Shorter Than Some posted:

Android fanboys are terrible I agree, what's that got to do with whether you should or should not recommend an Android device which is how this whole issue got started.

Shorter Than Some posted:

If people are advising people that cheap lovely tablet will be an amazing iPad alternative because once rooted and pimped out, yeah that's bad advice. I haven't seen anyone say that in this thread, all I have seen people say is that, for example the nook colour is good for the price.

Edit: also it wasn't anybody who recommended an android tablet which brought up tinkering.

Gyshall posted:

How is the Nook Color as a rooted tablet? I'm most interested in reading comics/Kindle books, as well as playing some games and so on. I looked at the Kindle Fire but I wasn't happy with the size of the screen.

Crackbone posted:

For what it's worth, apparently the Nook Tablet bootloader got cracked, so CM looks to be a real possibility. Not that I'd recommend it RIGHT now if you need a 7" tablet. But of course, there's at least 2 $249 7" tablets due soon with Tegra 3 hardware (and no need for custom roms), so waiting seems like the best option.

Mantle posted:

If you just want a cheap 10" reader, I picked up a Le Pan TC 970 for $170 on sale at amazon.ca. Its specs are similar to the Nook Color and it's a 2.2 tablet as well. However its screen is an IPS panel with the same part number as the iPad 1 screen.

CM7/9 is being actively ported to it and some people have figured out how to sign ROMs for the device so hopefully it's just a matter of time now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399693

Here's some more detailed information about the tablet.
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/amazon-ca-le-pan-tc-970-9-7-inch-android-tablet-200-a-1087251/

Syrinxx posted:

32GB 9.7" HP Touchpad is $219 today on Woot. There's an early build of CM7 for this tablet I think so it's a pretty great deal.

letsgoflyers81 posted:

CM9 alpha is out too. But for that price it might be a better idea to get a first gen HC tablet wit dev support.

Shorter Than Some posted:

I would also add that if someone is considering the Nook colour or whatever instead of an iPad or latest greatest android tablet V7, they probably aren't earning 50 dollars an hour, which is why spending 30 minutes or even four hours working on making it fully functional when it costs much less is a good deal for them even when you factor in "how valuable is your time argument".

Uthor posted:

That doesn't take into account if you enjoy loving around with your toys. When I spent four hours rooting, installing custom ROMs, and tweaking my phone, I did it because it was fun.

Then again, I'd just recommend getting a different phone to someone that hates (or doesn't know how to) doing that stuff. Getting something that works right out of the box instead.

Craptacular! posted:

Root is not necessary to make the machine simply start up and do tasks. This is like applying jailbreak time to the iPad because I simply MUST have my Playstation emulator and folders within folders.

My time is worth nothing, I suppose (I am unemployed and have plenty of time for stuff like World of Warcraft as a result); but I only do root/etc as a hobby and not for basic functionality.

Shorter Than Some posted:

Kynetx posted:

Jesus christ, we need another thread for you idiots to have your iPad vs. Android dick measuring contest. Can we please, please, please have a thread about Android tablets without the YOSPOS trolling?

Mods? Anyone there?

Codiusprime posted:

They're just making sure that any misguided soul that wanders into the Android Tablet Megathread knows that all Android tablets are hacked together turds and to just buy an iPad instead. It's a public service they're doing.

Eugene Jerome posted:

So the Apple trolls are in denial because:

-iOS doesn't support Flash
-iOS doesn't really support expansion or customization

And they're trying to make it seem like Android is *wrong* because their iOS products are better and don't need Flash, or expansion, or customization.

Cult-like traits. Making sense of things that don't make sense.

nmfree posted:

All I want is to use a Bluetooth headset Skype, is that too much to ask for?

Gorilla Salsa posted:

I have to agree that I wouldn't care about paying twice for an app that was properly formatted. But decent scaling makes it so that an app that was developed in some teenager's basement while high doesn't look like total loving garbage until the end of time.

