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Cyrano4747
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Gtab posted:

Aim high little guy ^____^

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but un-modified m91s (either sporterized or converted to the m91/30 standard by the USSR) are actually pretty hard to find, especially if you're not willing to "settle" for one that went through Finnish service.

Once you get away from the Soviet era stuff there are a lot of Mosin types out there that are really loving rare.

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I didn't think so, but the "aim high" and the little smiley thing (what the hell emotion is expressed by ^_____^ anyways? the up-arrow eyes tell me it's supposed to be happy, but the flat line mouth tells me it's grimacing or perturbed) had me wondering if you were being sarcastic or something.

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Steak Flavored Gum posted:

Nobody mentions them because they're stupid and incredibly expensive for being more or less a blowback gun that fires a hard to find, underpowered round. Also it's not THAT high capacity... 20 rounds isn't a huge advantage over 18.

As far as the carbine goes, it's still vastly underpowered compared to even something like 9mm in its NORMAL loadings. If you combine the fact that you can absolutely get SMG loadings for 9mm (and still find them more easily than 5.7x28), what's the point? Also the loading mechanism is awkward compared to regular box magazines. Oh, and with the easy availability of shorty assault rifles, why bother with SMGs anyway?

They're a neat curiosity but they're really hard to take seriously.

Not to mention having certain "durability" issues.

We used to have a guy around here, Martyr (something like that) who had a major hard on for those carbines (and flashlights) and even he kind of soured on the platform a bit when the charging handle came off in his hand. At least that's what I remember of it, I was a bit of a newbie when all that went down, I'm sure Gtab or someone who's been here longer than me will chime in with the real deal on that one soon.

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Sixgun Strumpet posted:




God, I would give my left nut, hand, and foot to land a job as a corporate historian for someone like S&W. It would pretty much be the perfect merger of all my hobbies and all my academic interests.

I mean, I no-bullshit love teaching, but I would throw that poo poo over the side so goddamned fast.

operation_paperclip posted:

At the risk of sounding pedestrian, I'd really like a DWM P.08 Luger, in my hand, right now. Instead, I have to wait until tomorrow.

Holding a luger in my hand while I type this post. Why yes, I'm very good at typing one-handed, why do you ask?

my wife calls it my "thinking pistol" due to my habit of brandishing it while writing

Currently I desperately want a G41(M). I actually had one get away from me about a year ago now and that fucker has been haunting my dreams ever since. gently caress me for not having the money on hand back then.

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Sixgun Strumpet posted:

Oh, yeah, I want this. Saw it at the local Cabelas.


Ok, you've got me interested. What the hell is this?

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Naramyth posted:

You are using chome. There is a plugin to fix it.

It's not just Chrome. I see it when I happen to be tooling around in Safari as well.

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Not Nipsy Russell posted:

"oooooh. Pretty. I want one!"
- Mrs. NNR.
also:
This item has been added to your watch list.


So how adviseable is it to put commercial .22short through a gun like this? Would something like .22cb be better?

I wouldn't shoot it, period.

It's a gun manufactured before smokeless cartridges were a thing, from an era where metallurgy - even in quality firearms - could be spotty.

Neat collectible, but not a shooter.

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Sixgun Strumpet posted:

Yeah, there's a load of guns from that seller in my watch list right now.

I'm pretty much sweeping through the day they wrap up to see if any stay cheap. I have dick-all in my collection right now for the US Civil War era, and one of those could check that box off if they stay anywhere near cheap-ish.

Just to repeat myself: I seriously would not fire any of these, ESPECIALLY with any kind of modern non-BP cartridge. I don't care if it's "only" .22, smokeless + BP firearms = BAD.

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Yeah, the fact that you see the odd one in pictures of guys before running off to the CW blows my mind.

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Saint Darwin posted:

A 1911. That's the hand gun I've always wanted but the prices make me so sad.

edit: Because I wanted one with history, I reckon.

if you can afford ~$600 you can afford a shooter USGI 1911

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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

The pitting isn't bad, I'd pretty much just reblue it so it doesn't get much worse.

Bet the barrel's a wreck though.

Sorry for ducking out of the thread for a while, but most of the cheap milsurp 1911 questions already got hit.

The 1911 in that auction shouldn't need any kind of rebluing or filling in of pits. Nothing visible there looks bad enough to be dangerous, and the gun won't start rusting again unless you store your guns in a garage or something. If you're really nervous about it, just keep an eye on it and wipe it down with an oily cloth once in a while.

