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5TonsOfFlax
Aug 31, 2001


I've got a soft spot for wearable computing devices. It's one more step towards ubiquitous computing.

Wearables come in a few forms, but I'm mostly interested in smart watch style devices. There are a surprising number on the market today, and I'm not even going to count those that aren't user-programmable.

I personally have experience with 3 smart watches. The TI eZ430-Chronos, metawatch (also by TI), and the WiMM One.

The TI and Metawatch are microcontroller based and you can program them by uploading new firmware. Development is generally done in C or assembly. The chronos has accelerometers and a weird non-wifi, non-bluetooth wireless ability. It also has battery life measured in months or years if the fancy stuff isn't used. It only has a segmented LCD display, so the UI potential is pretty restricted.

The metawatch is a little more consumer friendly, as it has bluetooth and a smartphone companion app. Development is in C or assembly, but a good deal of stuff can be done on the phone side and messages pushed to the watch to display. It's still a "developer beta", and the battery life on mine is sometimes atrocious. It often doesn't get through a full day. Other people have had more luck. The metawatch comes in both full digital monochrome and analog-with-tiny-oled-screens.

The WiMM one is definitely my favorite of the devices I've personally used. It's android based, has a full-color 160x160 multitouch touchscreen, accelerometer, bluetooth, wifi, and GPS (currently disabled in firmware). I've built a few apps for mine in the couple of weeks I've had it, including new watch faces. One of the really nice features is that when the watch goes to sleep, the screen turns monochrome and transflective. The watch wakes up just long enough to update the screen every minute. This means you don't have to press anything to use it as a watch. The watch face is just there, and up to date. Battery life is heavily dependent on how you use it, but it definitely gets through the day.

Other than those, there's also the inPulse, which looks promising. There's moto-actv too, which is another android based thing (and it's even been rooted!), but it's marketed as a fitness accessory rather than general purpose wrist-computer. And of course, the iPod nano which just happens to fit on a watch-band.

What do you think? Is there a legitimate place for this sort of device? Where do you see things like this developing in the future? What features would make you even want something like this?

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Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004









Shredded Hen

I don't really see the point with current technology, except for fitness applications. It makes sense to not want to carry a phone with you if you're running, but otherwise my phone can do all that stuff and has basically the bare minimum screen size for comfortable use. I guess it's kind of neat that a watch could display the weather or "now playing" or whatever, but the experience is much better IMO with a phone-sized UI.

Now, when voice recognition gets a bit better (Siri is pretty good, but still not really usable without a nice display) and/or we have the technology to do the display on MagicSpecs or whatever, it'd make sense to have a watch-sized computer. But until then we'd still need to interact with the thing and read the information, and so a watch-sized screen or input device isn't going to cut it.

Even in the future, though, I think I'd rather have the watch look like a normal watch. I like mechanical analogue watches.

Cabbages and Kings
Aug 25, 2004

the time has come, my little friends
to talk of other things


When such a thing can replace my cellphone and my watch, it will be mature enough for me.

WiMM competitor:
http://www.imwatch.it/us-en/

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.

Whatever happened to SixthSense?

http://www.pranavmistry.com/projects/sixthsense/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ-VjUKAsao

Imagine if this had been released open source as the creator promised. By now you would have people making rigs with dual depth-sensor cameras and pico projectors attached to a shirt or jacket while the smartphone/tablet/ultrabook running it could fit in a pocket or pouch.

I'm currently going to uni hoping to work on stuff like this in the future, specifically making computers more accessible to people through ergonomic accessories and UI's. Still a long way off on that and making do currently with a smartphone on a neck lanyard.

5TonsOfFlax
Aug 31, 2001


That sixthsense stuff looks great. I really do think something like that is the way we're headed, but it's got to be a less public visual interface. Something heads-up augmented reality rather than projectors. I mean, what if two people are looking at the same thing?
I am quite interested in sense augmentation. I actually started building a microcontroller project to add a sonar sense, but got distracted after getting the proof of concept to work.

The current wearables space is not mature, but it is fun. I think what we really need is much lower power requirements. I want solar/kinetic/thermal/nuclear powered always on stuff.

So yeah, it's not mature yet, but it can be useful. Just before xmas, I was on vacation and in a casino. There's no way I would have heard my phone notification, and I never seem to feel the vibration when it's in my pocket, but because I was wearing my metawatch, I saw that my girlfriend had IMed me and what she sent without having to dig out my phone.

Then, driving to my parents' house, my dad texted me, and I could read it right there on my wrist.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

At the end of 2018, a study was published by London Metropolitan University showing that certain bacteria, normally present only in intestinal tracts or feces, were found on McDonald's self-service screens.


