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Kem Rixen posted:New Hampshire (and New England) Republicans are quite a bit different from ones in the rest of the country. I've always felt they're more ideologically driven than religiously so. So, they would see that taking away something they had already given was a terrible idea. As well, New Hampshire with it's libertarian streak is the perfect place for SSM. There was also, until fairly recently, enclaves of holdout Rockefeller Republicanism in New England generally and Vermont in particular, which tends to be more inclined towards not joining the larger GOP in these stupid culture war crusades.
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Economy Clown Car posted:"The reason my husband wrote Amendment 1 was because the Caucasian race is diminishing and we need to uh, reproduce." Holy poo poo that is all but a direct fourteen words line right there. And what possible connotations could the word Caucasians have in that context that isn't related to race?
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May 3, 2012 00:35
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Talking about the land between the Black Sea and the Caspian sea. You'd use the word "Caucuses" in that instance, I think.
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May 3, 2012 18:27
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with one L posted:Do these people really believe that by banning same sex marriage that gay men and women will automatically turn straight and start having kids? Is this really the thought process or am I missing something? Many do still subscribe to the idea that homosexuality is a (nasty, icky, bad) choice, and so likely think that by closing off that avenue they're encouraging people onto the proper, Christian path. This of course presumes that any real thought has actually gone into it, and it's not just mindless knee-jerk reaction.
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May 3, 2012 19:03
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ungulateman posted:
Oh yes, the years following World War I were truly a heyday for the American left.
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Reagan was more left-wing than any politician in America today or in the 90s. So that's actually supporting Steak's idea.
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BattleMaster posted:Hmmm. Concentrating people... in places you might call camps. In order to wipe them out. A novel idea. And, according to him: since gay people don't reproduce, it'll solve the homosexual problem, finally. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 00:19 on May 24, 2012 |
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May 23, 2012 23:29
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Spiritus Nox posted:Just as Christ would have wanted. Right? The Christian right is at best only passingly familiar with what Christ actually wanted, nor much of what he commanded his followers to do. Why, it's almost as if they take from the corpus of Christian thought and scripture only those parts that fit their preexisting wants and desires, to verify their piety and justify their hate and greed!
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May 24, 2012 00:22
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Remember, Scott Lively - the dude that did a number of anti-gay speeches throughout Uganda a few years back totally coincidentally right before they introduced their "kill the gays" bill - actually wrote a book claiming that gays ran the Holocaust. We're not just talking Ernst Rohm here, he actually believes that most SS officers were gay and Hitler recruited them specifically because of their violent gay urges. And the American Family Association, which reaches a startling amount of middle America and influences politicians up and including GOP presidential candidates, quotes his stuff at every opportunity. Homosexuality in the Third Reich is actually a sorta weird subject, both because of Roehm and other gay men in the SA and also how the SS dealt with internal instances of homosexuality. In short: while Hitler wasn't a fan and ranted about the degeneracy of gays in society, it really wasn't a high priority for him and could be mitigated against by simultaneously having virtues he liked; this is one of the reasons he looked the other way for Roehm and others in the SA, incidentally. The real driving force of persecution of homosexual men (and it was mostly men, lesbians are a whole different question) was Himmler, who I will employ startling understatement in describing as a prude. One good read on the subject is Geoffrey Giles's Why Bother About Homosexuals?, which I usually assign my undergrads whenever I teach a Holocaust history course.
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May 24, 2012 19:57
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SmuglyDismissed posted:Of course, this ends up under the headline 'man jailed for expressing his christian beliefs'... It angers me to no end how they re-frame their hate. Time was, being persecuted for being Christian meant genuine state oppression from enslavement on up to being torn apart by wild animals or in some other way being spectacularly murdered. These days, apparently it is means very occasionally not being able to force everyone else to follow your own social narrative, the poor dears.
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Jun 10, 2012 18:28
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NinjaPete posted:I think I am out of my depth. I was debating marriage equality on facebook with a moron and he said his perfect system would be to "just remove the word marriage from the government lexicon all together, replace it with domestic partnership for everyone and leave the marrying to the individuals, their churches, and their deity" It's just a whitewashed version of separate-but-equal, honestly.
