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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




I like the idea of that new colour screen Pebble but I don't know if I can be seen in public with that fuckass ugly turbonerd thing on my wrist

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Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


absolutely insane to have named one of them "Core 2 Duo". what in the world

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe

Tatsuta Age posted:

absolutely insane to have named one of them "Core 2 Duo". what in the world

Yeah this is hilarious.

30 day battery on the B&W both, apparently!

Rexxed
May 1, 2010


I don't love the original pebble style, I'm hoping they'll do a pebble time or time steel style normal rounded square case eventually. I was using my pebble time until November. It still works fine.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight
I guess this goes in here?

My work has been particularly lovely lately and I decided that I need to make some overall diet changes so when I saw the Abbott Lingo was FSA eligible and I had already put too much into my account I decided gently caress it, try it for $50...

For all the talk of glucose monitoring being the next big thing in wearables, the only thing it seems to have told me is that I am not diabetic?

Plus sides, I mean, it should be expected from an injectable medical device but the overall install experience and setup was pretty great? For something with a giant needle, putting it on was basically painless and I completely forget that I am even wearing the sensor unless I happen to brush it with my hand or see it in the mirror.

Anyone getting anything actionable out of one of these?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010


Three Olives posted:

I guess this goes in here?

My work has been particularly lovely lately and I decided that I need to make some overall diet changes so when I saw the Abbott Lingo was FSA eligible and I had already put too much into my account I decided gently caress it, try it for $50...

For all the talk of glucose monitoring being the next big thing in wearables, the only thing it seems to have told me is that I am not diabetic?

Plus sides, I mean, it should be expected from an injectable medical device but the overall install experience and setup was pretty great? For something with a giant needle, putting it on was basically painless and I completely forget that I am even wearing the sensor unless I happen to brush it with my hand or see it in the mirror.

Anyone getting anything actionable out of one of these?

Becky Stern did a teardown/look inside video about these constant glucose monitors recently, although she didn't look at the LIngo but the Freestyle Libre and also a Dexcom model. She's into wearable tech so she'll look at products like rings that do health tracking and show electronics projects for wearable stuff now and then, as well as just general electronics projects.

What I got out of the video is that they can be beneficial for folks who aren't diabetic if they want to learn how their body reacts to food with regard to glucose levels. This can be helpful if you're trying to work on a diet or see what kind of carbs your body reacts differently to. Her friend David also put one on and she talks about the differences with the insertion method and also how the needle mostly goes just below the skin to access the subcutaneous fluid instead of blood. There's a slower reaction to seeing glucose in that fluid than the bloodstream but it does show up.

They're supposedly going OTC soon (or already are) so anyone can pick one up, they do seem to be about $50 and it's a one time use 10 or 14 day battery. She pointed out that if you're not diabetic you don't need to monitor your glucose all of the time so it may be a helpful guide if you want to check on it now and then, but you won't need to use one constantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZTcJdSd2Rk

edit: oh and yeah she doesn't talk in detail about how to use one to help with your diet, the video focus is more on the electronics and trying to see how it's made.

Rexxed fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Mar 19, 2025

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

I'd listen to this before considering glucose monitoring in the absence of metabolic disease

https://m.soundcloud.com/user-344313169/episode-221-continuous-glucose-monitors

With this update from Jan 2025:

quote:

Continuous glucose monitors (CGM) are electronic devices that measure the concentration of blood sugar, or blood glucose, and provide the value to its wearer.

Although continuous glucose monitors were initially designed to assist in the clinical management of both insulin-dependent and noninsulin-dependent diabetes, there is now interest in the application of real-time glucose monitoring in the biohacking and athletic communities.

Here marks the first study I’ve read in 2025.

A new paper published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition looked at how reliable continuous glucose monitors were in individuals without diabetes.

Briefly, this data was obtained while subjects were admitted to a research facility. All of their meals were prepared for them and while they were instructed to eat as much (or as little) as they wanted, the researchers measured how much food was eaten at each meal.

For this particular study, there were over 1000 direct comparisons in blood sugar measurement after a meal where the Calorie difference and pre-meal blood sugars were very similar.

The variation in blood sugar readings from duplicate meals was about the same as the difference in blood sugar readings between different meals! The authors said of this:

quote:

Surprisingly, our study found that the reliability of postprandial CGM responses to many duplicate multicomponent meals was poor and that the within-subject variability to duplicate meals was roughly as large as the variability across different meals.
We talked about this concern in our podcast on continuous blood glucose monitoring. The current crop of monitors are not very reliable for individuals without diabetes, where normal blood sugar changes are smaller than hyperglycemia sometimes seen in individuals with diabetes.