Looks like you're a few years too late, man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTe0h53tH24

CHRISTS FOR SALE
Jan 14, 2005

"fuck you and die"


Seriously the greatest thread title in the history of IYG.

Casaval
Aug 25, 2003

Newtype

Not sure why this isn't posted

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...one-and-android

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.


So I've had a pre-order for an I'mwatch since August. After a major delay and a redesign from the initial prototype, they were supposed to ship in April. I'm yet to see anything and the pebble's looking a lot more attractive. Still, when I eventually get it I'll post a review.

I think the moral of the story so far is don't trust Italian startups.

b0nes
Sep 11, 2001


Achmed Jones posted:

I don't really see the point with current technology, except for fitness applications. It makes sense to not want to carry a phone with you if you're running, but otherwise my phone can do all that stuff and has basically the bare minimum screen size for comfortable use. I guess it's kind of neat that a watch could display the weather or "now playing" or whatever, but the experience is much better IMO with a phone-sized UI.

Now, when voice recognition gets a bit better (Siri is pretty good, but still not really usable without a nice display) and/or we have the technology to do the display on MagicSpecs or whatever, it'd make sense to have a watch-sized computer. But until then we'd still need to interact with the thing and read the information, and so a watch-sized screen or input device isn't going to cut it.

Even in the future, though, I think I'd rather have the watch look like a normal watch. I like mechanical analogue watches.
I always view them as phone companions rather than complete phone replacements.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

On the other hand, the Pebble is at $9,871,311 of $100,000; here's hoping people who sign on now see one in under two years.

e: they're swearing by September still, actually. Also, heads-up guys: they capped the campaign at 85,000 watches and there's only 1,154 left as of 1:10 PM EST. Here's a tracker for the remaining stock, and it goes down every time I refresh the drat page:

http://computingeureka.com/pebble/

So if you want one this year, go go go.

Splizwarf fucked around with this message at 17:10 on May 9, 2012

RZA Encryption
May 11, 2006

I will never reveal the exponential secret.


Splizwarf posted:

On the other hand, the Pebble is at $9,871,311 of $100,000; here's hoping people who sign on now see one in under two years.

e: they're swearing by September still, actually. Also, heads-up guys: they capped the campaign at 85,000 watches and there's only 1,154 left as of 1:10 PM EST. Here's a tracker for the remaining stock, and it goes down every time I refresh the drat page:

http://computingeureka.com/pebble/

So if you want one this year, go go go.

I nabbed one earlier this morning, can't wait till September!

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007


Splizwarf posted:

On the other hand, the Pebble is at $9,871,311 of $100,000; here's hoping people who sign on now see one in under two years.

e: they're swearing by September still, actually. Also, heads-up guys: they capped the campaign at 85,000 watches and there's only 1,154 left as of 1:10 PM EST. Here's a tracker for the remaining stock, and it goes down every time I refresh the drat page:

http://computingeureka.com/pebble/

So if you want one this year, go go go.

Got one at $99. Can't wait until it arrives! These guys seem to have their poo poo together. Either this will be an epic launch or an epic flop. I'm betting on a success...

Then again kickstarter is nothing more than a fancy pledge with 0 guarantee of receiving an actual product. These guys could disappear in the middle of the night or get hit by a bus and blamo, you get nothing for your pledge...

ruro
Apr 30, 2003



hotsauce posted:

Got one at $99. Can't wait until it arrives! These guys seem to have their poo poo together. Either this will be an epic launch or an epic flop. I'm betting on a success...
Considering that they have prior experience manufacturing these sorts of watches (see inpulse) and the kickstarter is literally only for production tooling, component ordering and global bluetooth certification I think the project is pretty much guaranteed success. I'm looking forward to receiving mine in September if all goes to plan!

Frank Dillinger
May 16, 2007
Jawohl mein herr!


Add me to the list of people who preordered a pebble, September can't come soon enough!

Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing what people come up with as far as apps go.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.


Just got an email from the i'mwatch people about the most recent shipping delay. It's a work of mangled English and art. Enjoy:

Dodgy Italians posted:

Dear Customer,
we appreciate the patience you've shown so far regarding the delivery of i'm Watch. We are aware that you have encountered some inconveniences and that, above all, you were not able to use a device that grows every day further interest around the world.

Unfortunately we have verified once more the validity of that saying: "The best is the enemy of the good!"
What do we mean?

We want to tell you today with great transparency and humbleness that, not only have we met all the difficulties of an extremely innovative and ambitious project (and the unforeseen events that have surpassed any logical expectation), but we have especially given into the temptation of implementing some modifications in order to increase and improve the adaptability of i'm Watch towards the future development of technology (for example, enabling it to handle a larger number of apps than initially expected). All of these factors brought us to lose precious time and, particularly, has prevented us from providing you some certain dates for the delivery.