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Jul 12, 2012 05:01
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Rickycat posted:All of this actually made me sick to my stomach. What is going through their minds? "Ah yes a gay youth tragically committed suicide due to horrible bullying by his peers. Let's see if we can spin this our way!" Their major, oft-stated position on gay suicide holds not that it's a tragedy and we should all do what we can to end the horrific bullying gay youth (in particular) go through, but rather that homosexuality itself is so fundamentally unhealthy that it drives kids to kill themselves and therefore being gay should be discouraged. "a gay youth tragically committed suicide due to horrible bullying by his peers" is not what they're even thinking in the first place, because in their eyes the bullying is, at best, a secondary (if that) contributing factor in his death. Their loathsome conclusions come from holding loathsome premises, not (necessarily in this case) revoltingly cynical opportunism. Maggie Gallagher, NOM president posted:LGBT teens are roughly four times as likely as other students to have attempted suicide in the last year.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I just want to know who's willing to pay over a million dollars to (unsuccessfully) keep them gays from marrying Chik Fil'a, if I remember right (their not-really reversal on that notwithstanding), and the Mormons. Not that that's an exclusive list.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:33
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hepscat posted:I think a lot of times the religious arguments fall back on saying "the Bible doesn't say anything about gay marriage" but marriage was a specific social contract based upon having children. It was more about property management than children, to be entirely honest.
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Jan 10, 2014 05:06
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Skeesix posted:I think it's amusing that the video stuck the (D) on him a la fox news. You may already know this, but it's hardly the first time FOX has pulled that particularly odious little trick. See also when Mark Sanford, Mark Foley, and Larry Craig all got in trouble and FOX "accidentally" slapped a big ol' (D) next to their names.
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Jan 26, 2014 23:36
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VitalSigns posted:I was about to post this. Truly anti-marriage-equality is this decade's Iraq War of conservatism: a Good Analogy You know as well as I there's probably very little light between the "anti-marriage-equality" and "Iraq War was a good idea" demographics.
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Feb 20, 2014 22:21
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Xombie posted:What do these people think federal judges are supposed to do? Sentence minorities to hard time/death.
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Feb 27, 2014 01:37
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Chokes McGee posted:I was thinking an incredibly lazy Time Lord, myself. You would.
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Mar 4, 2014 01:39
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CapnAndy posted:A civil union is equal to a civil marriage, but still a separate institution. Hey, last time around it bought them almost sixty years of shoving back the tide (going by the really simplistic yardstick of Plessy v. Ferguson to Brown v. Board). Not that surprising they'd try it again.
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Mar 6, 2014 00:41
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CapnAndy posted:Oh yeah, and he was only 5'5". Other points still stand; who was the tall and handsome one, then? I know one was. Himmler's go-to man, Reinhard Heydrich, was by all accounts one good-lookin' sociopathic monster. edit: drat you, Gen. Ripper!
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Lycus posted:Heydrich was tall but I don't know if I'd call him handsome. He kinda reminds me of the banjo kid from Deliverance. According to many sources who knew him, the man was a real lady-killer and not just in the usual Nazi way.
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Mar 14, 2014 04:38
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Ha ha ha, oh no no no. Of course not, that would be silly. I don't think I much care for the liberties they're taking with this new version of Logan's Run.
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Apr 3, 2014 04:29
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Install Windows posted:Uh, what? It's a generation, not a lifestyle or something. That's like bitching that a car from 4 years ago is "preassigned" to being a car from the early 2010s. Generation X begs to differ *wears flannel and ripped jeans, listens to Soundgarden while acting sullen and disaffected*
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Apr 24, 2014 00:47
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Kfroog posted:The Baby Boomers were named "Generation X" when most of Generation X had yet to be born. Also I thought the standard limits of "Millennials" was 1975-1995? If I'm not a Millennial, Am I just not in a named cohort? 'Cause no way is someone born in the early '80s an X. I usually hear the last year of X being either 80 or 81, never any later than that. It used to be that those born in the early-mid 80s were called Gen Y, but that seems to have fallen out of common use and/or been absorbed into the Millenials.
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Apr 24, 2014 01:14
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computer parts posted:I mean I don't really know anything about it other than it's rural as gently caress and full of white people. Even if they do support progressive legislation I'd rather stick with the devil (angel?) I know, in Oregon. Depends largely on what sort of work he's going to be seeking, and how much winter he's willing to put up with. Oh, and as nice as single payer will be once it finally gets up and running I should point out VT is suffering from a remarkable shortage of mental health workers at pretty much ever level, so if you work in that sector you can basically write your own ticket, but if you need help you're in for considerable wait times. This is of course made worse by all the cheap heroin I'm told is flooding in from downcountry, supposedly.
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May 20, 2014 00:38
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farraday posted:For those unaware, the phrase "ash heap of history" to describe communism is copied from a famous speech by Reagan, although he was himself borrowing the concept of the phrase from Trotsky(? I think)'s dustbin of history, describing his political opponents. Yeah, it was Trotsky. He shouted something to the tune of "go where you belong: into the dustbin of history!" at the Kadets (and possibly the SRs, I don't remember) when they walked out of the provisional assembly.
