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Yond Cassius
May 22, 2010



bartolimu posted:

Swap out the ketchup for TabascoCrystal and you're probably in the Deep South.

Tabasco's a vinegar sauce; you want Crystal for actual peppers.
( Seriously the loyalty is strong there and many restaurants will have both in an effort to keep more customers happy. )

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I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

I fear the man who has hit one dinger ten thousand times.




Doom Rooster posted:

I would go check it out, but that would require me to go back and give money to Chuyís.

You say this like it would be a problem.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.


Errant Gin Monks posted:

Chuys and Tacodeli are dog poo poo. Iím from San Antonio. Fight me.
I've never been but the menu makes it look like an Applebee's with a touristy sombrero.

Like literally. According to the copycat recipe places, that creamy jalapeŮo sauce is apparently a slightly more boring version of something Applebee's makes, a quote Mexi-Ranch unquote (which is basically mayo and sour cream plus pico instead of just plus jalapeŮos).

And I mean if you're muy blanquito que fuckin Applebee's, man I don't even fuckin know.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

This is fine.


They're good salsas Brant

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?



Lipstick Apathy

prayer group posted:

The Burger Show makes me so drat mad. George Motz, the "burger scholar" guy who's in like every third episode, is way more knowledgeable, engaging, and interesting than Alvin Cailan, the actual host.

I always feel gross watching Alvin chow down, despite being fat myself.

Whalley
Mar 5, 2004

Drinking shows a real commitment to becoming a cooler person!


prayer group posted:

The Burger Show makes me so drat mad. George Motz, the "burger scholar" guy who's in like every third episode, is way more knowledgeable, engaging, and interesting than Alvin Cailan, the actual host.
Everyone's more knowledgable, engaging, and interesting than Alvin. He acts like a tenth grader doing an assignment where he has to pretend to be a reporter, rather than someone committed to the job.

e: That was a little harsh - he's not terrible, and he tends to treat everyone like a friend, but I'm not watching the burger show for Hanging Out With Friends. I'm watching it for burgers.

Whalley fucked around with this message at Jun 19, 2019 around 12:40

iospace
Apr 20, 2020




Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/Cut4/status/1140759143478910978

Totally Reasonable
Jan 8, 2008

aaag mirrors



By far the weirdest part of this is seeing people at a minor league game.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002



Yond Cassius posted:

Tabasco's a vinegar sauce; you want Crystal for actual peppers.
( Seriously the loyalty is strong there and many restaurants will have both in an effort to keep more customers happy. )

See? This is why I need to do my trip and write my book. There's stuff like this for every region and subregion I don't know about. America needs to know!

Whalley posted:

Everyone's more knowledgable, engaging, and interesting than Alvin. He acts like a tenth grader doing an assignment where he has to pretend to be a reporter, rather than someone committed to the job.

e: That was a little harsh - he's not terrible, and he tends to treat everyone like a friend, but I'm not watching the burger show for Hanging Out With Friends. I'm watching it for burgers.

I put it down to YouTube Personality Syndrome. There's a whole Digital Age behavioral suite that a lot of "content creators" stick to as a proven, marketable type. Alvin's not good at some of it (e.g., the sing-songy voice, or staring vacantly wide-eyed into the camera), but he's good at other parts (being a friendly dude; sounding like he's reading narration someone wrote for him, because he is and that's intentionally part of the aesthetic).

Also, First We Feast intentionally picks non-experts to host their shows. Their largely bad (and maybe cancelled?) Curry Show could have been really cool, but they picked a host who didn't like spicy food. She was fine personality-wise (had a lot of the same YT Personality Syndrome stuff Alvin shows), but didn't contribute much besides occasionally looking uncomfortable while eating a thing I desperately wanted to taste. I think FWF expected a newbie to resonate with fans who didn't know a lot about the thing being talked about, but in this case it meant she couldn't guide the discussion to get interesting content out of a bowl of brown goo.

What makes Hot Ones a good interview show is the painstaking research everyone does to make sure they get some good responses from their interviewee. Burger Show (and Curry Show) avoids researching so the host can find out at the same time as the viewer, and it's just plain less engaging. At least that's how I feel after growing up with David Attenborough and George Page knowing a ton of poo poo about horseshoe crabs before running down to the beach to film them. Maybe that's a generational difference.

Would still grab a burg or three with Alvin, though.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008


Pillbug

Errant Gin Monks posted:

Chuys and Tacodeli are dog poo poo. Iím from San Antonio. Fight me.

I am from Austin, and I will not fight you. I will only say that Tacodeli has one really good taco, and 1 REALLY good salsa, otherwise I agree.

I. M. Gei posted:

You say this like it would be a problem.

It would be a problem. It's awful. It's probably a case of me hating it more because it's mediocre, but people rave about it so I feel even more strongly the other direction.

It's super bland and boring, even by TexMex standards. It's basically the TexMex version of Bennigan's. If it were the only restaurant on a 200 mile stretch of highway while I was on a roadtrip, I would probably stop and eat there, but given where they are located, there are always a million better options within 1/4 mile.

