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some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Yeah, I can't imagine that it was ever really designed to boot your ENTIRE infrastructure via autodeploy. I thought that you had to have a certain level of available infrastructure which booted traditionally for this to be effective/feasible.

I always assumed this was an ideal way to get DPM running. You've got an entire bank of servers that are powered off until they're required, then you can bring them online when you need to migrate resources to them, and since they're basically overflow machines you can auto-deploy them statelessly.

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some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

doomisland posted:

Yeah, I can never seem to keep the names straight...

This is me. "God drat it why isn't my google search coming up with anything??" *googles "vSphere Server" quite literally every single time*

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Ugh. Just in case anyone is interested in adding more virtual networks in VMware Fusion (like I was for a small ESXi lab), here are some good hints on how to get this done.

I'm disappointed that VMware thinks everyone on a Mac is too much of a babby to need a way to edit networks with something like the Virtual Network Editor in Workstation. It's especially aggravating since they give us the option of virtualizing things like ESXi but then make us dig through text files and vm configurations to get the setup we want.

I'll grant them that it's probably not a pressing concern for most Fusion users, but honestly it can't possibly be that much overhead to add the UI to edit this file and add the additional hooks to the VM preference pane.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Ugh, my 60 day vSphere trial ended and I barely made it through a few chapters of Mastering vSphere 5 thanks to some contract work I had to start.

Is this a thing where I email VMware and say "I'm trying to get vSphere experience so pretty please with a cherry on top can I have another 60 days" and they'll be agreeable, or do I basically have to game the system and create a second VMware account, redo my lab with the new keys?

I can't even download things like the vCSA that I was hoping to play with :|

How the hell do people manage setting up home ESXi labs with this limitation? :(

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Welp, I guess it can't hurt to try firing off an email to the sales team :sigh:

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Yeah, I should have specified, I'm looking to get actual feature++ "experience". I'll try reinstalling with the existing keys, thanks!

Shame I can't download vCSA though. If it comes down to it I'll just create a second account.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
From a guest's perspective, should it be able to discern a difference between being powered on in (for example) VMware Fusion versus VMware Workstation versus ESXi 5?

I mean that in the sense of installing a VM on Fusion 4 with compatibility set to the latest featureset, then copying the vmdk, vmx, and subsequent support files to a Linux machine running Workstation 8, should the power on on the new platform be seamless for the guest OS or can I expect some hardware changes to be detected? And I guess I'm talking about a sterile environment, and things like machine-specific USB devices won't be passed to the guest OS.

At first I thought maybe all three ran the same virtualization engine, but then I thought maybe small product specific patches could put it out of sync? I don't know. I'm not asking for any specific reason yet, just something I'm curious about.

I've got a pretty okay grasp of how vSphere works on the high levels now, but on the low level I'm still sort of in the muck.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Mar 15, 2012

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I just outed myself as an idiot by forgetting converter even existed. Thanks for the clarification though.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I'm having a terrible loving brain fart. If I right click on VMware Tools running on a Win7 guest, should I not have the option to bring up some sort of menu of options? The only things I see are "About VMware Tools", "Disable Icon", and "Exit".

This particular VM is running on Fusion.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I was hoping to shrink the VMDK associated with this VM along with a few others, since I'm in a disk space crunch on my Mac at the moment. For some reason I thought that was a thing I did through the Tools icon :(

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Maybe that's the case. I'll give it a shot, thanks!

edit: Oh okay it IS in that General section. I obviously haven't shrunk anything in Fusion before, thanks :3:

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
So it looks like someone stole the ESX (?) source code and posted at least one header file on pastebin? Wonder what this will lead to.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Corvettefisher posted:

The leak is from ESX 3(note: not esxi), if you are running ESXi 4.1/5 you are probably safe as long as you keep VUM updating your poo poo.

Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like it was code from 2004-ish ESX judging by what I read, so the impact should be minimal.

Sounds like this is mostly just going to be a ding in VMware's armour.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Crossposting from the IT Certification thread, but someone here works for VMware, right? This is pretty much the biggest pie in the sky request, but if you could, please put a bug in someone's ear that a poorly organized hard to decipher Google Docs (inaccurate) spreadsheet linked from vmware.com is a terrible drat way to get information about schools that teach a VCP curriculum out to prospective students :(

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Well I live a ten minute drive from VMware's Canadian HQ and I can't find a local CC that teaches anything that would work for the classroom portion of the VCP :sigh:

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Well quite frankly I'm only looking for the classroom component to satisfy VMware's demand. I like to think that I'm a smart guy, I can teach myself the VCP curriculum without too much trouble.

