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UltimoDragonQuest posted:It's just not done much. Congressmen will send amicus briefs but generally Justice defends federal laws. Is the Justice Department going to defend DOMA? Dammit, Obama.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2012 18:53 |
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 09:14 |
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quote:Congress (BLAG) is defending the law because Justice will not. "Heightened scrutiny?" What's that mean, are they gunning for DOMA?
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2012 22:08 |
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Justice is opposed to DOMA and not defending it. The Republican Congress is defending it with the lawyer who just argued against the healthcare mandate in SCOTUS. Ah, alright then. We can add that to the (small but slowly growing) pile of "good poo poo Obama's done." Though I've heard before that the only thing stopping national gay marriage in the US is the fundies being really good at keeping the issue away from the SCOTUS. Is the Supreme Court really, firmly on the side of not being stupid this time around, or could it go unexpectedly (and poorly)? I mean, this is the court that passed Citizens United; I don't consider them the high-water mark of progressive rulings, really.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2012 18:54 |
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quote:This seems out of context... it says in the article that all democrats voted for civil unions, and this guy is democrat. What's he trying to say, that he never had any moral qualms about DADT because...? It seems like he's doing this as some form of atonement. As in, "back in the day I persecuted gays for a living, and it was simply normal. The banality of evil firsthand. But today I realize that that was in fact awful, and so I'm here with my vote to make things right." Or at least, I'd like to hope it's that interpretation.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2012 00:09 |
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I don't care if it's for politics or not, he's still backing the right opinion, so yay Obama. Besides, it's not as if he didn't already back it de facto anyhow. Now we just finally made the guy come out and say it openly.
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# ¿ May 10, 2012 00:39 |
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Oh gently caress no. Seriously? That's total bullshit! Oh gently caress you, Republicans. gently caress you, gently caress you, gently caress you, ar;auhfg;ofh!
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# ¿ May 15, 2012 05:07 |
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The Oldest Man posted:The hippies of the sixties (baby boomers born in the late 40s and early 50s) are not the same generation as people born in the sixties who turned out in droves for Reagan. Yeah, but they're the same people today who think LGBT folk are subhuman. Hippies didn't gently caress like rabbits and do drugs all day while burning their draft cards because they gave a drat about feminism, civil liberties, or pacifism, they did it because they were selfish fucks who grew up in an entitlement culture of prosperity built on the absurd amount of money the US made off World War II. They happened to be on the right side of things when it came to the Vietnam War, but ultimately they were just pricks, and the way they're loving things up today reflects that. The hippie generation is almost the literal personification of FYGM, I swear.
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# ¿ May 20, 2012 04:05 |
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quote:...decentralization provides the greater protection of civil rights. Ok, well, please go to Somalia and enjoy your increased protection of your civil rights and leave the sane people here the gently caress alone.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 03:26 |
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Amused to Death posted:No, I want him to stay because I want him to back up that assertion. We have 230 years of history as a nation to draw on. Well, sure, and I think the stupidity of his arguments is amusing, but he's making GBS threads up the thread and it's annoying. Edit: quote:By the way, the Civil War was NOT fought over slavery. Oh my God you loving idiot.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 03:36 |
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quote:There is plenty more where that came from. I have mountains of evidence to support my claims and I know Civil War history very well. From what I gather, it doesn't seem you have even broached the subject in an even cursory manner. "I have mountains of papers by my favorite Rand-obsessed Libertarian hacks, and you obviously know nothing." Edit: \/\/\/ Wow. You know what, I'll just cut everything out of this post except this one part. He's not worth taking up the rest of the space for. Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Dec 2, 2012 |
# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 06:29 |
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quote:"‘Gay Panic’ Defense Results in Mistrial for Teen Who Killed Classmate Holy poo poo, I thought they got rid of gay panic defense. D:
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 06:40 |
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Amused to Death posted:He was eventually plead guilty as they were gearing up for a 2nd trial and got 21 years, though they dropped the hate crime enhancement. Ok, well at last that story didn't end with the "and he got away with it too" I thought it would. quote:Depends on where in the country you're trying to argue it Ugh why America?