Rastor posted:

And if you're happy with an OS that only supports 2 resolutions and 2 more hiDPI versions of those resolutions then I'm happy you're happy. Maybe you could go discuss how happy you are in the appropriate thread?

This is the Android tablet thread. Android isn't limited to only 2 (+2) resolutions; it scales from tiny 2" QVGA screens all the way to giant Television displays.

serewit posted:

Went ahead and picked up a refurbished keyboard dock for the T-Prime off Amazon and drat this thing is nice. It's pretty much a netbook at this point.

Although now I'm noticing some weird spots under the screen that look like they may be dead pixels...

Crackbone posted:

I know it's crazy, but maybe if you're paying $500 for a device it might be better to wait for something without so many lovely defects? Even if you're an Android fan surely waiting for the slew of Teg3 tablets coming down the pipe (and making sure they're vetted before you buy) might be a more logical path?

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

defective by design.

Crackbone posted:

I though most of the Tegra 2 big name brands (including the original TF) were better built than the Prime. Regardless of weight/thickness/etc, they all seemed to be much out-of-the-box defective than the Prime.

Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:

I should also report that those same people should return something they paid good money for and hold the company accountable instead of hacking it with cardboard inserts.

Don Lapre posted:

They removed GPS off the spec sheet, they all have the same problems

This is a possible fix though

Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:

It was listed as a feature. Now instead of people getting angry at the company and demanding satisfaction, they are taking it up the poopshoot and trying to fix it by themselves, most likely voiding the warranty, and the company gets away with it.

Try that with another company like Apple - they would be bending over backwards right now with press conferences and free poo poo to at least calm people down.

But no, keep buying their products at full price and sitting on them, and stop asking us to speak poorly of them when this is a discussion forum based on what tablets are worth buying for people who potentially come in here for advice.

Kynetx posted:

This brings up an interesting point. Why can't the press and casual gadget fans understand the difference between a capacitive stylus, a resistive screen with a stylus and a proper Wacom digitizer?
On one hand, I think they do, but acknowledging the difference means they have to be able to articulate something other than LOL SAMSUNG NOTE=PALM PILOT.
I keep seeing blog posts that can't differentiate between the different technologies.

Splizwarf posted:

Not sure what you're trying to get at here, my Win7 netbook (an HP Mini 10 from last year) shits the bed on my textbooks while my Nook Tablet is a peppy champ. So, that's a comparison. Since I don't want an iPad, it's pretty personally relevant; I wish I had a tablet with Bluetooth (for a keyboard) so I could stop taking the netbook to class. On the other hand, it's nice to have my textbook on another screen so I don't need to flip back and forth (and without having to keep a fat pdf open, the netbook is fine for notes).

dissss posted:

Just because X is a worse experience than Y doesn't mean X is necessarily a bad experience

Splizwarf posted:

It does, and would probably meet my needs, but I'm not interested in learning to wrangle OSX/iOS. I like my iPod, but only when it's not plugged into a computer.

As an example, my wife got a new iPod recently and gave me her old one (a square Nano, nice for exercise). I use MediaMonkey because I don't like the PC version of iTunes and MM works fine with my existing iPod (it's one of the tall ones). Only it turns out that hers is Mac-formatted and can only be read by a PC after being formatted and initialized by a PC copy of iTunes. It's unreadable when plugged into my computer otherwise (even though my computer thinks it's done a good job formatting it). Annoying, and that project's on hold til whenever. If I was single and had bought it off Craigslist or eBay, I'd be crazy pissed because I'd have no idea what the gently caress; it behaves like it's broken.

Mac stuff is complicated and counter-intuitive at times; it's probably great in some ways but I'm busy and have a decent understanding of Windows and Android. I flat-out don't have time for another OS (been too busy to even change my oil and plug the hole in my tire lately which is embarrassing). If they had made an iPhone with a decent-sized screen a couple years ago, I wouldn't know jack about Android. vv

Splizwarf posted:

I tried to treat this reasonably but it's basically a (maybe unintentional) troll, since it's in response to me saying I have a tablet that I can take notes on and read textbooks, which lacks only Bluetooth to be perfect.