Seriously, is there anyone here who isn't living in a climate controlled house at this point? If so I think you need to stop buying guns and get a decent heating/cooling system for your family first.

As for the barrel possibly being poo poo, welcome to the world of buying used guns. If the barrel sucks, buy a new one. 1911 barrels aren't exactly hard to install.

The real parts to worry about on surplus 1911s are the hammer and sear. If the engagement surfaces there are worn in a bad way you're just going to need to install new ones.

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Ropes4u posted:

I want an M1 Garand is there a real difference between the service and rack grade?

Yes, there is significantly less wear on a service grade rifle, especially as far as the muzzle and throat are concerned.

I presume from this that you're ordering from the CMP?

A rack grade will still be a fine shooter, though, if you're mostly looking at just plinking at the range.

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Pitch posted:

I don't have any pictures of it handy but seriously if my Type 99 didn't rust after forty years uncared-for in a house with central AC, nothing will.

Yours is that one that was picked up off a random beach in the Pacific and shows the effects that a few days of salt water spray will have on a firearm's finish, right?

edit: seriously, central AC basically makes rust a non-issue unless you're firing corrosive ammo through a gun. Museums even 40 years ago could only dream of environments as well regulated and ideal of preservation as what the average sock drawer provides today. It's really not necessary to go overboard with the rust prevention stuff unless you're putting something into long-term (as in more than a year) storage or have known issues with rust in the past.

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Quickshanks posted:

I need a real German PPK for my top 10 handguns collection. I'm striking out. If anyone spots even a somewhat reasonable deal on one, please let me know.

https://www.gunbroker.com

You're welcome.

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Right now the gun I want is my Garand.

It's been in storage for 2 years and I really just want to fiddle with it idly right now.

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Dick Burglar posted:

The gently caress? The 938 has a SA trigger pull rated at 8 loving pounds? That's ridiculous.

If it's anything like the trigger on the 238 you won't notice. SIG claims that the 238 has a 8 pound pull, but it sure as poo poo doesn't feel like an 8 pound pull.

If you're interested in it I'd certainly try to try one out before buying it, but from the handful of times I've shot the 238 it really didn't seem that heavy.

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A trapdoor springfield.

For some reason it just seems like the most awesome, satisfying action to play with in the world right now. Big rear end loving hunk of hinged steel to lob .45-70 BP loads one at a time with? Oh yes please.

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Sixgun Strumpet posted:

That it does.

They are rarely made because of how insane they are to regulate (get all the barrels hitting the same spot at range) and construct in such a way that the barrels won't gently caress up the other barrels when you shoot them.

The old Drillings (3 barrel guns, mostly German) are some of the finest examples of craftsmanship you will ever find in guns.

The funny part about that gun is that the heavy engraving that is usually a huge added expense due to man hours involved is just a drop in the bucket compared to the other work that went into that gun.

Ugh. You have no idea how much I want a drilling right now.

I've been going on more and more long-ish walks recently. Part of it is working out, part of it is trying to clear my head while writing. I have also been reading some cheesy early 20th century action novels and frequently the main characters are the kinds of guys who just saunter around their ranch with a shotgun in case they see something tasty.

My current fantasy is owning land with lots of tasty things on it, and owning a general purpose "walk around and shoot poo poo" gun. It would be a drilling, but chambered in 12ga with a fowl loading, .308 or some other deer killing caliber, and .22LR or some similar small rabbit killing caliber. It would have awesome engravings on it, beautiful wood, and probably cost as much as my house. I would take it on long walks and be ready to kill anything that looked tasty enough to eat.

My wife just laughed at me with that certain patronizing type of understanding that she extends all my pipe dreams.

One of my best friends bust a gut and told me I basically described the life of a mid-19th Century Prussian Junker and asked if I wanted to enlist in the Imperial German Army so I could wear the awesome uniforms to balls and then screw up European politics for 60 straight years.

yes

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Subtuna posted:



SVT-40. It's not that I don't have the money for it, it's just so drat hard trying to get one in the states now. If only I was a Canadian...

Gunbroker

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Dr Ozziemandius posted:

Dammit, I'd give up every gun in my collection for this.

I know you're joking, but I've gotten a lot of serious "no really, don't do this " answers from guys with NFA items when I joke about the same thing. Apparently it happens, and it's a great way to take a fun to shoot collection and convert it into something you'll only bother taking out once a year or so.