If it's a question of spending $500 or $3000 I'm going to pick the $500 every time since this is coming out of my under-employed pocket. If my employer was paying? Sure, send me to the $3000 course over a weekend.

I totally get that the classroom component is there to ward off the "paper tiger" crowd and make sure that you actually know something about vSphere, but at the same time not being able to afford a proper classroom training environment is pretty frustrating. Especially in this economy.


As for the CCNA stuff, I'll leave that mostly to the IT Cert thread, but I took CCNA1 and basically dropped out of the rest to do it myself. It wasn't worth my money. If I was a plumber who was looking to get into networking with no background? Then yeah, maybe that would have been a good use of time/money. My only real reason for taking the classroom course was to have an instructor to ask questions.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 20:11 on May 1, 2012

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Sorry I didn't mean to derail this thread into cert talk :(

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Does anyone know where I can find any info on vMotion compatibility across Core2 processors? The official compatibility database doesn't seem to acknowledge Core2 (unless I just missed it somewhere).

I'm salvaging a few workstation from the trash at work and wanted to see if I could get another small (64bit compatible) whitebox lab set up.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Corvettefisher posted:

Vmotion works on some E8500s, what model number is it

I don't have detailed specs yet. I just see a bunch of "Core2 inside" stickers on this pallet. I should have investigated further before I asked, but I didn't know if there was any unofficial EVC guidelines for Core2 systems in general.

They're dated mostly '07 so I doubt they're anything more than E6400s. Probably more trouble than it's worth for a lovely small whitebox lab, but beggars can't be choosers.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 19:03 on May 10, 2012

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Sometimes I think I'm the only one who considers formulaic, purpose-driven hostnames sexier than anything form popular culture :(

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Is there anything complicated in a V2P conversion when it comes to Linux?

It looks like everything I read about V2P is Microsoft specific.

I want to build out an OS for a machine that is yet to be delivered but I'm on schedule so I'd like to do it in VMware Fusion, then just dump it to physical disk once the machine arrives.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
A little setup for my question:

- I just upgraded my "Mac" to two SSDs. One for Windows, one for MacOS.
- MacOS is physically on one SSD, Windows is physically installed on the second SSD.
- I am using (latest/greatest) VMware Fusion on MacOS to run the Windows partition as a "Boot Camp" image.

Will VMware Fusion take advantage of TRIM on the second SSD? Should I be worried that the emulated hardware will not support TRIM? When I boot the Windows partition directly (not virtualized) I can verify that TRIM is up and running, however I'm not exactly certain how adding virtualization comes into play here.

I'm going to crosspost this to the MacOS thread just in case.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Are we expecting that VMware Workstation and/or Fusion will support VT-d at any point in the near future?

That is to say, has it been mentioned in any roadmap or quasi-official blog post?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Corvettefisher posted:

Not that I am aware of, I believe VirtualBox supports this feature, from what their manual leads. https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#pcipassthrough

What are you trying to do?

Nothing quite yet, but the idea of direct i/o sounds promising. This was mainly me trying to decide whether I should buy an i5 3570 which has VT-d but is locked for overclocking ( which I don't do anyway), or the 3570K which has no VT-d but is unlocked for overclocking.

I guess if there's no immediate plans to implement VT-d I'll just go with the K variant.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Allright, thanks for the advice guys :)

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I'd love to have seen his business justification for that transition.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Goon Matchmaker posted:

It's cheaper and does the same thing! :stonk:

Just run a linux box with Virtualbox and like 20 VMs running on the desktop. It's FREE and what's the difference!!

You can even play tuxracer in your downtime.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Found this really neat article on virtualized Solaris VM to VM network tweaking this morning on hackaday, figured it might be a good read in here:

http://blog.cyberexplorer.me/2013/03/improving-vm-to-vm-network-throughput.html

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Corvettefisher posted:

My favorite is still when people come to me, and boast about how gijjabytes they have in the back room almost 10 whole TB of storage and still slow GOTTA GET ANOTHER 10!