Suspect Bucket
Jan 14, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR


Totally Reasonable posted:

By far the weirdest part of this is seeing people at a minor league game.

Minor league baseball rules. It's a good place to hang out and drink mayo with friends.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

I would never shop at Costco. The paper towels won't fit into my sports car!

Errant Gin Monks posted:

Chuys and Tacodeli are dog poo poo. I’m from San Antonio. Fight me.

Gotta agree with this. Like, I'd rather go get tacos at Bill Miller's and they're a fast food BBQ place.

Crusty Nutsack
Apr 21, 2005



bartolimu posted:

Regional food specializations are fascinating. It's easily accessible food anthropology, and there aren't nearly enough books being written about it. That goes further than just the foods being eaten - you can figure out where you are in the US by checking out the local diner's condiments. Southwest? You'll find Tapatio and/or Cholula. Midwest? Ketchup, maybe yellow mustard, and salt with rice in it to keep it from sticking together in the humidity. Swap out the ketchup for Tabasco and you're probably in the Deep South. Some day I'm going to do a road trip through the whole US and catalog diner condiments, then write a book about it because we should be the change we want to see in the world.

Along with the best drat interview show around, First We Feast on YouTube has a show about burgers that looks at super-regional variations pretty frequently. It's a neat look at edible Americana and I mostly enjoy it, despite it being slightly over-produced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdvZC91YpMs

George Motz and his porkchops are national treasures. He had a Hamburger America show for a while if you haven't seen it, where he goes to all the places he mentioned in this clip.

If you're into diners you should follow Doug Mack on twitter (though he tweets a lottttt, it's mostly interesting food-related stuff). Every Monday night(ish) he posts a diner content roundup from the week.
https://twitter.com/douglasmack/sta...272769110659072

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

This is fine.


Doom Rooster posted:

but given where they are located, there are always a million better options within 1/4 mile.

I'm from Texas, and the best Tex Mex in Tallahassee is Chuy's

It serves a specific niche that doesn't overlap with La Tiendita or El Cocinero.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008


Pillbug

BrianBoitano posted:

I'm from Texas, and the best Tex Mex in Tallahassee is Chuy's

It serves a specific niche that doesn't overlap with La Tiendita or El Cocinero.

Sorry, there may not be better TexMex options within 1/4 mile, so if you are suffering from an undeniable craving for Tex Mex, I can understand. I would just rather go eat at a good restaurant with a different type of food, than eat at Chuy's.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

I fear the man who has hit one dinger ten thousand times.




Doom Rooster posted:

It would be a problem. It's awful. It's probably a case of me hating it more because it's mediocre, but people rave about it so I feel even more strongly the other direction.

It's super bland and boring, even by TexMex standards. It's basically the TexMex version of Bennigan's. If it were the only restaurant on a 200 mile stretch of highway while I was on a roadtrip, I would probably stop and eat there, but given where they are located, there are always a million better options within 1/4 mile.

Where is there better TexMex food in Austin? Austin is like an inexplicable TexMex desert. If you know good places to get TexMex in Austin besides Chuyís, you best get to talkiní.

Whalley
Mar 5, 2004

Drinking shows a real commitment to becoming a cooler person!


bartolimu posted:

Burger Show (and Curry Show) avoids researching so the host can find out at the same time as the viewer, and it's just plain less engaging. At least that's how I feel after growing up with David Attenborough and George Page knowing a ton of poo poo about horseshoe crabs before running down to the beach to film them. Maybe that's a generational difference.

Would still grab a burg or three with Alvin, though.

You, you're good people. I agree 100%

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008


Pillbug

I. M. Gei posted:

Where is there better TexMex food in Austin? Austin is like an inexplicable TexMex desert. If you know good places to get TexMex in Austin besides Chuyís, you best get to talkiní.

TexMex desert? Whhhhaaaatttt? It's certainly not San Antonio, but there's a ton of good TexMex here.

Off the top of my head: Trudy's, Papasitos(I want to dislike it because it's part of a big chain, but everything I have had there was good, and drat are their beef enchiladas the fuckin' best.), Rio Grande, Ramos, Vazquez #1,2,3 (TexMexMex), La Casita, La Cocina de Consuelo, Tamale House, Joe's Bakery, Habanero's(one of the absolute best, but has weird hours and cash only). hell, I wouldn't really recommend Matt's El Rancho, but it's better than Chuy's. There are probably dozens of others that surpass the bar of "better than Chuy's".

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Ben Nevis
Jan 20, 2011


I. M. Gei posted:

Where is there better TexMex food in Austin? Austin is like an inexplicable TexMex desert. If you know good places to get TexMex in Austin besides Chuyís, you best get to talkiní.

Man, Chuy's is bad. I lived in Austin for a decade and it's trivially easy to find better places. If you're taking the Brian Boitano approach that something closer to authentic Mexican is insufficiently TexMex then I'd like to know where you draw the line.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

Which way to the sandwich bar
...ladies?