I've got future NFA plans, but they all involve me dipping my toes in the water with a ~$3-5k gun and then moving up from there. I haven't priced them recently, but the last time I did registered M2 carbine trigger packs were just in that sweet spot. Plus, Tula is making cheap .30 carbine that is borderline acceptable if you run with your gun greasier than hell, so ammo costs aren't much worse than 5.56.

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Hah, oh poo poo.

Only $700 too?

gently caress me, I'd be all over that. I'd blow through 5k rounds on my first trip out without even trying. Jesus christ on a pogo stick I would set up on my club's steel target pistol range with the one with the water cooling jacket and just pretend to be a WW1 trench gunner for hours on end.

In the vein of full auto toys we could actually get as transferables, I've been deeply, deeply in lust with the MP40 for years now. It's one of the nicest mix of just pleasant to fire and handy to swing around. It's not quite as effortless to control as a Thompson, but it's also two pounds lighter. Easy as gently caress to disassemble and clean, too. From what research I've done on it the only real wear-related problems they ever have are with parts that are pretty easy to source replacements for. They're also not too bad price-wise, about $10-15k last I eyeballed them for the real deal (not tube guns).

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Craptacular posted:

There's transferables out there, last I saw was in the ~$20k range IIRC.


Machine guns in general are on the way back up. $5k would be a good deal for an M2 conversion. There's not too many transferable machine guns below $4k any more, most I've seen are M11/380's and the odd Sten.

I'm still at the planning and saving stage, and my yearly income will be going WAY the gently caress up over the next couple of years, so honestly anything under $10k is well within "cheap/intro" range as far as I'm concerned.

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Currently I am continuing to lust after tiny, short rifles. We're talking stubby as gently caress SBRs that have folding stocks. The sort of thing you can throw in a messenger bag, but still shoulder like a somewhat normal rifle.

On the way opposite end of the spectrum I've also gotten into old military sniper rifles recently. I couldn't give two fucks about whatever the USMC or police or other serious business long range shooters are using right now, but I got some trigger time on an old, legit m91/30 sniper and old low power glass + old tuned bolt action = for me right now.

Both of those are disturbingly expensive things to flirt with.



Oh yeah, and G36s. I'm getting a bit tempted to buy one of those HK neutered gray abortions and try to un-gently caress it. Why? hosed if I know, sometimes my brain doesn't work right.

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Internet Wizard posted:

Combine these two and I've been dealing with this exact jonesing for a couple of years now. Sadly, I went back to school at around the same time, so the only time I've had enough for this all together was when I was on my way to pay my tuition.

Goddamn you.

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NovemberMike posted:

Oh yeah, I have no intention of making money off of any of it. If I do this it will essentially be a sunk cost. Obama mania isn't going to help the prices of old man rifles.

If it's anything like last time it will actually push them down. A lot of old man rifles and non-threatening looking milsurp sold for really reasonable prices back in '08 as people scrambled to find enough cash for a crate of AR lowers and a pallet of promags.

Me, I'm hoping it happens again so I can score some sweet, sweet discount grandpa guns.

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Ugh, literally the only lever action that I'm interested in owning. I've never even seen one up for auction before.

Seriously, goddamn. That price is actually lower than I figured it would be, too.

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Sperglord Actual posted:

Probably because it's been sporterized.

Ah yeah, that's a pitty about the sights.

Also, holy gently caress some rear end in a top hat scored one in better condition for $870.

You would need to have a new upper handguard made, but that's pretty good shape for one of those.

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Ugh. gently caress you for posting that and gently caress my bank account for not being full enough right now.

One of you fuckers buy that amazing gun.

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So I never realized before tonight that the model 8 was a takedown design How the gently caress was I not made aware of this?

There is now no loving way I'm not shipping mine to my current place next time I'm visiting my parents.

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The C96 is an utterly antiquated design that has many significant flaws and which would make for a really crap gun if up-calibered like that.

The fact that the barrel is part of the frame (not pinned to it, an actual physical part of the frame) and that hefty rifle-ish rounds like that would cause hilarious levels of throat and muzzle erosion relative to pistol calibers comes to mind right off the bat, though. Have fun buying a new pistol when you shoot out that barrel after a couple thousand rounds!

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Sixgun Strumpet posted:

What exactly is the appeal of the Scar? I just don't understand. Maybe if it were a third of the price it is I would understand, but I really have a hard time understanding this gun at all.