... but 20tb isn't an impressive amount of storage these days :raise:

I mean, it's a lot, but it's not like "holy cow I've gotta tell someone about THIS, they'll never believe it!" amazing.

I guess maybe if it was 20tb of SSD storage then we can talk :clint:


e: Oh nevermind I totally misread what you were getting at :q: Disregard.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Maybe a question out of left field, but do you guys think HP's Moonshot will have any significant effect on the virtualization world? It seems like the hardware is way too weak to do much consolidated virtualization. I mean I'm not sure how much you can throw on an Atom with 8 gigs of ram. I don't have too much info on what else will be available on the Moonshot platform though.

I gather that the point is that you can have like 70 blades per enclosure, so maybe you could have like 70 hypervisors with one or two VMs on each, depending on the application?

And I mean this is totally not a serious IT type question; I just wanted your guys opinion :)

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Apr 10, 2013

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

cheese-cube posted:

From having a look at the Moonshot datasheet it sounds like it is geared towards running specialised applications/workloads which require significant levels of parallel processing across multiple nodes.

That's what my understanding is as well, I just didn't know if I was missing some angle :)

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Ugh. It's still impossible to find anything resembling a reasonably priced VMware Install, Configure, Manage course around here :(

It's going to get to the point where I'm going to do the coursework, pass the test, and just throw it on my resume as [pending class] or something, if VMware still lets you do that thing where you can take the test but they just won't give you your VCP until you actually step foot inside a classroom, then hope wherever I get hired maybe pays to sit me down in a class.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Googling around, stanly.edu wants like $180 for their course. I'm skeptical (like, really really REALLY skeptical), but I emailed them for more info. If it's actually $180 for an online course that's actually accredited I am going to be $180 poorer so fast it will make my bank dizzy.

Of course their registration page is completely broken, but a rep posts on techexams.net and is apparently getting good feedback in the thread. I have no idea :psyduck:

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Ah, if only. I'm north of the border. That's a great price though!

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I definitely will, guys.

Since this appears to have a waiting list and is probably a pretty hot thing given I found it on techexams.net, you may want to fire off an email to this guy letting him know you are interested in getting on the waiting list while we try to find out more about the course, just in case:

Nicholas Huneycutt <nhuneycutt2262@stanly.edu>

Send him your name, phone number, and email address. He seems to be pretty good about replying to emails quickly so hopefully we can get to the bottom of this ASAP. That's about all I know. I think the expected waiting list extends into August right now though, so if you need a class NOW then you're probably out of luck and you'll need to go elsewhere.

Anyway, I didn't mean to derail this from actual virtualization discussion so back to that! :haw:

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

evil_bunnY posted:

No one cares as long as vmware counts it as having taken the class.

I think you actually have to take it for them to report to VMware that you have VCP eligibility.

But yes, AFAIK this is online. That or he was very nonchalant about a Canadian dude signing up for his class. I've been super busy do I haven't had a chance to follow up with this guy w/r/t any questions. Maybe someone else who signed up can poke him if they're interested. All I know right now is that I'm on a "waiting list" and I'll probably be doing this in August which is a long time but whatever, I'm in no hurry for those three letters. I can do the test and then take the course later.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Tab8715 posted:

Okay,

I'm very confused then... Does this count or not-count and if it doesn't count why the hell would you take it?

If it's accredited then it will count towards your classroom requirement to obtain the VCP. I have yet to find anything that says it's not accredited so right now I am working under the impression that this $200 course will, in fact, count towards your classroom requirement.

I think the only thing we were debating was whether you even needed to participate for them to tell vmware that you took park in the class, or whether they would just rubberstamp your admission as "participation".

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Tab8715 posted:

Doesn't this seem too good be true? I was under the impression the required class had to be done on-site and costs around 4.5k - source a VCP friend who took the class about two years ago.

I don't think either of the above are true. You can get classes for well under a thousand dollars. It's just not a race to the bottom, which is why this particular class seems like such a gem if it turns out to be legitimate.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Also would love to see a quick guide on how to do it. I'm sure there are a hundred writeups I could google but getting info locally is never a bad thing :)

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some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I forgot if we were talking about that Stanly.edu cheap-ish VMware certified training community college in here or in the Cert thread, but my name just came up on the waiting list. For $185US I'm going to sign up.

If I wasn't already semi convinced this was a good deal, the disorganization of their signup procedure would totally put me off. Their signup form is a google forms page :|

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