Reliability issues aside, there’s little evidence suggesting that health improves when people make lifestyle changes based on continuous glucose monitoring data. For now, I don’t think there is a legitimate use case for CGM in individuals without diabetes or metabolic syndrome.

Also a non-zero risk of developing disordered eating depending on how you use one.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

CLAM DOWN posted:

I like the idea of that new colour screen Pebble but I don't know if I can be seen in public with that fuckass ugly turbonerd thing on my wrist

I know people loved the Pebble, but why? Long battery life? Amazing apps?

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight

webcams for christ posted:

I'd listen to this before considering glucose monitoring in the absence of metabolic disease

https://m.soundcloud.com/user-344313169/episode-221-continuous-glucose-monitors

With this update from Jan 2025:

Also a non-zero risk of developing disordered eating depending on how you use one.

This pretty much checks out, it just tells me that my blood sugar holds steady in the healthy range, I can see spikes when I eat something but stays well within the health range.

I guess with all the talk about how all the wearable makers have been trying to get glucose readings, it's been an Apple Watch rumor for years that it would tell me something besides my blood sugar spikes a little bit when I eat something, which really doesn't tell me anything helpful.

Oh well, it was $50 that I was probably going to have to use on useless poo poo at the end of the year like I did last year.

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe

nonathlon posted:

I know people loved the Pebble, but why? Long battery life? Amazing apps?

I posted this in the WearOS thread - My key feature of the old pebbles was that you could put it on the media control screen (had next/previous, volume, media info etc), and it would just... stay there until you backed out of it. With the physical buttons, this meant easy track and volume control without even looking at the watch. It also still had a tiny clock at the top of that screen.

As someone else mentioned in that thread, you could also assign shortcuts to two of the buttons on the right. I think a watch display is getting to be too small to rely on a touch interface for most interactions (based on my experience with a Galaxy Watch Active2 - others might be better at it).

The longer battery life compared to its contemporaries was also great, and at the time not many other smart watches had an "always on" display. With ~30 day battery on the new ones this is even better of course.

I'm sure the WatchOS and WearOS app ecosystems are better at this point but there were plenty of useful apps available on PebbleOS. The pricepoint was also a bit better than early Apple/Samsung/WearOS watches.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Garmin adding a paid subscription: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2025/03/garmin-connect-plus-subscription-walkthrough.html

quote:

Active Intelligence, powered by AI: Receive personalized insights and suggestions throughout the day based on health and activity data, powered by AI. As customers use Garmin Connect+ more, the insights will become more tailored to them and their goals. The AI providing these insights and suggestions was built to help keep users’ data secure and is currently releasing in beta powered by AI.

Performance Dashboard: Compare fitness and health data in customizable graphs and charts over different periods of time to get a more comprehensive view of training progress.

Live Activity: Start an indoor workout activity on a smartwatch and use a compatible smartphone to see real-time heart rate and pace data, workout videos, reps and more in the Garmin Connect app.

Training Guidance: While following a Garmin Run Coach or Garmin Cycling Coach training plan on a compatible smartwatch or cycling computer, receive additional exclusive expert guidance from Garmin coaches – including educational content and videos – for peak performance.

Expanded LiveTrack Features: Whether training or racing, user-selected family and friends can be notified via text when an activity is started. Users can also create a personalized LiveTrack profile page to share with their followers.

Social Features: Add unique frames to your Garmin Connect app profile and access exclusive badge challenges – like a Running Climbs challenge to record 500 meters of total ascent during a month of running activities, or a Power Cycling challenge to record at least four hours of cycling activities in power zone 3 during a month.”

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



My mother-in-law uses a CGM and the main thing you'll notice is that her phone is constantly, constantly beeping. It beeps to yell at her whenever she goes out of range and it loses signal, it beeps when she goes low, it beeps when she goes high... and she's actually extremely good at managing her diabetes, but the loving thing goes off every 30 minutes mostly because she went too far away and it freaked out.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017
The latest withings product name clearly shows someone likes anime in their marketing offices.

https://www.withings.com/eu/en/beam-o

Shame the display doesn't show a "Cast in the name of god, ye not guilty" message at boot.

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

not a wearable

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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007





what if i tape it here

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