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Dude, seriously; I already own an Android tablet that I like, and you clearly don't and don't intend to, so what's your stake in this thread? Why are you here?

Splizwarf posted:

My Linux Rig, I tried to be clear about why I thought your post was a bit of a troll, I said "I have an Android tablet that almost meets my needs, the only thing missing is Bluetooth" and your answer is "Get an iPad"; can you see where that might taken badly?

Vagrancy posted:

Another 10' Samsung tabl...woah, is that a pen?

Splizwarf posted:

Yeah, that poo poo killed the Game Boy.

Butt Soup Barnes posted:

I don't think it's scary. People like taking notes on tablets/large-screened phones. The best way to do that is with a stylus, by far.

Look at how many people buy styli for their tablets to take notes on - it's definitely not just people in the design field that would use a stylus.

Splizwarf posted:

Windows Mobile had a few other issues.

You also may have worse sausage fingers than I do, and AI goons will confirm that coming from me that really means something.

Endless Mike posted:

Resistive screens work fine with a finger.

Vykk.Draygo posted:

They aren't nearly as good as Capacitive obviously, but I never used the stylus with my Touch Pro or Touch Pro2. They were resistive, but they were sensitive enough that you could use your finger on them.

Super Aggro Crag posted:

So I just traded my laptop to my parents for my old gaming rig so I can play Diablo 3. Now I need something I can take to my friends' houses and chill on my bed with. The Samsung Galaxy 7.0 Plus is in my price range and looks pretty. Is it worth the money?

sethsez posted:

Why? A one word answer is useless.

evilweasel posted:

That it's likely to prompt price cuts on android tablets that need to compete on price now, at a minimum.

Rastor posted:

The difference being, ICS is not a slow horrible buggy mess.

My advice is, do not purchase any Android device, of any kind, unless it ships with Android 4.0 or later, or a 4.0 update is officially available. Not announced, actually available.

Currently non-Nexus Samsung devices fail that test.

Glimm posted:

Care to elaborate?

McLarenF1 posted:

When it comes to buying this poo poo, just get the one you think it most future proof and buy it; and accept that it will be old hat in 6-12 months at best. In my case, I've got a Tegra 3 device with ICS, that should hold me over for quite sometime.

Kynetx posted:

JB may be released at some point in the summer, but you won't see it on non-Nexus hardwre until Fall or Winter.

What is it about ICS that compels you to recommend people avoid an entire hardware cycle?

Kynetx posted:

Someone bought me a swanky new avatar! You guys are the best. =)

hotsauce posted:

So people nowadays actually pull out gadgets at parties and talk about ROMs and stuff?

Man I'm getting old I guess.

Super Aggro Crag posted:

Thanks for the advice. I'll wait until the iPad 3 comes out and see if the 7.0 Plus drops in price at all. Do you know if its supposed to ever get ICS? I have a gaming PC, so I'll just be using the tablet at my friends' houses or when laying on my bed so I don't really want to spend over $400.

Frozen-Solid posted:

My new tablet should be here today. Here's what the busted one looks like right now:







Anyone dealt with Squaretrade before? What are the odds of them actually fixing this?

Rastor posted:

As of ICS Android has a device backup feature similar to what iTunes can do for iOS devices (includes apps and app data, etc.). Google for "adb backup" for more info.

Frozen-Solid posted:

Talking to Squaretrade they were all "well we repair it if possible" and didn't even want to discuss the cash-back option until they saw it. I'm just trying to figure out what to expect.

Tatsujin posted:

I updated my wife's TF to ICS, now it's incredibly slow and the market thinks half the apps aren't installed when they are