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May 20, 2014 22:29
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AYC posted:TBH, I wouldn't mind having civil unions or domestic partnerships open to both straight and gay couples as an alternative to marriage. You get a lot of the same benefits but they're easier to get rid of IIRC. So two separate institutions which are theoretically equal to one another? Man, why haven't we tried something like that before?
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Jun 2, 2014 22:36
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AYC posted:From a group opposing gay marriage. It makes sense if you live in a feverish dream world in which you imagine straight Christians are an oppressed minority, bravely practicing their faith in the face of vicious secular/gay persecution. Won't somebody think of the poor oppressed straight Christian Americans? 
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Jun 4, 2014 01:10
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FlamingLiberal posted:That's pretty amazing even for those nutjobs. Though it has since been retired, the past long-running subtitle of that thread proves itself eternally relevant. There is always more, and it is always worse.
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Jun 16, 2014 21:26
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Tomorrow there is a 60% chance of thunderstorms in DC. I lived in DC for a couple of years in the early-mid 2000s, and have been back during summer storm season, including the massive one that near-wrecked the town in June 2012. If it storms like it can down there tomorrow, I can only anticipate with glee those fuckers being caught out in it.
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Jun 18, 2014 22:40
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Kalman posted:Sadly, the prediction is only for isolated storms, not the kind of rain we're capable of. Aw phooey.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:18
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:How NOM pays Brian Brown 500k and all he's done is lead the org to consecutive disastrous losses is a mystery Aren't they pretty cash-strapped these days from a combination of doing that and also hemorrhaging money from every attempt to shovel back the tide? I could have sworn I'd seen that attested to somewhere recently.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:47
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Zero VGS posted:Does that mean Scott Lively has to stay there? If only.
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Skeesix posted:Can someone fill me in on "The Frederick Douglass Foundation?" It's a right-wing organization which trades on the name and Republican (in the context of mid-19th century America) nature of its namesake for what appears to be the usual cavalcade of horrible causes.
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VitalSigns posted:Yes. I've said it before and I will say it again. Being gay is awesome, and being straight obviously sucks poo poo or you wouldn't need to make people do it. I can't help being born straight, dude, quit hatin'. SubponticatePoster posted:Man where are these sex ed classes? Because you can't even mention gay sex in schools here or ya get fired. Seriously, from what I remember of Sex Ed back in the early 90s it was all about AIDs awareness and proper birth control. Apparently we really missed out.
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:
Twelve by Pies posted:I'm from Virginia and they pretty much did the same thing for us when I took sex ed in the early 90s, basically told us condoms were completely unreliable and that the AIDS virus was smaller than the holes in a condom so even if you wore one you'd still get AIDS, so you'd better not have sex before you get married. I don't think gays were mentioned at all though. Not for the first time, but holy poo poo am I glad I grew up in godless secular New England during the early 90s. I mean I think they did pay lip service to waiting being preferable, but they at least did tell us how to use birth control and didn't lie about where STDs came from or anything. Goddamn. VitalSigns posted:Ew keep it in the bedroom. You know us straights, always not forcing our heterosexuality down your throats.
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VitalSigns posted:That's right gays, Texas legalized sodomy for you. You're welcome Somewhere outside of Galveston, a certain retired goldbug Congressman stands up and punches a hole in his hat in fury.
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Jul 1, 2014 22:46
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Game over all I wonder just how they define fasting in this instance, as total refusal to eat for forty days is pretty significant and, frankly, much more trying than I'd normally credit these sorts with being capable of. Admittedly I skipped around that video a bit since it was painfully sanctimonious so I may have missed them going into specifics, but in the absence of any other info I'd bet they mean some sort of symbolic or lessened fast that effectively amounts to "hate on them gays even more than usual and maybe have one fewer spare rib with dinner."
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Jul 11, 2014 22:42
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RZApublican posted:Does anyone have a link to that thread where the guy posted the lengthy Golden Corral stories? I can't seem to remember what it was called. They come up early in the current PYF Quotes thread, starting here.
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paragon1 posted:The two interlocking rings part looks like a ballsack. Ballz posted:And that black backdrop behind the rings immediately reminded me of a puckered anus. You both see what you want to see.
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Rickycat posted:So the 40 day 'fast' to sway the supreme court to vote against marriage equality that was previously posted is less of a fast and more of a fast with the benefit of being able to eat. Friggin' called it.
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