I've held them, looked them over, they are quality guns to be sure, but that doesn't really seem to justify the crazy cost of the thing. I'm not criticizing or anything, I just really don't understand.

Can you explain?

Everything everyone else has already said plus a heaping helping of "looks different" "looks cool" and "~~special snowflake~~"

edit: these are all perfectly legitimate reasons to own a gun, says the man who needs to mail out a money order for milsurp from Luxembourg

edit x2: what's the adjectival form of "Luxembourg" Luxemburgian? Luxembourgeois? Luxembergisch?

edit x3: I'm rolling with Luxembourgeois. It's like you mashed "Luxury" together with "bourgeois" and made maybe the most word ever.

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soy posted:

Citizens of Luxembourg go by several names.
Lėtzebuerger (the name they give themselves, in their own language)
Luxembourgeois (the French-English form)
Luxembourgers (the most common English term)

Those are also plural proper nouns demonyms ( ), not adjectives, which is what I was fishing for.'

edit: this actually bugged me enough that I looked this up. English went back to the German half of its family tree for this one. The correct English adjectival form of "Luxembourg" is "Luxembourgish."

I also found out that a proper noun describing the resident of a locality is called a demonym (or sometimes a gentillic)!

exit x2: So that gun is Luxembourgish. I will own a Luxembourgish firearm.

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Sperglord Actual posted:

I still want an unfucked Gewehr 88 so bad.

Why on earth haven't you made this happen then? Those aren't mosin-common, but gently caress me they're not rare or anything.

Also, what's your definition of "unfucked?" Non-turk? Gew 88 pattern and not Gew88/05 pattern? How original are we talking here?

I need a Gew 88 of some kind myself, but it's not really a Mauser design so I kind of half don't care. Now what I really am lusting after is a Gewehr 71. I'd be willing to go Gewehr 71/84 as well, as tube mags are cool.

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Otto Skorzeny posted:

Not to speak for him, but a baseline of "not sportered or badly refurbished in the intervening 124 years" might itself be a tall order

There's two of them on GB right now for under $300. The more expensive one is missing the bolt head, but those are easy to source, and it looks like most of the numbers match. The less expensive one has terrible pictures so who knows what the matching etc. status is, and it looks like it went through an arsenal refinish sometime in the early 20th century, but beyond that it looks OK.

Seriously, Gew 88s aren't that hard to find. They're not so common you're going to find them at every gunshow in the country, but even the tiniest amount of looking around online will net you a decent one.

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Otto Skorzeny posted:

I know they aren't your cup of tea, but do you know what the market for Swede mausers is like these days?

Assuming you're talking about an m96, ~$300-400 depending on condition, year, factory, etc.

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Sixgun Strumpet posted:

So, uh, do you understand that you can buy one on gunbroker and have it shipped straight to your house with no ffl because its an antique?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=316456646

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=316073099

That Hanyang '88 isn't an antique.

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powers posted:

What other guns would you put your genitals on?

All of them.

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Craptacular posted:

How do they know what the average AR weighs?

My guess would be just defining "average" as "baseline un-adorned M4gery."

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Well, there's always the possibility that ARFcom is just full of poo poo and/or trying to justify spending a bunch of money on a new toy.

Not that "Because I think it's neat and I want it" isn't a fine justification for buying something, but we all know how people tend to want to come up with some reason why they need something, rather than just want it.

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They always look to me like guns designed purely for being bought by movie prop departments.

THey're huge, but are really generic looking and you have tons of space to bolt on whatever crap you want to make it fit the aesthetic of your film.

Need future pew-pew assault carbines? Throw on a stock, maybe some lights and diodes and bolts, and a flash suppressor and go shoot Cylons.

Need a grungy jungle drug lord gun? Air brush on a bunch of rust, tie a bandanna around the barrel, and put on a really fugly wire folder.

Doing a super-low budget WW2 thing? Paint it brown and graft a fake stick mag on the front along with a wooden stock and 95% of the movie going population won't know it's not a thompson. Paint it gray, put a stick mag on it, and throw on a cheap wire underfolder and the same 95% won't know it's not an MP40.

edit: remaking an 80s anti-drug action flick and need something for urban drug dealers to have under their coat next to all the crack cocaine they are giving away to elementary schoolers as "free samples" while running drugs out of the local high school gym? Do absolutely nothing to it.

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