, way more static than before, and has no greylist ability. So evilfakecdn.com can't be blocked until you put it on the blocklist. Additionally the ability that uBlock has to block scripts but allow static content is gone.

So no, the security advantage of blocking scripts or other content is pretty much gone.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
Is chrome totally hosed right now? After this morning it is completely unable to remember any of my settings. I have to log into gmail every time I launch the browser. Also, the homepage functionality is completely broken. Every time I open the browser, I get the "What's New!" tab along with a blank tab and that's it, even though the Settings clearly shows "open this page at launch: https[website]".

What the gently caress is going on.

edit: All good now, no big deal. All I had to do was completely uninstall and reinstall every Chrome component on my PC for it to resume working again because the update blew up my config files. Thanks, Google. Glad the only thing I'm using Chrome for is remoting into my work PC and literally nothing else.

GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 22, 2021

zachol
Feb 13, 2009

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Every day I'm a little happier that I finally left Chrome. What wondrous delights will Google bring us next?

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014

Will Firefox soon be the only sensible option if you never want to see any ads?

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Sininu posted:

Will Firefox soon be the only sensible option if you never want to see any ads?

"Soon" as in sometime in 2023 or perhaps later, and Vivaldi is also a totally sensible option.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

zachol posted:

Every day I'm a little happier that I finally left Chrome. What wondrous delights will Google bring us next?
There's a bunch of stuff coming out from the anti-trust case that recently started:
https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/22/google_facebook_antitrust_complaint/

https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1452053938195341314

I switched to Firefox mobile recently (the decision to enforce the stupid tab grouping thing pushed me over the edge). I've just decided top try going all-in on Firefox on the desktop.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
The terrible engine and lack of multi-language spell check makes Firefox uninteresting to me. I also like pinning web apps to the taskbar, another missing feature.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Fame Douglas posted:

The terrible engine and lack of multi-language spell check makes Firefox uninteresting to me. I also like pinning web apps to the taskbar, another missing feature.

Have you not used FF for a few years? I use both regularly for work reasons and Firefox is just as snappy.

Brutakas
Oct 10, 2012

Farewell, marble-dwellers!

Pablo Bluth posted:

There's a bunch of stuff coming out from the anti-trust case that recently started:
https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/22/google_facebook_antitrust_complaint/

https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1452053938195341314

I switched to Firefox mobile recently (the decision to enforce the stupid tab grouping thing pushed me over the edge). I've just decided top try going all-in on Firefox on the desktop.



The chrome browser sign in thing is what made me stop using chrome. Anyway, I hope some real consequences come out of this.

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Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
So what's the best near-Chrome browser? ungoogled-chromium?

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