But we are now able to define them as follows, taking into account that we intend to conduct a last serious testing program with our customers:

1) By June 15th we will provide i'm Watch to a group of 300 customers, who will cooperate with us for a final and ultimate check, to be completed by July 15th. We will ask them to give regular feedback on their experience, which will be reported in a public blog on the website https://www.imwatch.it in order to allow you to follow its evolution as well.

2) Starting July 15th we will begin to ship the product to all those who have an unsent order. We expect to fulfill the delivery for all current orders within and no later than September 15th.

Given that we understand that you might have lost interest in the purchase, we decided to offer you the following possibilities:

• Giving up the purchase and requesting an immediate refund of the paid amount, providing by July 15th an e-mail to the following address, if you are residing in Italy: assistenza.italia@imwatch.it, or to the following: assistance.world@imwatch.it if you are residing abroad.
• If instead you are willing to wait until the expected date of delivery, you will receive at the delivery a 15% discount on the price paid.

We thank you for your cooperation, very confident that i'm Watch will fully meet your expectations.
Best regards.

Manuel Zanella and Massimiliano Bertolini
President and CEO of i'm Spa

I ordered in August of last year. Now I might have it in September.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001



Coq au Nandos posted:

Just got an email from the i'mwatch people about the most recent shipping delay. It's a work of mangled English and art. Enjoy:

I ordered in August of last year. Now I might have it in September.

The possibility of an email like this is why I decided to back out of my Pebble kickstarter pledge at the last minute.

The extra $40 or so I might pay when it starts selling at retail is worth my piece of mind now that I'm not going to put $115 on the line for an indeterminate period of time with no full promise of a product.

Kirios
Jan 25, 2010



Coq au Nandos posted:

Just got an email from the i'mwatch people about the most recent shipping delay. It's a work of mangled English and art. Enjoy:


I ordered in August of last year. Now I might have it in September.

Christ I loving ordered this thing a week ago and I may not get it until September at the earliest, especially seeing that you haven't gotten it yourself and you ordered it nine months ago! It looks to be a good product but these people clearly do not have their poo poo together.

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.



The NYTimes has an article on Sony's new watch here:
http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/16/sony-puts-a-phone-display-on-your-wrist/

It doesn't sound that great, especially considering that apparently the clock even loses its time whenever it's not connected to the watch.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Oh nice, an article published yesterday about the watch Sony made two years ago. Maybe it took that long to come over from Europe?

Kirios
Jan 25, 2010



Coq au Nandos posted:

Just got an email from the i'mwatch people about the most recent shipping delay. It's a work of mangled English and art. Enjoy:


I ordered in August of last year. Now I might have it in September.

I ordered mine from amazon and mine just shipped today.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.


Kirios posted:

I ordered mine from amazon and mine just shipped today.

Let me know if it actually arrives.

Vagrancy
Oct 15, 2005
Master of procrastination

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Pjl31cyDY

Well, that's one way to keep Glass in the spotlight.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001



Vagrancy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Pjl31cyDY

Well, that's one way to keep Glass in the spotlight.

I can't help but imagine that whole thing is Google trying to run a campaign to say "See? They're not nerdy. Girls wear them!"

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.



And lord knows that the world of high fashion is extremely desirable, accessible, AND affordable to all of the rest of us.

Vagrancy
Oct 15, 2005
Master of procrastination



http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...id/posts/379469

Looks like Pebbles making its debut at CES.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001



Also, an interesting Glass update.

Vagrancy
Oct 15, 2005
Master of procrastination

Pebble livestream starts in 5 minutes: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/2432013/CES2013

repiv
Aug 13, 2009



College Slice

The livestream is a bit of a mess, Engadget have a decent 10-minute walkthrough though.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/09/...hands-on-video/

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.



BBC's news site is actually featuring an article on the Pebble on its front page under the Technology section:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20961434

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001



Google launched a site with a demo video of Glass and what looks like some screenshots.

http://www.google.com/glass/start/

kitten smoothie fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Feb 20, 2013

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived


kitten smoothie posted:

Google launched a site with a demo video of Glass and what looks like some screenshots.

http://www.google.com/glass/start/

I would love to know how it's going to be connected. Does it tether off a cell? Does it have its own LTE radio? If so then wouldn't you also need a contract with it?

I'm sold pretty hard already, but tell me more google!

ukle
Nov 28, 2005


zer0spunk posted:

I would love to know how it's going to be connected. Does it tether off a cell? Does it have its own LTE radio? If so then wouldn't you also need a contract with it?

I'm sold pretty hard already, but tell me more google!