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 07:38 |
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CheesyDog posted:Oh woweee I'll just go write myself some tax credits right now... "Well gawrsh what's wrong with that? Then we can defund the government non-violently and create
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 07:43 |
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Glitterbomber posted:Alright, Lysander Spooner was an insane anarchist who's main beef with Lincoln was that his lovely mail company was 'forced' out of business by the federal mail system, and he fully supported the confederacy seceding because of 'consent to be governed'. He legitimately believed the rights of some racists in power trumped the rights of the people within, and that Davis was totally a swell guy for bravely standing up for his right to refuse to be governed, while plunging his people into poverty and war. drat, beaten to the punch.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 08:05 |
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Amused to Death posted:jrodefeld, noted supporter of being able to buy and sell children. "The invisible hand will make sure all children - what? We tried that in Britain and some guy named Dickens bitched us out for it? Nonsense! I'm sure it'll work itself out; these things always do." Edit: \/\/\/ I love when that happens. Good on you. Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Dec 2, 2012 |
# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 08:08 |
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zachol posted:I'm probably a horrible person but this post was hilarious. I'm pretty sure the other people were named for characters in Atlas Shrugged. And yes, that was brilliant.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2012 02:47 |
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Brave New World posted:Unfortunately, they won't flail around as impotently as we would hope. This will be a moment when certain extreme-right elements would perceive themselves as being truly cornered in an "alien" culture. I would expect to see things like states such as Alabama and Mississippi calling for secession, and not in the quaint little online petition way that they have been here post-election. I'm game for Civil War 2.0. A bunch of fat old hicks against the modern US Military and reliant on Federal support? They'd fold in a month and we could do Reconstruction properly this time.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2012 00:58 |
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hangedman1984 posted:I live (unfortunately) in Georgia, I really don't want civil war 2.0 If I actually thought the Southern conservative leadership was that unhinged I wouldn't be joking, believe me.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2012 06:23 |
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I've been trying to convince my mom that gay people are cool, yo, and she was totally blown away by these guys. Thanks, thread.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2012 13:27 |
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Illinois legislature will probably vote on a marriage bill in January. Hell yes! Maybe then Wisconsin will feel pressure too due to it's southern neighbor-- Right, Republican government.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 03:45 |
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Timby posted:Wisconsin banned marriage equality through a constitutional amendment, too. loving Hell, Wisconsin. Why do you suck so much now?
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 04:39 |
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Now? Wisconsin did that like 6 years ago. When I say "now," I mean relative to how we were kinda awesome back in the early 20th Century. I guess I shouldn't be shocked that we went down the rabbit hole of Reagan with the rest of the country, but still.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2012 07:04 |
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Let's say Indiana passes this ban but the Supreme Court goes for broke and completely legalizes gay marriage nationwide. What can Indiana and other states that banned gay marriage do to make life difficult for gay couples trying to get married there or get their out-of-state marriages recognized, and what could we do to fight that?
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2012 07:04 |
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All Of The Dicks posted:Well, they could pass a law so that you have to have a transvaginal unltrasound before you marry a man. I think the transvaginal ultrasound would make more (twisted, reactionary) sense for lesbian couples than gay couples, no? ... It's terrifying that I can see that kind of thing totally being done in the south. quote:The flip side of the tenth amendment is that anything that the supreme court decides is enumerated by the constitution supersedes anything in state law, even state constitutions. So they could waste their money fighting gay marriages only to have their lawsuits struck down the second they reach a judge I guess. I understand the legal side of it, I think. I mean the practical side. For example, say the Supreme Court says gay marriage is legal in all of America. What happens if the south just says, "lol nope" and refuses to issue gay marriage licenses or recognize out-of-state gay marriages?
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2012 07:23 |
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:We've always been a mixed bag. Maybe we spit out Fightin' Bob, but we also inflicted McCarthy on the world. Touché.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2012 01:09 |
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 09:14 |
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Um, hi guys. Kind stopped being politically active for awhile. Out of curiosity though, has there been any movement for (or against) gay rights/marriage in Wisconsin? I figure since it's an election year things might be happening, and now that I'm a dirty liberal college student (who can actually vote this time around ) I might get to do things, if anybody is making waves. I mean, we elected a gay Senator, I'd be shocked if there was nothing going on.
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