...the subforum name swap is never going to stop tripping me up.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

I fear the man who has hit one dinger ten thousand times.




Doom Rooster posted:

TexMex desert? Whhhhaaaatttt? It's certainly not San Antonio, but there's a ton of good TexMex here.

Off the top of my head: Trudy's, Papasitos, Rio Grande, Ramos, Vazquez #1,2,3 (TexMexMex), La Casita, La Cocina de Consuelo, Tamale House, Joe's Bakery, Habanero's(one of the absolute best, but has weird hours). hell, I wouldn't really recommend Matt's El Rancho, but it's better than Chuy's. There are probably dozens of others that surpass the bar of "better than Chuy's".

You might be the first goon to tell me that Austin has lots of good TexMex options. Most of the posts Iíve seen on the subject say the exact opposite, and I havenít personally been around enough to know any different.

Except for Trudyís. Iíve been to Trudyís a couple of times and youíre right, they are good.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008


Pillbug

I. M. Gei posted:

You might be the first goon to tell me that Austin has lots of good TexMex options. Most of the posts Iíve seen on the subject say the exact opposite, and I havenít personally been around enough to know any different.

Except Trudyís. Iíve been to Trudyís a couple of times and youíre right, they are good.

That's mostly San Antonio folks talking poo poo. San Antonio is an absolute A+ city for TexMex, no doubt, but Austin is easily a B+ or A-.

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

I'm rude now.


Totally Reasonable posted:

By far the weirdest part of this is seeing people at a minor league game.

Not MLB baseball owns. Tickets are like $7 and the local guys here do all you can eat and drink deals for like $15. And the players gently caress up a lot more so the game is actually fun instead of for stats nerds.

The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001



Minor league baseball games are insanely cool and good.

That Works
Jul 21, 2006


Fun Shoe

Go to El Arroyo or something geez.

Chuys was meh when I lived in Austin.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch


Doom Rooster posted:

That's mostly San Antonio folks talking poo poo. San Antonio is an absolute A+ city for TexMex, no doubt, but Austin is easily a B+ or A-.

Also you fuckers didnít invent breakfast tacos. Pinche pendejo Austinites

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008


Pillbug

Errant Gin Monks posted:

Also you fuckers didnít invent breakfast tacos. Pinche pendejo Austinites

Invented? Probably not. Have great ones and are known for them? Absolutely.

I havenít done enough research on San Antonio breakfast tacos to say whether Austinís are better or not. I should really remedy that...

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

I would never shop at Costco. The paper towels won't fit into my sports car!

I gotta chime in for San Antonio on this one.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008


Pillbug

Any recommendations next time I head down? Gotta have good salsa too. So many places have great tacos, but are let down by bland salsa, or have great salsa but inconsistent on the taco itself.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.


Doom Rooster posted:

Invented? Probably not.
More like lol no.

The claim that Austin invented the breakfast taco is based on the first recorded use of that term. But there's ample evidence that the thing itself existed for over a century before it was called a breakfast taco. For most of that time it was just called taco---an egg and chorizo taco was just an egg and chorizo taco and not a breakfast taco, same as a bean and cheese taco isn't a `lunch taco' or whatever---and in fact there are sources that mention them before the word taco had even entered the English lexicon (they'd be called such-and-such on a flour tortilla or whatever).

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008


Pillbug

SubG posted:

More like lol no.

The claim that Austin invented the breakfast taco is based on the first recorded use of that term. But there's ample evidence that the thing itself existed for over a century before it was called a breakfast taco. For most of that time it was just called taco---an egg and chorizo taco was just an egg and chorizo taco and not a breakfast taco, same as a bean and cheese taco isn't a `lunch taco' or whatever---and in fact there are sources that mention them before the word taco had even entered the English lexicon (they'd be called such-and-such on a flour tortilla or whatever).

Cool cool cool cool cool

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

I fear the man who has hit one dinger ten thousand times.




That Works posted:

Go to El Arroyo or something geez.

El Arroyoís sign game is on point and I need to eat there sometime.

ogarza
Feb 25, 2009


SubG posted:

More like lol no.

The claim that Austin invented the breakfast taco is based on the first recorded use of that term. But there's ample evidence that the thing itself existed for over a century before it was called a breakfast taco. For most of that time it was just called taco---an egg and chorizo taco was just an egg and chorizo taco and not a breakfast taco, same as a bean and cheese taco isn't a `lunch taco' or whatever---and in fact there are sources that mention them before the word taco had even entered the English lexicon (they'd be called such-and-such on a flour tortilla or whatever).

mexico says hi, breakfast tacos have existed for thousands of years

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Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

Come play my CYOA!

Save your reality from the Constructors... then save all the rest of them.


ogarza posted:

mexico says hi, breakfast tacos have existed for thousands of years

Bullshit! How could flatbread and eggs have existed in conjunction with one another ever before in history? The modern era brought these two miracles of mass-production together, at last!

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