Honestly I like technology, but this is something I have always envisaged/dreamed of and to see its going to be here so soon, really is amazing. The potential for this can not be overstated and the functionality potential it offers is staggering. In a way its similar to the mobile phone back in its early day people wouldn't of thought what you could do with them now, and this is the early days for a new form of communication. Yes its going to use existing communication technology to transmit the information but the type of information that it will transmit and receive is truly unparalleled.

Simple way to explain one affect this technology will have; Just imagine if you could look around where you sit and immediately be told about the item that was taking up the focus of your field of view. Whether it be whats on your desk, the contents on your book shelf, your food cupboards - all will give you immediate ideas beyond that you yourself are not capable of.

This technology is the future, as its potential for productivity gains is massive, never mind how fun it will be to use.

snorch
Jul 27, 2009


This whole smartwatch thing is definitely picking up speed, but it's not at the point where I'd buy one yet. The designs so far are pretty meh, the usability is getting there but not quite where I'd like to have it, but I'd almost go for a pebble.

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.



snorch posted:

This whole smartwatch thing is definitely picking up speed, but it's not at the point where I'd buy one yet. The designs so far are pretty meh, the usability is getting there but not quite where I'd like to have it, but I'd almost go for a pebble.
I'm waiting for my Pebble, but I'm being careful to temper my own expectations on how useful and practical it actually is. Like a lot of people, I just wanted to see a good project get off the ground and set a precedent for future devices. I have a feeling I will not much care for its battery life and charging system, but hopefully some people will do some good work with the SDK. I'd like to give it a shot myself, but I'm really only proficient in LabVIEW and a little Python, so I probably wouldn't be able to make any headway on any ideas I might have once I start using the thing.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001



zer0spunk posted:

I would love to know how it's going to be connected. Does it tether off a cell? Does it have its own LTE radio? If so then wouldn't you also need a contract with it?

I'm sold pretty hard already, but tell me more google!

The Verge has your answer

quote:

The device gets data through Wi-Fi on its own, or it can tether via Bluetooth to an Android device or iPhone and use its 3G or 4G data while out and about. There’s no cellular radio in Glass, but it does have a GPS chip.

Ben Grahams Ghost
Jun 27, 2002

Low P/B or Bust


Pillbug

How does Google Glass work for people who already wear glasses for vision correction? I'm guessing you could just stuff some prescription lenses in the GG frame, if it didn't screw up their display system. I'd be less lazy and stuff my contacts in, but that's not an option for a lot of people.

Lots of potential though. Ultimately I want a Google Mask that provides a full HUD, so every mundane moment in my life can feel like a video game. Status readouts for everything!

Mr Newsman
Nov 8, 2006
Did somebody say news?

Spasticthinker posted:

How does Google Glass work for people who already wear glasses for vision correction? I'm guessing you could just stuff some prescription lenses in the GG frame, if it didn't screw up their display system. I'd be less lazy and stuff my contacts in, but that's not an option for a lot of people.

Lots of potential though. Ultimately I want a Google Mask that provides a full HUD, so every mundane moment in my life can feel like a video game. Status readoutsupdates for everythingeveryone on facebook!

Excited for when these things aren't like 1000 bucks.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

The Islamic Orb Illuminati.

Call me a curmodgeon, while google glasses is cool and all but I really dont look forward to having am HUD for my actual life and things that I see.

Imagine, you're watching a beautiful sunset and soaking it in and getting lost in time, then suddenly "HEY CHECK IT OUT IT'S 6:49 PM LOOKEE THERE THAT'S A COOL SUNSET WANNA LIVESTREAM/TWEET IT? dont forget your doctors appointment tommorow! also mom tried calling you by skype!"

*looks at iphone hypocritically to check the time and twitter*

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Ben Grahams Ghost
Jun 27, 2002

Low P/B or Bust


Pillbug

Al-Saqr posted:

Call me a curmodgeon, while google glasses is cool and all but I really dont look forward to having am HUD for my actual life and things that I see.

Imagine, you're watching a beautiful sunset and soaking it in and getting lost in time, then suddenly "HEY CHECK IT OUT IT'S 6:49 PM LOOKEE THERE THAT'S A COOL SUNSET WANNA LIVESTREAM/TWEET IT? dont forget your doctors appointment tommorow! also mom tried calling you by skype!"

*looks at iphone hypocritically to check the time and twitter*

No, the really scary part is that scenario with ads. They gotta monetize it somehow, right? Real life can now have those annoying pop up ads like TV shows do. You're watching the sunset, and 1/4 of your view is suddenly an ad for sunscreen, or a picture of a sunset in some vacation spot and how much better it is than the one you're seeing.


Mr Newsman posted:

status udpates...everyone...facebook.

I guess this is just as scary as the above scenario.

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